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"Weight loss is cope. Chad has bones at 20% body fat"

itsOVER said:
Those things aren't reliable in the least. At 50kg my bf % won't be high anyway.

It'll be high if you have zero muscle mass. That's what is keeping you from looking like the guy in the pics. Unless you get ConcentrationCamp-tier skinny.
 
KyloRen said:
It'll be high if you have zero muscle mass. That's what is keeping you from looking like the guy in the pics.

What keeps me from looking like the guy in the pics is i was born with recessed bones. I'm already pretty lean...55kg isn't heavy after all. I don't look fat in the slightest.
 
itsOVER said:
Most people couldn't get horsecel physique because getting that body is heavily dependent on genetics too.

Women wants good genes, and a body LIKE HORSECELS is an indicator of that. But some gymcel who does average lifts or injects roles to bulk up...thats not an indicator of good genes as literally anyone can bulk and roid to get big. You have to really stand out like horsecel to make it worthwhile.

Holy fuck you can't be this retarded. Surely you're trolling?

Good physique = indicator of high testosterone and good health. Do you think women's preferences changed the day the dumbbell was invented? Obviously not.

By your logic women wouldn't care about how straight a guy's teeth are because anyone can get braces. Nor would they care about blemishes since anyone can take Accutane and have perfect skin. I'm sure you'll just ignore this point since you have no way of refuting it.

Honestly dude I feel bad for you. You are the single dumbest person on this forum. You literally don't have a high-school level grasp of biology despite being an oldcel.

Here's one last piece of evidence to make you snap and go ER: http://foxhoundstudio.com/blog/fitness-lifestyle/the-ideal-male-physique-%E2%80%94-what-girls-want-want-guys-want-to-be. Scroll down to number 7. Only 1.1% of women said that body doesn't matter at all and they'd date a fat or emaciated guy. If you weren't completely full of shit that number would be close to 100%.
 
itsOVER said:
What keeps me from looking like the guy in the pics is i was born with recessed bones. I'm already pretty lean...55kg isn't heavy after all. I don't look fat in the slightest.

Come back when you look like a concentration camp survivor.
 
Framecel222 said:
Holy fuck you can't be this retarded. Surely you're trolling?

Good physique = indicator of high testosterone and good health. Do you think women's preferences changed the day the dumbbell was invented? Obviously not.

By your logic women wouldn't care about how straight a guy's teeth are because anyone can get braces. Nor would they care about blemishes since anyone can take Accutane and have perfect skin. I'm sure you'll just ignore this point since you have no way of refuting it.

Honestly dude I feel bad for you. You are the single dumbest person on this forum. You literally don't have a high-school level of grasp of biology despite being an oldcel.

Here's one last piece of evidence to make you snap and go ER: http://foxhoundstudio.com/blog/fitness-lifestyle/the-ideal-male-physique-%E2%80%94-what-girls-want-want-guys-want-to-be. Scroll down to number 7. Only 1.1% of women said that body doesn't matter at all and they'd date a fat or emaciated guy. If you weren't completely full of shit that number would be close to 100%.

That link proves gymcelling doesn't get you laid. Girls wanted the lean guy over the massive jacked guys, JFL. Read the damn study.

Teeth and skin impacts the face. Muscles don't. It's face over everything, if you've got a truly elite body like horsecel you still have hope. If not LDAR if you're not 6+ facially.
 
itsOVER said:
That link proves gymcelling doesn't get you laid. Girls wanted the lean guy over the massive jacked guys, JFL. Read the damn study.

Teeth and skin impacts the face. Muscles don't. It's face over everything, if you've got a truly elite body like horsecel you still have hope. If not LDAR if you're not 6+ facially.

But your argument for why body doesn't matter is that anyone can get a good body nowadays, therefore it doesn't matter. But the exact same principle applies to straight teeth and clear skin. You're using circular logic here.

Also LMFAOOEFOSDTOWD if you don't think Brad Pitt was gymcelled in that picture.
 
Framecel222 said:
But your argument for why body doesn't matter is that anyone can get a good body nowadays, therefore it doesn't matter. But the exact same principle applies to straight teeth and clear skin. You're using circular logic here.

Also LMFAOOEFOSDTOWD if you don't think Brad Pitt was gymcelled in that picture.

There was no picture of a guy that WASN'T gymcelled. But it's telling that the woman voted for the body that requires the least gymcelling (basically just cutting to a low bf % while lifting fairly lightly).

Teeth and skin are harder to get right than body. In the past both were all genetic and evolution doesn' change that quickly. Whereas body has always been obtainable by everyone.
 
You do you, bro. I'm just going to say this: You're going to regret it, health-wise, down the line.
 
itsOVER said:
There was no picture of a guy that WASN'T gymcelled. Bit it's telling that the woman voted for the body that requires the least gymcelling (basically just cutting to a low bf % while lifting fairly lightly).

Teeth and skin are harder to get right than body. In the past both were all genetic and evolution doesn' change that quickly. Whereas body has always been obtainable by everyone.

How has having a good body always been obtainable? Weightlifting has only become remotely commonplace in the last 50 years. Do you think people were gymcelling in 50,000 BC?

And look at #10 in the link. The gymcelled yet natty physique got 83.3% whereas the skinny nonlifter physique got 6.3%.

You literally don't have a single study or experiment suggesting that it's 100% face. All you have is your basement hypothesis (which I already debunked.)

If it's 100% face and the entire notion that women like muscles is a myth then why is it so hard for your subhuman sub-70 IQ ass to link me something that proves your argument? If someone asked me to prove that girls care about looks over personality I could link them 20 studies and 50 Tinder experiments effortlessly. Why can't you do the same for this?
 
knajjd said:
great post, working out made an already normie looking guy to look better (still incel). copy and paste some TRP field report about how holding frame got a 4'7" Indian laid next time.
Octopusgun2 said:
“I have given up, so I want to make myself feel better by dragging others into my shitty life decisions”
yeah, "shitty life decisions" such as being born ugly. just pull yourself by the bootstraps and work through it... right. if you don't want to see blackpilled truecels (aka sane ugly people that have zero chance and know it) why are you even here instead of r/theredpill??? the children on TRP are as hot on lifting as you seem to be.
goes for OP too: why are you here instead of TRP? i really haven't seen anything you've posted that led me to believe you'd find this place more relatable than TRP. proselytization? trying to "save" incels (lol self important much)? Jesus Christ.
I’m a certified subhuman so you can’t really use the fakecel counter-argument. I’m blackpilled and think that looksmaxing either by surgery or by getting lean if you’re fat is the only way out.
 
I lost a TON of weight myself, didn't do anything for me.
 
Hardly anyone has strong protruding bones at 20% bodyfat.

Of course, losing weight, and gymceling would heighten your chances. I guess its best to take that gamble asking women out with a better body than with a fat (or overly skinny) bodies.

But its usually hard for Incels not to have energy to do anything and especially if you've been defeated (or put down) many times, I guess could empathize with my fellow brocels on that.
 
This thread is just fucking TRP cancer.
Go fuck off to your gyms and stop advertising your bullshit lifestyle here.
 
idkwattodowithlife said:
Hardly anyone has strong protruding bones at 20% bodyfat.

Of course, losing weight, and gymceling would heighten your chances. I guess its best to take that gamble asking women out with a better body than with a fat (or overly skinny) bodies.

But its usually hard for Incels not to have energy to do anything and especially if you've been defeated (or put down) many times, I guess could empathize with my fellow brocels on that.

People who have seen me have always commented on my bones. My bones did not protrude at above 20% body fat. Now that I lost the weight and gotten myself to around 15%, finally they do and my cheeks are hollow. Leanness is extremely important for facial aesthetics, I look so much better than I did in bulk mode. It's night and day.

This cope that Chad has amazing bones at 30% bf is ludicrous. It's extremely rare and requires the Chad to have amazing fat storing genetics (basically store very little facial fat).
 
So if it's so great, why are you still here?
 
low tier normie. nowhere near a chad lol.
 
Framecel222 said:
The copers are already out in full force!

I honestly just feel bad for the coping lazycels. I just hit the gym and PR'd on every exercise. Getting insane dopamine releases right now. Meanwhile people like itsOVER are rotting at their computer as their muscles atrophy and spiders spin cobwebs on their long-forgotten dopamine receptors.


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Forget it OP, I admire what you're trying to do but there is absolutely no hope for these people. Let them die.
Average guys are getting laid but not for free! They are paying to try and impress what chad is getting at the swipe of a finger
 
NeverSubmit said:
Average guys are getting laid but not for free! They are paying to try and impress what chad is getting at the swipe of a finger

Oh wow, Normans are such beta cucks! They pay for a couple meals and get a GF and a possible wife. JFL at those nu male faggots!
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heroinfather said:
NeverSubmit said:
Average guys are getting laid but not for free! They are paying to try and impress what chad is getting at the swipe of a finger
Oh wow, Normans are such beta cucks! They pay for a couple meals and get a GF and a possible wife. JFL at those nu male faggots!
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Fact : Normies will never have a femoid fantasize about them while masturbating and they’ll never have a femoid being sexually attracted to them. They’re seen as walking wallets, nothing more than that.
 
Octopusgun2 said:
Fact : Normies will never have a femoid fantasize about them while masturbating and they’ll never have a femoid being sexually attracted to them. They’re seen as walking wallets, nothing more than that.

Well the fat landwhales won't get Chad so they fantasize about having him. They realize that they can't get Chad so they hope to get lucky with a -lite or a settle for a normie.
 
Vision said:
This guy has good bone structure, that’s why. I’m quite lean at the moment, 6 abs and everything. It’s all about your bone structure. My jaw is narrow as fuck and my cheekbones are flat and recessed, I look fucked.

You don’t need a guide to get lean. All I did was go on a calorie deficit.

An Indian with flat cheekbones? The one good feature our people have and you lack it. That’s rough...
 
mangoboy said:
An Indian with flat cheekbones? The one good feature our people have and you lack it. That’s rough...

I’m not Indian, I’m Bangladeshi. But yeah, my cheekbones are fucking tiny.
 
CopingGymcel said:
People who have seen me have always commented on my bones. My bones did not protrude at above 20% body fat. Now that I lost the weight and gotten myself to around 15%, finally they do and my cheeks are hollow. Leanness is extremely important for facial aesthetics, I look so much better than I did in bulk mode. It's night and day.

This cope that Chad has amazing bones at 30% bf is ludicrous. It's extremely rare and requires the Chad to have amazing fat storing genetics (basically store very little facial fat).

It’s true. I went above 20% body fat and I look like a fucking chipmunk now. Half of the deluded morons on here could easily be attractive if they just lost weight.


Vision said:
I’m not Indian, I’m Bangladeshi. But yeah, my cheekbones are fucking tiny.

Bangladeshis are Indians pretty much, they look no different. The only ones in the subcontinent who look notably distinct are Pakis and Nepalis.
 
itsOVER said:
Subhuman upper eyelid exposure.

I'm sure that kills any chances of him getting pussy... Kek
 
Framecel222 said:
How has having a good body always been obtainable? Weightlifting has only become remotely commonplace in the last 50 years. Do you think people were gymcelling in 50,000 BC?

And look at #10 in the link. The gymcelled yet natty physique got 83.3% whereas the skinny nonlifter physique got 6.3%.

You literally don't have a single study or experiment suggesting that it's 100% face. All you have is your basement hypothesis (which I already debunked.)

If it's 100% face and the entire notion that women like muscles is a myth then why is it so hard for your subhuman sub-70 IQ ass to link me something that proves your argument? If someone asked me to prove that girls care about looks over personality I could link them 20 studies and 50 Tinder experiments effortlessly. Why can't you do the same for this?

In ancient times people were a lot more active - we had to hunt for our food, build our own settlements, wage war against other tribes etc. I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that a 'gymcelled' body wasn't particularly uncommon then - in fact it'd just be expected of a human being who wished to survive in those times. Everyone did it, just like everyone can do it today. Whereas your face is god given and can't really be changed much.

Go read the misc and see how many of them lament that their ripped physiques only get compliments from other guys if you want evidence.
 

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