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Based Vril Gesellschaft and German Mysticism

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The Vril motto “Not all good comes from above” summarizes the entire history of the Vril Gesellschaft (Society) from its inception to the final days of WW2 when this occult group seemed to vanish right off the face of the earth. The name Vril is the shortening of “VRI-IL” which means “Like God”. Officially Vril was “The All German Society for Metaphysics” which merged with the Thule Gesellschaft and the obscure DHvSS (Men of the Black Stone) in the year 1919.

Each occult group had its own distinct beliefs and origins.

The DHvSS (1912) worshipped the German mountain goddess Isias and the Schwarz Stein (black stone). The Thule Gesellschaft (1917) believed in the hollow earth theory and derived its name from Ultima Thule the ancient capital of Hyperborea at the top of the world. Vril worshipped the Black Sun (the invisible inner light of the Godhead) which supposedly gave or generated incredible power and communicated with Aryan aliens living in the Aldebaran system through psychic channelling. Aldebaran, a giant red star, is part of the Taurus Constellation and is known as the “Bull’s Eye” due to its position in the heavens. As the “Star of Illumination” it is also known as the “Way” of spiritual enlightenment which the mediums of Vril desperately sought.

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With the Nazi Party in power in 1933 (which itself originated from the Thule Gesellschaft) the occultists now received official backing for their continued development of the flight discs. Thule and Vril started with the RFZ (RundFlugZeug, or Round Aircraft series from 1937-41. As war had started in 1939 the RFZ-5 became the Haunebu 1 and by 1941 the RFZ-7 had become the Vril 1 Jäger (Hunter). The reason for the changes were due to Thule’s revolutionary Triebwerk (Thrustwork) engine that used rotating electro-magnetic-gravitic fields to affect gravity. Vril had by 1941 perfected the SM-Levitator as well and thus two new series entered limited construction, but with slightly different goals.

Thule wanted to develop both a production combat craft and a functional Raumschiff (Spaceship). Vril, by comparison, only wanted to develop Raumschiffe to reach Aldebaran in the Taurus Constellation 64 light years from earth. As Hitler had forbid secret societies in Germany from 1941 forward, both Thule and Vril were documented under the SS Technical Branch Unit E-IV (Entwicklungsstelle 4) tasked with developing alternative energies. This unit had already helped with the RFZ series but now “officially” Thule and Vril did not exist. Vril became known secretly as “Die Kette” to both their Abwehr and Ahnenerbe (Ancestral Heritage Research Department, a.k.a. Nazi Occult Bureau) connections. Illustration of Vril “Z-Plan” of future return to earth in the early 21st century


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“Die Kette” translates into “The Chain” which referred to the mental “circular link” of the Vril Chefin (Boss). For identification, Vril members wore a Doppelsignet disc that represented the two mediums Maria Orsic and Sigrun. Vril can also be recognized by the Canaris Abwehr late war “Black Sun” Adler holding the black sun wheel (instead of the Hakenkreuz circle) which sits on a chain underneath it. This late war symbol represented a secret Z-Plan (Z meaning Zukunft, or Future) devised by Canaris and the Vril

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The “Future Plan” was for the Third Reich to survive outside of Europe and re-emerge in the far future from either another location on earth or from the stars if a Raumschiff could be constructed in time before the collapse. The first purely Vril disc - the Vril 1 Jäger (Hunter) was constructed in 1941 and first flew in 1942. It was 11.5 meters in diameter, had a single pilot, and could achieve 2,900 km/h - 12,000 km/h! It flew with a metal dome at first but subsequent test versions had a heavily reinforced glass dome and could seat two crew. Flight endurance was 5.5 hrs. It was planned to arm this craft with two MK-108 cannon plus 2 MG-17 machineguns. Seventeen of these craft were constructed and tested between 1942-44 with 84 test flight.

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The Vril 2 Zerstörer (Destroyer) was a highly advanced oval shaped disc that was much too complex for the time period; thus it was projected for 1945/46, so no construction was started. The Vril 3 and 4 have been photographed but no surviving information is found on them. Vrils 5 and 6 likewise do not show up and may have only been projects. The Vril 7 and 8, however, were constructed. The Vril 7 Geist (Ghost) was 45 meters in diameter and crewed by fourteen men. It was built in 1944 and tested at Arado-Brandenburg using Vril‘s own Triebwerk. Like the Vril 1 the Vril 7 Geist was designed for channeled flight. One machine was sent through from Arado but returned seriously damaged beyond repair. It is not know if the craft was manned or not but the Victalen hull was severely warped and the drive disabled. Vril’s medium Sigrun made frequent trips to the facility to oversee construction and testing. In 1944, Arado engineers approached her with a request. They wanted to know if the Vril Triebwerk could be adapted to one of their projects - the Arado E.555 strategic bomber. They were abruptly told, “No” and returned to their designs which resulted in eleven different versions of the bomber. Sigrun was actually insulted because the entire purpose of the Vril discs was aimed at space flight.


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No conventional bomber could withstand the heat of the velocity achieved by these machines which were constructed of hulls specially made of an advanced metal called Viktalen (in some sources Victalen or Viktalon). The Vril 1 had a single hull of this type, the Vril 7 two. The large Haunbeu III had three! Besides, Vril could not afford to waste any valuable time diverted to strategic bomber projects aimed at attacking America or the Soviet Union. Such ventures were futile despite the 1945 resurrection of the Sänger hypersonic bomber project and the RLM ordered construction of a Horten XVIII flying wing bomber!

With the SS supervising all aspects of the disc programs every model had to have at least theoretical provision for armament. In the Vril 7 Geist it would have been four MK-108 cannon. The Vril 8 Odin was the last official Vril disc that was flight tested in the spring of 1945 during the collapse. This disc had an automatic Oberon upward-firing gun installation on top of the control center. Some weeks after Germany surrendered. however, both Haunebu and Vril craft were spotted in the skies over occupied Germany. Although the Vril 9 Abjäger (Universal Hunter) was shown only as a design on paper, a craft identical to it was photographed postwar, and there are claims of a spacecraft Vril 10. Much documentation and original design work performed by Vril was deliberately destroyed prior to departure from Germany. Both a Vril 10 Fledermaus (Bat) design and a planned Vril 11 were among the incomplete material recovered by the Allies in 1945 (much of it rescued from flames).

 
Interesting but how come they never developed a 4 engine heavy bomber?
 
Interesting but how come they never developed a 4 engine heavy bomber?
They actually created a 4 engine tactical bomber called the Arado-234 C-3 which was utilised at the end of the war, In regards to cross-atlantic range strategic bombers they were never officially documented as being used by the Luftwaffe or Vril Society however I am inclined to believe a small number of them were produced and tested by said organisations.
 
I don't think Vril means that at all. It comes from a 19th century English science fiction book.
 
I don't think Vril means that at all. It comes from a 19th century English science fiction book.
You are referring to the Vril power of the coming race. That is indeed a book but there is double meaning.
 
You are referring to the Vril power of the coming race. That is indeed a book but there is double meaning.
Yeah, it's a play on virile.
 
I don't think Vril means that at all. It comes from a 19th century English science fiction book.
I think it means a mysterious energy source
 
They actually created a 4 engine tactical bomber called the Arado-234 C-3 which was utilised at the end of the war, In regards to cross-atlantic range strategic bombers they were never officially documented as being used by the Luftwaffe or Vril Society however I am inclined to believe a small number of them were produced and tested by said organisations.
I hadn't read about the Arado 234, thanks.

What I was thinking was why Germans didn't build planes like the British Avro Lancaster of which around 7,500 were built. These were big heavy lift 4 engine planes. Did the Germans not think bombers would be any use against the Russian industrial complex? Any thoughts?

I used to like reading war history especially the battles on the eastern front. I read somewhere that 90% of the Nazi state war effort in WW2 was directed towards the Eastern front. If that's true or not who knows but from what I've read there seems to be a major battle almost everyday on the Eastern front.
 
The Vril motto “Not all good comes from above” summarizes the entire history of the Vril Gesellschaft (Society) from its inception to the final days of WW2 when this occult group seemed to vanish right off the face of the earth. The name Vril is the shortening of “VRI-IL” which means “Like God”. Officially Vril was “The All German Society for Metaphysics” which merged with the Thule Gesellschaft and the obscure DHvSS (Men of the Black Stone) in the year 1919.

Each occult group had its own distinct beliefs and origins.

The DHvSS (1912) worshipped the German mountain goddess Isias and the Schwarz Stein (black stone). The Thule Gesellschaft (1917) believed in the hollow earth theory and derived its name from Ultima Thule the ancient capital of Hyperborea at the top of the world. Vril worshipped the Black Sun (the invisible inner light of the Godhead) which supposedly gave or generated incredible power and communicated with Aryan aliens living in the Aldebaran system through psychic channelling. Aldebaran, a giant red star, is part of the Taurus Constellation and is known as the “Bull’s Eye” due to its position in the heavens. As the “Star of Illumination” it is also known as the “Way” of spiritual enlightenment which the mediums of Vril desperately sought.

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With the Nazi Party in power in 1933 (which itself originated from the Thule Gesellschaft) the occultists now received official backing for their continued development of the flight discs. Thule and Vril started with the RFZ (RundFlugZeug, or Round Aircraft series from 1937-41. As war had started in 1939 the RFZ-5 became the Haunebu 1 and by 1941 the RFZ-7 had become the Vril 1 Jäger (Hunter). The reason for the changes were due to Thule’s revolutionary Triebwerk (Thrustwork) engine that used rotating electro-magnetic-gravitic fields to affect gravity. Vril had by 1941 perfected the SM-Levitator as well and thus two new series entered limited construction, but with slightly different goals.

Thule wanted to develop both a production combat craft and a functional Raumschiff (Spaceship). Vril, by comparison, only wanted to develop Raumschiffe to reach Aldebaran in the Taurus Constellation 64 light years from earth. As Hitler had forbid secret societies in Germany from 1941 forward, both Thule and Vril were documented under the SS Technical Branch Unit E-IV (Entwicklungsstelle 4) tasked with developing alternative energies. This unit had already helped with the RFZ series but now “officially” Thule and Vril did not exist. Vril became known secretly as “Die Kette” to both their Abwehr and Ahnenerbe (Ancestral Heritage Research Department, a.k.a. Nazi Occult Bureau) connections. Illustration of Vril “Z-Plan” of future return to earth in the early 21st century


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“Die Kette” translates into “The Chain” which referred to the mental “circular link” of the Vril Chefin (Boss). For identification, Vril members wore a Doppelsignet disc that represented the two mediums Maria Orsic and Sigrun. Vril can also be recognized by the Canaris Abwehr late war “Black Sun” Adler holding the black sun wheel (instead of the Hakenkreuz circle) which sits on a chain underneath it. This late war symbol represented a secret Z-Plan (Z meaning Zukunft, or Future) devised by Canaris and the Vril

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The “Future Plan” was for the Third Reich to survive outside of Europe and re-emerge in the far future from either another location on earth or from the stars if a Raumschiff could be constructed in time before the collapse. The first purely Vril disc - the Vril 1 Jäger (Hunter) was constructed in 1941 and first flew in 1942. It was 11.5 meters in diameter, had a single pilot, and could achieve 2,900 km/h - 12,000 km/h! It flew with a metal dome at first but subsequent test versions had a heavily reinforced glass dome and could seat two crew. Flight endurance was 5.5 hrs. It was planned to arm this craft with two MK-108 cannon plus 2 MG-17 machineguns. Seventeen of these craft were constructed and tested between 1942-44 with 84 test flight.

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The Vril 2 Zerstörer (Destroyer) was a highly advanced oval shaped disc that was much too complex for the time period; thus it was projected for 1945/46, so no construction was started. The Vril 3 and 4 have been photographed but no surviving information is found on them. Vrils 5 and 6 likewise do not show up and may have only been projects. The Vril 7 and 8, however, were constructed. The Vril 7 Geist (Ghost) was 45 meters in diameter and crewed by fourteen men. It was built in 1944 and tested at Arado-Brandenburg using Vril‘s own Triebwerk. Like the Vril 1 the Vril 7 Geist was designed for channeled flight. One machine was sent through from Arado but returned seriously damaged beyond repair. It is not know if the craft was manned or not but the Victalen hull was severely warped and the drive disabled. Vril’s medium Sigrun made frequent trips to the facility to oversee construction and testing. In 1944, Arado engineers approached her with a request. They wanted to know if the Vril Triebwerk could be adapted to one of their projects - the Arado E.555 strategic bomber. They were abruptly told, “No” and returned to their designs which resulted in eleven different versions of the bomber. Sigrun was actually insulted because the entire purpose of the Vril discs was aimed at space flight.


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No conventional bomber could withstand the heat of the velocity achieved by these machines which were constructed of hulls specially made of an advanced metal called Viktalen (in some sources Victalen or Viktalon). The Vril 1 had a single hull of this type, the Vril 7 two. The large Haunbeu III had three! Besides, Vril could not afford to waste any valuable time diverted to strategic bomber projects aimed at attacking America or the Soviet Union. Such ventures were futile despite the 1945 resurrection of the Sänger hypersonic bomber project and the RLM ordered construction of a Horten XVIII flying wing bomber!

With the SS supervising all aspects of the disc programs every model had to have at least theoretical provision for armament. In the Vril 7 Geist it would have been four MK-108 cannon. The Vril 8 Odin was the last official Vril disc that was flight tested in the spring of 1945 during the collapse. This disc had an automatic Oberon upward-firing gun installation on top of the control center. Some weeks after Germany surrendered. however, both Haunebu and Vril craft were spotted in the skies over occupied Germany. Although the Vril 9 Abjäger (Universal Hunter) was shown only as a design on paper, a craft identical to it was photographed postwar, and there are claims of a spacecraft Vril 10. Much documentation and original design work performed by Vril was deliberately destroyed prior to departure from Germany. Both a Vril 10 Fledermaus (Bat) design and a planned Vril 11 were among the incomplete material recovered by the Allies in 1945 (much of it rescued from flames).

Where do you get all this information, /x/? Whats the main repository for info like this. Is there like a schizo wiki?
 
Where do you get all this information, /x/? Whats the main repository for info like this. Is there like a schizo wiki?
I gather information from various sources, I read a lot of books as well
 
It’s probably true.
 

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