RageFuel Went to the shopping mall and NORMIES DO HAVE GFS YOU COPING FAGGOTS!!!
Most Americans think Europe is a country lmfao, they legit live in a bubble
*30%-50% in America.
You think 50% of people in america never have sex? JFL
For people aged 16-32, it's a definite possibility. I feel like it may be skewed, because a lot of sub-Chadlites who aren't virgins around my age ascend with either fatties (in a lucky situation) or prostitutes. I indirectly know several people my age who never had a gf, but aren't virgins because they fucked an escort.
Oh yeah of course, all Euros are identical right, no difference at all lol.
just jfl at the bergercel replies, burgers are on anotha level of self obsession and feeling of importance
B..but only 5% of males get laid bro!
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When I go out in London I hardly ever see looksmatched normie couples.
Sub 8 is gigacope. It's more like sub 4.
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Yeah and when they get rejected, they don't become traumatized and become shut-ins, they keep living their life and get a GF sooner than later.
Users here are among the most sensitive, anxious and intense members of the male population. Plenty of users here are average or slightly above. And we even have quite a few very tall whites with normal faces.
People dismiss their mental issues as problems because "top 0.5% GigaChad says he is autistic on tinder many women don't care" so instead they see the solution as becoming Chad (impossible) rather than resolving their behaviour which is the realistic option.
Sure, dating is NOT easy. The issue as I said, plenty of users here are quick to give up, they are to sensitive to rejection and they are intense in their approach to relationships. When users mention their X number of cold approaches as "proof" of inceldom or something, that's how you know they are massive Autists, it really proves my point.
Very high IQ post. Make it its own thread tbh
wow...
that's the kind of shit that happens when you leave the basement.
that's the kind of shit that happens when you leave the basement.
I bet the majority of guys in the 4-6 range don’t have girlfriends
Yes when it comes to zoomers and prolly millennials under like 30
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By the age of 20, only 15% are virgins (read virgin, not incel)
And I don't know how many, but a portion of those virgins would be virgin because religion etc. etc. Even have had relationships or kissing before.
It's Over.
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some of these people cant be saved tbh.
I did. I went to parties too , was part of social circles
Leave the fucking basement
I don't know how you can say this then. I see below average dudes with gfs all the time
Read my comment again. I said majority. For every 10+ average guys I met , Only 2 or 3 weren’t single , Some were even dating fat chicks jfl
Maybe in Germany, the difference between normies and Incels is higher than in America, but less between Normies and Chads (or: less Chads). I also see many normal couples out here.
But don't forget girls love also go shopping with their best gay friend.
These normies might not be 8/10 but they also score high in other areas of life: money, status. And malls are basically designed to be a place for a women 80% of every shop is female section.
Incels are minority and we will be minority, but we still might become one of the largest social group in world. Hundreds of millions men left behind in India, China, Japan. Stats are carzy female:male ratio, % of virgins, frequency how often men have sex.
Incels are minority and we will be minority, but we still might become one of the largest social group in world. Hundreds of millions men left behind in India, China, Japan. Stats are carzy female:male ratio, % of virgins, frequency how often men have sex.
From what i've experienced It's the opposite
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I've made threads about it. Also, guess where did those normans met their girls? Ofcourse not Tinder.
@Gymcelled @mNFwTJ3wz9 thoughts on this brutal social circle pill?
@BududubNow eat shit faggot and keep coping with your "muh 128 IQ"
2013. This was made before tinder got big
Fact is that most of us are basement dwelling mentalcels,normies do get gf's
She will fuck Chad and try to get with him.
Doesn't refute the fact that normies are in relationships
Honestly it depends a lot on location/country
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where is your 50% from? also, having no sex in a year=/=incel. they probably still had sex. also, according to articles, it isn't because of hypergamy or tinder. only like 3 million americans use tinder and most relationships from online dating come from non-dating apps. hypergamy has always existed. any boomercel will tell you. men are having less sex because nowadays many men are growing up more gradually, many are focusing more on studies than socializing and many are so addicted to social media that they don't talk to others.
I never said normies can't be in relationships, that is retarded. Otherwise they would be incels.
Holy shit is everyone a fakecel shill here? 30-50% is from studies and my personal experience. 30% of american young men are virgin, like my pic above says. And it's not just no sex in past year, it's for men under 30 with no sex since 18. I also made a post a while ago where an australian study says how 40% of young men are virgins. And back in my high school class roughly half of guys never had a gf.
Also you're bluepilled on the reason men don't have sex today. Sure, hypergamy always existed, but you have to admit that it's worse now since the last decade where women have instagram, tiktok and tinder and were fed with chad models on tv and media since childhood. As a result the average looking man doesn't exist for them anymore and in just a few clicks they can meet chads from the entire city or beyond.
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never having a gf=/=virgin. ever heard of ONS? casual sex? no strings attached? fwb?
also, australia isn't the US. and many of those men had sex before 18. also you can't use your personal experience, thats the anecdotal fallacy
and no, hypergamy is nothing new. Ask any boomercel like @FrustratedWhiteMale it was always a thing. also, most people don't use tinder.
most men these days spend so much time on social media they don't find someone to date and stay to themselves. they're volcels. and many are growing up very gradually. college students are partying less, socializing less, and many are struggling to enter adulthood. look it up. it has nothing to do with tinder, which only 3 million americans use.
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For incels It doesn't change much because regardless of that we are ugly and it's over since the beginning but mentalceldom is definitely a thing for normies and above.
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That is some shitty study or survey probably from early 2000s.
This stat is pretty deceiving it makes it seem as like a third of adult men don't have sex. Which is completely wrong.
So 15 of the 27% are virgins at 20. And not necessarily because they are ugly.
We have a remaining 12% of previous underage sex havers, which hadn't had sex since they turned 18, for a variety of reasons but not because of their looks of course, since they managed to do so before. I doubt of this percentage are 30 year olds, likely 18s and 19s who didn't get laid since they turned into adults. Definitely not escortcels when underage.
Exactly, and that's the norm especially in young people. Non-commitment.
This is a key difference between Normal people and Incels. Normal people have a casual and relaxed approach to relationships, while Incels driven by insecurity are intense and do shit like cold approaches (asking out strangers on a date), stalking and having oneitises.
Incels, out of trauma and developed fear of abandonment (due to high sensitivity to negative experiences), tend to shut in and avoid situations and interactions with people if there is no good guaranteed reward.
Which is one of the main reasons of which I believe is the cause of inceldom, for plenty of average looking people here, they are to insecure, anxious and intense. That scares people away who are looking to have fun, since it makes them feel as if you want to lock them down, while they want to be free to meet more people, be with other people who they don't wanna lose, see their options, experience life.
Yup, as the technological complexity of our society increases, and wealth inequality, the (especially mental) labour required from people is skyrocketing. This makes it hard to spend time in relationships. People don't really become functional adults until they are 30, without that stability it's hard to maintain those relationships.
People aren't looking for committed until they have homes and have advanced their careers and that, usually mid to late 30s.
honestly at this point i'd content with time travelling back to the 90s just to actually visit malls and live in a better economy / society
would be fine without a GF
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its from 2013That is some shitty study or survey probably from early 2000s.
It is not inherently pathological to be "insecure, anxious, and intense," as these neurotic traits conferred evolutionary advantages in previous generations, when liberalism and capitalism were not (as) hegemonic, and there was a strong cultural incentive to pair bond in your most fertile years.
The fact that careless and casual sexual affairs, which not only mean nothing, but habituate people to social alienation, are the norm among young people, is, if anything, the true pathology here, as this form of sexuality only comes naturally to psychopaths and narcissists.
As for the rest of us, there is no alternative but to become traumatized by this, and whether you cope with the trauma of your fundamental estrangement and expendability as an atomized individual, untethered to any permanent bonds, by adapting and becoming a sort of psychopath yourself or retreating even further into neuroticism is a largely a matter of genetics anyway.
Many people simply cannot cope, and what happens is a messy fragmentation of personality, the ultimate expression of which is Multiple Personality Disorder, which precludes any stability and satisfaction in life (even in maturity), precisely because it's built for an environment that's unstable and unsatisfying. Hence the high divorce rates, and the epidemic of neglected and abused children.
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That is some shitty study or survey probably from early 2000s.
Way to mock us go back to IT
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This is true. in more primitive societies, people reached adulthood much sooner, by adulthood I mean a defined identity, the necessary skillset and ability to survive and contribute. As I explained at the end of my comment, due to the increasing complexity of technology and inequality, the labour necessary to reach this stage is greatly offset; in the modern day many people do not become self-actualized adults until around their early or mid 30s, they finish highschool at their late teens, higher education in their mid 20s, and they struggle to start and advance their careers and acquire a comfortable pay.
While someone in a more technologically primitive society, required significantly less education and preparation to develop the necessary skill set to become a productive, self-actualized adult, able to take on responsibilities of marriage and family.
An anecdotal example is that of my grandparents, and the farming village they belonged to, they married and had children before turning 18. That was the norm in that environment. They were able to bear the responsibilities of it.
My argument is that most normies are not seeking commitment in the first place so they are not traumatized by non-commitment to begin with.
People are not seeking committed relationships because they themselves are not stable, self-actualized. Modern young people are in this infantile state, they have the bodies of adults but the mental and socioeconomic states of dependent children.
As pointed out in this graph
Socioeconomic stability is necessary to the stability of a relationship, just as we see in many other monogamous species, the basis of a monogamous relationship is to have the material stability necessary to raise child.
People don't have that, so their committed relationships don't work out or more often simply avoid (don't seek) commitment. They still have sex because of their biological urges, but as I said mentally they are children, they can understand the responsibility of commitment and marriage but they are not prepared for it, so it scares them off.
Normies are not traumatized by non-commitment, quite the opposite. You just have to see how they react to pregnancy.
again, modern 20 year olds do not reach the material state necessary to mature into seeking commitment.
That's the result of offset adulthood, it correlates with sexual promiscuity but it is not the initial cause of it. The initial cause are the material (technological) conditions of society. As I explained, people don't develop their identity and don't establish themselves in society until very late in life.
people who deny this tend to have no irl social contacts, no friends at school, no coworkers that they talk to, etc. so they get their entire perception of normies from the internet. if you actually told your normie coworkers or whatever that you're a virgin who's never had a girlfriend they'd laugh at you and think you're a loser
Somewhat valid.
It's not a feasible way to ascend anymore, but those who ntmaxxed and socialcirclemaxxed 5-10 years ago night be getting gf's using that method.
But overall going to mall's and seeing couples is pretty normal and should be expected. There's no reason for a single normie to go to the mall alone. The observation on the thread is a result of sampling bias.
Unverified anecdotal evidence that could be biased (or not idk)
I've made threads about it. Also, guess where did those normans met their girls? Ofcourse not Tinder.
@Gymcelled @mNFwTJ3wz9 thoughts on this brutal social circle pill?
@BududubNow eat shit faggot and keep coping with your "muh 128 IQ"
My experience is the opposite, far less couples nowadays than there were pre 2010. Even in college lots of girls would outright say they only want fuck buddies or they're only willing to be in a relationship if it's an open relationship
normies usually do ascend, they get sub average foids and thats it end of story
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I suspect that this is rapidly increasing as more and more men in this fucking gay soyciety lose their sense of masculinity.
When the very pillars that hold up any identity you might find or construct for yourself are attacked (a la feminism and their attacks on "toxic masculinity") you become confused and unsure. Your development as a complete person becomes stunted. Being a man that is respected by society is a rite of passage, but when all you're hearing is "male patriarchy" this and "oppressive male" that you can never truly form a complete identity. This may, in part, describe the increase in transexuality.
I'd bet that a large percentage of trannies are simply confused men who've been brainwashed by soyciety to think that being a man a bad thing. When they realize a too late (post op
) that they got duped by soyciety and that they truly don't have any real identity and role as both a failed and incomplete man, but also now as some hybrid chimera with male DNA, bone and muscle density, but with tits and no biologically functioning genitals, they end up roping and adding to that unsurprisingly high suicide statistic.Similar threads
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