It's Over We will never experience beauty

[NYCcel]

We can easily fantasize about being with our looksmatch or lower to experience companionship, sex, "love", etc. But we can never truly fantasize about beauty. It is a huge part of the human condition and that's why the great artists and philosophers spent their lives trying to capture its meaning. There is no reason to aspire for greatness when all the women around me are fatter, ruder, dumber, uglier than me. Of course I would love to have an average looking girlfriend. It is brutal that not only will I never have a girlfriend but I also will also never be able to experience beauty.
This isn't a water is wet post but it's similar to the missing out on teen love phenomenon.

 

[epillepsy]

can you elaborate please
what do you mean by "beauty" and why can't we experience it?

 

[NYCcel]

can you elaborate please
what do you mean by "beauty" and why can't we experience it?

The best we can hope for is to moneymaxx and be with a post-wall woman or a decaying escort
I see bizzare couples everyday. Model looking woman with a fat ugly thugs. Clean cut guys with super short ugly noodlewhores
statusmaxx+moneymaxx seems like the only way for a incel to ascend and experience beauty
Otherwise what is the point of all the work

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Cope, there's still beauty in nature and the mind.

 

[epillepsy]

The best we can hope for is to moneymaxx and be with a post-wall woman or a decaying escort
I see bizzare couples everyday. Model looking woman with a fat ugly thugs. Clean cut guys with super short ugly noodlewhores
statusmaxx+moneymaxx seems like the only way for a incel to ascend and experience beauty
Otherwise what is the point of all the work

but what does that have to do with beauty.
are you talking about "beauty" of women?
that's not even real beauty, it's just sexual attraction to something that is very ugly and badly put together in reality.
beauty is like when you see a young attractive person die violently in front of you or read or see a great piece of art or see the scary vastness of nature.
it's not necessarily a good thing and fills you with anxiety and has a chilling effect.
like the stendahl effect or how mishima describes it.

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

Only hearts filled with vanity would be saddened by this.

 

[AbsolutelyBrutal]

Cope, there's still beauty in nature and the mind.

Nature is beautiful. I cope by wanting to moneymaxx and visit wonders of the world and pretty places tbh

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

Cope, there's still beauty in nature and the mind.

Apparently beauty is only present when there's a wet hole involved. Cucked thread.

 

[NYCcel]

Apparently beauty is only present when there's a wet hole involved. Cucked thread.

Excuse me, are you a fag?

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

Cope, there's still beauty in nature and the mind.

I would prefer a nice hard body GF thank you.

 

[Deleted member 27768]

Cope, there's still beauty in nature and the mind.

Foid tier cope tbh.

I would prefer a nice hard body GF thank you.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

Apparently beauty is only present when there's a wet hole involved. Cucked thread.

High IQ theory. We really need more gorilla cels for their insight is extremely enlightneing.

 

[Deleted member 32725]

You ever been to an art museum bro? That stuff's (mostly) A M A Z I N G

 

[Deleted member 27768]

High IQ theory. We really need more gorilla cels for their insight is extremely enlightneing.

More like High cope theory.

 

[NYCcel]

but what does that have to do with beauty.
are you talking about "beauty" of women?
that's not even real beauty, it's just sexual attraction to something that is very ugly and badly put together in reality.
beauty is like when you see a young attractive person die violently in front of you or read or see a great piece of art or see the scary vastness of nature.
it's not necessarily a good thing and fills you with anxiety and has a chilling effect.
like the stendahl effect or how mishima describes it.

"beauty is like when you see a young attractive person die violently in front of you"
WTF ??

"it's just sexual attraction to something that is very ugly and badly put together in reality."
I'm only a human man. How much cope do I need to externalize from being human
So you don't see a 10/10 and think that is beautiful and get kind off nervous? That would be a stendahl syndrome. I think that's good. It means you are human. Simping is a totally different matter.

Mishima was very fucked up. Have you ever red Confessions of a Mask?

 

[Deleted member 33216]

Excuse me, are you a fag?

So beauty is entirely tied to holes?

You ever been to an art museum bro? That stuff's (mostly) A M A Z I N G

Apparently he hasn't since he thinks beauty can only occur in foids.

 

[epillepsy]

"beauty is like when you see a young attractive person die violently in front of you"
WTF ??

the reminder of death and the fragility of human flesh and something attractive being destroyed. it creates a chilling and paralyzing effect which is what beauty is. that's kind of a simplified way to put it.

"it's just sexual attraction to something that is very ugly and badly put together in reality."
I'm only a human man. How much cope do I need to externalize from being human

just wanted clarification on what you meant. i thought you meant beauty like how i understood it so i was interested to have this conversation. but you just meant getting boners to foids.

So you don't see a 10/10 and think that is beautiful and get kind off nervous? That would be a stendahl syndrome. I think that's good. It means you are human. Simping is a totally different matter.

yeah, okay. the title of this post seems to be talking about something different.
you can still experience beauty by your logic since you can look at pictures of hot foids.

Mishima was very fucked up. Have you ever red Confessions of a Mask?

I've read all his works that were translated into English multiples times.
he is my hero and the greatest man who ever lived.
you can call him a fag if you want, but everyone has their flaws.

 

[NYCcel]

You ever been to an art museum bro? That stuff's (mostly) A M A Z I N G

LOL yesterday I went to the New Museum. It was filled with BLM junk. The great artists worshipped the human form.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

More like High cope theory.

feelshmm

 

[Deleted member 32725]

LOL yesterday I went to the New Museum. It was filled with BLM junk. The great artists worshipped the human form.

You have to avoid anything ruined by faggots. The trick is this:
>If it was made over 100 years ago by old white guys it probably SLAPS.
>If not, ignore it.

 

[NYCcel]

So beauty is entirely tied to holes?

Apparently he hasn't since he thinks beauty can only occur in foids.

When did I ever say that?

naturecope.is

 

[Deleted member 33216]

When did I ever say that?

naturecope.is

Well, you attacked the two people who pointed this out.

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

Excuse me, are you a fag?

Excuse me, but are you a retard?

 

[NYCcel]

the reminder of death and the fragility of human flesh and something attractive being destroyed. it creates a chilling and paralyzing effect which is what beauty is. that's kind of a simplified way to put it.


just wanted clarification on what you meant. i thought you meant beauty like how i understood it so i was interested to have this conversation. but you just meant getting boners to foids.


yeah, okay. the title of this post seems to be talking about something different.
you can still experience beauty by your logic since you can look at pictures of hot foids.


I've read all his works that were translated into English multiples times.
he is my hero and the greatest man who ever lived.
you can call him a fag if you want, but everyone has their flaws.

It's totally different to look at a painting of a beautiful woman versus to be her boyfriend. Looking at a photo is not experiencing anything.
I am not complaining about sex like I said in the first post. Its something else that I am struggling to explain and understand myself.

 

[ThoughtfulCel]

Well, you attacked the two people who pointed this out.

Many greycels do this, mainly to try and fit in. They think that throwing around "cope" and acting overly aggressive is the way to integrate into the community. In reality it just ends up making them look like retards

 

[epillepsy]

It's totally different to look at a painting of a beautiful woman versus to be her boyfriend. Looking at a photo is not experiencing anything.
I am not complaining about sex like I said in the first post. Its something else that I am struggling to explain and understand myself.

sometimes when i make a thread (or post) i leave out critical parts of the argument because i know i can answer them in replies later from users who ask questions or have a differing view.
it's a way to weaken the initial statement to make conversation more possible. i don't want to address everything in the original post because that leaves no room for discussion.
that's what i thought you were doing.
if you just can't explain it, then there's nowhere to go with this.

 

[NorthernWind]

OP, you still can get a beautiful woman. Just capture her.

 

[epillepsy]

Excuse me, but are you a retard?

honestly it's more faggish to equate beauty with feminine things and not in beauty that has masculine power.

 

[Deleted member 32725]

honestly it's more faggish to equate beauty with feminine things and not exult in beauty that has masculine power.

Example:
Michaelangelo's David
That's objectively beautiful

 

[epillepsy]

Example:
Michaelangelo's David
That's objectively beautiful

yes, and to see even an ideal masculine form destroyed and torn up by violence is also a form of beauty OP can't see.
not everything must be sexual; if you think this way, you denigrate male friendship and start getting into cannibalism and scat fetishes since you associate eating and excreta with sex. it's a degenerate way of thinking to overfocus on everything being gay and homosexual since it blocks your mind from appreciating the virtues of the stronger gender. this will sound gay to soys and retards but only b/c they are sex-obsessed like the (((media))) wants them to be and they are buying into propaganda.

as well as beauty in poetry and literature, which can't be said to be sexual.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Nature is beautiful. I cope by wanting to moneymaxx and visit wonders of the world and pretty places tbh

I want to do that as well tbh ngl.

Apparently beauty is only present when there's a wet hole involved. Cucked thread.

I would prefer a nice hard body GF thank you.

he was talking about beauty, not where you want to stick your dick.

Foid tier cope tbh.

Foids cope with boob jobs, makeup, and settling down with beta buck billy.

Excuse me, but are you a retard?

Many greycels do this, mainly to try and fit in. They think that throwing around "cope" and acting overly aggressive is the way to integrate into the community. In reality it just ends up making them look like retards

based and sociological phenomena pilled

OP, you still can get a beautiful woman. Just capture her.

 

[Deleted member 32725]

yes, and to see even an ideal masculine form destroyed and torn up by violence is also a form of beauty OP can't see.
not everything must be sexual; if you think this way, you denigrate male friendship and start getting into cannibalism and scat fetishes since you associate eating and excreta with sex. it's a degenerate way of thinking to overfocus on everything being gay and homosexual since it blocks your mind from appreciating the virtues of the stronger gender. this will sound gay to soys and retards but only b/c they are sex-obsessed like the (((media))) wants them to be and they are buying into propaganda.

as well as beauty in poetry and literature, which can't be said to be sexual.

There is a lot of beauty in the world, like you said. A lot of incels probably just get too bitter to see it--which is understandable but tragic.

 

[epillepsy]

There is a lot of beauty in the world, like you said. A lot of incels probably just get too bitter to see it--which is understandable but tragic.

i think it comes from retardessness and not reading enough.
plus they are overly concerned with not being gay but makes them more "gay" in a way since it relegates beauty and goodness to only things that are feminine and weak and give them erections.

 

[Deleted member 32725]

i think it comes from retardessness and not reading enough.
plus they are overly concerned with not being gay but makes them more "gay" in a way since it relegates beauty and goodness to only things that are feminine and weak and give them erections.

That too. You have to enrich yourself, especially when you're an outcast. It makes life less hellish.

 

[epillepsy]

That too. You have to enrich yourself, especially when you're an outcast. It makes life less hellish.

i can't believe OP read "confessions of a mask" and all he got from it was "mishima is fucked up."
so the joke is that he reads great books except he understands them like a foid would.
the moral bile rises up in his gorge and he becomes blind to a work's virtues because he doesn't like gayness or something.
i think it was a good thing for his writing that mishima found women ugly and evil, but idiots focus too much on his so-called homosexuality which i doubt tbh.

 

[Deleted member 32725]

i can't believe OP read "confessions of a mask" and all he got from it was "mishima is fucked up."
so the joke is that he reads great books except he understands them like a foid would.
the moral bile rises up in his gorge and he becomes blind to a work's virtues because he doesn't like gayness or something.
i think it was a good thing for his writing that mishima found women ugly and evil, but idiots focus too much on his so-called homosexuality which i doubt tbh.

I haven't read it, but it sounds interesting. A danger for incels as a whole is letting our experience warp our view of not only the reality around us, but the truths in art and literature, etc.

 

[epillepsy]

I haven't read it, but it sounds interesting. A danger for incels as a whole is letting our experience warp our view of not only the reality around us, but the truths in art and literature, etc.

one of the reasons this recent censorship bs is so odious is b/c if they burn books, they suppress truth, one of which is that foids are extremely evil.
i can't believe we've come to this point, i never could have imagined it.

 

[Deleted member 32725]

one of the reasons this recent censorship bs is so odious is b/c if they burn books, they suppress truth, one of which is that foids are extremely evil.
i can't believe we've come to this point, i never could have imagined it.

We got here, and now we have to figure out (((who))) might be responsible.

 

[epillepsy]

We got here, and now we have to figure out (((who))) might be responsible.

who could it be, idk

 

[Deleted member 32725]

who could it be, idk

It's a mystery

 

[NYCcel]

sometimes when i make a thread (or post) i leave out critical parts of the argument because i know i can answer them in replies later from users who ask questions or have a differing view.
it's a way to weaken the initial statement to make conversation more possible. i don't want to address everything in the original post because that leaves no room for discussion.
that's what i thought you were doing.
if you just can't explain it, then there's nowhere to go with this.

Poor presentation on my part.

Do you agree that to truly understand a concept you have to have some background in it?
If so, then do you agree that to truly understand the beauty described in art or literature you should have experienced it? My understanding of Mishima is shallow. My understanding of everything describing female love, beauty, friendship is shallow.

I can play several instruments. Thus I can understand music and appreciate music more deeply because of this background in music and music theory. Similarly, I struggle to genuinely understand human beauty because I haven't experienced it in the mirror or in person.

 

[BubbleBoy]

It’s pure suifuel, never getting to get naked with a girl and enjoy all the things those bastard chads get without even trying.

 

[NYCcel]

yes, and to see even an ideal masculine form destroyed and torn up by violence is also a form of beauty OP can't see.
not everything must be sexual; if you think this way, you denigrate male friendship and start getting into cannibalism and scat fetishes since you associate eating and excreta with sex. it's a degenerate way of thinking to overfocus on everything being gay and homosexual since it blocks your mind from appreciating the virtues of the stronger gender. this will sound gay to soys and retards but only b/c they are sex-obsessed like the (((media))) wants them to be and they are buying into propaganda.

as well as beauty in poetry and literature, which can't be said to be sexual.

My point is not about sex. You can have sex with any hole. But to experience a beutiful person being in love with you is very unique and it is part of what makes art so powerful.
If you have never experienced X then how can you understand it when it is described. It will simply be a phenomenon.

If you agree that X can be love, teen love, sex, genuine friendship, then why not beauty?

That too. You have to enrich yourself, especially when you're an outcast. It makes life less hellish.

I tried to enrich myself but the level of understanding will always be shallow as I have never experienced the themes that the artist is building on or his expierences.

 

[Emba]

Cope, there's still beauty in nature and the mind.

Dude lives in new York city bro.

Ain't nothing natural THERE.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Dude lives in new York city bro.

Ain't nothing natural THERE.

Over for urbancels

 

[Meus]

There is no reason to aspire for greatness when all the women around me are fatter, ruder, dumber, uglier than me. Of course I would love to have an average looking girlfriend. It is brutal that not only will I never have a girlfriend but I also will also never be able to experience beauty.
This isn't a water is wet post but it's similar to the missing out on teen love phenomenon.

This so much.

 

[dirtykombatcel]

Apparently beauty is only present when there's a wet hole involved. Cucked thread.

Maybe he was talking about being sad bc he won't get to fuck a beautiful woman? That's the only way I can make sense of this post.

 

[Emba]

Over for urbancels

In so very many ways

 

[SoloAlex]

still beauty in nature

Nature is beautiful

The nature, especially animals, are even more black pilled than humans. The nature is literally „the winner takes it all“. If we would be born as Incel animals most of us would be probably already dead because of starvation. If there is not enough food for everybody, the animal chad will take everything and the Incel animals die.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

The nature, especially animals, are even more black pilled than humans. The nature is literally „the winner takes it all“. If we would be born as Incel animals most of us would be probably already dead because of starvation. If there is not enough food for everybody, the animal chad will take everything and the Incel animals die.

Animals don't lie about looks not mattering, or pretending they care about personality and other shit.
Also, not all incels are weak, I could probably beat the shit out of 99% of all Chads (in modern warfare 2).

Nature outside of animals (except bacteria and shit) can have lots of beauty in it, so it's still a good cope.