What is in your opinion the most overrated game ever

[fatass30000]

Everyone who hates on GTA, RDR and Minecraft here most likely has terrible taste in games. Dilate harder and go and enjoy all your turn-based tactical strategy games, deck-building games, roguelikes, soulslikes, construction and management games, esports titles, gachas, bullet hell and rhythm games with all your troon friends.

Because we don’t like gta or rdr2 that makes us troons that have bad taste in games? cope harder boyo. I have played more games than you ever will and i understand good game design because of it. I have played games from every genre as well. A lot of you confuse a wide, detailed open world as good gameplay when it AINT GAMEPLAY. Riding your clunky horse from point A to point B to hear some dialogue ain’t gameplay. That’s just a glorified movie. I didn’t pay to watch a movie, i paid to play a GAME. If i wanted to watch a movie i would turn netflix on.

 

[fatass30000]

Games like GTA, RDR and Minecraft aren't even strictly just games in a sense. Since they are sandbox games they could be described as digital toys rather than games in a way since there are no strict rules and objectives. The reason those games are manlier than the genres I mentioned is precisely because of that reason: Because they aren't necessarily "games". I would argue that games and sports could be described as contrived challenges, which I would say is inherently unmanly since they aren't solving real-life problems or doing something creative where all the answers aren't a walkthrough-article away.

dude you’re talking about being manly when playing videogames if you want to be manly then join a gym, do some martial arts and make some money. If you feel confident in your masculinity then you wouldn’t avoid playing games that you find fun because of what other men think. And saying that it’s not creative because you can look up a walkthrough is giga retarded. Here’s a thought: Just don’t look it up

What I am saying is basically that beating or winning at a videogame is not a meaningful achievement.

nobody says that it is, it’s just a hobby you do in your free time to have some fun and kill time.

This old video from a speedrunner (who is now a tranny I might add) sums it up pretty well:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b56N17d4WnM

“Speedrunning is the most degenerate act that man has ever come up with”.
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Another reason why games are inherently faggot and troon-coded is because it is about seeking approval in a way (illustrated well in the viral comic from a couple of years ago above). I think that could be called unmanly by its very nature because a man should be secure in his being, he should not feel the need for approval from anyone or even himself. So that is why I would consider games like Minecraft manlier than other games, to be able to enjoy pure leisure and play like that signals that you feel secure in your being.

nigga wtf are you even talking about to me it seems like you wrote a bunch of nonsense to justify liking that shit sand box game. Saying that playing a game means that you require approval is again, giga retarded and not based on anything other than your opinion. Most of us play videogames to kill time and have some fun, not to see a “you did great!” screen from a videogame

Now while I am basically writing off all of gaming as an inherently troon-like activity nobody well-adjusted should be doing, some games are more egregious than others. The reason I named the particular genres that I did as troon game genres is because the games in those genres are very unintelligently designed. Because of all the overuse of procedural generalisation in those genres there can be no purposeful design or conversation between the developer and the player at all like there is in better games like Bayonetta, Hotline Miami or pure puzzle-games like FEZ, for example. Those games usually end up as time-consuming resource management at best, and "Rote Memorisation: The Game" at worst. Troons generally have a particular kind of autism and Cluster B personality disorder combination which that appeals to. The rote memorisation appeals to their autism, and since those games are less poplular it appeals to their narcissism since they get to feel special about enjoying something most people don't.

Also, while it is true that the Minecraft playerbase most likely has more troon players in it than the entirety of the playerbases in the genres I mentioned, that is merely because Minecraft is so popular. If you would be honest with yourself you would admit that the percentage of players who are troons is much larger in the game genres I mentioned than the one in

nigga i think you just suck at other genres of videogames and you came up with this cope “I DIED AGAIN!!! HOW CAN ANYONE ENJOY THIS!? Oh i know! anyone who enjoys this is because they want to see the win screen and get videogame approval! that’s right, they’re all troons! this game is stupid, it’s just memorisation anyways!!” be honest, is that what happened?

But on a real note, i have found that a lot of you who act like you’re very masculine on the internet, are always exposed as being very feminine irl. Let me ask some questions: Are you in shape? Do you know how to fight? Do you have a job and what is it?
It’s just like the users that always call others homosexuals end up being exposed as homosexuals themselves. Just straight up projecting. But let me say this: if you’re masculine irl then you don’t have to worry about being masculine while playing videogames. Videogames will never be masculine in the first place.

 

[ROCKZ D. XEBEC]

The Persona franchise: Just a normal anime with a dating simulator (bluepilled, btw). Battle sistem its just meh. Music its catchy, tho.

 

[St3v3Cel]

Have you even played rpgs, seems like you haven't since you don't understand but decide to shit your shit opinion out of ur ass anyway. Terraria is basically a sandbox rpg.

I like JRPGs. I can see how the gameplay in those games has a somewhat similar appeal to Terraria now that you point it out.

 

[St3v3Cel]

A lot of you confuse a wide, detailed open world as good gameplay when it AINT GAMEPLAY.

That was part of my argument. I said that sandbox games are not even games. They are more like digital toys.

Riding your clunky horse from point A to point B to hear some dialogue ain’t gameplay. That’s just a glorified movie. I didn’t pay to watch a movie, i paid to play a GAME. If i wanted to watch a movie i would turn netflix on.

I think the story aspects in Rockstar Games titles are fantastic, but notice how I did not bring up the actual missions in those games even once in my post. I was strictly talking about the open worlds in those games, not their missions.

If you feel confident in your masculinity then you wouldn’t avoid playing games that you find fun because of what other men think.

I have yet to find a game in the genres I mentioned which is intelligently designed, let alone fun.

And saying that it’s not creative because you can look up a walkthrough is giga retarded. Here’s a thought: Just don’t look it up

That was only part of my argument. Still does not refute my main argument that games are contrived challenges in any way.

nigga i think you just suck at other genres of videogames and you came up with this cope “I DIED AGAIN!!! HOW CAN ANYONE ENJOY THIS!? Oh i know! anyone who enjoys this is because they want to see the win screen and get videogame approval! that’s right, they’re all troons! this game is stupid, it’s just memorisation anyways!!” be honest, is that what happened?

All too predictable, terrible response. I don't mind more difficult games. I literally mentioned liking Bayonetta and Hotline Miami in the excerpt you responded to here. What I do mind is terrible and uninspired game design. To reiterate:

Because of all the overuse of procedural generation in those genres there can be no purposeful design or conversation between the developer and the player at all like there is in better games

nigga wtf are you even talking about to me it seems like you wrote a bunch of nonsense to justify liking that shit sand box game. Saying that playing a game means that you require approval is again, giga retarded and not based on anything other than your opinion. Most of us play videogames to kill time and have some fun, not to see a “you did great!” screen from a videogame

"Not based on anything other than your opinion". How about you give me even a single counterargument then? All you did was call me "gigaretarded" in response. That is not an argument.

"Most of us play videogames to kill time and have some fun". You must be part of the "it's not that deep" crowd. Ask yourself why you find videogames fun. Saying that you play them because they are "fun" is again not a counterargument. If you ask yourself why you find videogames fun you will find that it is because of the reasons I pointed out.

But on a real note, i have found that a lot of you who act like you’re very masculine on the internet, are always exposed as being very feminine irl. Let me ask some questions: Are you in shape? Do you know how to fight? Do you have a job and what is it?
It’s just like the users that always call others homosexuals end up being exposed as homosexuals themselves. Just straight up projecting. But let me say this: if you’re masculine irl then you don’t have to worry about being masculine while playing videogames. Videogames will never be masculine in the first place.

if you want to be manly then join a gym, do some martial arts and make some money.

I am a truecel. Shortcel, dickcel, voicecel, mentalcel and etc. There is no way for me to be masculine in a traditional sense, like in the ways you point out. This redpill trite you responded with is the type of stuff I would expect to see in YouTube comments or on Reddit, not Incels.is. Again, not an argument either. Even if you are ogremaxxed in real life you become like a faggot or troon through playing videogames (and it seems that you even agree with that? You said "Videogames will never be masculine in the first place". Makes me wonder why you would even respond to me like you did if you already somewhat agree). Check out this Reddit thread I linked earlier (suifuel warning):

You would be surprised:

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/1nyya82/trans_gamer_girlies_what_are_your_favorite_games/

This is the first search result I got for "mtf transgender people's favourite videogames".

All the game genres I mentioned are overrepresented in the replies there.

cope harder boyo. I have played more games than you ever will and i understand good game design because of it.

Go on, enlighten me. Tell me some games you like and what good game design is.

 

[xek000000kk]

any games from RIOT Games

 

[fatass30000]

That was part of my argument. I said that sandbox games are not even games. They are more like digital toys.

yeah i read that later on.

I think the story aspects in Rockstar Games titles are fantastic, but notice how I did not bring up the actual missions in those games even once in my post. I was strictly talking about the open worlds in those games, not their missions.

Which i don’t understand why anyone would like to play those games. To me they’re walking simulators.

I have yet to find a game in the genres I mentioned which is intelligently designed, let alone fun.

What do you consider intelligent design? A sandbox where you’re allowed to do whatever you want is as simple as it gets.

That was only part of my argument. Still does not refute my main argument that games are contrived challenges in any way.

… what’s wrong with a game being challenging? To me it seems that you just don’t like games that are somewhat hard. If you don’t, that’s cool. But saying that if you enjoy games that are challenging then you’re a troon seeking videogame validation is beyond absurd. I personally don’t like playing easy games because it’s just straight up boring.

All too predictable, terrible response. I don't mind more difficult games. I literally mentioned liking Bayonetta and Hotline Miami in the excerpt you responded to here. What I do mind is terrible and uninspired game design. To reiterate:

haven’t played bayonetta but hotline miami isn’t exactly difficult. It takes a couple hours to beat. Also you didn’t go in detail about what you’re saying, you’re just making vague statements. “Because of all the overuse of procedural generation in those genres there can be no purposeful design or conversation between the developer and the player at all like there is in better games”. What is purposeful design? What is a conversation between the developer? What are games that do those things and what are games that don’t and what do they do? You’re just making vague statements and expect me to read your mind.

"Not based on anything other than your opinion". How about you give me even a single counterargument then? All you did was call me "gigaretarded" in response. That is not an argument.

dude there’s nothing i can even make an argument to because all you said is that people who like these games are troons that seek videogame validation. All you did was make vague statements without going into much detail. The only thing you went onto a little detail on is that troons like those games because of muh memorisation that feeds their autism. Which again is stupid. Troons make up less than 1% of the population and the people who have autism and are troons are probably like 1%. It seems that you’re implying that if you have autism then you’re very likely to be a troon which isn’t the case.

"Most of us play videogames to kill time and have some fun". You must be part of the "it's not that deep" crowd.

it isn’t, it’s just videogames

Ask yourself why you find videogames fun. Saying that you play them because they are "fun" is again not a counterargument. If you ask yourself why you find videogames fun you will find that it is because of the reasons I pointed out.

i find them fun because it’s an interactive medium that gives me lots of freedom to experiment and allows my creativity to show. There’s games that allow you to play with a lot of different play styles and builds, so you have a lot of room for experimentation. Some of us like the experimentation and creative part of videogames. Play doom eternal on nightmare difficulty and please tell me how much memorisation that game requires you to do Hitman is also an example of a game that lets you play in lots of different and creative ways. Saying that videogames are just memorisation applys only to certain games which falls more into the dark souls genre. And saying that games that require you to make memorise stuff is for troons still doesn’t make sense to me. It seemed to me that your reasoning was that autistic people do that and lots of troons have autism. But again, that doesn’t make sense because like 1% of autistic people end up as troons. You’re trying to make it seem like being trans is this widespread phenomenon when they make up a very, very small percentage of the population.

I am a truecel. Shortcel, dickcel, voicecel, mentalcel and etc. There is no way for me to be masculine in a traditional sense, like in the ways you point out.

then stop calling people feminine troons And what is this obsession with dicks and voice?

This redpill trite you responded with is the type of stuff I would expect to see in YouTube comments or on Reddit, not Incels.is.

idc That isn’t red pill that’s just reality. Who is society gonna see as more masculine? A tall dude full of muscle who has lots of money or someone who’s unemployed and weak and timid? What i said isn’t based off red pill, but based off what society considers masculine.

Again, not an argument either.

that wasn’t supposed to be an argument, it’s supposed to show the hypocrisy of people who act masculine on the internet but are feminine irl.

Even if you are ogremaxxed in real life you become like a faggot or troon through playing videogames

that’s cope to make you feel better about your situation. “Yeah i might be feminine irl but so are you for playing those videogames!” Buddy boyo, we both know who’s gonna be seen as feminine in the eyes of society no matter what games we play, let’s just stop the cope.

(and it seems that you even agree with that? You said "Videogames will never be masculine in the first place".

that isn’t exactly my stance. They aren’t masculine but they ain’t feminine either. It’s a neutral hobby.

Makes me wonder why you would even respond to me like you did if you already somewhat agree). Check out this Reddit thread I linked earlier (suifuel warning):

All the game genres I mentioned are overrepresented in the replies there.

… who cares? Saying that if you enjoy the same games as someone who’s tran does then that makes you trans is like saying that if you breathe air then you’re also trans because trans people also breathe air. Literal stupidity. Sharing a singular characteristic with someone doesn’t make you the same as them. I didn’t even click on the thread because idc for what games they like, won’t affect what i like or enjoy one bit.

Go on, enlighten me. Tell me some games you like and what good game design is.

i would but i already spent more than 20 minutes writing this post and i honestly don’t care enough.

 

[Sir Silentium]

Roblox

 

[Sir Silentium]

Or the normie games such as clash of clans and brawl stars

 

[St3v3Cel]

Which i don’t understand why anyone would like to play those games. To me they’re walking simulators.

What do you consider intelligent design? A sandbox where you’re allowed to do whatever you want is as simple as it gets.

Sandbox games are not games. I wasn't talking about them.

i find them fun because it’s an interactive medium that gives me lots of freedom to experiment and allows my creativity to show. There’s games that allow you to play with a lot of different play styles and builds, so you have a lot of room for experimentation. Some of us like the experimentation and creative part of videogames. Play doom eternal on nightmare difficulty and please tell me how much memorisation that game requires you to do Hitman is also an example of a game that lets you play in lots of different and creative ways. Saying that videogames are just memorisation applys only to certain games which falls more into the dark souls genre. And saying that games that require you to make memorise stuff is for troons still doesn’t make sense to me. It seemed to me that your reasoning was that autistic people do that and lots of troons have autism. But again, that doesn’t make sense because like 1% of autistic people end up as troons. You’re trying to make it seem like being trans is this widespread phenomenon when they make up a very, very small percentage of the population.

I agree that Doom and Hitman are good, proper and intelligently designed games.

… what’s wrong with a game being challenging? To me it seems that you just don’t like games that are somewhat hard. If you don’t, that’s cool. But saying that if you enjoy games that are challenging then you’re a troon seeking videogame validation is beyond absurd. I personally don’t like playing easy games because it’s just straight up boring.

I never said anything about games being challenging being a bad thing even once. I don't care for these assumptions you're making.

haven’t played bayonetta but hotline miami isn’t exactly difficult. It takes a couple hours to beat. Also you didn’t go in detail about what you’re saying, you’re just making vague statements. “Because of all the overuse of procedural generation in those genres there can be no purposeful design or conversation between the developer and the player at all like there is in better games”. What is purposeful design? What is a conversation between the developer? What are games that do those things and what are games that don’t and what do they do? You’re just making vague statements and expect me to read your mind.

dude there’s nothing i can even make an argument to because all you said is that people who like these games are troons that seek videogame validation. All you did was make vague statements without going into much detail. The only thing you went onto a little detail on is that troons like those games because of muh memorisation that feeds their autism. Which again is stupid. Troons make up less than 1% of the population and the people who have autism and are troons are probably like 1%. It seems that you’re implying that if you have autism then you’re very likely to be a troon which isn’t the case.

it isn’t, it’s just videogames

i would but i already spent more than 20 minutes writing this post and i honestly don’t care enough.

If you won't take the time to speak about what you consider good I have no reason to give you an in-depth response. If you "don't care", why did you respond in the first place? Why should I care to respond to someone who doesn't care?

then stop calling people feminine troons

that wasn’t supposed to be an argument, it’s supposed to show the hypocrisy of people who act masculine on the internet but are feminine irl.

that’s cope to make you feel better about your situation. “Yeah i might be feminine irl but so are you for playing those videogames!” Buddy boyo, we both know who’s gonna be seen as feminine in the eyes of society no matter what games we play, let’s just stop the cope.

There is nothing more feminine than caring about validation from "society". Society is all women.

And what is this obsession with dicks and voice?

So you think that the dickpill and voicepill doesn't matter?

… who cares? Saying that if you enjoy the same games as someone who’s tran does then that makes you trans is like saying that if you breathe air then you’re also trans because trans people also breathe air. Literal stupidity. Sharing a singular characteristic with someone doesn’t make you the same as them. I didn’t even click on the thread because idc for what games they like, won’t affect what i like or enjoy one bit.

Liking videogames is a slippery slope. The reason troons become troons is for much the same reasons they liked videogames.

 

[fatass30000]

I agree that Doom and Hitman are good, proper and intelligently designed games.

we probably have somewhat of a similar taste in videogames with the difference being i don’t like games like rdr2 although i do enjoy the gta games.

There is nothing more feminine than caring about validation from "society". Society is all women.

i agree with that but at the same time society sets the standards for what’s masculine. Even if we put society aside, we have an animalistic understanding of what’s masculine. For example, if we see a 6 ft male that’s very muscular and good at fighting, we instinctively fear him more and see him as threatening. If you don’t have the capability to harm someone i don’t see you as masculine. Doesnt even have to do with muscle or height tbh. If i see 5’6 skinny dude that knows how to fight and carries himself with authority and confidence then i would personally see him as masculine.

Liking videogames is a slippery slope. The reason troons become troons is for much the same reasons they liked videogames.

which is? You complain about me not going in depth but you do the same. You make statements and expect me to read your mind. How does liking videogames turn you to a troon?

So you think that the dickpill and voicepill doesn't matter?

they matter to a very little extent and most of the forum agrees with that If a 6’2 ft chad has a squeaky voice he will still slay. I have read some replies about how your dick size can help you ascend and they all sound absurd. For example, walking around with a boner. All that will make people do is make them think you’re a weirdo, no woman is gonna see that and think “oh wow what a chad!”. If you want to test it out, put an 8 inch dildo in your pants or something resembling a penis and walk around a mall and see what happens. Another example i saw was taking a piss and your coworker sees it and starts spreading rumours. Again, that’s ridiculous and if i’m being honest gay as hell. No man is gonna look at another man’s penis and start talking to his coworkers about how big it is. That’s so absurd that i don’t even have words for it.

I never said anything about games being challenging being a bad thing even once. I don't care for these assumptions you're making.

didn’t you say that those games are contrived challenges and that troons like those? To me it seems like you’re implying that troons like challenging games and therefore challenging games are bad because troons like them.

If you won't take the time to speak about what you consider good I have no reason to give you an in-depth response.

no one said you did, we all have free will after all, you’re free to do whatever you want.

If you "don't care", why did you respond in the first place?

i said i don’t care enough, not that i don’t care at all. I don’t care enough that i would spend an hour of my time responding. It would had taken me another 20-30 minutes to put into words what i consider good game design, and there’s a lot of genres of games so what is good game design differs between each genre.

“Why should I care to respond to someone who doesn't care?”

to make conversation. If you don’t want to make conversation then don’t respond. When i’m tired of a conversation, i just stop responding. Idc if the argument is still going, if i get bored, i just stop.

 

[St3v3Cel]

we probably have somewhat of a similar taste in videogames with the difference being i don’t like games like rdr2 although i do enjoy the gta games.


i agree with that but at the same time society sets the standards for what’s masculine. Even if we put society aside, we have an animalistic understanding of what’s masculine. For example, if we see a 6 ft male that’s very muscular and good at fighting, we instinctively fear him more and see him as threatening. If you don’t have the capability to harm someone i don’t see you as masculine. Doesnt even have to do with muscle or height tbh. If i see 5’6 skinny dude that knows how to fight and carries himself with authority and confidence then i would personally see him as masculine.



which is? You complain about me not going in depth but you do the same. You make statements and expect me to read your mind. How does liking videogames turn you to a troon?


they matter to a very little extent and most of the forum agrees with that If a 6’2 ft chad has a squeaky voice he will still slay. I have read some replies about how your dick size can help you ascend and they all sound absurd. For example, walking around with a boner. All that will make people do is make them think you’re a weirdo, no woman is gonna see that and think “oh wow what a chad!”. If you want to test it out, put an 8 inch dildo in your pants or something resembling a penis and walk around a mall and see what happens. Another example i saw was taking a piss and your coworker sees it and starts spreading rumours. Again, that’s ridiculous and if i’m being honest gay as hell. No man is gonna look at another man’s penis and start talking to his coworkers about how big it is. That’s so absurd that i don’t even have words for it.


didn’t you say that those games are contrived challenges and that troons like those? To me it seems like you’re implying that troons like challenging games and therefore challenging games are bad because troons like them.


no one said you did, we all have free will after all, you’re free to do whatever you want.

i said i don’t care enough, not that i don’t care at all. I don’t care enough that i would spend an hour of my time responding. It would had taken me another 20-30 minutes to put into words what i consider good game design, and there’s a lot of genres of games so what is good game design differs between each genre.

“Why should I care to respond to someone who doesn't care?”

to make conversation. If you don’t want to make conversation then don’t respond. When i’m tired of a conversation, i just stop responding. Idc if the argument is still going, if i get bored, i just stop.

I do find it interesting that we seem to have similar tastes in games. I would have expected you to defend some games from the genres I listed. But let's agree to disagree for now. My take was a little too hot here, it would be better that I make a thread about it to really elaborate on it. I might do that eventually.

 

[CADcel]

Minecraft, the game CAN be fun with friends but after you played it for like 3 years of your childhood you go to play it now and its genuinely so boring

 

[fatass30000]

I would have expected you to defend some games from the genres I listed.

i have tried to like souls like games but i find them boring. It’s just doing the same thing over and over again until you finally beat the boss.

But let's agree to disagree for now. My take was a little too hot here, it would be better that I make a thread about it to really elaborate on it. I might do that eventually.

that’s cool. My apologies for being a little aggressive when responding. I just don’t like when other people insult others and put them down.

 

[TyroneChaddington]

Triple A titles are soulless slop.

 

[Fo4idhater]

Red dead 2, GTA, all the persona games and fromsoftware garbage only good one is Bloodborne

 

[St3v3Cel]

i have tried to like souls like games but i find them boring. It’s just doing the same thing over and over again until you finally beat the boss.

I didn't like the souls games either, for much the same reasons.

that’s cool. My apologies for being a little aggressive when responding. I just don’t like when other people insult others and put them down.

That is fair. I have to admit that I went too far myself. I should not have outright accused people of being troons for liking the game genres I listed, or disliking the games I like.

 

[LostSoulUK]

The Witcher 3 is the most boring game with fuckin awful combat and that piece of shit Geralt.

 

[Loliraider]

The Witcher 3 is the most boring game with fuckin awful combat and that piece of shit Geralt.

Movie game

Geralt is a white knight cuck

 

[anglocelticcel]

Go with rainbow six siege. It might have been because I was really shit at it but that was the one for me

 

[Rick prime]

Everyone who hates on GTA, RDR and Minecraft here most likely has terrible taste in games. Dilate harder and go and enjoy all your turn-based tactical strategy games, deck-building games, roguelikes, soulslikes, construction and management games, esports titles, gachas, bullet hell and rhythm games with all your troon friends.

…based Steve

 

[hook-nosed trash]

Red Dead 2
Stardew Valley (irredeemably shit game)
Bully
any zelda game
baldass gate
forza horizon 6 (normies like cuz japan)