What is the correlation between intelligence and birthrate?

[TheSupremeGentleman]

I've noticed that throughout many modern societies the communities with average higher intelligence (ricecels and mayocels currently) consistently show lower birthrate while inversely communities with average/ below average intelligence (currycels and blackcels) consistently show higher birthrates. This also has to do with society of course as women enter the workforce more often in these higher intelligence/educated countries, people seek less interest in romantic relationships as they are more focused with their jobs and women have no need for men to provide for them as they are financially sufficient on their own but is that truly all there is to it? Research shows that even in highly educated sub-saharan africa average 2.5-3.5 birth whereas the same highly educated people in east asia exhibit less than replacement level birth rates, if it is not just intelligence and the recognizing of antinatalism/the tragic suffering of living therefore viewing it as morally evil exhibited by individuals of higher education then what could it be that drives this discrepency in birth rates? People like to say cost of living but people in african countries suffer way more from being able to comfortably live than individuals in the west/east asia. Of course there is also the role of the media in perpetuating feminist ideology into modern women which could discourage them from reproduction but is that really enough to make these birth rate differences this high? Im open to hearing your opinion on this or to suggest a problem in my thinking process, thanks for reading!

 

[Bulbasaur]

There is a movie called "Idiocracy".

 

[yamnaya khhv]

I've noticed that throughout many modern societies the communities with average higher intelligence (ricecels and mayocels currently) consistently show lower birthrate while inversely communities with average/ below average intelligence (currycels and blackcels) consistently show higher birthrates. This also has to do with society of course as women enter the workforce more often in these higher intelligence/educated countries, people seek less interest in romantic relationships as they are more focused with their jobs and women have no need for men to provide for them as they are financially sufficient on their own but is that truly all there is to it? Research shows that even in highly educated sub-saharan africa average 2.5-3.5 birth whereas the same highly educated people in east asia exhibit less than replacement level birth rates, if it is not just intelligence and the recognizing of antinatalism/the tragic suffering of living therefore viewing it as morally evil exhibited by individuals of higher education then what could it be that drives this discrepency in birth rates? People like to say cost of living but people in african countries suffer way more from being able to comfortably live than individuals in the west/east asia. Of course there is also the role of the media in perpetuating feminist ideology into modern women which could discourage them from reproduction but is that really enough to make these birth rate differences this high? Im open to hearing your opinion on this or to suggest a problem in my thinking process, thanks for reading!

I think, as you said most people are self centered, and in recent years with the raise of feminism and woke bs, it has only boosted this idea between women, which has lead to the individuals of industrialised socities to a more egoistic way of thinking between women and man, both equally, unlike before where most men were more self centered and the women were there to raise the children. As for the example you gave of highly educated sub-saharian countries, this egoist way of thinking in women hasnt arrived yet. And probably because of their beliefs it will take longer than in the west.

 

[ndshinigami]

I don´t think the correlation is with intelligence but economy tbh

 

[yamnaya khhv]

I don´t think the correlation is with intelligence but economy tbh

Well since the industrial revolution the economy has been growing at rates never seen before, and it settled the bases of modern capitalism, and the reasons that i gave are a byproduct of the industrial revolution, so their correlated.

 

[ndshinigami]

Well since the industrial revolution the economy has been growing at rates never seen before, and it settled the bases of modern capitalism, and the reasons that i gave are a byproduct of the industrial revolution, so their correlated.

maybe

 

[Rapemaxxer]

Learn formatting, retard.

 

[Rapemaxxer]

Birthrates are typically related to industrialization. The more industrialized a nation gets, the lower TFR falls. This is because in rural settings, children are typically a net asset as most people live and work on family farms and more children just means more working hands for the fields. After urbanization, this changes. What was an asset in rural farmlands (children) becomes an expensive luxury in industrial cities (more kids means more money spent on nutrition, housing and education).

Foids getting liberated and entering the workforce is also a contributing factor.

 

[TheSupremeGentleman]

Birthrates are typically related to industrialization. The more industrialized a nation gets, the lower TFR falls. This is because in rural settings, children are typically a net asset as most people live and work on family farms and more children just means more working hands for the fields. After urbanization, this changes. What was an asset in rural farmlands (children) becomes an expensive luxury in industrial cities (more kids means more money spent on nutrition, housing and education).

Foids getting liberated and entering the workforce is also a contributing factor.

This still though doesn't explain why educated africans on the same level of intelligence and financial positions still produce a way larger amount of children than Europeans or Asians. Because in those african societies they still need to spend a fuckton of money on nutrition, housing, and education maybe it just comes down to african women not being into that woke bs even when they're educated as much as white or asian women

 

[TheSupremeGentleman]

Learn formatting, retard.

Sorry im new to this, I would rather you not call me a retard though

 

[TheSupremeGentleman]

it will take longer than in the west.

Hopefully that day never arises it will only signify the total collapse of society as we know it if even these countries are affected by this bs

 

[LeFrenchCel]

Generally speaking, the smarter a person is, the less children he has.

Thinking that each generation being more retarded than the previous one is a logical thing to think.

 

[Rapemaxxer]

This still though doesn't explain why educated africans on the same level of intelligence and financial positions still produce a way larger amount of children than Europeans or Asians

They don't. African-Americans have same TFR as white Americans. Only hispanics have high TFR in USA due to being third world migrants with strong religious background and even among them, the second gen ones show the same trend as rest of Americans.

 

[hunter x atomics]

I've noticed that throughout many modern societies the communities with average higher intelligence (ricecels and mayocels currently) consistently show lower birthrate while inversely communities with average/ below average intelligence (currycels and blackcels) consistently show higher birthrates. This also has to do with society of course as women enter the workforce more often in these higher intelligence/educated countries, people seek less interest in romantic relationships as they are more focused with their jobs and women have no need for men to provide for them as they are financially sufficient on their own but is that truly all there is to it? Research shows that even in highly educated sub-saharan africa average 2.5-3.5 birth whereas the same highly educated people in east asia exhibit less than replacement level birth rates, if it is not just intelligence and the recognizing of antinatalism/the tragic suffering of living therefore viewing it as morally evil exhibited by individuals of higher education then what could it be that drives this discrepency in birth rates? People like to say cost of living but people in african countries suffer way more from being able to comfortably live than individuals in the west/east asia. Of course there is also the role of the media in perpetuating feminist ideology into modern women which could discourage them from reproduction but is that really enough to make these birth rate differences this high? Im open to hearing your opinion on this or to suggest a problem in my thinking process, thanks for reading!

my personal take on this, is that its less related to iq and more related to political stances. I dont remember the exact study but there has been research that's found out that high iq right leaning men are incredibly likely to still maintain large amounts of kids while high iq left leaning men arent. to note there is an issue here since most educated and high iq people are left leaning to be honest.
so to answer your question it comes down to a couple things:
>high iq countries tend to adopt more feministic tendencies which allow women to be liberated from men and thus their biological duty
>higher iq women are more likey to be able to pursue high income jobs in comparison to lower iq women. thus are more likely to be career orientated and spend less time in the dating people child rearing since maintaining relationship and having kids take time away from those things
>lower iq and less educated people tend to have positive feelings towards religions such as islam and Christianity which are both incredibly pro-natalism ,while high iq and more educated people are more likely to view this institutions as repressive and thus will lack the moral duty of expanding ones blood lines and family units
>current universities are incredibly pushed to encourage feminstic teachings that the family unit is a burden and produce more career orientated people ,with most people attending unis during their 20s in first world countries this leads to generations of adults going through life with this values

 

[hunter x atomics]

my personal take on this, is that its less related to iq and more related to political stances. I dont remember the exact study but there has been research that's found out that high iq right leaning men are incredibly likely to still maintain large amounts of kids while high iq left leaning men arent. to note there is an issue here since most educated and high iq people are left leaning to be honest.
so to answer your question it comes down to a couple things:
>high iq countries tend to adopt more feministic tendencies which allow women to be liberated from men and thus their biological duty
>higher iq women are more likey to be able to pursue high income jobs in comparison to lower iq women. thus are more likely to be career orientated and spend less time in the dating people child rearing since maintaining relationship and having kids take time away from those things
>lower iq and less educated people tend to have positive feelings towards religions such as islam and Christianity which are both incredibly pro-natalism ,while high iq and more educated people are more likely to view this institutions as repressive and thus will lack the moral duty of expanding ones blood lines and family units
>current universities are incredibly pushed to encourage feminstic teachings that the family unit is a burden and produce more career orientated people ,with most people attending unis during their 20s in first world countries this leads to generations of adults going through life with this values

is all doomed? maybe depends on whether governments are willing to start pushing pro-natalism in the masses and repeal women's rights to make them more reliant on men but maybe neither of this things are required. a good example would be israel the only first world country to maintain an above the replacement level birth rate. the jewish people of israel are doing something right that the rest of the world is not and governments should consider looking into

 

[yamnaya khhv]

the jewish people of israel are doing something right that the rest of the world is not and governments should consider looking into

They look out for their race and the continuation of this like no other people in the planet, something white people need to learn from. The jewish not only do this in their own country, but orthodox jews in america almost doble the national TFR.

 

[aloocard]

It's all about the money. The crashing birth rates correlate with the housing market economic disaster of 2008. People can't afford the good life, and anyone with a brain knows they need to stop shitting out babies to keep enough money to live comfortably. The housing crash made it clear that the economy is just a game played with monopoly money that is now impossible for poors to win. So much is in decline and decay. Smart parents want to have hopes and dreams for their kids to do better and be better, not just watch them struggle to stay afloat.

 

[TheSupremeGentleman]

my personal take on this, is that its less related to iq and more related to political stances. I dont remember the exact study but there has been research that's found out that high iq right leaning men are incredibly likely to still maintain large amounts of kids while high iq left leaning men arent. to note there is an issue here since most educated and high iq people are left leaning to be honest.
so to answer your question it comes down to a couple things:
>high iq countries tend to adopt more feministic tendencies which allow women to be liberated from men and thus their biological duty
>higher iq women are more likey to be able to pursue high income jobs in comparison to lower iq women. thus are more likely to be career orientated and spend less time in the dating people child rearing since maintaining relationship and having kids take time away from those things
>lower iq and less educated people tend to have positive feelings towards religions such as islam and Christianity which are both incredibly pro-natalism ,while high iq and more educated people are more likely to view this institutions as repressive and thus will lack the moral duty of expanding ones blood lines and family units
>current universities are incredibly pushed to encourage feminstic teachings that the family unit is a burden and produce more career orientated people ,with most people attending unis during their 20s in first world countries this leads to generations of adults going through life with this values

Thanks for this, makes sense since a lot of third world countries predominately lean to the left than to the left too

 

[hunter x atomics]

Thanks for this, makes sense since a lot of third world countries predominately lean to the left than to the left too

your welcome

 

[sethx]

They look out for their race and the continuation of this like no other people in the planet, something white people need to learn from. The jewish not only do this in their own country, but orthodox jews in america almost doble the national TFR.

Genuine question: what are some instances you can cite offhand of Jews in the West conspiring together for the benefit of Jewry at large, or at the very least, Jewry in the nation in which they are collectively conspiring with one another?

 

[Entersocialdemocrat]

In the past rich people used to make more children (applies to some people even today) and vice versa for poor people. I could argue that fertility has nothing to do with intelligence, or even correlates positively.

I will not look up at why people are not making children but I can assume its hedonism and liberal ideological stances. Even sheeps breed but goyim don't.