Givingup20
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That verse doesn't say anywhere that it's easy for poor people to get in... Lol at this narrow minded low iq analysis.
Idk why you put "truly repent" in quotation marks.
This is how I know you don't know what you're talking about because not sinning isn't what gets you into heaven.
Oh my god you sound such like a typical angsty teenager atheist edgelord......
Penance is one form of punishment and the video clearly implies there are other forms of punishment( rewatch the video carefully). What they are I do not know, I am not a Catholic so I am not well verse on this topic but I do know enough that God wouldn't allow folk without suffering some form of punishment which is said in the video if you bother to actually watch it....
There is no escaping punishment and the eternal punishment has be already been forgiven for all......
Deception implies intent. As one one cannot do evil or sin without intent one cannot deceive without intent. Deception is lying and lying is sin. Your words are therefore, nonsensical.....
I am insure that my claim that ISIS isn't Muslim isn't something I just pull from my ass. If you've bother to watch the video I linked
religiouscels will say they will burn in hell kek we incels are already living in hell
Not really. If you are gl you're more likely to commit sin
Please, do list them and we can go over them one by one.
I can't be angry at God when he has proved (implying he exists) that he is completely irrational and can't make a single good decision. Your average hobo would be better at running this world, and also if we go by the Abrahamic religions, he is supposed to be fair (yes, he may put you through tests to prove your faith to him) at least to his believers. Now, we just need to look at history and see how true that is. Spoiler: complete fucking delusion. So, here you are with me
Not an atheist, ironically I believe in a God, I just don't think he's magically "good" by defualt by virtue of being God, that's where I think most people fail, once you say that someone is good by virtue of their title then no matter what they do they are good and you will rationalize their actions as good. This is why people who are "staunchly religious" have a strong cognitive bias in seeing the contradictions and the evil of their God.
Which holds no relevance to your statement because you said - "God doesn't allow sinners to escape punishment." immediately after the video, so when you make a statement such as that, it implies that some specific methods will be explained. Isn't that convenient, you can just say - "Oh no, God is gonna getcha" and give no specifics and that makes you right. Are you seriously telling me you can't give me one damn example but I'm supposed to believe you lol.
Oh and look at how convenient that is, you can just say whatever bad things happen to X person in their life is "Gods Punishment" for their sins. You idiots are illogical, if someone dies you'll say - "God's taking them home, its their time", in an alternate universe THAT SAME PERSON LIVES INSTEAD and guess what that universes version of you says - "God saved them, he kept them from dying because he has a plan for them". You didn't know if either statement was true, but because you have no "litmus test" for whether God did something or not you can just assume whatever happened was what he willed to happen, its an argument of convenience idiot.
JFL this is what I'm talking about, same book, different interpretations, and every fuck thinks they're the one who knows what the book is really say, some say hell exists, others like you say nobody is going there. Like I said, these books are written like this so they can appeal to various mindsets, or the authors were idiots and weren't specific in their writings leading to all these various denominations and differences in interpretation.
I can see english isn't your first language........
Oh yeah retard, the random youtube video online is the greatest proof in existence for why its Jews behind ISIS and not muslims and the same Jews that own the site never thought to take down that video JFL. When I see some project veritas level proof with videos, leaked emails, etc then i'll believe you, some random BS video that you showed is nothing but a biased perspective with no actual proof. You can't say - "Oh you want proof, look at this youtube video" retard, how can you not get something that simple smh.
Doesnt matter if he enjoyed it. He'll burn for it. Its better to be non-degenerate period than being a former degenerate.Its like you didn't even read my post, of course you're more likely to commit sin, THAT'S THE POINT, you got to thoroughly enjoy sinning to the point where you are satisfied, so in your older years there isn't much yearning for it, its easier for chad to stop being degenerate and "settle down", because not only does he have his pick of the litter of wives, but he's already had his fill. Are there chads and normie males who cheat, of course, but there are many that feel no need to because for them "that was in the past".
Also please understand that in the Bible even fantasizing about sex is a sin, so were ironically not any better in God's eyes than Chad who actually gets to enjoy doing the sin. While they're doing it, were fantasizing about doing it, both parties are sinning.
Its Doesnt matter if he enjoyed it. He'll burn for it. Its better to be non-degenerate period than being a former degenerate.
Nah we wont. Fornication is a worse sin than thinking of sex lol. Not all sins are the sameYes and we'll burn for our unclean thoughts all the same lol, so who got the better deal. Were all degenerate in God's eyes, the guy whose been in orgies, and the guy who is so sexually repressed he thinks about orgies and masturbates to porn, both may end up in hell BUT ONLY ONE ACTUALLY GOT TO ENJOY HIMSELF.
Stop coping.
Nah we wont. Fornication is a worse sin than thinking of sex lol. Not all sins are the same
Its pretty much the same with all religions and their doctrine when it relates to matters of a sexual nature.Not everyones a catholicfag
No shit, and I never said it did, water is wet, are we playing the state the obvious game or is this just an attempt at a strawman?. I only stated that it meant it was harder for rich people to get in, which is obviously false if you just look at who is more likely to have to commit crimes to survive. Nice try at a strawman, stop doing that shit, I think I remember you always doing this when we argue, please quote me where I say the bible says ITS EASY FOR POOR PEOPLE TO GET INTO HEAVEN, I know I said the bible says ITS HARDER FOR RICH PEOPLE TO GET INTO HEAVEN.
Jesus said that because the prevailing view is that if you are poor, IT'S OGRE. If you are rich, you can chill, you won't sin and you can donate to church. After Jesus said that verse his disciples said "Who then can be saved?", they didn't say "Oh we're not rich, it's cool" lol.
finally questions instead of strawman arguments, by "truly repent" I mean to actually make a change in your life afterwards, a permanent change, not the kind of repent most christians do today where they just go on to do that very same sin again willy nilly. Maybe I used the wrong words to string together.
One would think that my words immediately after that phrase would make obvious what I meant by the phrase - "and never commit those sins ever again, while a poor person will have to sin everyday and repent endlessly as they steal to simply be able to buy food and clothing"
Actually based on the laws of the bible, theoretically if someone was born and died before ever committing a sin, lets say a baby that dies after exiting the womb, they are definitely going to heaven, for you to argue otherwise would be retarded. The only reason that you are technically correct with this statement is because the laws of God are so strict and all encompassing that it is impossible not to sin if you life a "full life", simply thinking about sex is a sin.
That's another thing that makes me laugh, because how then did Jesus not sin, did he never think about having sex?
Wrong actually, not all sins are the same, quite obviously, but fornication and masturbation are along the same lines, both are sins that don't really have a "direct negative impact" like murder or theft, they are both "victimless sins".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_sin
Its basically all the same to God, masturbation and fornication are BOTH "mortal sins"
"The following is a partial list of actions that are defined as constituting a grave matter by the Catechism of the Catholic Church or like sources (such as declarations by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Apostolic Letters, or other sources printed by Church authorities)."
"Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and homosexual practices."
Brutal based truthOP is moderately right inasmuch as loserdom can aggravate vice. For this reason vice and failure used to be linked in old folks tales. The more desperate a man is, the harder it will be for him not to sin.
ThisAbrahamic religion is opposed to incels getting anything out of life. In the tale of gilgamesh, the hairy incel enkidu got a temple slut to make him more 'human'. It worked to a degree. He still was no match for the chad Gilgamesh, but he at least scored some puss. Temple prostitution was considered a religious rite and a service to get closer to the gods.
Then comes along Abrahamic religion and bans prostitution, magical rituals, most forms of secular learning and art, and drug and alcohol consumption. We are further away from the divine because of this blemish on humanity. Everyone, including incels, were better off under paganism.
I will admit, that the kind of temptations will be different (for the incel: envy, hate, lethargy..., for the chad: pride, lust), butYour God has practically almost set in stone that he's sent you to hell, even before you were born and were being formed in the womb, because by being unattractive God has set you up for a life where you will be "chasing sin and degeneracy" into your old age, while Chad and Stacey have already "sowed their wild oats" and thoroughly enjoyed degeneracy and are now moving on to living a "Godly Life".
I will go ER in Heaven
Lol low iq ranting about political arabs and isis thinking that's true Islam. Not all of us are terrorists
I will reply to you, although I don't think that I can change your view instantly.Christians are typically stupid, but you have to be mentally handicapped to be incel and Christian at the same time.
How can incel Christcucks believe in an all-good, all-powerful, all-wise god when their faces are so f-king ugly? If they had higher IQ's, they'd be using the pages of the holy bible for toilet paper, which is the only thing that nonsense is good for.
the "so called Godly Life" does not erase your sins, only the blood of Jesus
Yes, which a sexually satisfied person is more likely to gain access to, you are more likely to feel shame and disgust with an act that you've "had your fill of", because your shame will surpass your yearning for it, for incels it will likely be the opposite even into their 50's, we'll still be "playing the field" into our 40's, while Chad is "settling down" in his mid 30's, that's my point
You know what's funny. Jesus talks about giving away money if you're rich, but he never mentions giving away good looks, because its impossible. Being beautiful is the most precious thing in the world, and that's why acid attacks are so feared, because they destroy the most precious thing there is.
I get your point, but on the other side it doesn't match up fully with at least my experience.
The Old Testament mentions as mainly immaterial blessings also the beautiful wife and beautiful daughters, but in books of proverbs much more the good wife besides other things like wisdom, fertility, health, long life, friendship, a good son and also superficially material ones like land, property, armies, children, women, animals, cattle and sheep and agricultural yields in quantity.
The first two mentions of beauty, of course of women, in the Bible are associated with sinful events. First the interbreeding of extraterrestrial gigachads with the beautiful daughters of mankind and second the beef between Abram and Pharao about probably life and death about his beautiful wife Sara.
Since Jesus New Covenant is more spiritual these things all take a lower role in his kingdom. The only times about outwards appearance he spoke of the "whitewashed tombs" of the pharisees and the beatiful temple, from which he said "there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down."
Why are there several cases of women who complain of their suffering due to their infertility but not of men who complain of their inceldom due to their ugliness? So why the eternal God assesses the topic of physical beauty differently than humans (especially humans today) and does not pay attention to it, cannot be fully clarified in the end. Perhaps it is like many trivial things not included in scriptire. Does he not want to tell us the pink elephant in the room? Is God the forerunner of Blue Pill? I think not. Maybe he has a very different view of beauty, especially after the most beautiful creature he ever created, Lucifer, became so rebellious and evil and fell so deeply to Satan. Why should all the things that he created very well but today corrupted by sin, be any different when it comes to evaluating people, even the SMV? One note: Even in these OT times, also sinful times, the relationship dynamics between men and women were completely different. Women were property without much rights and arranged marriages.
To your knowledge:
Yes, since beauty is hard to share or give away, there's little point in asking for it. But Jesus did call on the rich not to become proud, just as one can also apply it to the beautiful.
In Christ all became and are one. The women and men, the masters and slaves, the Gentiles and Jews, the ugly and the beautiful, the rich and poor.
Point is that rich people have an advantage but are morally obligated to give away their wealth or they might be punished for being greedy. Beautiful people get to enjoy the benefits without being punished. Nice job by God there
dosen't matter i will go ER infinite timesBut there's infinite respawns in heaven.
dosen't matter i will go ER infinite times
dosen't matter i will go ER infinite times
this is by far the worst thread i have ever seen in this site since i made an account here.If man commits evil he will pay.god is just and he will not see the unjust go unscathed.
Exodus 7:13-14 King James Version (KJV)
13 And he hardened Pharaoh's heart, that he hearkened not unto them; as the Lord had said.
14 And the Lord said unto Moses, Pharaoh's heart is hardened, he refuseth to let the people go.
God is a manipulative psychopath
But the majority of inhabitants of jannah are poor people. They will enter first, and Christianity is not even the right religion, is cucked, Jesus only came for the children of israel, the bible has changed throughout history becoming a man made book basically, the likes of our great scholars like Ahmed deedat expose and destroyed Christian pastors in debates. Also the church doesn't even follow the bible, one of your books forbid alcohol yet some Christians drink alcohol in the churches, the teaching of the church is different from the bible
Here's my Ahmed deedat (rip) cleaning up these fools in debates
Other guys like dr Zakir naik that are masters in comparative religion have won many debates and answered so many questions
Also your statement is flawed people who sinned at young age will have very hard time getting on track since they have been damaged spiritually causing it sometimes to be permanent, but you can keep coping. So many ugly subhuman Muslims that are out there happy and living peaceful and content lives.
JFL you pointed out something important that I didn't even think of, watch christfags minds explode trying to rationalize this BS
Also an ironic little loophole that opens up from this, is that someone can pour their wealth into their looks (surgeries, treatments, etc) and that way they can benefit from their looks without consequence and give whatever they have to spare as charity afterwards
hey, I didn't say that, though where I come from - one of the most atheistic regions in the world, albeit in the western world - it will still be somewhat different from the USA. Anyone who is a Christian here is usually also serious about it.You must live in some remote village or something, I'd ask where you got an internet connection to use this website, because most Christians today have ACTIVE SEX LIVES WAY BEFORE MARRIAGE, so maybe your experience includes you not even interacting or talking to other people
Ok, I get this: But if we agree that beauty in this world correlates with success, then they are again "obliged" to give....ok, I know you will propably not real satisfied by this answer.Beautiful people get to enjoy the benefits without being punished.
Even the secular world knows the concept of "change of perspective", but If you know the gift of forgiven sins, eternal life and his grace and love for you, you would not talk like that.Heck God could have kept you from getting laid because he needed you specifically to be an incel so that some specific chain of events could happen so his prophecy would come to past, but no lets praise blindly praise him, your God betrayed you before you were even born, some of us were literally born to suffer for his sake
Please tell me how that is something worthy of thanks and worship
Ok, I get this: But if we agree that beauty in this world correlates with success, then they are again "obliged" to give....ok, I know you will propably not real satisfied by this answer.
There are many different things about which man accuses God and which he then answers, there is a separate biblical book, Job.
At least beauty and also success without end can be a big pitfall too. You win the world, become proud and enjoy life to the fullest without asking for God and finding Him and in the end you get lost.
"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?"
And the End God is God and is good. There are and will be poor people, who had suffered greater in this lif, whoe come to him and rich people, who had the whole world. And of both groups the rest, which will deny and mock God.