Discussion What do you struggle with? How do you cope?

[The Enforcer]

Just thought i'd make a thread where people can discuss things or realities they struggle with, things that bother them. How they cope. Wishful but maybe find ways to better cope, distract from or easier deal with shitty reality. Inceldom is a miserable circumstance to be afflicted with tbh but fuck, if anything can lower the burden even slightly its good.

Jfl consider it some shitty "group therapy" Atleast unlike actual therapists, we understand the circumstance. Not exactly meant to be a "solutions to inceldom" thread because as we all know, there aren't really any surefire ways at all baring say surgery or someshit. Just a thread to maybe help people cope a bit easier. God knows during the festive seasons while everyone else is out having fun and being accepted by the world, we have no one, and have to suffer in this cold. So hopefully it makes someone feel somewhat better even if for a moment.

 

[The Enforcer]

Not exactly related to inceldom (though it certainly doesn't help), but I have only recently come to terms with the fact that I was circumcised as a young teen. I do not resent my mother for doing so, perhaps she was given information that made the procedure seem harmless, but I will never have my natural foreskin and all of the nerve endings contained within.

I was planning on writing a letter to her detailing my thoughts on the matter, how I feel that I have been sexually neutered (I already feel emotionally neutered due to autism) but after stumbling across manual "foreskin" restoration, I have decided against it. There are manual techniques one can use to restore the inner and outer skin, a process that takes years. I started 2 days ago; it requires attention every hour for about 2-5 minutes. I am feeling rather hopeful; it will not restore the lost nerve endings (I have made peace with that) but it will restore the sensitivity of the glans through the process of dekeratinization. I was not aware that uncut guys had very sensitive penis heads - mine is not very sensitive in its exposed state, being dry and callous, cracked.

From guys who have gone through this, they report that if masturbation/sex with an uncut penis is a 10, a circumcised penis would be a 3 and a restored foreskin penis would be around a 7 or 8. My experience can only be enhanced.

If I could chose to either be NT or have my foreskin back, I'd chose the foreskin everytime.

Do you know why? That seems very late for a circumcision. Circumcision sounds brutal though tbh. Seems like it would really put a downer on things. Especially when fapping is a good cope, for someone who's alone it should be the best it can be because it's all they have. I always used to wonder when i was a kid though, how circumcised guys could even function. I wondered how it didn't hurt but years later found out about the desensitization. Hopefully though you can achieve what you're setting out to do. That would be based.

A 3 sounds brutal honestly. Literally neutered as you say. The restoration stuff, what does it entail? Im assuming its a fairly retarded procedure?

 

[nohope.]

everything and i dont

 

[deleted fren]

Just thought i'd make a thread where people can discuss things or realities they struggle with, things that bother them. How they cope. Wishful but maybe find ways to better cope, distract from or easier deal with shitty reality. Inceldom is a miserable circumstance to be afflicted with tbh but fuck, if anything can lower the burden even slightly its good.

Jfl consider it some shitty "group therapy" Atleast unlike actual therapists, we understand the circumstance. Not exactly meant to be a "solutions to inceldom" thread because as we all know, there aren't really any surefire ways at all baring say surgery or someshit. Just a thread to maybe help people cope a bit easier. God knows during the festive seasons while everyone else is out having fun and being accepted by the world, we have no one, and have to suffer in this cold. So hopefully it makes someone feel somewhat better even if for a moment.

I struggle with fear of balding. I know I'm balding every day and I also know I'm aging and losing my youth. I cope by jerking off copious amounts till my brain is numb and then visiting forums, discord, YouTube. Whatever keeps me active untill I fall asleep.

 

[Indari]

the loneliness i feel from the few hours when my wife is away at work. luckily playing with my kids and my harem of concubines keeps the rope at bay

 

[Fallenleaves]

Eczema, waking up to blood stains on the bed, not being able to walk property due to healing wounds.

 

[Intellau_Celistic]

Jfl consider it some shitty "group therapy" Atleast unlike actual therapists, we understand the circumstance. Not exactly meant to be a "solutions to inceldom" thread because as we all know, there aren't really any surefire ways at all baring say surgery or someshit. Just a thread to maybe help people cope a bit easier. God knows during the festive seasons while everyone else is out having fun and being accepted by the world, we have no one, and have to suffer in this cold. So hopefully it makes someone feel somewhat better even if for a moment.

 

[lumipallo]

I struggle with fear of balding.

Preventative measures stat. I got a transplant and am on fin/minox - one of the best decisions of my life so far.

 

[deleted fren]

Preventative measures stat. I got a transplant and am on fin/minox - one of the best decisions of my life so far.

How'd you go about it?

 

[lumipallo]

How'd you go about it?

Started using fin slowly at 0.25mg. Initially asked my GP for it, now I'm ordering it without a prescription from UK. Got minox foam from Amazon. And transplant clinic was just some local one in my city.

 

[deleted fren]

Started using fin slowly at 0.25mg. Initially asked my GP for it, now I'm ordering it without a prescription from UK. Got minox foam from Amazon. And transplant clinic was just some local one in my city.

Based. Based. Imma follow you in case I need advice on the subject in the future.

 

[The Enforcer]

Waking up and feeling trapped in my own body. I get on TikTok and see people living normals lifes. Knowing I’ll never have that is a death feeling I feel everyday I wake up . Going outside , is death the stares ,laughter and gossip. I honestly can’t take it there’s more but you get the just

I refuse to get tiktok tbh. But I refuse to bother with most normie social media anymore. Its not worth it. Also with tiktok, you're essentially on it whether or not you have it due to how much of its content is re-posted everywhere. I'd say get rid of it if you can aha. It's just cheap, quick yet poor dopamine hits that keep you occupied and unproductive for hours watching fake content so they can make money off you.

As for seeing people living normal lives. Definitely relate to that. People always say "be happy for others"... Perhaps I could be happy for most people if I weren't restricted from having a normal life. I'm only happy for certain people with specific things I guess. The rest is just envy. It's crippling really. Knowing that the clock continuously ticks, that decades have passed and nothing has changed. A purgatory of exclusion yet I'm to observe others living the good life. All the while they treat me like dirt every chance they get.

I just try to keep it out of mind when I can, dampen my emotions and restrict my ability to dwell on things. Although my means for doing so are unconventional. Always worth focusing on something else if you ever possibly can. A distraction I find is always nice.

 

[The Enforcer]

everything and i dont

mfw I understand this

 

[The Enforcer]

I struggle with fear of balding. I know I'm balding every day and I also know I'm aging and losing my youth. I cope by jerking off copious amounts till my brain is numb and then visiting forums, discord, YouTube. Whatever keeps me active untill I fall asleep.

I've never looked into balding stuff much. Are there any ways to prevent or slow it? Aging does suck though. I spent the majority of my life delusionally hopeful. Yet the years just ended up passing and I was just left with nothing. My efforts yield zero results. Fapping and internet are good copes though. They're a form of stability I find. I can just sit here, get wasted and lose myself in a virtual world.

 

[The Enforcer]

the loneliness i feel from the few hours when my wife is away at work. luckily playing with my kids and my harem of concubines keeps the rope at bay

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mogsme. "away at work" though. Jfl buddyboyo, if thats what you want to think "my kids" get a paternity test boyo

 

[The Enforcer]

Eczema, waking up to blood stains on the bed, not being able to walk property due to healing wounds.

Guessing you've tried all the generic creams and stuff for that? Could some sort of gloves not help or is it more than just the hands?

 

[The Enforcer]

Based. Based. Imma follow you in case I need advice on the subject in the future.

This is based. Hopefully that goes well

 

[deleted fren]

I've never looked into balding stuff much. Are there any ways to prevent or slow it? Aging does suck though. I spent the majority of my life delusionally hopeful. Yet the years just ended up passing and I was just left with nothing. My efforts yield zero results. Fapping and internet are good copes though. They're a form of stability I find. I can just sit here, get wasted and lose myself in a virtual world.

Apparently there's ways to slow it in medication but they can cause mental problems. Worth the risk I guess.

 

[The Enforcer]

If my memory serves me correct, it was due to... thrush? Or some sort of hygiene issue or something. The doctor probably recommended the "hacking" for that reason. I really wish my mother hadn't gone through with it, but what can I do about it? 10 years or so have passed since that point.

I remember the procedure like it was yesterday; the pain is still rather fresh in my mind. I was screaming down the clinic whilst my family members were just laughing and telling me it would be okay. If I spoke to a therapist they'd probably say that was a traumatic experience, which I'd agree with.

Literally fuck that jesus. They could have atleast given you something

Very much so. This is all rather fresh for me, funnily enough, as I wasn't really aware of my predicament until a couple months ago. I originally held the stance that circumcision wasn't that big of a deal, a nothing-burger. A couple minutes of research quickly disproves that notion, however.

I can jack off with a straight face. As there is no head stimulation (unless you are using lube) you are just jerking off the shaft. I didn't realise how different the experience was compared to an uncut guy - had no point of reference, after all. I didn't even know what "gliding" was. I chase the ejaculation, instead of enjoying the sensory experience that a foreskin provides. For about 4 months I was using a Tenga (Japanese sex toy) with lube and that was the most heavenly experience - perhaps akin to what having a foreskin would feel like. Masturbating feels kind off pointless without external aid or lube.

I used to watch American porn, where most guys seem to be circumcised. Having switched over to Japanese porn for the last 3-4 years where they are all uncut, it is a constant reminder of what I am currently missing out on.

Seems like uncut fapping is just exhausting with little returns tbh. That would just be shit

It would very much be based haha. I didn't realise how much I was missing; I feel, or felt, rather defeated. Just knowing that most men I pass by on the street have their intact penis is suifuel. I think I now understand why things like Nofap exist - the experience must obviously be heavenly for uncut guys. For me, unless I am using an external aid, there really is no point of masturbating - I'm sure you can understand how frustrating that must be, and how it could lead to pent up frustration and a need to search out more... extreme material or engage in more extreme acts to make up for that loss of sensation and satisfaction.

I try to imagine it as similar to fapping after fapping multiple times. Eventually it just seems to be impossible to quite get there and can become an annoying chore even though you just need to fucking nut or itll bug you.

The ejaculation is the best part for me, but the masturbation itself is rather tedious. You tug and tug and wait to actually feel something. The erection is there, but something is missing. The ejaculation fools me into thinking that the experience was great, but in actual reality it pales in comparison to the real thing.

I will keep the restoration side of things as succinct as possible, especially as I am still new to it. I will use a random pic for reference:

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This is a circumcised penis, the thing that I am most familiar with. I didn't even know what a regular penis looked like until months ago. As you can see, there is a scar line from the circumcision (I didn't know this prior) and the glans are exposed. The goal is to promote growth through mitosis along that scar line through various techniques (pulling and pinching, stretching). Some restorers use small weights and devices, but I much prefer to just use my hands to get the best results.

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Restorers use a system called CI-0 through CI-8 (Coverage Index). CI-8 is full coverage, complete, whereas CI-0 is what you see in the picture above (what mine looks like).

The methods used are universal, though the tactics used differ depending on how the circumcision was conducted. I have a high and tight style. Below are some diagrams of the styles.

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(1.regular)

(2.high and tight)

(3.low and tight)

The inner foreskin, as shown in the diagrams above, are meant to be on the inside. Circumcision fucks all of this up by making them exposed, leading to keratinization of the inner organs (though it is reversible).

There are still some nerve endings under the scar line, which is good as it means that you can grow them, expand them, to the new foreskin.

The goal of stretching and putting the scar line under tension is to promote growth of both the inner and outer skin. You do not want to end up with outer skin on the inside (as they are not meant to be in an anaerobic environment). The final product should resemble a normal foreskin.

It is a very SLOW process, takes many years (anywhere from 3-7). You want to stimulate new blood vessels, subcutaneous tissue, nerve endings and supporting tissue. it requires 2-3 minutes every hour, every day, for years.

The aim is to move that scar line that you see to the tip of the penis, giving a natural appearance. It will mean that only the inner skin is touching the glans; the glans and tip become sensitive, moist and supple again (thanks to the inner skin now being in an environment where they can excrete the natural mucus). The end result looks indistinguishable from a natural foreskin.

It takes patience and a good routine. One must not become discouraged, nor should we expect quick results. A lot of damage was done, and a lot of work is needed to fix it.

I can imagine eventually it would work for sure. If you ever look at morbidly obese people who lose all the weight. One thing many of them dont lose is the loose stretched skin that just hangs down. Many get surgery to try and remove it but I imagine the same principle should work with that stretching hopefully. Sounds like a brutally long process though. Does the glans desensitization also reverse after a while when a new foreskin is present? I imagine that would be kind of crucial too

 

[The Enforcer]

Height, doubt I'd be suffering so much if I wasn't a manlet. IQpill was brutal for me too. Other than that, life seems to be decent

Yeah the heightpill is brutal tbh. Little that can be done about that, nor peoples attitudes towards short people. I'm shorter than roughly 87% of men in this country, coupled with being an ugly fuck, i'm not considered to be a person. So long as you're able to cope though and still have the ability to enjoy certain interests and occupy your time with them, thats kind of based tbh. Decent is always good

 

[The Enforcer]

Apparently there's ways to slow it in medication but they can cause mental problems. Worth the risk I guess.

I mean, a life of chronic loneliness and rejection is a sure fire way to develop mental issues too aha. Worth looking into I think. See what a doctor says or something. If it can help, thats always good

 

[deleted fren]

I mean, a life of chronic loneliness and rejection is a sure fire way to develop mental issues too aha. Worth looking into I think. See what a doctor says or something. If it can help, thats always good

Thx I will. What do you do to cope outside drinking and online?

 

[The Enforcer]

Thx I will. What do you do to cope outside drinking and online?

Well I don't really. Aside from the usual fapping, sleeping and occasionally eating. For me it's just discord, the forum, heroin and booze. That's all that's left in life for me to enjoy

 

[deleted fren]

Well I don't really. Aside from the usual fapping, sleeping and occasionally eating. For me it's just discord, the forum, heroin and booze. That's all that's left in life for me to enjoy

That's too relatable. At least the booze makes it funner.

 

[The Enforcer]

That's too relatable. At least the booze makes it funner.

Makes living tolerable. Dampens emotions, Clouds thoughts so dwelling isnt always as easy

 

[Retardfuel]

I cope with excessive alcoholism

 

[deleted fren]

Makes living tolerable. Dampens emotions, Clouds thoughts so dwelling isnt always as easy

Based

 

[deleted fren]

I cope with excessive alcoholism

Based

 

[The Enforcer]

I cope with excessive alcoholism

Same jfl

 

[Asgard]

I only cope with videogames or web development/coding with C# for a gaming community (although I suck).

 

[Fallenleaves]

Guessing you've tried all the generic creams and stuff for that? Could some sort of gloves not help or is it more than just the hands?

I've used gloves as a kid and it ended in having threads from the gloves in the wounds on my hands

 

[ADHD_cel]

everything and i dont

 

[Don Vito]

Just thought i'd make a thread where people can discuss things or realities they struggle with, things that bother them. How they cope. Wishful but maybe find ways to better cope, distract from or easier deal with shitty reality. Inceldom is a miserable circumstance to be afflicted with tbh but fuck, if anything can lower the burden even slightly its good.

Jfl consider it some shitty "group therapy" Atleast unlike actual therapists, we understand the circumstance. Not exactly meant to be a "solutions to inceldom" thread because as we all know, there aren't really any surefire ways at all baring say surgery or someshit. Just a thread to maybe help people cope a bit easier. God knows during the festive seasons while everyone else is out having fun and being accepted by the world, we have no one, and have to suffer in this cold. So hopefully it makes someone feel somewhat better even if for a moment.

Im turboshort.
- I rotmax.
-I whoremax.
-I try to dont go to places and hours in which you will find a lot of couples(specially if they are young and tallfags).

 

[The Enforcer]

I was very upset for a while. My brain is now focused on the solution, so I am not bothered by the past anymore. I plan on telling my mother about it in a couple years, hopefully when I have made a lot of headway on my restoration journey. Until then, I will keep it to myself.

Sounds like a good way of dealing with it tbh. Atleast its something that you can change. A goal to strive towards is always nice. Something to motivate you too. Might make that conversation easier.

It is. It feels like my (actual) head was suddenly brought up to the surface after years of being submerged. I didn't realise how shit the experience actually was. I still feel horny, still get erections. But the actual process is... lame. But it still feels good! Just... good, though. External aid is really a must.

Sounds frustrating as hell tbh. glad i've never had to resort to an aid

Most I've done is two sessions, with an hour gap inbetween. As I do not have foreskin, my time is spent yanking on the shaft (making it sore) which hinders my pleasure. I assume that the head stimulation wears off after a session or two? I guess there is only so many times you can do it before it becomes impossible.

im time you'll probably be able to train it for longer I guess. And yeah, guys have this thing called the refractory period. It makes it a lot harder to nut with each subsequent one to a point where it's borderline impossible unless you're stupidly horny. Definitely has a sort of "numbing" effect I guess. I imagine if men didn't have a refractory period and could easily pull off (pun intended) multiple orgasms, that's literally all we would do ahaha.

Everything returns to normal, somewhat. The once dry, discoloured and cracked glans become moist and soft again due to the new mucus that is excreted. It become sensitive, as it should have always been. Many restorers have reported it as being a very weird sensation, having a foreskin constantly in contact with their glans, but they get used to it after a while and it feels more natural.

A lot of guys have their frenulum cut off during the circumcision, a highly erogenous zone on the undersize of the penis (similar to that thin thing under the tongue). I still appear to have mine, or maybe some of it at least. All of the sensitivity returns once the foreskin is back to protecting the glans and other parts of the penis.

It is just a laborious process.

Image of glans before and after, for reference. Sorry for all the dick pics, kek.

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FUCK having the frenulum cut. That would sting beyond all hell. Hopefully this whole process goes well for you though tbh. Could definitely make things a lot more enjoyable, as well as just making you feel better in general about it all. And dw about the dicks. I'm a chronic internet user, I see enough of them without wanting too. Not a lot that really bothers me anymore.

 

[The Enforcer]

I only cope with videogames or web development/coding with C# for a gaming community (although I suck).

based tbh. I wish i could still enjoy games the way I used too. I've dabbled with a bit of C# before. It seems a decent language. I cant understand some of the changes they made from convention. Just seemed like a way to be "unique" jfl. But seems useful tbh. Why do you say you suck?

Not really a web dev person myself. I think mainly due to the visual styling that sometimes is expected for products you design. I cant do shit like that. So I just dont bother.

 

[The Enforcer]

I've used gloves as a kid and it ended in having threads from the gloves in the wounds on my hands

Any sort of rubber/latex type gloves that you could use instead? Something lined and unlikely to degrade might work.

 

[Fallenleaves]

Any sort of rubber/latex type gloves that you could use instead? Something lined and unlikely to degrade might work.

I don't like the smell man

 

[The Enforcer]

Im turboshort.
- I rotmax.
-I whoremax.
-I try to dont go to places and hours in which you will find a lot of couples(specially if they are young and tallfags).

Heightpill is a very brutal pill tbh

Rotting is comfy though. I dont see prostitutes, just not for me but for those that it's a good cope for I say go for it. Dopaminemaxx. And yeah I try to avoid going out nowadays too, not just due to couples and whatnot. I just dont like all the stupid looks and dirty comments people give me. It ruins going out and is just demoralizing

 

[The Enforcer]

I don't like the smell man

they should figure something out. Maybe there's something silicon based or something else. Something that doesnt really smell and is breathable

 

[Fallenleaves]

they should figure something out. Maybe there's something silicon based or something else. Something that doesnt really smell and is breathable

I'd scratch through it, I'm genetically cursed to hell. I'm walkmaxxing in an attempt to calm and heal myself

 

[The Enforcer]

I'd scratch through it, I'm genetically cursed to hell. I'm walkmaxxing in an attempt to calm and heal myself

Id probably got nuts with it too tbh. That is overpilled. Walks can be based though. Atleast if its at a place where no one really goes

 

[Fallenleaves]

Id probably got nuts with it too tbh. That is overpilled.

If only I could give it to normies, they wouldn't last a day cuz they'd off themselves haha.

Walks can be based though. Atleast if its at a place where no one really goes

I try my best

 

[The Enforcer]

Most definitely. I was going to write the letter yesterday, but it was her birthday on the 12th and the letter would have been emotionally charged. Best to approach it with a level head - I'd rather not chew her out for something she thought was the right thing to do (she's been through MORE than enough already - breast cancer and removal of breasts, no uterus, many illnesses, etcetera). She knows what it is like to have parts of her removed, so she'd be able to empathise more than anyone.

Yeah forgive and forget might be a good route with that. If it was for a medical reason I guess that's always going to be there. Fuck all those illnesses though tbh. That's brutal. I'm sure you'd be able to have a good talk about it eventually though. Perhaps even one where you can talk about it while laughing about it as it might end up nothing more than a bad memory.

Lucky bugger

Laziness kind of contributes to that too jfl

I'm a one and done type of guy, normally fall asleep after. Hopefully my new penis will work a little differently, haha. I am already a coomer, but apparently at a level 3.

Depends on the day for me I guess. I hate having a libido. It's horrible. Like... My brain should be able to recognize that it's a reject of its own species and just stop.

I didn't even know what a frenulum was! But all is well...
The way I see it, my penis is not inhibiting me in terms of life. I have been "fine" for the last decade. But now I have opened Pandora's Box I must do something about it. My goal is to increase sensitivity, protect my glans and enjoy my new intact penis.

It will take a long time to get there. A lot can happen during that time. If the forum is still around in 5 or so years, and you guys are all still here, I'll report on my journey then.

Hopefully the place will still be around then. I dont know if i'll survive another 5 years but fuck knows. a bit of a success story would be based. Something for other guys with the same issue to take notes from if it goes well

 

[Balding Subhuman]

Struggle with my looks and poor mental health. Guess I cope by isolating myself completely as a NEET from others and by drugs occasionally, and video games, entertainment. I've had days where I feel so ugly I can't even leave my house

 

[The Enforcer]

If only I could give it to normies, they wouldn't last a day cuz they'd off themselves haha.

Based af tbh

I try my best

Also based. Enjoy the day

 

[The Enforcer]

Struggle with my looks and poor mental health. Guess I cope by isolating myself completely as a NEET from others and by drugs occasionally, and video games, entertainment. I've had days where I feel so ugly I can't even leave my house

The lookspill is brutal tbh. I cant bring myself to go out much anymore. I cant be dealing with the hostility and negativity people direct towards me whenever I go somewhere.

 

[The Enforcer]

A double-edged sword, perhaps - or perhaps mostly negative? I probably have a lower libido, for a number of reasons - longest I have gone without masturbating was 7-8 months (just forgot about it). Until it's over (death) I guess the male brain and hormones are just GO GO GO, regardless of the circumstances you may find yourself.

I dont think i've gone more than 2 weeks without fapping since I was like 9 tbh. Brains suck. Need a lobotomy

Regardless of whether the forum is up, I do hope you are around (though I am not sure if that is selfish on my behalf, wanting you to be around whilst you are suffering). I struggle to give advice or support, for not wanting to come off as giving blue-pilled platitudes - especially as you have been around the block being 10 years older than I. Not sure if it is morbid or not, but I respect other men's decisions regardless of whether I would do it or not. I will respect whatever another man chooses to do with his life, whilst being understanding. Life is brutal, we all have experienced varying degrees of said brutality, and we all cope in different ways (some destructive, some restrictive - though we all are going to the same place, regardless). Perhaps stoicism, I am not sure.

It is unfortunate that we ended up here.

I definitely expect my organs to fail by then tbh. I'm kind of counting on it at this point. Just waiting to die. And in doing so I can reduce the amount of personal responsibility I have in that decision. It'll be based

 

[Asgard]

Why do you say you suck?

Most times I get all my ideas from other servers. I got my own crafted ideas, but they're pretty much IRL complex things... and people wouldn't certainly enjoy them.

 

[Asgard]

visual styling

I struggle with that as well. My main design pattern is still stuck on the 2000s era websites.

 

[The Enforcer]

Bloody hell. Either you are super horny, or I am not horny enough. Probably both are true.

The first is definitely true. I hate it

Honestly, based haha. It is what it is.

Tbh. Death is a bonus