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Not as much as rest of the placesAfrican environment also selected for IQ
Not as much as rest of the placesAfrican environment also selected for IQ
It's not good when you start off with an absolute lie.I will not be biased when discussing this controversial topic. I will consider arguments from both sides.
I understand that some scientists believe that IQ has a racial component. However, there are other scientists who disagree. This means that you can't pick a side because both have valid points, right?We've already had two threads about this and you've been presented ample information, especially the material from Richard Haier, yet you've waved everything off because it doesn't fit your worldview.
WTF man? Use the site's search function on your own fucking posts.I want to see the specific link you gave me awhile ago but you won't give it to me now. Nvm.
Anyways, genetics and environmental factors are both important for IQ. So far, one doesn't overpower the other.
I dont remember the name of the thread.WTF man? Use the site's search function on your own fucking posts.
There is no side that is right. You're supposed to look at data. Evidence is ideology-agnostic. The fact that you even used that phrase is telling.Which side is right?
Okay, we now we agree that their no right side. Despite that, I still believe that IQ is not determined by race because socioeconomic factors explain why groups of people are more developed than others. And It's impossible for IQs to be accurate when they don't take external factors into account. So far, we know that Genes for higher intelligence are not more common in Europeans than Africans. In reality, genes for higher intelligence are universal among all humans regardless of geographyThere is no side that is right. You're supposed to look at data. Evidence is ideology-agnostic. The fact that you even used that phrase is telling.
Fucking hell.
There isn't a legitimate study that proves genes for Intelligence were prioritized more in Europe than in Africa. Without a credible source, this is an opinion or an unsupported theory.Not as much as rest of the places
You can see it with your eyes...There isn't a legitimate study that proves genes for Intelligence were prioritized more in Europe than in Africa. Without a credible source, this is an opinion.
You are obviously ignoring external factors. You are not using science to support your arguments, you are just saying things that you think are correct. "You can see it with your own eyes" is a very weak rebuttalYou can see it with your eyes...
Socioeconomic factors play a massive role. But still, there is a massive genetic component. Most blacks would be way lower IQ than most whites even under identical conditionsYou are downplaying the importance of socioeconomic factors. IQ doesn't boil down to genetics.
Studies show that one doesn't overpower the other. Both are important. Unless you have evidence of an experiment where both whites and blacks have equal conditions, then it's just your personal opinion.Socioeconomic factors play a massive role. But still, there is a massive genetic component. Most blacks would be way lower IQ than most whites even under identical conditions
It is just my personal opinion, but it’s based off of many observationsStudies show that one doesn't overpower the other. Both are important. Unless you have evidence of an experiment where both whites and blacks have equal conditions, then it's just your personal opinion.
Observations can be misleading.It is just my personal opinion, but it’s based off of many observations
Observations are one of the best way to observe facts. I observed that one of my engines was spitting air and fuel out of the carburetor and running like shit, so I took this observation and decided that it had an intake valve issue. Took it apart and this was exactly the case. Fixed it and now it runs well.Observations can be misleading.
I'm critical of blacks for their degenerate culture and you say that I am sucking BBC? What an ignorant commentKekfuel thread. I can see the BBC hanging from OP's mouth
In this case, you are seeing blacks fail in school and commit crimes, instead of figuring out what conditions have caused this problem, you automatically assume it's because of inherent IQ. Sometimes, you have to dig deep in order to find the culprit. This is not what you are doingObservations are one of the best way to observe facts. I observed that one of my engines was spitting air and fuel out of the carburetor and running like shit, so I took this observation and decided that it had an intake valve issue. Took it apart and this was exactly the case. Fixed it and now it runs well.
Much of the time, what you see is a good representation of reality
I wish i can agree with u boyo but evidence is white men running the world now, i dont look at coping research but how reality in history play out. Theres too much we dont understand about our brain to form any real conclusions from research so id rather believe in history instead. U free to believe wutever theory tho i dont view it as stupidIt's funny how you say "can your be serious for one second" instead of refuting the arguments. This is why it's hard to take racial realists seriously, they tend to ignore external factors for IQ and automatically assume that genetics solely determines IQ.
dnr, poopskinI know what darkstar will do. He will disregard the environmental factors that significantly influence IQ and cite opinions that doubt the available science we have which are based on speculation. Maybe he will show SAT or IQ scores that don't take external factors into account.
That's because Europeans had plenty of advantages like being in contact with Asian civilizations and the proper resources to create new things. Colonialism had nothing to do with inherent intelligence. Look, I'm just stating simple facts. I'm not here to cope. If I believed blacks were inherently low IQ, I would come out and say but so far, the evidence for blacks being low IQ due to genetics is weak.wish i can agree with u boyo but evidence is white men running the world now,
Okdnr, poopskin
Preach to them niggas.I'm not racist. I have no hate for decent law abiding blacks. But generally speaking, blacks are less intelligent than other races. That's just an objective fact.
Blacks have achieved nothing in the fields of architecture, art, literature, science etc.
Black culture (art, music, fashion) in general is ugly, loud, primitive, undignified and graceless. See: rap, hip hop and twerking.
Many Blacks can't even articulate themselves properly in English even though it's their first language.
I can go on and on.
I'm not saying all blacks are dumb. But the vast majority of them are of below average intelligence.
This is not preaching, this is nonsensePreach to them niggas.
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They didnt have abundant amounts of coal and iron which were needed to make the industrial revolution happen. Without the industrial revolution, certain technologies wouldn't have been possible. Africa does have resources but not the specific resources that other continents had. Additionally, Africans had trains but they were built to export resources to Europe, they werent used to benefit the African people. You are obviously misinformed about this topic.africa lacked resources" nigga africa has the most untapped resources out of any continent on the planet.
niggers can't even feed themselves and you're talking about an industrial revolution. Africa is 4000 years behind, they're not even in the bronze age yet, the industrial age is about 3000 years ahead of africans purview.They didnt have abundant amounts of coal and iron which were needed to make the industrial revolution happen. Without the industrial revolution, certain technologies wouldn't have been possible. Africa does have resources but not the specific resources that other continents had. Additionally, Africans had trains but they were built to export resources to Europe, they werent used to benefit the African people. You are obviously misinformed about this topic.
Africans today experience famines due to the harsh climate, many foods are not affordable, soil is being degraded which means less agricultural activity, wars are disrupting food chains, and so on. All of these are external factors. Again, you are ignoring these problems and blaming their genetics.niggers can't even feed themselves and you're talking about an industrial revolution. Africa is 4000 years behind, they're not even in the bronze age yet, the industrial age is about 3000 years ahead of africans purview.
COPE
more like 75-100 years behind economically tbhniggers can't even feed themselves and you're talking about an industrial revolution. Africa is 4000 years behind, they're not even in the bronze age yet, the industrial age is about 3000 years ahead of africans purview.
COPE
This guy is condescendingmore like 75-100 years behind economically tbh
Just doing a little trolling.All you can do it post emojis like an immature child
That's what Ive been saying this whole time. Whenever I provide sources, these imbeciles say "cope" "stfu, faggot" "you're an SJW" because they have nothing intelligent to say. This section of for serious conversations,not for name calling. These people just don't know any better. It's like I'm talking to wall. Never have scientific discussions on race and IQ with random people on .is. it will lead to toxic behaviorJust doing a little trolling.
I don't believe a certain race is smarter than the other.
However the environment and genetics does impact how humans react to the world around them.
foods are not affordable because they don't grow the food. "muh soil" nice excuse making faggotAfricans today experience famines due to the harsh climate, many foods are not affordable, soil is being degraded which means less agricultural activity, wars are disrupting food chains, and so on. All of these are external factors. Again, you are ignoring these problems and blaming their genetics.
You are riding Hitlers cock bc you are a faggot
Yep, Africa is economically behind due to factors that have nothing to do with genetics. People here will deny it and say "cope" it will never endmore like 75-100 years behind economically tbh
Yeah after Europeans brought the technology to put them 75 years behind. They were 4000 years behind when the White man first set foot on their hellish continentmore like 75-100 years behind economically tbh
100%That's what Ive been saying this whole time. Whenever I provide sources, these imbeciles say "cope" "stfu, faggot" "you're an SJW" because they have nothing intelligent to say. This section of for serious conversations,not for name calling. These people just don't know any better. It's like I'm talking to wall. Never have scientific discussions on race and IQ with random people on .is. it will lead to toxic behavior
It's not their fault. Even if Africans grow their own food, the lack good quality soil to do that. Btw, I'm stating a simple fact, not an excuse.foods are not affordable because they don't grow the food. "muh soil" nice excuse making faggot
you ride niggers cock
I still think it is somewhat genetic, but eugenics could bring blacks up to speed with whites within a single generationYep, Africa is economically behind due to factors that have nothing to do with genetics. People here will deny it and say "cope" it will never end
Africans didn't have adequate resources to develop those advanced technologies nor did they have easy access to these resources, dumbassYeah after Europeans brought the technology to put them 75 years behind. They were 4000 years behind when the White man first set foot on their hellish continent
It wont work because whites are not inherently high IQ, they just have better conditionsI still think it is somewhat genetic, but eugenics could bring blacks up to speed with whites within a single generation
The IQ gap isn't set in stone
perhapsIt wont work because whites are not inherently high IQ, they just have better conditions
All of your comments elicit a "holier than thou" attitude and pretentious behaviorI'm critical of blacks for their degenerate culture and you say that I am sucking BBC? What an ignorant comment
Why do you want to bring them up? JflI still think it is somewhat genetic, but eugenics could bring blacks up to speed with whites within a single generation
The IQ gap isn't set in stone
We do......It wont work because whites are not inherently high IQ, they just have better conditions
the only argument is the history of races.I will not be biased when discussing this controversial topic. I will consider arguments from both sides.
What influences IQ more? Genetics or socioeconomic factors? Here is the answer, none. Why? The consensus of the scientific community is that both contribute to IQ. In some studies, genetics is shown to be more influential, in other studies, socioeconomic/environmental factors are more influential. Which study do you trust? You can't pick a side because of conflicting studies.
Here is my evidence
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I will come back and provide a link, I forgot to add it.https://www.simplypsychology.org/naturevsnurture.html
Race "realists" believe that climate affects your Intelligence. As a non-believer of race realism, this is true. If you are in an environment that with difficult conditions, creativity and problem solving is needed to survive. This has happened with all races, not just Europeans. If genes for superior intelligence is due to cold weather then why were people in warm climates able to invent and create advancements like in Mesopotamia and in the Aztec empire. Race realists will answer something like, "well, Europeans had better technology and established effective systems of government" this is true, however, in sub saharan Africa, those people were isolated from the rest of the world due to the physical/natural barriers. Europe, Asia, and the middle east shared ideas and borrowed technologies from each other. Africa was left out. Europe, Asia, and the middle east has trading routes to trade with each other, they were all connected due to geography. Africa also lacked natural resources which is why they couldn't build the things that were invented in other continents. It was very difficult for people in sub saharan Africa to farm because most of the land wasnt suitable for growing food. The environmental conditions of Africa prevented it's inhabitants from thriving.
Lets say that a caveman in Asia was alone and had to eat an animal to survive. He picks up a tree branch and attached a sharp rock to it. It is now a spear. The environment caused the caveman to use his creativity to make the spear. The caveman then makes a bow and arrow, a shovel, a hut, and so on. Does this reflect his genetics? No, he was able to make this stuff because of the environmental pressures that he was faced with. Over time, this knowledge is then passed down to his offspring. His genes for intelligence that are passed down to his children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren are not improved. Inventing new things doesnt change your genes for Intelligence. In other words, genes that influence intelligence are not altered due to the climate or environment. However, genes for your physical appearance are affected by climate and weather. I can go on and on, I just don't want to make this too long
If you want to critique me, go ahead and do it. I'm fine with that. And be mature about it too. Saying things like "you're a coping faggot", "you are an SJW", "you are stupid shitskin" "you are soyboy" are not productive. These are comments thrown at me by uneducated people. I would rather have an interesting conversation than engage in a pointless argument.
If you think the main reason blacks were unsuccessful is because they were just unlucky you are a gullible retardAfricans didn't have adequate resources to develop those advanced technologies nor did they have easy access to these resources, dumbass
Whites have better conditions, that's why they have higher iqs, not because of their genesAll of your comments elicit a "holier than thou" attitude and pretentious behavior
Why do you want to bring them up? Jfl
They already hate Whites(every other group also) feel entitled to reparations and our women, so why want to uplift them?
And dude, theres a ceiling to everything and genetics are one: Again, I never denied blacks can't improve their IQs but it will still have a limit
We do......
Says the one who believes in race "realism" lolgullible retard