The thing is the allegation of the west having done anything in these events is quite dubious. I mean, maybe some services were gathering informations here and there, or advising some of the factions, but that was never a blatant military intervention like Putin's Russia always do.
It's pretty obvious who is behind these events and financing of them considering how western media reacts to retaliation.
I know the putinesque poking narrative, and honestly I find it quite childish. We're talking about international relations between nations with diverging interests. Of course, sometimes, things aren't soft and cuddly, but that's not a reason to begin a disastrous military invasion. Especially if you spinelessly target the supposed middle man that Ukraine would be in that case.
Good essay. Putin is a faggot incel doing mass murder against other brocels in the name of his Zoroastrian god.
Based.
Well, clearly neither side respects each other enough to stop fighting and supposed middle man will always be here regardless (see Balkans in ww1 and Poland in ww2 being most notorious examples).
Again, according to me, this is just discourse over discourse to hide the real purpose of this war, which is purging the russian population of its young male population.
Puting the country first is just political communication, quite boring and uncreative at that.
Agree.
I have some doubts here, the West tried to invade it way too many times. So much land and resources.
They sure have a hard time doing this. I see people complain about rising prices of food and accommodation from across the globe. Russia is just the first to start killing young men. Shit is just getting started.
I doubt a costly nuclear conflict against Russia in order to get some oil or mining resources was ever a thing. Most rich countries economy don't really need that, already own outposts (generally private companies operating on their own) offering that, or can simply buy mining resources for almost nothing to poorer foreign countries without having to cover for any risk or having to deal with the workforce. Russia is big, but it's under developed and not so interesting to be in.
I think thats another caveat. Ukraine is big but it's not THAT big, especially when compared with the sheer size of the Taiga or the African Subcontinent. Why have any interest there at all beside instigating an all-out white on white war?
As globalization goes on, most people turn globalist individualists. The majority of people prefer to trade rather than to wage war, which is a positive thing even if this merchant ideology has obvious drawbacks too.
I don't think it's a race thing, even if I agree it's destructive.
How is it not a race thing when Ukraine (even though ZOG infested) had the highest percentage of whites per capita than anywhere else in the world?
Russia is mainly white too. You think Putin has a secret anti white agenda ?
For now yeah, but pendulum will swing back eventually.
He does, there are way too many shitskins being imported en masse from Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and other stans to replace white population as well.
Unequivocally so.
Billionnaires love their fancy lifestyle, they need clients to buy their bs, but wars kill clients. In case of WW3, nobody buys anything, bombs kill all wealthy clients, social order and peace is destroyed. Billionnaires become apes, stick beaters. I don't think they want that lol
Isn't he white tho ?
There are threads on here that would suggest otherwise.
He is Jewish, Zelensky as well.
War is extremely profitable, the guys at the top, billionaires never face any real consequences.
Please take HS level History before making assumptions.
Russia is not trying to own Ukraine. Outside the separatist territories in the East, Ukraine isn't an economically viable entity. Its GDP is factually 0 and all public funding comes from Western donations.
kek, likely blowing out due to age and medication
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Knowing history does not mean you need to use to justify your own errors. Don't assume people don't know history when they simply don't see it as a loosy pretext.
Did you pull that out of your ass or do you have anything supporting that claim?
Buying all the bullshit coming from Putin's mouth are we ?
That's just pure hypocrisy, but since you're a Western-cel, that makes sense.
Stop projecting.
Why are oligarch's kids throwing parties in central Moscow while entire regiment were made of ugaric and other eurasiatic minorities ?
I don't even read the BBC you cocksucker. You're the one projecting here. Not worthy.
Where am I defending the elite that has been waging and making up this war again ?
Wars are always waged for geopolitical interests. The rest is just a fiction to entertain the gullible mass.
Cherrypicking at its finest, in pure BBC tradition.
Self-preservation is a geopolitical interest indeed.
Not the point of my thread but ok
Because he's an obedient cocksucker. People with this kind of charges always are.
Cheap state propaganda. This is like a 100 years old tier marketing technique and fucktards are still falling for it.
Again, I'm not buying this narrative. Too simplistic and obviously flawed when you realize how assymetrical the conflict is. Russia thought Ukrainians were cocksuckers, but they weren't in the end.
What I intend to say is that the Russians have been seeing Nazism as the absolute evil for the last 80 years, whereas Western Europe sees it as a useful tool to forward its interests.
Your narrative that Russia is fighting Ukraine is too simplistic and flawed, and absolutely nobody with more than two brain cells is buying it. Ukraine is just the cheap and safe way NATO found to weaken Russia.
This is a contemporary concept that could not describe the ethos of the time. Western Europe wasn't a coherent thing back then. There were continental power, colonial powers ... Your views are too simplistic.
I know all that. Not the point of my thread anyway.
