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Blackpill To Those That Are Religious - Your God Even Made Getting To Heaven Easier For Chad & Stacey

Why would God have a problem with staying pure your entire life by never having sex? Also, being ugly on Earth is irrelevent, because you leave your body behind when you join the spirits, so you would become a beautiful angel if accepted into heaven regardless.
 
That verse doesn't say anywhere that it's easy for poor people to get in... Lol at this narrow minded low iq analysis.

No shit, and I never said it did, water is wet, are we playing the state the obvious game or is this just an attempt at a strawman?. I only stated that it meant it was harder for rich people to get in, which is obviously false if you just look at who is more likely to have to commit crimes to survive. Nice try at a strawman, stop doing that shit, I think I remember you always doing this when we argue, please quote me where I say the bible says ITS EASY FOR POOR PEOPLE TO GET INTO HEAVEN, I know I said the bible says ITS HARDER FOR RICH PEOPLE TO GET INTO HEAVEN.

Idk why you put "truly repent" in quotation marks.

finally questions instead of strawman arguments, by "truly repent" I mean to actually make a change in your life afterwards, a permanent change, not the kind of repent most christians do today where they just go on to do that very same sin again willy nilly. Maybe I used the wrong words to string together.

One would think that my words immediately after that phrase would make obvious what I meant by the phrase - "and never commit those sins ever again, while a poor person will have to sin everyday and repent endlessly as they steal to simply be able to buy food and clothing"

This is how I know you don't know what you're talking about because not sinning isn't what gets you into heaven.

Actually based on the laws of the bible, theoretically if someone was born and died before ever committing a sin, lets say a baby that dies after exiting the womb, they are definitely going to heaven, for you to argue otherwise would be retarded. The only reason that you are technically correct with this statement is because the laws of God are so strict and all encompassing that it is impossible not to sin if you life a "full life", simply thinking about sex is a sin.

That's another thing that makes me laugh, because how then did Jesus not sin, did he never think about having sex?
 
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Oh my god you sound such like a typical angsty teenager atheist edgelord......

Not an atheist, ironically I believe in a God, I just don't think he's magically "good" by defualt by virtue of being God, that's where I think most people fail, once you say that someone is good by virtue of their title then no matter what they do they are good and you will rationalize their actions as good. This is why people who are "staunchly religious" have a strong cognitive bias in seeing the contradictions and the evil of their God.

Penance is one form of punishment and the video clearly implies there are other forms of punishment( rewatch the video carefully). What they are I do not know, I am not a Catholic so I am not well verse on this topic but I do know enough that God wouldn't allow folk without suffering some form of punishment which is said in the video if you bother to actually watch it....

Which holds no relevance to your statement because you said - "God doesn't allow sinners to escape punishment." immediately after the video, so when you make a statement such as that, it implies that some specific methods will be explained. Isn't that convenient, you can just say - "Oh no, God is gonna getcha" and give no specifics and that makes you right. Are you seriously telling me you can't give me one damn example but I'm supposed to believe you lol.

Oh and look at how convenient that is, you can just say whatever bad things happen to X person in their life is "Gods Punishment" for their sins. You idiots are illogical, if someone dies you'll say - "God's taking them home, its their time", in an alternate universe THAT SAME PERSON LIVES INSTEAD and guess what that universes version of you says - "God saved them, he kept them from dying because he has a plan for them". You didn't know if either statement was true, but because you have no "litmus test" for whether God did something or not you can just assume whatever happened was what he willed to happen, its an argument of convenience idiot.


There is no escaping punishment and the eternal punishment has be already been forgiven for all......

JFL this is what I'm talking about, same book, different interpretations, and every fuck thinks they're the one who knows what the book is really say, some say hell exists, others like you say nobody is going there. Like I said, these books are written like this so they can appeal to various mindsets, or the authors were idiots and weren't specific in their writings leading to all these various denominations and differences in interpretation.

Deception implies intent. As one one cannot do evil or sin without intent one cannot deceive without intent. Deception is lying and lying is sin. Your words are therefore, nonsensical.....

I can see english isn't your first language........

I am insure that my claim that ISIS isn't Muslim isn't something I just pull from my ass. If you've bother to watch the video I linked

Oh yeah retard, the random youtube video online is the greatest proof in existence for why its Jews behind ISIS and not muslims and the same Jews that own the site never thought to take down that video JFL. When I see some project veritas level proof with videos, leaked emails, etc then i'll believe you, some random BS video that you showed is nothing but a biased perspective with no actual proof. You can't say - "Oh you want proof, look at this youtube video" retard, how can you not get something that simple smh.
 
I meditate from time to time but that's about it. I read about origins of religion but all seem too suspect to follow. Religion is for normies to get married and have a bunch of kids living productive lives.

I think spirits exist but the God of the bible is mostly made up and exaggerated. Sumerian creation myths have a more realistic story when interpreted correctly. Genesis is a distortion of Sumerian creation myth. God was a group of beings, the serpent was another group (actually the good guys of the Bible because they wanted humans to learn.) Most singular entities in Genesis were actually representative of groups. 7 days of creation were actually evolution periods matching quite closely to modern science.

War in Heaven was actually a war in space. Star Wars OT is pretty close to the history of this battle because George Lucas was actually well versed in mythology. A planet was destroyed to create the asteriod belt. A group of rebels hid out on mars underground while false intel was given to destroy Tiamat water planet. The Moon is actually artificial (that's no moon) and similar to the death star. Earth is kind of like a prison.

God is just a happy story to make you feel better when reality is pretty shit. The funny thing is, if you read the Bible, the overall message is that this is a prison planet watched over by a sadistic host of entities. Jesus gave the parable of the ten talents where the chad that had 10 to start and only increased 1 was rewarded over the poor fuck who only had 1 and was too "lazy" to increase his stock any more. So what happened? Jesus' dad takes that talent from him and gives it to chad. In reality, 10% increase of 1 would be part of a talent, but since this rounds to zero, it looks like the loser neet wasn't working. Chad just benefitted from the principle "you need to have money to make money". And the evil god rewarded him and stole from the incel. Basically Biblical Logic 101
 
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Not really. If you are gl you're more likely to commit sin
 
Not really. If you are gl you're more likely to commit sin

Its like you didn't even read my post, of course you're more likely to commit sin, THAT'S THE POINT, you got to thoroughly enjoy sinning to the point where you are satisfied, so in your older years there isn't much yearning for it, its easier for chad to stop being degenerate and "settle down", because not only does he have his pick of the litter of wives, but he's already had his fill. Are there chads and normie males who cheat, of course, but there are many that feel no need to because for them "that was in the past".

Also please understand that in the Bible even fantasizing about sex is a sin, so were ironically not any better in God's eyes than Chad who actually gets to enjoy doing the sin. While they're doing it, were fantasizing about doing it, both parties are sinning.
 
Abrahamic religion is opposed to incels getting anything out of life. In the tale of gilgamesh, the hairy incel enkidu got a temple slut to make him more 'human'. It worked to a degree. He still was no match for the chad Gilgamesh, but he at least scored some puss. Temple prostitution was considered a religious rite and a service to get closer to the gods.

Then comes along Abrahamic religion and bans prostitution, magical rituals, most forms of secular learning and art, and drug and alcohol consumption. We are further away from the divine because of this blemish on humanity. Everyone, including incels, were better off under paganism.
 
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Please, do list them and we can go over them one by one.
I can't be angry at God when he has proved (implying he exists) that he is completely irrational and can't make a single good decision. Your average hobo would be better at running this world, and also if we go by the Abrahamic religions, he is supposed to be fair (yes, he may put you through tests to prove your faith to him) at least to his believers. Now, we just need to look at history and see how true that is. Spoiler: complete fucking delusion. So, here you are with me :)

I shall not bother to waste my time listing all the evidence for a god just to be ignore and be write off as wishful thinking. I, however, shall give you my thought as to why I think that a god is a more reasonable explanation for life on earth than a natural one. It will not take long and it will be short and simple.
When you look at a car, building, or anything with structure you think they're all the products of a mind/designer/creator. It is possible for things that are stereotypically associated with humans such a book of literature can technically be result of nature if given enough time and chaos. While technically true it is still far reasonable to assume the book is created by a human( a mind) than rather the result of chaos. It is not dubious to say that the lifeforms on this planet all are far complicated and structure than any man creation.The point is that the more eloborate and structure something is the more likely it is the result of order( the mind) then that of chaos (nature). I am sure you know the term for this type of reasoning I am using.

What exactly are your gripes with God?

Not an atheist, ironically I believe in a God, I just don't think he's magically "good" by defualt by virtue of being God, that's where I think most people fail, once you say that someone is good by virtue of their title then no matter what they do they are good and you will rationalize their actions as good. This is why people who are "staunchly religious" have a strong cognitive bias in seeing the contradictions and the evil of their God.

I see I was mistaken in calling you an atheist then, my apologies. What evil are you referring to that God has committed?


Which holds no relevance to your statement because you said - "God doesn't allow sinners to escape punishment." immediately after the video, so when you make a statement such as that, it implies that some specific methods will be explained. Isn't that convenient, you can just say - "Oh no, God is gonna getcha" and give no specifics and that makes you right. Are you seriously telling me you can't give me one damn example but I'm supposed to believe you lol.

My god, you're such a sperg. So it is bullshit that God don't allow sins to go unpunished because I didn't list all the other forms of punishment. Well I guess they must be lying when they explicitly imply that penance is just one form of punishment of sin from the 2:40 time-mark and forward. If you want to know them so much then I advise you to actually ask the guys on the show or someone who is well verse in the Christian scripture. Want me to do it for you?

Oh and look at how convenient that is, you can just say whatever bad things happen to X person in their life is "Gods Punishment" for their sins. You idiots are illogical, if someone dies you'll say - "God's taking them home, its their time", in an alternate universe THAT SAME PERSON LIVES INSTEAD and guess what that universes version of you says - "God saved them, he kept them from dying because he has a plan for them". You didn't know if either statement was true, but because you have no "litmus test" for whether God did something or not you can just assume whatever happened was what he willed to happen, its an argument of convenience idiot.

I don't appreciate you calling me an idiot. I hope you try to re-frame from calling me that again. I have not insulted you (previously), and I expect you to not insult me. Anyways, I nor any Christian thinks that whatever bad thing that happens to sinners is the work of God. he suppose contradiction you're trying to bring up isn't a contradiction at all. Whether you live or die is up to the discretion of God. He may let you live or He may let you die. What decision he makes is not something mortals such as you nor I have any right to criticize. Your knowledge is a speck of dust in comparison to God.


JFL this is what I'm talking about, same book, different interpretations, and every fuck thinks they're the one who knows what the book is really say, some say hell exists, others like you say nobody is going there. Like I said, these books are written like this so they can appeal to various mindsets, or the authors were idiots and weren't specific in their writings leading to all these various denominations and differences in interpretation.

So any interpretation of the Bible and religious texts are all equally valid..... I guess religious scholars are wasting their time when a hobo can understand any religious text as good as them. Get the fuck out of here. I guess ISIS interpretation of the Quran is legit even though they're killing Muslims when the Quran explicitly say this isn't allowed......

I can see english isn't your first language........

Says the guy who misuse the term deceiving to suggest anyone can unknowingly deceive someone, like how people accidentally lie all the time....

Oh yeah retard, the random youtube video online is the greatest proof in existence for why its Jews behind ISIS and not muslims and the same Jews that own the site never thought to take down that video JFL. When I see some project veritas level proof with videos, leaked emails, etc then i'll believe you, some random BS video that you showed is nothing but a biased perspective with no actual proof. You can't say - "Oh you want proof, look at this youtube video" retard, how can you not get something that simple smh.

At what point did I say Jews are responsible for ISIS? I said that ISIS isn't Muslim because their actions are benefiting Jews while severely hurting Muslims. At no point I say that Israel is responsible for ISIS but they are profiting off of ISIS. Nice strawman though. The video provides evidence for a positive relationship between ISIS and Israel. Do you deny the evidence that were used in the video? Is there something wrong with his sources? The video creator in question isn't a Muslim so he isn't being biased in favor of Muslims.......
 
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Its like you didn't even read my post, of course you're more likely to commit sin, THAT'S THE POINT, you got to thoroughly enjoy sinning to the point where you are satisfied, so in your older years there isn't much yearning for it, its easier for chad to stop being degenerate and "settle down", because not only does he have his pick of the litter of wives, but he's already had his fill. Are there chads and normie males who cheat, of course, but there are many that feel no need to because for them "that was in the past".

Also please understand that in the Bible even fantasizing about sex is a sin, so were ironically not any better in God's eyes than Chad who actually gets to enjoy doing the sin. While they're doing it, were fantasizing about doing it, both parties are sinning.
Doesnt matter if he enjoyed it. He'll burn for it. Its better to be non-degenerate period than being a former degenerate.
 
Its Doesnt matter if he enjoyed it. He'll burn for it. Its better to be non-degenerate period than being a former degenerate.

Yes and we'll burn for our unclean thoughts all the same lol, so who got the better deal. Were all degenerate in God's eyes, the guy whose been in orgies, and the guy who is so sexually repressed he thinks about orgies and masturbates to porn, both may end up in hell BUT ONLY ONE ACTUALLY GOT TO ENJOY HIMSELF.

Stop coping.
 
Yes and we'll burn for our unclean thoughts all the same lol, so who got the better deal. Were all degenerate in God's eyes, the guy whose been in orgies, and the guy who is so sexually repressed he thinks about orgies and masturbates to porn, both may end up in hell BUT ONLY ONE ACTUALLY GOT TO ENJOY HIMSELF.

Stop coping.
Nah we wont. Fornication is a worse sin than thinking of sex lol. Not all sins are the same
 
Nah we wont. Fornication is a worse sin than thinking of sex lol. Not all sins are the same

Wrong actually, not all sins are the same, quite obviously, but fornication and masturbation are along the same lines, both are sins that don't really have a "direct negative impact" like murder or theft, they are both "victimless sins".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_sin

Its basically all the same to God, masturbation and fornication are BOTH "mortal sins"

"The following is a partial list of actions that are defined as constituting a grave matter by the Catechism of the Catholic Church or like sources (such as declarations by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Apostolic Letters, or other sources printed by Church authorities)."

"Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and homosexual practices."
 
No shit, and I never said it did, water is wet, are we playing the state the obvious game or is this just an attempt at a strawman?. I only stated that it meant it was harder for rich people to get in, which is obviously false if you just look at who is more likely to have to commit crimes to survive. Nice try at a strawman, stop doing that shit, I think I remember you always doing this when we argue, please quote me where I say the bible says ITS EASY FOR POOR PEOPLE TO GET INTO HEAVEN, I know I said the bible says ITS HARDER FOR RICH PEOPLE TO GET INTO HEAVEN.

I never said that you said it did. I am telling you that because my point is that the BIBLE ISN'T SAYING THAT IT IS HARDER FOR RICH PEOPLE TO GET INTO HEAVEN. Please reread that paragraph. My argument was that it is just as hard for both of them. Which is why I said this:

Jesus said that because the prevailing view is that if you are poor, IT'S OGRE. If you are rich, you can chill, you won't sin and you can donate to church. After Jesus said that verse his disciples said "Who then can be saved?", they didn't say "Oh we're not rich, it's cool" lol.

The apostles were surprised because if rich people find it hard to get into heaven, THEN there is no chance for them. At no point did the bible say it was easier for poor people to get into heaven so where did you conclude that it was harder for rich people?

finally questions instead of strawman arguments, by "truly repent" I mean to actually make a change in your life afterwards, a permanent change, not the kind of repent most christians do today where they just go on to do that very same sin again willy nilly. Maybe I used the wrong words to string together.

One would think that my words immediately after that phrase would make obvious what I meant by the phrase - "and never commit those sins ever again, while a poor person will have to sin everyday and repent endlessly as they steal to simply be able to buy food and clothing"

Except I didn't strawman or claim you said anything that you didn't. I just claimed the Bible didn't say something. I get what you mean - I thought you were using quotation marks ironically.

Actually based on the laws of the bible, theoretically if someone was born and died before ever committing a sin, lets say a baby that dies after exiting the womb, they are definitely going to heaven, for you to argue otherwise would be retarded. The only reason that you are technically correct with this statement is because the laws of God are so strict and all encompassing that it is impossible not to sin if you life a "full life", simply thinking about sex is a sin.

That's another thing that makes me laugh, because how then did Jesus not sin, did he never think about having sex?

Yeah they are saved because of God's mercy but it is not because they haven't sinned - it is because God doesn't hold them accountable for their sinfulness. Not sinning is not what gets you into heaven - receiving Christ's salvation is. The reason God shows mercy to them is because they are not mentally capable of understanding their sinful state and their need for the Savior.

The laws of God really aren't that strict but even if they are, there is still not a problem. It is not avoiding sin that gets you into heaven - that is the opposite of Christian belief. Thinking about sex with your wife is not a sin if you are morally free to act on those. Most people cannot control all the thoughts they have but choosing to dwell on those thoughts is an active thing and both should be repented for.

Jesus did not inherit sin so he had the ability to abstain from it completely. Yes, Jesus was sinless and that is exactly why all of us can get into heaven whether Chad, Stacey, normie or incel - due to God's gift of salvation. This thread is a complete and utter misunderstanding of the Christian religion. This view you have pertains to other ones though.
 
Wrong actually, not all sins are the same, quite obviously, but fornication and masturbation are along the same lines, both are sins that don't really have a "direct negative impact" like murder or theft, they are both "victimless sins".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_sin

Its basically all the same to God, masturbation and fornication are BOTH "mortal sins"

"The following is a partial list of actions that are defined as constituting a grave matter by the Catechism of the Catholic Church or like sources (such as declarations by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Apostolic Letters, or other sources printed by Church authorities)."

"Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and homosexual practices."

All sins are equally sinful. Some just have a bigger impact on others so they are regarded as worse or punished more severely. In the end, all people who haven't received God's gift of salvation are choosing hell.

Also sexual fantasy =/= masturbation. Even so lust is a sin so both are sinful.

I really don't see how it is easier for anyone to get to heaven when getting to heaven is a matter of God accepting you/you receiving his salvation and this isn't done based on good or bad acts.
 
OP is moderately right inasmuch as loserdom can aggravate vice. For this reason vice and failure used to be linked in old folks tales. The more desperate a man is, the harder it will be for him not to sin.
 
OP is moderately right inasmuch as loserdom can aggravate vice. For this reason vice and failure used to be linked in old folks tales. The more desperate a man is, the harder it will be for him not to sin.
Brutal based truth
 
Abrahamic religion is opposed to incels getting anything out of life. In the tale of gilgamesh, the hairy incel enkidu got a temple slut to make him more 'human'. It worked to a degree. He still was no match for the chad Gilgamesh, but he at least scored some puss. Temple prostitution was considered a religious rite and a service to get closer to the gods.

Then comes along Abrahamic religion and bans prostitution, magical rituals, most forms of secular learning and art, and drug and alcohol consumption. We are further away from the divine because of this blemish on humanity. Everyone, including incels, were better off under paganism.
This
 
A while back the Catholic Church said you could literally pay your way to be forgiven to and still go to heaven lol

Sucks to be a peasant huh?
 
I will go ER in Heaven
 
Not true.

Plenty of Chads and Stacies have died from AIDS, drinking and drug abuse throughout time, car crashes while doing stupid shit like texting while driving and or taking selfies in dangerous places.

In the not incredibly distant past before antibiotics existed Chads and Stacies would die of the syphillis STD also and still may do so in modernity if they don’t get treated in time and just let the infection fester and progress to its final stages.

Also think of how many Chad rivals killed eachother over a particular Stacy all throughout time and human history not to mention the endless amount of love triangle murder suicides carried out by Chads and Stacies against eachother when things don’t go according to plan etc, etc.

So yes there is or rather can be a dark side to being a Chad or Stacy.

The endlessly depressing college fraternity stories of cruel hazing and needless stupid bullshit caused deaths are proof positive of this.

Also the tale of the Stacy Jodi Arias and her murder victim Chad poor old Travis or Casey Anthony or or or...

So just saying while they do generally have it better than us they lack our common sense and wisdom brought about by our suffering and loneliness forcing us to get to know ourselves and THINK about our actions and a thousand other things to keep our minds busy from video games playing to deep philosophical studying via book reading to anything else we can think of to promote mental stimulation and distraction from our daily LDAR grind.

You think Chad and Stacy have time or the inclination for that or any deep introspection whatsoever???
 
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Your God has practically almost set in stone that he's sent you to hell, even before you were born and were being formed in the womb, because by being unattractive God has set you up for a life where you will be "chasing sin and degeneracy" into your old age, while Chad and Stacey have already "sowed their wild oats" and thoroughly enjoyed degeneracy and are now moving on to living a "Godly Life".
I will admit, that the kind of temptations will be different (for the incel: envy, hate, lethargy..., for the chad: pride, lust), but
1. it is not so that the so called "godly" life in human eyes is clean in Gods eyes. God looks at the heart of the person and sin begins at thoughts. And how much so called great Godly ministries get damaged falled down because of the sin of lust and adultery.
2. the "so called Godly Life" does not erase your sins, only the blood of Jesus
3. sin is not cool or good or something to play with, it causes division to God.
4. God has often a special eye for the (even sexual) outcasts: On of the first greater revealing of Jesus was to a Samaritan (even not a real full jew) woman, who had 5 men before and wasn't married to the man she was in a relationship then. For this times: ultraslut. (John 4 and 5)
5. the way to heaven is strait and narrow: Jesus, and yes it is also open for chads and stacys, but also for the one, with the worst genetic and life/love luck. "And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely" Rev 22
 
I believe in chaos
 
Christians are typically stupid, but you have to be mentally handicapped to be incel and Christian at the same time.

How can incel Christcucks believe in an all-good, all-powerful, all-wise god when their faces are so f-king ugly? If they had higher IQ's, they'd be using the pages of the holy bible for toilet paper, which is the only thing that nonsense is good for.
I will reply to you, although I don't think that I can change your view instantly.
At which kind of misery will your belief in God start or at which degree of absence of misery will your belief in God start?

How can it RAIN at ME, when I open the door. 3 hours ago there was sunshine. God, I hate you. (or cannot be existent)
What with natural catastrophes, Tsunamis and Tornados? How can you believe in God? (or cannot be existent)
We have always much lower money than our neighbors because they had rich parents and a big inheritance. They are such a**hole. God, how dare you? (or cannot be existent)
My wife never gets pregnant. God is so cruel. (or cannot be existent)
All my sons and daughters and wife died. God? A Myth.

To the end, you have to say, that only the complete absence of misery would you convict of a God. But even this would be subjective. For some a fool's paradise (cockaigne) of milk, honey, chocolate, beer, cable-tv and p*ssy in free abundance 24/7, for others it would be pure degeneracy dystopia, who love the challenges in life or at least accept it as healthy part of life.

For every God-curser/denier of the above examples, you will find a God-worshipper and God-knower, who can end the statement with "Praise the Lord" or "Thank you Lord".
And then people who know God, know that this is not paradise and we should not and could not fulfill our deepest desires on this earth in this time (especially without God). That this is a fallen world with suffering, above all the division from the life source like it was originally before mankind's first sin. Part of the consequences was by the way also a curse on the male-female relationship - but that would to big to discuss here.

You could ask further: How can there even be the definition of ugly face and beautiful face, when there are only beautiful faces? If there would be only 8/10, 9/10 and 10/10 faces on earth, would MEN be so harsh and cruel and call then the 8/10 "ugly"?
 
I just read this entire thread and gained no knowledge on what to believe LOL
Can one of you just die and respawn and let me know the outcome
 
the "so called Godly Life" does not erase your sins, only the blood of Jesus

Yes, which a sexually satisfied person is more likely to gain access to, you are more likely to feel shame and disgust with an act that you've "had your fill of", because your shame will surpass your yearning for it, for incels it will likely be the opposite even into their 50's, we'll still be "playing the field" into our 40's, while Chad is "settling down" in his mid 30's, that's my point

You are just being biased and presupposing that people who have had enjoyable lives won't find "the blood of jesus", I'm stating its common sense that they will more likely find it than someone who is still lustful and yearning because they haven't gotten to enjoy the pleasures of life

For example I can't ever see myself settling down and getting married ever, I would not see the point, and my shitty life has made me bitter and hateful of God, even if I got into heaven I would probably fantasize about finding ways to overthrow him or even kill him, I'd end up being the next lucifer or something and get cast down with the new earth he creates (which he likely would do out of boredom), and the cycle repeats (just as he wants, as this is all for his entertainment, but that's a theory for another thread)
 
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They say life's only mercy is an early death for the lonely
 
You know what's funny. Jesus talks about giving away money if you're rich, but he never mentions giving away good looks, because its impossible. Being beautiful is the most precious thing in the world, and that's why acid attacks are so feared, because they destroy the most precious thing there is.
 
Yes, which a sexually satisfied person is more likely to gain access to, you are more likely to feel shame and disgust with an act that you've "had your fill of", because your shame will surpass your yearning for it, for incels it will likely be the opposite even into their 50's, we'll still be "playing the field" into our 40's, while Chad is "settling down" in his mid 30's, that's my point

I get your point, but on the other side it doesn't match up fully with at least my experience.
1. From my local Christian brothers I know one, who hade before a wild fornicating life, also after conversion and living in faithful marriage has sexual temptation more than me, the foreveralonerincel.
2. The Spirit of God can and will change people's thoughts and desires. This may contradict* point one, but there are so many testimonies out there how longterm alcoholics and drug users were unable or unwilling to consume/drink from one day to the next.
3. Sexual desires are in itself not evil. But besides the evil envy it should not the promiscuous chad lifestyle we long for satisfying this desire(-which isn't to say I wouldn't have thoughts like that myself if I were the only man left on this earth.) This, sin, is every time an illusion, which will make the void and greed greater. Either in God's way or transformed desire and sexual energy by God.
Gods love, Spirit and authority of his greatness and truth can transform you and may start at your mind:
(Tit 2:12)
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
(1 John 2:16,17)
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
And maybe my cope - but I admit, it is difficult right now, otherwise I probably wouldn't have found i.co and registered, but fit in here:
(Mt 19:12)
For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.


Explanation: Contradicting only, if you think God is pragmatical. God is holy and wanted to be glorified, which he does in both ways. By supernatural transformation also like that we sacrifice ourselves, fight the good, testing us and perfecting the faith, or at least don't give legal rights to the devil, which can maybe come trough our own evil free will ("I want this, despite I know it is sin in Gods eyes.".)


You know what's funny. Jesus talks about giving away money if you're rich, but he never mentions giving away good looks, because its impossible. Being beautiful is the most precious thing in the world, and that's why acid attacks are so feared, because they destroy the most precious thing there is.

The Old Testament mentions as mainly immaterial blessings also the beautiful wife and beautiful daughters, but in books of proverbs much more the good wife besides other things like wisdom, fertility, health, long life, friendship, a good son and also superficially material ones like land, property, armies, children, women, animals, cattle and sheep and agricultural yields in quantity.
The first two mentions of beauty, of course of women, in the Bible are associated with sinful events. First the interbreeding of extraterrestrial gigachads with the beautiful daughters of mankind and second the beef between Abram and Pharao about probably life and death about his beautiful wife Sara.

Since Jesus New Covenant is more spiritual these things all take a lower role in his kingdom. The only times about outwards appearance he spoke of the "whitewashed tombs" of the pharisees and the beatiful temple, from which he said "there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down."

Why are there several cases of women who complain of their suffering due to their infertility but not of men who complain of their inceldom due to their ugliness? So why the eternal God assesses the topic of physical beauty differently than humans (especially humans today) and does not pay attention to it, cannot be fully clarified in the end. Perhaps it is like many trivial things not included in scriptire. Does he not want to tell us the pink elephant in the room? Is God the forerunner of Blue Pill? I think not. Maybe he has a very different view of beauty, especially after the most beautiful creature he ever created, Lucifer, became so rebellious and evil and fell so deeply to Satan. Why should all the things that he created very well but today corrupted by sin, be any different when it comes to evaluating people, even the SMV? One note: Even in these OT times, also sinful times, the relationship dynamics between men and women were completely different. Women were property without much rights and arranged marriages.

To your knowledge:
Yes, since beauty is hard to share or give away, there's little point in asking for it. But Jesus did call on the rich not to become proud, just as one can also apply it to the beautiful.

In Christ all became and are one. The women and men, the masters and slaves, the Gentiles and Jews, the ugly and the beautiful, the rich and poor.
 
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I get your point, but on the other side it doesn't match up fully with at least my experience.

JFL dude stop lying, basically every fucking Christian couple TODAY had sex before marriage and "played the field", there are like zero "sex after marriage" Christian couples alive today except for those who are in their 70's to 90's, so you are outright lying, the majority of Christians today have had sex lives before marriage, seriously I've never seen a statement more blatantly and obviously false

You must live in some remote village or something, I'd ask where you got an internet connection to use this website, because most Christians today have ACTIVE SEX LIVES WAY BEFORE MARRIAGE, so maybe your experience includes you not even interacting or talking to other people

Let me guess your next response is basically a "No True Scotsman" fallacy - "They weren't REAAAAAL Christians"

I'm done, keep believing your delusions, but that Chad that bullied you in school is going to be sitting right next to you in heaven with a big grin on his face and there's going to be nothing you can do about it
 
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The Old Testament mentions as mainly immaterial blessings also the beautiful wife and beautiful daughters, but in books of proverbs much more the good wife besides other things like wisdom, fertility, health, long life, friendship, a good son and also superficially material ones like land, property, armies, children, women, animals, cattle and sheep and agricultural yields in quantity.
The first two mentions of beauty, of course of women, in the Bible are associated with sinful events. First the interbreeding of extraterrestrial gigachads with the beautiful daughters of mankind and second the beef between Abram and Pharao about probably life and death about his beautiful wife Sara.

Since Jesus New Covenant is more spiritual these things all take a lower role in his kingdom. The only times about outwards appearance he spoke of the "whitewashed tombs" of the pharisees and the beatiful temple, from which he said "there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down."

Why are there several cases of women who complain of their suffering due to their infertility but not of men who complain of their inceldom due to their ugliness? So why the eternal God assesses the topic of physical beauty differently than humans (especially humans today) and does not pay attention to it, cannot be fully clarified in the end. Perhaps it is like many trivial things not included in scriptire. Does he not want to tell us the pink elephant in the room? Is God the forerunner of Blue Pill? I think not. Maybe he has a very different view of beauty, especially after the most beautiful creature he ever created, Lucifer, became so rebellious and evil and fell so deeply to Satan. Why should all the things that he created very well but today corrupted by sin, be any different when it comes to evaluating people, even the SMV? One note: Even in these OT times, also sinful times, the relationship dynamics between men and women were completely different. Women were property without much rights and arranged marriages.

To your knowledge:
Yes, since beauty is hard to share or give away, there's little point in asking for it. But Jesus did call on the rich not to become proud, just as one can also apply it to the beautiful.

In Christ all became and are one. The women and men, the masters and slaves, the Gentiles and Jews, the ugly and the beautiful, the rich and poor.

Point is that rich people have an advantage but are morally obligated to give away their wealth or they might be punished for being greedy. Beautiful people get to enjoy the benefits without being punished. Nice job by God there
 
Point is that rich people have an advantage but are morally obligated to give away their wealth or they might be punished for being greedy. Beautiful people get to enjoy the benefits without being punished. Nice job by God there

JFL you pointed out something important that I didn't even think of, watch christfags minds explode trying to rationalize this BS

Also an ironic little loophole that opens up from this, is that someone can pour their wealth into their looks (surgeries, treatments, etc) and that way they can benefit from their looks without consequence and give whatever they have to spare as charity afterwards
 
this is by far the worst thread i have ever seen in this site since i made an account here.If man commits evil he will pay.god is just and he will not see the unjust go unscathed.
 
this is by far the worst thread i have ever seen in this site since i made an account here.If man commits evil he will pay.god is just and he will not see the unjust go unscathed.

JFL at this cope

Anybody who reads the bible honestly and without bias can say that God without a doubt is not a just God and he is not a sane God either

One of the most obvious and blatant examples is in one of the most well known bible stories (Moses vs Pharaoh of Egypt)

Christians go on and on about God giving us free will, but God went out of his way to force the Pharaoh to not release the slaves, directly violating his free will

Exodus 7:13-14 King James Version (KJV)
13 And he hardened Pharaoh's heart, that he hearkened not unto them; as the Lord had said.
14 And the Lord said unto Moses, Pharaoh's heart is hardened, he refuseth to let the people go.

I hope you can read, notice the part where it says "as the Lord had said", in other words God told moses the Pharaoh would not listen, THEN MADE SURE THE PHARAOH WOULD NOT LISTEN THEN TOLD MOSES "SEE I WAS RIGHT"

God is a manipulative psychopath

JFL so who is to say God didn't harden Hitlers heart and turned him into the "monster" history knows him for, whose to say God isn't doing that to millions of people on the planet because it suits his "prophecy" of what he believes must happen

Heck God could have kept you from getting laid because he needed you specifically to be an incel so that some specific chain of events could happen so his prophecy would come to past, but no lets praise blindly praise him, your God betrayed you before you were even born, some of us were literally born to suffer for his sake

Please tell me how that is something worthy of thanks and worship
 
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I actually hope god does exist. At least I can then hold someone responsible for my suffering when I die.
 
But the majority of inhabitants of jannah are poor people. They will enter first, and Christianity is not even the right religion, is cucked, Jesus only came for the children of israel, the bible has changed throughout history becoming a man made book basically, the likes of our great scholars like Ahmed deedat expose and destroyed Christian pastors in debates. Also the church doesn't even follow the bible, one of your books forbid alcohol yet some Christians drink alcohol in the churches, the teaching of the church is different from the bible

Here's my Ahmed deedat (rip) cleaning up these fools in debates









Other guys like dr Zakir naik that are masters in comparative religion have won many debates and answered so many questions



Also your statement is flawed people who sinned at young age will have very hard time getting on track since they have been damaged spiritually causing it sometimes to be permanent, but you can keep coping. So many ugly subhuman Muslims that are out there happy and living peaceful and content lives.


Fuck you dumb fucking goat fucker
 
I am not religious but I larp and syncretise certain things. Sex is the most evil thing in the universe. It ruins everything. If it weren't for sex than I could be eating lunch with my special angel right now. We must declare all pre-marital sex to be statutory rape in order to save society from itself.


RE
The anti-masturbation stuff was added on later and was never historically in abrahamic religions until the soccer moms came to power in the 1800s. That doesn't victimize anyone and is nobody else's business.
 
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JFL you pointed out something important that I didn't even think of, watch christfags minds explode trying to rationalize this BS

Also an ironic little loophole that opens up from this, is that someone can pour their wealth into their looks (surgeries, treatments, etc) and that way they can benefit from their looks without consequence and give whatever they have to spare as charity afterwards


"But the one who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, will receive a light beating. Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more." (Lk 12:48)

God gives nothing about charity when the heart is not right.
When some Christ is doing surgery, that should be not out of vain; some may argue cosmetical surgery is in any case a sin, since our body and face is the gift of God. (analog to "Life" as gift and suicide as sin, independant how cruel this life may be)
The Christian life should not be about looking for benefits for ourselves anymore, which means less and less, but serving others and the Lord. And like I said: The Spirit of God can change people. Sin may not appealing anymore (like before at least) or have the power like before. Worldy indulgence does not glorify God and bring growth and blessing only by detours. Some need more time, some less for changing in different fields, at least in heaven they will see that this was vain.

You must live in some remote village or something, I'd ask where you got an internet connection to use this website, because most Christians today have ACTIVE SEX LIVES WAY BEFORE MARRIAGE, so maybe your experience includes you not even interacting or talking to other people
hey, I didn't say that, though where I come from - one of the most atheistic regions in the world, albeit in the western world - it will still be somewhat different from the USA. Anyone who is a Christian here is usually also serious about it.
But I have no illusions that it is no longer a taken for granted, and that it will soon be the exception rather than the rule.

I was more concerned with the point that was claimed: They have lived the Chad life, now they will have fewer problems/desires in a marriage, because they've "let off steam".
1. With the Spirit and Word of Christ, the "let off steam" should no longer have any serious appeal - even though it is well known to me that the churches are happy that young people come or stay in church at all. Raised Christians is not the same like being Christian, not the same like being commited Christian.
2. It is not certain that, for example, the group of Christian couples who have lived faithfully and chastely even before marriage, in contrast to Christian couples who before marriage - whether they had already grown up Christian or not yet been Christians - live out their sexual pleasures more or less uninhibitedly, automatically have more sexual temptations in marriage than the previously promiscuous group. My personal example was one counterexample.
By the way, I would guess that premarital sex among Christians was usually more with the later spouse or at least in the end very few partners, not really wild Chad lifestyle.

Beautiful people get to enjoy the benefits without being punished.
Ok, I get this: But if we agree that beauty in this world correlates with success, then they are again "obliged" to give....ok, I know you will propably not real satisfied by this answer.
There are many different things about which man accuses God and which he then answers, there is a separate biblical book, Job.
At least beauty and also success without end can be a big pitfall too. You win the world, become proud and enjoy life to the fullest without asking for God and finding Him and in the end you get lost.
"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?"

And the End God is God and is good. There are and will be poor people, who had suffered greater in this lif, whoe come to him and rich people, who had the whole world. And of both groups the rest, which will deny and mock God.

Heck God could have kept you from getting laid because he needed you specifically to be an incel so that some specific chain of events could happen so his prophecy would come to past, but no lets praise blindly praise him, your God betrayed you before you were even born, some of us were literally born to suffer for his sake

Please tell me how that is something worthy of thanks and worship
Even the secular world knows the concept of "change of perspective", but If you know the gift of forgiven sins, eternal life and his grace and love for you, you would not talk like that.
Besides this today I had a juicy pomegrenade , bread, water, air and sun, slow recovery after I had an infection.
 
Ok, I get this: But if we agree that beauty in this world correlates with success, then they are again "obliged" to give....ok, I know you will propably not real satisfied by this answer.
There are many different things about which man accuses God and which he then answers, there is a separate biblical book, Job.
At least beauty and also success without end can be a big pitfall too. You win the world, become proud and enjoy life to the fullest without asking for God and finding Him and in the end you get lost.
"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?"

And the End God is God and is good. There are and will be poor people, who had suffered greater in this lif, whoe come to him and rich people, who had the whole world. And of both groups the rest, which will deny and mock God.

Many beautiful people are religious though, you're suggesting that beauty drives one away from God. Not at all. A beautiful person is more likely to believe the world is fair and therefore believe in an all loving god.
 
JFL at those who still believe in that Irone Age deity!!!
@Personalityinkwell I think this video may interest you.
 
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