Often I see normies who cite self improvement and personalitymaxxing as a means to ascending. To be honest a good personality can help an average guy with getting a few lays or it can be the one thing that prevents good looking guys from ever getting anything. This is why you see good looking fakecels who claim to struggle with women. They literally have no personality and confidence.
The problem with this is that it fails to address the problem which is that even if you can go through all the self improvement effort and get laid once in a blue moon you still had to work 10x harder than a guy who was born with different DNA in each of his cells. The primary problem of average to ugly men who struggle to get sex isn't that they can never once get laid, but that the effort required is much too high for the pleasure received. At what point is it not worth it for a man to even try in a utilitarian sense? Why should we engage in a game rigged against us which causes us to work much harder than others just for the fleeting feeling of pleasure that accompanies sex? Normies fail to realize how hard it is to stray from your natural tendency to act as you please which in most cases for incels is introverted and passive. The further you are from acting as your natural personality the more strain it puts on the individual; It is harder for a naturally introverted man to act extroverted and confident than a man who was naturally a social person. An average looking shy man must go out to a social place to meet women which he naturally dislikes and then put on a persona of being a confident and sociable guy for at least a few hours while talking to women about things he does not care about and does not find interesting in the slightest. He must repress his impulses to talk about things he likes as the woman will find it uninteresting and become turned off. He must emulate proper body language, witty conversational skills, and lie about himself all for the ends of getting a warm hole to cum inside. This may be worth it for men who are slightly above average as their looks require less compensation than an uglier man.
To this rationale, normies would likely respond with something along the lines of, "self improvement and changing your personality will benefit you forever! its a win win situation!" To this I would cite psychology studies which have determined adult personality to be at least 50% heritable. This means at least half of how you act is completely out of your control. If you are a naturally neurotic man, you will have to constantly fight your anxious impulses of which you have no control over. If you are naturally introverted, you will have to fight your desire to avoid busy social atmospheres that must be accessed to have sex. If you have naturally low conscientiousness, you will need to put in much more effort into perfecting a facade. If you naturally have low agreeableness, you will need to fight that impulse to disagree with people which can disrupt social interactions.
A 4/10 man will have to personalitymaxx himself to the moon and back to be able to compensate for his lack of looks, and some could even say it is impossible for him to get laid with personality if the components of his personality that are needed to get women are already genetically predetermined. What if this 50% heritable genetic personality traits happened to be very high neuroticism and very low extroversion? What is he to do then? Normies will still give this man the cold shoulder and say "just self improve teehee" because there is no way for him to prove that he literally can not change himself enough to get women as technology can't prove his bad personality traits are genetic. For this man, he is genetically unable to have sex ever.
When normies say "just self improve" it is analogus to a wealthy boomer who grew up in a prospering economy responding to complaining college students with "just work harder." Normies would fight the latter statement tooth and nail yet brush off ugly men with the same situation. They are logically inconsistent.
All of this logic is within the framework of normies and even then they are wrong.
The problem with this is that it fails to address the problem which is that even if you can go through all the self improvement effort and get laid once in a blue moon you still had to work 10x harder than a guy who was born with different DNA in each of his cells. The primary problem of average to ugly men who struggle to get sex isn't that they can never once get laid, but that the effort required is much too high for the pleasure received. At what point is it not worth it for a man to even try in a utilitarian sense? Why should we engage in a game rigged against us which causes us to work much harder than others just for the fleeting feeling of pleasure that accompanies sex? Normies fail to realize how hard it is to stray from your natural tendency to act as you please which in most cases for incels is introverted and passive. The further you are from acting as your natural personality the more strain it puts on the individual; It is harder for a naturally introverted man to act extroverted and confident than a man who was naturally a social person. An average looking shy man must go out to a social place to meet women which he naturally dislikes and then put on a persona of being a confident and sociable guy for at least a few hours while talking to women about things he does not care about and does not find interesting in the slightest. He must repress his impulses to talk about things he likes as the woman will find it uninteresting and become turned off. He must emulate proper body language, witty conversational skills, and lie about himself all for the ends of getting a warm hole to cum inside. This may be worth it for men who are slightly above average as their looks require less compensation than an uglier man.
To this rationale, normies would likely respond with something along the lines of, "self improvement and changing your personality will benefit you forever! its a win win situation!" To this I would cite psychology studies which have determined adult personality to be at least 50% heritable. This means at least half of how you act is completely out of your control. If you are a naturally neurotic man, you will have to constantly fight your anxious impulses of which you have no control over. If you are naturally introverted, you will have to fight your desire to avoid busy social atmospheres that must be accessed to have sex. If you have naturally low conscientiousness, you will need to put in much more effort into perfecting a facade. If you naturally have low agreeableness, you will need to fight that impulse to disagree with people which can disrupt social interactions.
A 4/10 man will have to personalitymaxx himself to the moon and back to be able to compensate for his lack of looks, and some could even say it is impossible for him to get laid with personality if the components of his personality that are needed to get women are already genetically predetermined. What if this 50% heritable genetic personality traits happened to be very high neuroticism and very low extroversion? What is he to do then? Normies will still give this man the cold shoulder and say "just self improve teehee" because there is no way for him to prove that he literally can not change himself enough to get women as technology can't prove his bad personality traits are genetic. For this man, he is genetically unable to have sex ever.
When normies say "just self improve" it is analogus to a wealthy boomer who grew up in a prospering economy responding to complaining college students with "just work harder." Normies would fight the latter statement tooth and nail yet brush off ugly men with the same situation. They are logically inconsistent.
All of this logic is within the framework of normies and even then they are wrong.
