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Foids aren’t into short manlets
Didn’t say they were, they’d be kept as orbiters
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Chirag Gupta orbited holly hills
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Ah yes, excellent, let’s all discuss sub-8 theory and racepill again.
Can’t wait to hear all the brand new, original opinions on these rarely mentioned topics.
Can’t wait to hear all the brand new, original opinions on these rarely mentioned topics.
I would like to be treated with kindness and respect.
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Not really an opinion
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We all want it
1 - Some manlets with great facial aesthetics can be slayers too, especially if they "prettyboymaxx"
2 - I also don't care much if a foid is a non-virgin, as long as she never did something absolutely degenerate frequently and don't have any STDs
3 - I don't think "stripping rights from women" is an optimal solution, but I think it should become clearer in society that with rights, also comes duties. Many women these days wants every right but no duties/responsibilities. Everything already works on their favor, enough is enough and there should be no more concessions especially for those who already live on the tutorial mode.
4 - White men aren't as privileged as some ethniccels think.
5 - Unicorn foids do exist, the ones that are attractive, aren't hypergamous and would even settle down for someone below their looksmatch that isn't even a betabux, but still, they are "Unicorns" so extremely rare to come by , like one in five million, but they get taken/engaged very soon in their lives so that's why you don't see those available on the dating scene. It's very rare to find one that is older than 20 years old. If you are an incel, you basically have to be very young and "win the life lottery" to find one of these.
6 - Being Chad does not automatically grant you a harem of Stacies. There was a Tinder experiment here by wizardcel, where he used a chad/chadlite, had around 50 matches in a span of 2 days in his city, and most of the foids were low tier beckies and landwhales. It seems that Stacies are becoming rarer on dating apps in some places because they get chad boyfriends in real life and don't use apps.
7 - While the "Dogpill" is true, it isn't as common as some users think, nor it is relevant. What is relevant is that yes, some women would preferer to put anything in their vagina but an unattractive male's penis.
8 - Elliot Rodger wasn't very attractive (as proven by some dating app experiments), but still could have ascended if he made serious efforts to looksmax and statusmax, he wasn't poor and I'm sure he could have done so. He was also extremely picky about his taste in foids, only wanting blond stacies and didn't really consider a hapa gf just like him or foids from other ethnicites.
9 - People aren't missing much for never having a "teenage love". Teenage foids are as shallow and superficial as it can get, and are the most "Chad chasers" since looks matters to them more than status until they reach adulthood. Their mindset and personalities are even worse than that of an average child. The only thing going for them is their youthful looks, but those who obsess with these foids over their looks are picky faggots and Stacy chasers that don't deserve a place in this community. C'mon dudes, you are fucking incels who never attracted much attention from regular foids and you want a Stacy?
10 - Reliouscels are copers. Yeah, let's praise deities that sentences us to loneliness by giving us poor genetics and will ultimately send chad to "heaven" because he was such a good boy during his entire life because he received so much validation and affection over his attractiveness that makes him sense things in life positively, "being good to others" and ultimately "going to heaven" over it. So basically chad is sentenced to heaven since birth as "god" made him with good genes.
2 - I also don't care much if a foid is a non-virgin, as long as she never did something absolutely degenerate frequently and don't have any STDs
3 - I don't think "stripping rights from women" is an optimal solution, but I think it should become clearer in society that with rights, also comes duties. Many women these days wants every right but no duties/responsibilities. Everything already works on their favor, enough is enough and there should be no more concessions especially for those who already live on the tutorial mode.
4 - White men aren't as privileged as some ethniccels think.
5 - Unicorn foids do exist, the ones that are attractive, aren't hypergamous and would even settle down for someone below their looksmatch that isn't even a betabux, but still, they are "Unicorns" so extremely rare to come by , like one in five million, but they get taken/engaged very soon in their lives so that's why you don't see those available on the dating scene. It's very rare to find one that is older than 20 years old. If you are an incel, you basically have to be very young and "win the life lottery" to find one of these.
6 - Being Chad does not automatically grant you a harem of Stacies. There was a Tinder experiment here by wizardcel, where he used a chad/chadlite, had around 50 matches in a span of 2 days in his city, and most of the foids were low tier beckies and landwhales. It seems that Stacies are becoming rarer on dating apps in some places because they get chad boyfriends in real life and don't use apps.
7 - While the "Dogpill" is true, it isn't as common as some users think, nor it is relevant. What is relevant is that yes, some women would preferer to put anything in their vagina but an unattractive male's penis.
8 - Elliot Rodger wasn't very attractive (as proven by some dating app experiments), but still could have ascended if he made serious efforts to looksmax and statusmax, he wasn't poor and I'm sure he could have done so. He was also extremely picky about his taste in foids, only wanting blond stacies and didn't really consider a hapa gf just like him or foids from other ethnicites.
9 - People aren't missing much for never having a "teenage love". Teenage foids are as shallow and superficial as it can get, and are the most "Chad chasers" since looks matters to them more than status until they reach adulthood. Their mindset and personalities are even worse than that of an average child. The only thing going for them is their youthful looks, but those who obsess with these foids over their looks are picky faggots and Stacy chasers that don't deserve a place in this community. C'mon dudes, you are fucking incels who never attracted much attention from regular foids and you want a Stacy?
10 - Reliouscels are copers. Yeah, let's praise deities that sentences us to loneliness by giving us poor genetics and will ultimately send chad to "heaven" because he was such a good boy during his entire life because he received so much validation and affection over his attractiveness that makes him sense things in life positively, "being good to others" and ultimately "going to heaven" over it. So basically chad is sentenced to heaven since birth as "god" made him with good genes.
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Who doesn’t want a stacy?
I don't obsess over them and I would gladly settle for a becky as I'm not a picky faggot. I'm as Incel as this forum deserves and I simply want to ascend by having a normal life of dating and sex with average foids.
Not one wordWomen should be treated well, but under enforced monogamy where they have no choice over who they are put with for the rest of their lives, and they should not be allowed to go anywhere where their activity cannot be monitored and they cannot be punished. However, they should only be help responsible for being actively destructive to men's ability to sustain women. Men exist to support women, women exist to make babies. Both should be shackled to one another. Women should receive pleasure and luxury, but not freedom. Men should receive freedom, but not pleasure nor luxury.
The tradcon myth that, "WoMeN aRe NaTuRaLlY sUbMisSiVe" is bullshit, women are NOT naturally submissive, they are naturally rebellious, and always shit-testing. They can't be reasoned with because that would get in the way of shit-testing. We should care about the future of society, creating a non-degenerate society, but a beta revolution (Betrev) is necessary to make this happen.
I hate the phrase, "act like men". No, women's job is not to be submissive to you. They should be allowed to explore who they are, be required to have sex with their provider once per day, and cuddle with him while he sleeps. That's it. JFL if you think it's reasonable to require anything else.
I ideologically believe that giving into the "female game" in our society is immoral. What that means is having sex with, dating, marrying, or even looking at, flirting with, or giving attention to women in any way is disgusting in my view, that being said I am not MGTOW either. I've only believed this in the last 2 years or so; before that I was bluepilled.
I am a revolutionary; I believe that a social revolution is necessary to overthrow hypergamy and institute enforced monogamy in which men get their pick, and a bureau evaluates men's overall "value" (factoring things like IQ, income, attractiveness, health, problem-solving, work ethic, moral compass, etc.) to society, and giving men their first pick in order of their "value". This is slightly different from the blackpill "looksmatch" shit.
I believe that to give in to women's "agenda" is to be disgusting. PUAs are some of the most disgusting people alive. MGTOW is retarded because they have no vision for humanity's future, and they generally don't give a shit and are also pro-porn, whereas I have a plan, give a shit, and am anti-porn. So you could call me a "volcel", but let's be real if I wasn't a volcel I'd be an incel, we both know it. MRAs are just "anti-identitarian" lolbertarians who call themselves the REAL feminists and would be totally satisfied with a "gender equal" society, which is stupid.
I don't believe in "ascending" through any method other than revolution, really. I call this ideology "Betrev" (short for Beta Revolution) and it follows in the footsteps of Elliot Rodger just as much as incels do.
A few more things: I have a bajillion fetishes (would be easier to name the fetishes I don't have TBH, all discoved on my own and NOT through porn). I am sexually masochistic/submissive, which is another reason why I believe myself to be incapable of attracting women. I believe that this should become socially acceptable, furthermore that it is in no way inferior to other types of sex. I have been diagnosed with severe depression by two officially licensed psychologists. All my teachers growing up said I had ADHD, but my conservative, Israel-loving parents believed that was liberal propaganda so they never got that checked out. I was really kind to everyone growing up, which led to so many situations that, looking back on it now, I got seriously manipulated by everyone around me because of my trusting, "gullible" nature. Am addicted to masturbation, but not porn. I believe incels focus too much on chin structure as well, and I believe that women have the following nature:
They make decisions based on their emotions and their social status.
They crave attention and validation at all costs
They want Chads and rich guys (survival and cocks+shit-testing+R-reproductive strategy)
They are ALWAYS shit-testing
I believe women literally constantly engage in an activity I call "societal shit-testing", in which they intentionally act evil to see what men will do about it. This is a huge reason for promiscuity, etc. This is why they cannot be trusted with ANYTHING, ever.
An ideal relationship, however, is one where the man does all the work including all the housework, then demands sex with his wife. If she refuses, he is authorized to punish her however he wishes, even through isolation in a dark room with nothing but a dark floor, no interaction, no bed, just a week of going insane in a room. Maybe even add daily torture devices to the room if that doesn't work. This is, of course, after relationships are chosen in the Betrev manner.
Women are attracted to the men who FEEL the most powerful, which includes a powerful jaw, douchebag nature, gangbanging, pump-and-dump kind of guy who is MOST LIKELY to pump and dump her. Why? A huge reason is shit-testing, another, horniness. Social status, attention, and validation can all come into play.
These men, described above are also some of the WORST men for society as a whole. Thus, Betrev (my ideology, I am OG) believes that incels do NOT necessarily have inferior genes, in fact we reject the whole notion that how much a woman is attracted to a man determines his worth at all. We DO believe breeding is necessary for a prosperous civilization, we are ultimately pro-fertility. We are also pro-progenics, which is the policy of peacefully using certain policies such as abolishing the welfare state and tax breaks for low-income people who don't breed, while having tax increases for high-income people who don't breed.
I disagree that hypergamy has to exist, at least in a way that has long-term effects. Betrev society would be extremely sexually restrictive. All men would have the option to "choose" a woman by age 15. The ritual of competition for certain women and comparison would occur, and then after that point, both partners would be locked in for life. At the end, the 15-year-old with the lowest quality genes would end up with the woman with the lowest quality genes (obviously choices only available in his age bracket), but would end up matched nonetheless. This process would be done by the state. And from this point on, divorce would be illegal and adultery punishable by prison time. Any and all sex outside of this long-term lifetime commitment with one person would be completely socially unacceptable, even MORE so than it was in Britain between 1500-1900. As such, no hypergamy, except for whatever dating and such happens prior to age 15, would occur. This is an ideal situation.
I believe that everyone one does in life should and could NOT be to gain respect of the same sex and impress the other, especially if one is an incel. One should not think of one's life in a hierarchical fashion, but rather quit the hierarchical game and do as I attempt to-do one's best to achieve a goal that one only has because that is the thing that motivates one to not kill oneself and continue to sustain one's existence, therefore one MIGHT AS WELL continue to sustain oneself, MAXIMALLY sustain oneself, and maximally pursue the POSSIBILITY that keeps one holding on to life. For me, that is Betrev, and I want it to be for many people on this forum as well. I also believe that every single thing about humans is entirely predetermined by genetics and environment, and thus pride, guilt, shame, and honor are all irrational emotions. Every single human in human history has ALWAYS done their best to do whatever it is that they want to do, tempered by genetic, environmental, and motivational factors. Motivation itself is also determined by genetics and environment. Therefore, blame, credit, guilt, and pride are all evil emotions that should be maximally repressed to orient oneself towards the scientific reality. That includes zero-sum-style hierarchical Jordan Petersonian lobster-type thinking.
Women are not capable of love in any way at any point.
Virgin women are no more valuable than non-virgin women.
I believe that white guys are not sex gods, and that black men in the USA have higher SMV than your average white guy. Worldwide, however, whites win.
If all men became millionaires, women would only date billionaires, if all men were 7' tall women would only date 8' and over. You CAN'T reduce the number of incels without either changing the gender ratio to be unbalanced with significantly more women than men, or taking women's rights away. Period.
If "Chad" or "Stacy" were born an incel, with our exact same genetics, upbringing, and social status growing up they would have done exactly what we have done-namely, some of them would kill themselves, and the rest would just be chronically depressed.
Incels are just a population group that happens to be treated like shit, there is no reason to assume we have more willpower than the average person.
JFL at not enjoying girls bullying you. If it's going to happen anyway...
It is in women's best biological interest to act in a way that actively hurts men, because they cannot hurt men who understand their nature. Men will stop them from destroying anything by maximally restricting them, they do not mind this. In order to truly destroy men, they must sustain some semblence of sanity-they must do some basic housework, childcare, etc. The bare minimum. After all, survival and reproduction IS a primary goal of theirs. In order for men to be maximally miserable, they must continue to exist and be miserable for the longest possible time frame. Further, they must believe that women are sweet angels to maximize their misery and disappointment. Women who constantly tried to destroy their own tribes were at an advantage because, when their tribe eventually became overrun by a stronger tribe, they would be the most advantaged in the new society and make the most babies/be most likely to become concubines in their new society.
This is why women will do anything to please and support the man they are not with, but once they are with him they will do anything to sabotage him. Because cucked men were more likely to be overrun, by being loyal to the stronger men they were more likely to survive well. But contrary to "red pill" ideas, women are NOT more likely to be loyal to strong men. Instead, they try to sabotage their husbands and whoever survives and is still able to reproduce with her and not kill himself is the "victor". Of course, the test is ongoing and never ends. They don't "like" strong men. They don't care about anything but survival. They're more like animals than they are like men.
Because men can control women, there is no disadvantage to acting "naughty"-all it means is that the men in her tribe will be selected for more harshly, that she will reproduce more if her tribe gets invaded, and since it turns men on it probably means she will make more babies. Also, if a woman gets too good at something, breeding may not become a priority for her and she may be used for her talent, so if she just acts like a bitch then she ensures she is seen as USELESS for anything other than breeding, to ensure that she breeds. And if she is degenerate, and makes men miserable if they attempt to work with her, then she will be sure to not be allowed to work, thus maximizing the number of babies she can make. The only "disadvantage" is she is locked in the home. Big deal. She still makes babies, so it makes zero difference from a reproductive standpoint.
If a woman acts in the opposite manner ("good"), she will have her chances of reproduction reduced in the same ways that her chances are increased if she acts in the above manner ("bad").
THAT is why women want to destroy. Though I do agree this concept you presented applies in general, I don't believe it is the reason for this specific anomaly.
I am no PUA. I think that it is degenerate and immoral to give women any attention, validation, dating, sex, relationships, or anything of the sort in this current society. I am not MGTOW, either, because MGTOW just wants men to leave with no plan for the future of humanity. I want to maximally support what it is that men most care about, which is to be loved and accepted for who we are. I have faith that, if we put everything we have into overturning this society and creating a new society in which men can access women and love and acceptance no matter their social status, a society that ignores egos and the dominance hierarchy in favor of production to sustain what we love, we have a slight chance. Our goal SHOULD be to be loved, to get women for ALL men, but IN ORDER to do this, we must have an unparalleled social revolution in which we do something never done before. In order to do this, we must completely ignore women and stockpile resources for now. This is my philosophy-Betrev, short for Beta Revolution, and it is neither MRA, nor MGTOW, nor PUA, nor incel/black pill. It is unique.
For those of you who managed to get to the end.
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I know you’d still enjoy a stacy more
I never said it wasn't
Probably ngl, but I still would feel I wouldn't be missing much. Most women age like milk anyways, even (especially) Stacies.
And escortcelling is legal in my country, so I could get my "Stacy fuck" fix anytime as long as I get a lot of money.
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Women become less hot in their 30s
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Chads / chad adjacent people don't get swarmed by foids every day. Some make it seem as though they dont have to put in the slightest bit of effort to get laid, since Incels themselves usually have to put in an immeasurable amount of effort. A chad who never approaches women and can't keep up a conversation could go years without sex, since the status of women in society has reached the point where they feel above having to hit on men. This is an unpopular opinion since it feeds into the "personality is everything" angle, which we here know to be false for the most part.
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Can a chad who acts like a freak get girls?
I think an older chad who never approaches would have a hard time getting laid with Stacies, but I'm pretty sure he still could get some lower tier beckies approaching him from time to time and would be unlikely to remain sexless.
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Chads do get approached
I didn't deny that and I was also referring to older Chads
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Like 50 year olds?
Like 30something and beyond
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Can an elderchad exist?
Probably but would have less SMV than a young chad
A lot of younger foids would probably gossip that he's handsome but wouldn't approach because "he's old enough to be her dad"
But he still could get laid if he tried
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Who’s an elder chad?
Lmao.
Keep coping boyo
Average = Unattractive so sentenced to a life of Inceldom or starfish sex with a wife that doesn't want you.
I don't think trying to be happy without having sex is cope.
Come at me.
Come at me.
I wouldn't mind a girl with previous bf's but i'd do care if she got pumped and dumped.
Also let's face it, traditional marriage is not paradise. I'm not saying that i wouldn't appreciate more now that i'm blackpilled but the sad truth is that sexual boredom exists.
There is this practice that seems even less popular than soy polyamory that consists in having an exclusive romantic partner but they can get hook ups.
I know that this would be imbalanced in favor of the woman but that will mean that you can go escortmaxx without your gf getting mad about it.
God damnit, while i wrote this i realized how you could easily become just a betabux... sounds nice in theory but i'm starting to believe that a woman can't never love you like men love them.
Also let's face it, traditional marriage is not paradise. I'm not saying that i wouldn't appreciate more now that i'm blackpilled but the sad truth is that sexual boredom exists.
There is this practice that seems even less popular than soy polyamory that consists in having an exclusive romantic partner but they can get hook ups.
I know that this would be imbalanced in favor of the woman but that will mean that you can go escortmaxx without your gf getting mad about it.
God damnit, while i wrote this i realized how you could easily become just a betabux... sounds nice in theory but i'm starting to believe that a woman can't never love you like men love them.
40something and beyond
I've seen a 50yo chad with a 20something foid, but she was way below his looksmatch
I think older chads needs to be money/statusmaxxed in order to get more attention from better looking young foids
Tbh OP most of your thoughts are the same as mines (especially the sub8 thing here in my country)
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What county do you live in?
Unicorns do exist , its just no one have seen one yet.
You haven't because they are most likely already taken by another man and not on the dating market.
Don't wanna say cuz doxxing
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Irrelevant
I approve all that said @Edmund_Kemper in the first comment but i also think that climate change is real, that there are no races superior to another and that that sometimes people there tend to exaggerate when it comes to politics
That’s probably true tbhngldedsrs
Also, you aren’t a real inkwell until you’re at least 23. Before that, I’ll just consider you a failed normie. (Circumstantial however)
face>>height.
the main thing about height is you have to be taller than the foid. From what I’ve seen, even short guys can get shorter girls. I’ve seen many couples on campus like this. Even though manlets in denial will say “but the short foids want tall guys”.
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That's not an unpopular opinion, in fact I believe most people here realize that
Sub8 law is taking off though tbh. More people are adhering to it. Even myself. I think sub8 is actually becoming more and more true as time passes, as toilets are becoming more and more egotistical with higher standards.
I was being sarcastic
I know lol.
The real blackpill is that even 9/10 chads in relationships can be cucked/cheated eventually if the foid finds someone with similar SMV and extra quirks. They just have too many options. The female nature isn't limited to physicality, and women "get bored" fast.
sub 8 theory is true, being nt means nothing
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Sub8 theory is unrealistic
but why though
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I always see normies date beckys
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