Serious What's the best way to make "redpilled" failed normies and "incels in denial" become blackpilled?

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It might seem a generic question, but what do you think it can be done to make these people completely aware that looks are the number 1 thing that can secure their way out of celibacy?

Many of these people are already aware that Hypergamy is a thing and also knows (but not with the same importance/intensity as us) that women do care a lot about looks when looking for partners. But they seem to be way too deep into their "deep" philosophical MGTOW or Tradcon cope bullshit instead of properly thinking how science and nature works.
They could cut all the crap right away and simply look forward to looksmax, taking surgeries and moneymaxing at the same time to pay all this.
This is exactly what I intent do do.
Or, they could just give up women entirely.

Many of them also gymmax with unrealistic body expectations. There are framecel manlets out there that actually think they will become 10/10 PSL Chads if they looksmax. Sure, they could improve, but they would still get nowhere near Chad's tier.


I would start like this:


1 - Show them Tinder and dating apps/sites experiments the Juggernaut Law in action, and also debunking "The Wall". Women's SMV are as high as it ever was, even very ugly (or landwhale) females can get into relationships with legit Chads these days.
2 - Show them even Chads are not any better than the average women in terms of SMV
3- Show them that gymmaxing may not bring them the expected results even in the long term, especially if they aim for their looksmatch or Stacy. I've seen manlet gymdudes committing suicide or other gymdudes who are so ugly facially that still complain women do not care about them no matter how good their shapes are.
4 - Show them that money can only do you so much, you can actually find gold diggers and even marry and have a child, but it won't take long until you are divorceraped and/or get cucked... By Chad
5 - Show them that surgerymaxing can bring the expected results and female attention (in a short timespan), as proven by some users from Lookism and Looksmax



Yes, giving up to women's demands over looks sounds cucked, but it's a more effective way to leave celibacy than any "Redpill" ever will.
Tell me what do you think.
 
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Just convince them that only virgin teen girls counts as ascension, and those who not gettiing cute teen virgin girls, are just incels and cuckcels
 
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They'll come around on their own if they have half a brain.

Or get them to chadfish after they get btfod on Tinder.
 
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Angry_runt said:
They'll come around on their own if they have half a brain.

Or get them to chadfish after they get btfod on Tinder.
From what I've seem, they ("Redpilled" people) do know Chad have it way easier, but they are like "so what that a male model can get loads of attention?", ignoring the root of the problem.
 
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Just give it time they will come there. That's how i end up here after a few years after my redpilled phase. I just needed to watch single episode of FACEandLMS's series to convince me.
 
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'Thugmaxxing' which would be considered redpill, works and gets ugly normies decent looking girlfriends
 
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starystulejarz said:
Just give it time they will come there. That's how i end up here after a few years after my redpilled phase. I just needed to watch single episode of FACEandLMS series to convince me.
The sooner they get blackpilled advices the better, they could still overcome "inceldom" in their prime ages and not come here as oldcels

NEETard said:
'Thugmaxxing' which would be considered redpill, works and gets ugly normies decent looking girlfriends

I have yet to witness gymmaxed "tattoed" (or Thugmaxed for that matter) normies get decent relationships, or "pump and dump" when they are past their prime.
Also, my Chad/Chadlite gym instructors used to date women below their own looksmatch, so people shouldn't get their hopes up about securing a Stacy or their looksmatch even for fucks
 
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I know of one such redpilled failed normie. He's slowly but surely turning over to the blackpill. Has a long way to go because he's coping through it with his redpiled delusions even though his suicidal tendencies are there inside of him.
 
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They must understand what coping mechanism means first to understand they're coping. Once that happens. Show them how fragile their copes are by destroying them one by one.
 
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wereqryan said:
I know of one such redpilled failed normie. He's slowly but surely turning over to the blackpill. Has a long way to go because he's coping through it with his redpiled delusions even though his suicidal tendencies are there inside of him.
There's something enlightening about the "darkness" of the Blackpill. While it can make someone depressive over something they had no control of (looks and genetics), it makes people realize we have been told lie after lie all along, and if we fix a single flaw within ourselves (looks), we might have a chance to end our loneliness and sexlessness if we fake our shitty genetics by looksmaxing.


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They must understand what coping mechanism means first to understand they're coping. Once that happens. Show them how fragile their copes are by destroying them one by one.

TradCucks are by far the worst in that regard. They'd rather believe there is rare woman out there who is "perfect", will accept them as they are, and will never cuck or divorcerape them despite of all the evidence that is shown to them about how normie men are fucked if they aren't gods on earth.
 
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there is no way, they need to realize all shit by themselves
 
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There is no point in trying to blackpill someone. Either they will realize it themselves or they won't.
 
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You can try to enlighten them, but it probably won't work until they are traumatized, their gf/wife cheats on them or leaves them for chad. Only then will they really understand.
 
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kampman said:
You can try to enlighten them, but it probably won't work until they are traumatized, their gf/wife cheats on them or leaves them for chad. Only then will they really understand.
I have a small compilation of Reddit posts somewhere where some guys express their frustration of their GFs cheating them with Chads.
Hopefully I can find those to post here someday. Some could be a LARP, but are still interesting.
One of them was a boyfriend of a virgin foid who swore to only lose her virginity with him someday or after getting married, but then she "asked for a break" in the relationship because "she needed time/wasn't feeling well", and then came back to him shortly after, confessing she lost her virginity to a Chad (who mogged her BF) on those weeks she was away from him.
 
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Blackpincel said:
I have a small compilation of Reddit posts somewhere where some guys express their frustration of their GFs cheating them with Chads.
Hopefully I can find those to post here someday. Some could be a LARP, but are still interesting.
One of them was a boyfriend of a virgin foid who swore to only lose her virginity with him someday or after getting married, but then she "asked for a break" in the relationship because "she needed time/wasn't feeling well", and then came back to him shortly after, confessing she lost her virginity to a Chad on those weeks she was away from him.
Yeah, I remember that. Typical, naive bluepilled boy.