Imo only sexually active non-betabuxx LTR and F+ count, everything else is cope including ONS (unless you’re able to repeat the success at least once in a year, kek)
im on the fence on this one. not easy to answer....but probably ONS with sober cunt
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Ascend can mean two things:
1. You simply escaped inceldom;
2. Having unpaid sex with someone who is above your level. If you are a 5 and manage to have sex with a 7 out of 10 woman, you ascended. If you are a 5 and date or have sex with a 5, you are no longer an involuntary celibate, but you did not ascend in a hard way.
1. You simply escaped inceldom;
2. Having unpaid sex with someone who is above your level. If you are a 5 and manage to have sex with a 7 out of 10 woman, you ascended. If you are a 5 and date or have sex with a 5, you are no longer an involuntary celibate, but you did not ascend in a hard way.
trucel if your sister wont fuck you
Those last 2 options 
Acceptance into heaven.
Having a virgin wife that doesn't cheat on you and you get along with. Average KHHV incel wet dream.
useles thread tbh
That means that most +60 y old balding fat university teachers that pass young students exams for sex ascending?
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Acension (I ticked for these):
ONS with sober foid- If a sober foid likes you enough to fuck you, it means you are attractive to at least a range of foids and also means you almost certainly have access to relationships as well.
Sexually active LTR (non-betabuxxing)- Pretty self explanatory.
FWB- Arguably one of the ultimate ascensions because if a girl likes you SO MUCH that she is willing to REGULARLY have sex with you without requiring the commitment of a romantic relationship, she REALLY likes you and thus you are probably a chad.
I didn't tick for ONS with drunk foid because even if it is better than most of us can hope to achieve, it might not mean much. Really depends of the level of drunkness of the foid. If she is black out, it just means that she doesn't really know what she is doing. A foid in this state will probably fuck anything you put in front of her. Also have fun with the rape allegations. But if she is just tipsy/standard drunk, yes this could potentially be ascension. So yeah, depends on level of drunkness.
Psuedo-ascension (didn't tick):
Sexually active LTR (betabuxxing)- For me if I ever achieve this (if I even want to) I would not count it as ascending. If a girl is using you for money, settling with you for "stability" after hitting the wall and wanting to "settle" aka be taken care of, she will never love you. She will never be attracted to you. It is essentially long-term escorting. But maybe if the girl is willing to cook, have sex regularly and is a warm body to cuddle at night that is enough for some people and better than being foreveralone. Personally I would find it degrading and I don't think I could do it.
Incest- Maybe if I had a hot sister lmao idk. Would prefer step sibling but that's not really incest. In any case, not ascension for me.
Not ascension (didn't click obviously):
Sexually inactive LTR- This is just called being friends/roommates LMAO. How is there ascension with no sex? You may as well just chill with your bros instead.
Escortcelling- Anyone can pay for sex. If escortcelling counted as ascension, we should just delete this forum now and retards that argue for it being ascension need to just go and fuck an escort and see if they feel like any less of an incel. Fucking an escort is not like a ONS, you didn't woo the girl, she doesn't really like you and it doesn't prove anything about your ability to obtain sex outside of escortcelling or having an actual relationship. So why did I put betabuxxing in psuedo-ascension? Well, arguably it means that you have SOME ability with foids if they are willing to cohabit even if it is mostly about the providing, and at least you have access to many of the things of a normal relationship.
Gaymaxxing/Trannymaxxing- These are the same thing. If you have to "go gay" or become a tranny (or start fucking trannies) in order to get sex and relationships, you did not ascend; you were just desperate. In no sane society should men be forced to turn prison gay or to grow tits in order to have sex. To allow either of these options to be considered ascension we may as well all pack up our bags now and rope.
ONS with sober foid- If a sober foid likes you enough to fuck you, it means you are attractive to at least a range of foids and also means you almost certainly have access to relationships as well.
Sexually active LTR (non-betabuxxing)- Pretty self explanatory.
FWB- Arguably one of the ultimate ascensions because if a girl likes you SO MUCH that she is willing to REGULARLY have sex with you without requiring the commitment of a romantic relationship, she REALLY likes you and thus you are probably a chad.
I didn't tick for ONS with drunk foid because even if it is better than most of us can hope to achieve, it might not mean much. Really depends of the level of drunkness of the foid. If she is black out, it just means that she doesn't really know what she is doing. A foid in this state will probably fuck anything you put in front of her. Also have fun with the rape allegations. But if she is just tipsy/standard drunk, yes this could potentially be ascension. So yeah, depends on level of drunkness.
Psuedo-ascension (didn't tick):
Sexually active LTR (betabuxxing)- For me if I ever achieve this (if I even want to) I would not count it as ascending. If a girl is using you for money, settling with you for "stability" after hitting the wall and wanting to "settle" aka be taken care of, she will never love you. She will never be attracted to you. It is essentially long-term escorting. But maybe if the girl is willing to cook, have sex regularly and is a warm body to cuddle at night that is enough for some people and better than being foreveralone. Personally I would find it degrading and I don't think I could do it.
Incest- Maybe if I had a hot sister lmao idk. Would prefer step sibling but that's not really incest. In any case, not ascension for me.
Not ascension (didn't click obviously):
Sexually inactive LTR- This is just called being friends/roommates LMAO. How is there ascension with no sex? You may as well just chill with your bros instead.
Escortcelling- Anyone can pay for sex. If escortcelling counted as ascension, we should just delete this forum now and retards that argue for it being ascension need to just go and fuck an escort and see if they feel like any less of an incel. Fucking an escort is not like a ONS, you didn't woo the girl, she doesn't really like you and it doesn't prove anything about your ability to obtain sex outside of escortcelling or having an actual relationship. So why did I put betabuxxing in psuedo-ascension? Well, arguably it means that you have SOME ability with foids if they are willing to cohabit even if it is mostly about the providing, and at least you have access to many of the things of a normal relationship.
Gaymaxxing/Trannymaxxing- These are the same thing. If you have to "go gay" or become a tranny (or start fucking trannies) in order to get sex and relationships, you did not ascend; you were just desperate. In no sane society should men be forced to turn prison gay or to grow tits in order to have sex. To allow either of these options to be considered ascension we may as well all pack up our bags now and rope.
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anyone? I don't have 500 bucks to spend on that. If I buy a hooker I'll starve for the next few months
There are hookers available for 100 bucks. If you truly considered escortcelling to be ascension you could definitely save up and do it. But it really isn't.
like I said, a hooker isn't worth more money to me, than eating for a month. that's just retarded
Then we are agreed it's not ascension at least?
I'm personally split on this, but I guess. I think to a certain extent it is, because if you have the money to spend on luxuries like that you probably earn enough money to get a whore who only likes you for your money anyway
Full time gold diggers are FAR more expensive than getting an escort once. I have enough that I could maybe get an escort every few months (although I don't anymore because it is a waste of money and not that great anyway) but I could never be a sugar daddy
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