Discussion True patriarchy or gender egalitarian society?

[Excalibur]

What's your solution? Either men finally free themselves from gynocentrism and enslave women permanently, turning them into the property of their fathers and husbands, or true egalitarianism is established (one way or another) in which men and women are truly equal if not indistinguishable.

The former solution has historical precedents in some ancient societies and in present-day Afghanistan, while the latter is utopian and has never yet been tried out.

 

[Grodd]

The only option is first

 

[AutistSupremacist]

Gender egalitarianism that was enforced by means of totalitarianism.

 

[Reddit=Bandwagonism]

There can’t be gender egalitarianism because some differences seem to have natural roots. For example, both men and women will always seem to have a bias towards women. Men will always be more attracted to women than vice versa. At the same time, men will always, as a group, rule women as a group. The only reason it’s not like that anymore in the west is due to social engineering by elitist men to artificially put women in positions of power and give them precedence in employment, education, media, etc. This also wouldn’t have happened unless men consented to that, and believed that they are oppressors and thus they should fix the “mistakes” of the past. All western men believe that whether consciously or unconsciously.

 

[Hoodpreet]

There can’t be gender egalitarianism because some differences seem to have natural roots. For example, both men and women will always seem to have a bias towards women. Men will always be more attracted to women than vice versa. At the same time, men will always, as a group, rule women as a group. The only reason it’s not like that anymore in the west is due to social engineering by elitist men to artificially put women in positions of power and give them precedence in employment, education, media, etc. This also wouldn’t have happened unless men consented to that, and believed that they are oppressors and thus they should fix the “mistakes” of the past. All western men believe that whether consciously or unconsciously.

This. It’s literally impossible to equalize privilege between groups, whether that’s sexes or races. One will always have the upper hand because privilege and status are zero sum games.

Even if you gave women and men the exact same “rights” and somehow funneled them into the same career paths in equal proportions, the average woman is still going to be living a much better life than the average man

 

[Hoodpreet]

Gender egalitarianism that was enforced by means of totalitarianism.

Cucked as fuck. See above

 

[AutistSupremacist]

Cucked as fuck. See above

DPRK and france during the french revolution have 0 inceldom and full gender equality

 

[Hoodpreet]

DPRK and france during the french revolution have 0 inceldom and full gender equality

I don’t believe this for a second. And even if it’s true it’s a result of foids being forced to tolerate oofy-doofy. Most of those men in relationships are cucks who get cheated on and disrespected constantly

 

[Hoodpreet]

@Last2025cel cucked as fuck for voting that

 

[Caichan]

Women aren’t equal at all

 

[Last2025cel]

@Last2025cel cucked as fuck for voting that

I voted for the second option because the alternative is for men to be treated as disposable and be drafted into the army and sent off to die for corporate interests. In a truly equal society foids would finally experience the hardships that men have had to deal with for centuries and not live their lives on easy mode with people constatnly making excuses for them which would likely be the case in a patrairchy.

Remember that in all those ancient societies the womens' responsiblites were mainly cooking, cleaning, and taking care of children (so basically nothing), while the men had to work hard and fight in wars, and women were often spared by invading armies.

 

[Hoodpreet]

I voted for the second option because the alternative is for men to be treated as disposable and be drafted into the army and sent off to die for corporate interests. In a truly equal society foids would finally experience the hardships that men have had to deal with for centuries and not live their lives on easy mode with people constatnly making excuses for them which would likely be the case in a patrairchy.

Remember that in all those ancient societies the womens' responsiblites were mainly cooking, cleaning, and taking care of children (so basically nothing), while the men had to work hard and fight in wars, and women were often spared by invading armies.

He clearly specified not that. Hence the clarification of “true” patriarchy plus what he literally described in the post:

men finally free themselves from gynocentrism and enslave women permanently

The 2nd definition of patriarchy here has never existed, but it’s what “patriarchy” is meant as in this hypothetical

 

[plplp5]

the best would be an androcentric society where all men are loved unconditionally no matter our looks. Even in patriarchy there is still gynocentric elements in it like having to provide and protect for women.

 

[8CbZA-kHFu6pFgE*]

the best would be an androcentric society where all men are loved unconditionally no matter our looks

That will never happen unless you are somehow able to completely rewire our DNA

 

[FKP]

Neither

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

What's your solution? Either men finally free themselves from gynocentrism and enslave women permanently, turning them into the property of their fathers and husbands, or true egalitarianism is established (one way or another) in which men and women are truly equal if not indistinguishable.

The former solution has historical precedents in some ancient societies and in present-day Afghanistan, while the latter is utopian and has never yet been tried out.

Equality is impossible. Women will still rule the state. because in a democracy, women can vote themselves and force their betamales to cast the right vote in elections in exchange for threatening to deprive them of sex. this literally puts any democracy in a matriarchy.

 

[Rapistcel]

What's your solution? Either men finally free themselves from gynocentrism and enslave women permanently, turning them into the property of their fathers and husbands, or true egalitarianism is established (one way or another) in which men and women are truly equal if not indistinguishable.

The former solution has historical precedents in some ancient societies and in present-day Afghanistan, while the latter is utopian and has never yet been tried out.

Gender equality is a foid supremacy euphemism

 

[Wretched Thing]

total domination