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IncelForever22

IncelForever22

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Since some of you speak of futurist stuff like full dive vr, sexbots etc. Let's talk about what you want in the future that would satisfy an incel. Mind Uploading into a matrix where you can be God ? Waiting for gender or looks to become neutral ? DNA bioengineering ? Cyborg stuff ? Full dive VR ? Sexbots ?
 
Genetic engineering, that will make me have better health, teeth etc.

Society waking up about sex inequality

Superintelligent AI that helps incels and destroys femoids and chads (not likely at all, not even that scenario but just creating an AI more intelligent than humans, seems more than 1000 years away... or maybe it will happen in the next 20 years, who knows)

And best of all: a device where everyone can upload their consciousness and live a better life, regardless of if they are God in that life or not
 
There won't be any future that will satisfy us.

We are unwanted and unneeded, this will get worse in the future. As time goes by and all forms of labour (mental and physical) get automated, undesirable men will become even less wanted and needed than they are now. Becoming a wagecuck or betabuxx is redundant when a machine can do your job for you. Even if your UBI buxx get you all the futuristic pleasures money can buy in the future, your complete separation from the power process and over-firing your dopamine receptors on cheap VR entertainment will give you severe depression which can only be fixed by brain-melting SSRIs.

You are being replaced, the only upside is that the little cubicle the economic elites will allow you to have, which you are almost surely going to die alone on the floor of surrounded by piss bottles and chef boyardee cans, has some neat VR and a fleshlight with an animatronic woman attached to it. Being optimistic about that is either being deluded or being a cope. You are fucked.
 
Since some of you speak of futurist stuff like full dive vr, sexbots etc. Let's talk about what you want in the future that would satisfy an incel. Mind Uploading into a matrix where you can be God ? Waiting for gender or looks to become neutral ? DNA bioengineering ? Cyborg stuff ? Full dive VR ? Sexbots ?
I hope there is a cheaper better ll and spinel device in the future to cure my manletism
 
As a futurist-transhumanist my ultimate goal is mind uploading and immortality as a god in my own world. That would be ideal. Until then self driving cars and replacing my limbs and organs with cybernetic alternatives seems much cooler
 
All this futurist shit won't happen, most people in the last ~50 years have thought they would be the generation to get all of it, they've all been wrong
 
Genetic engineering, that will make me have better health, teeth etc.

Society waking up about sex inequality

Superintelligent AI that helps incels and destroys femoids and chads (not likely at all, not even that scenario but just creating an AI more intelligent than humans, seems more than 1000 years away... or maybe it will happen in the next 20 years, who knows)

And best of all: a device where everyone can upload their consciousness and live a better life, regardless of if they are God in that life or not

lmao why would AI help genetic garbage? Lemme give you an excerpt from a book that talks about how fucked useless and undesirable people will be in the future.

In view of all this, it is patently absurd to suppose that the technological world-system is ever going to provide seven billion human beings with everything they need to stay alive indefinitely. If the projected immortality were possible at all, it could only be for some tiny subset of the seven billion-an elite minority. Some techies acknowledge this.One has to suspect that a great many more recognize it but refrain from acknowledging it openly, for it is obviously imprudent to tell the public that immortality will be for an elite minority only and that ordinary people will be left out. The techies of course assume that they themselves will be included in the elite minority that supposedly will be kept alive indefinitely. What they find convenient to overlook is that self-prop systems, in the long run, will take care of human beings-even members of the elite-only to the extent that it is to the systems' advantage to take care of them. When they are no longer useful to the dominant self-prop systems, humans-elite or not-will be eliminated. In order to survive, humans not only will have to be useful; they will have to be more useful in relation to the cost of maintaining them-in other words, they will have to provide a better cost-versus-benefit balance-than any non-human substitutes. This is a tall order, for humans are far more costly to maintain than machines are. It will be answered that many self-prop systems-governments, corporations, labor unions, etc.-do take care of numerous individuals who are utterly useless to them: old people, people with severe mental or physical disabilities, even criminals serving life sentences. But this is only because the systems in question still need the services of the majority of people in order to function. Humans have been endowed by evolution with feelings of compassion, because hunting-and-gathering bands thrive best when their members show consideration for one another and help one another. As long as self-prop systems still need people, it would be to the systems' disadvantage to offend the compassionate feelings of the useful majority through ruthless treatment of the useless minority.

More important than compassion, however, is the self-interest of human individuals: People would bitterly resent any system to which they belonged if they believed that when they grew old, or if they became disabled, they would be thrown on the trash-heap. But when all people have become useless, self-prop systems will find no advantage in taking care of anyone. The techies themselves insist that machines will soon surpass humans in intelligence. When that happens, people will be superfluous and natural selection will favor systems that eliminate them-if not abruptly, then in a series of stages so that the risk of rebellion will be minimized.

Even though the technological world-system still needs large numbers of people for the present, there are now more superfluous humans than there have been in the past because technology has replaced people in many jobs and is making inroads even into occupations formerly thought to require human intelligence. Consequently, under the pressure of economic competition, the world's dominant self-prop systems are already allowing a certain degree of callousness to creep into their treatment of superfluous individuals . In the United States and Europe, pensions and other benefits for retired, disabled, unemployed, and other unproductive persons are being substantially reduced; at least in the U. S, poverty is increasing; and these facts may well indicate the general trend of the future, though there will doubtless be ups and downs.

It's important to understand that in order to make people superfluous, machines will not have to surpass them in general intelligence but only in certain specialized kinds of intelligence. For example, the machines will not have to create or understand art, music, or literature, they will not need the ability to carry on an intelligent, non-technical conversation (the "Turing test" 123), they will not have to exercise tact or understand human nature, because these skills will have no application if humans are to be eliminated anyway. To make humans superfluous, the machines will only need to outperform them in making the technical decisions that have to be made for the purpose of promoting the short-term survival and propagation of the dominant self-prop systems. So, even without going as far as the techies themselves do in assuming intelligence on the part of future machines, we still have to conclude that humans will become obsolete.
 
Some sort of surgery technology that lets you fix your subhumanity in one click and it would cost less than $1000
 
All this futurist shit won't happen, most people in the last ~50 years have thought they would be the generation to get all of it, they've all been wrong
yeah but 50 years ago they still didn't had all the shit we have now.
 
All this futurist shit won't happen, most people in the last ~50 years have thought they would be the generation to get all of it, they've all been wrong
Except everything is accelerating. Also people like Kurzweil are getting their predictions proven correct but with just ten years of lag time, @Fontaine knows quite a bit about this and uses it as a cope.
 
yeah but 50 years ago they still didn't had all the shit we have now.
The people in the 70s were saying that about the people in the 20s

Except everything is accelerating. Also people like Kurzweil are getting their predictions proven correct but with just ten years of lag time, @Fontaine knows quite a bit about this and uses it as a cope.
Kurzweil is coping even more than Fontaine on this because Kurzweil is older and closer to death probably, like I said none of this shit will happen. AI is so far off of this singularity bs that you might as well not even bother wasting the energy thinking and coping with it

I think the most complex shit AI has done so far is with quake 3 arena and dota 2, even then they had to use basic skeletons of the original games for the AI to learn them
 
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The people in the 70s were saying that about the people in the 20s


Kurzweil is coping even more than Fontaine on this because Kurzweil is older and closer to death probably, like I said none of this shit will happen. AI is so far off of this singularity bs then you might as well not even bother wasting the energy thinking and coping with it


And again, accelerationism might happen. Don't take it for granted tho.
 
The future will be a worse version of the present. More people, less resources. Technologies will progress, but in small ways. Faster processors, better cameras, faster drones. Some automation etc...

We'll work more and more for less and less.
 
Technologies will progress, but in small ways. Faster processors, better cameras, faster drones. Some automation etc...
Yeah this is all that will happen, nothing exciting like people are naively hoping for in this thread
 
Kurzweil is coping even more than Fontaine on this because Kurzweil is older and closer to death probably, like I said none of this shit will happen. AI is so far off of this singularity bs then you might as well not even bother wasting the energy thinking and coping with it
No matter how hard he is coping, his predictions have still been proven right with a decade delay. I'm far from coping with the singularity and even I reckon he's right. You think he's wrong about his predictions just because he's probably coping, you have poo for an IQ.
 
Any future reality in which I am a multi-billionaire and I can just disappear with the body of any Stacy who rejects me.
 
All this futurist shit won't happen, most people in the last ~50 years have thought they would be the generation to get all of it, they've all been wrong
This is accurate; I have read an article in a French magazine from the 1960s where "geometric technological progress" was already discussed with great optimism.

However, progress that has been slower than expected is progress that happened nevertheless, and now serves as a secure, consolidated foundation for future increments. It is illogical in general to dismiss a possibility just because predictions of its timing were wrong in the past. An analogy would be the end of life on Earth; it was announced, erroneously, many times in history. But science has now established without a doubt that it is indeed going to happen, if only because of the death of the Sun.
 
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Sex robots fo sho
 
No matter how hard he is coping, his predictions have still been proven right with a decade delay. I'm far from coping with the singularity and even I reckon he's right. You think he's wrong about his predictions just because he's probably coping, you have poo for an IQ.
This Kurzweil guy has poo for an IQ, not me

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JFL at the fear of death cope
 
The future will be a worse version of the present. More people, less resources. Technologies will progress, but in small ways. Faster processors, better cameras, faster drones. Some automation etc...

We'll work more and more for less and less.
I can't even begin to fathom the weird sequences of reasoning that lead to such a conclusion. Most likely, it's the depression speaking.
 
I can't even begin to fathom the weird sequences of reasoning that lead to such a conclusion. Most likely, it's the depression speaking.
How is the future supposed to get better when all it offers for us is shinier copes, and cope is something you do until you rope?
 
Kurzweil is coping even more than Fontaine on this because Kurzweil is older and closer to death probably, like I said none of this shit will happen. AI is so far off of this singularity bs that you might as well not even bother wasting the energy thinking and coping with it

I think the most complex shit AI has done so far is with quake 3 arena and dota 2, even then they had to use basic skeletons of the original games for the AI to learn them
It doesn't really matter whether Kurzweil is right or not (though in general, his critics haven't read him and are far lower IQ than him). What matters is that we objectively have the tools to increment on already existing technology with no foreseeable limit, as long as effort is put into it.
I don't need to because someone has already disproved this retard's """predictions""":

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkn...for-2009-were-mostly-inaccurate/#4563e7dc3f9a
These critics have been established as erroneous. The reporter nitpicked definitions and played on words. Kurzweil has kicked his ass later on.

As to "retard" Kurzweil, only on the internet can an asshole nobody criticize in such a way someone who has accomplished so much over the course of his life, and won several national awards.
 
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I don't need to because someone has already disproved this retard's """predictions""":

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkn...for-2009-were-mostly-inaccurate/#4563e7dc3f9a
The article gives Kurzweil points for being half-right about processing power (which is just trailing behind his predictions by a little bit), his issues are mostly with predicting the consequences of technology and not seeing certain specific barriers to its advancement (like speech recognition).

He's not right, but that just means what he's going on about is delayed, not put on hold. As young men I think there is a good chance it isn't delayed beyond our lifetimes anymore, and when something like a computer getting more processing power than a human brain happens prepare for human obsolescence to swallow everything at an accelerating rate. I expect it to happen while we're either aging or old and frail.
 
However, progress that has been slower than expected is progress that happened nevertheless, and now serves as a secure, consolidated foundation for future increments
Not in our lifetimes tho, which was my original point
 
Not in our lifetimes tho, which was my original point
It's just as irrational to dismiss the possibility as to be certain of it. There's no way to know how things will unfold as of today.
 
40% chance the singularity happens in our lifetime.
It took 4 fucking years for an AI to master quake 3 ctf, which is the least complex mode in quake 3. It's gonna take way longer for AI to become sentient if it keeps going at its current snail pace. Your percentage is way too optimistic.
 
It took 4 fucking years for an AI to master quake 3 ctf, which is the least complex mode in quake 3. It's gonna take way longer for AI to become sentient if it keeps going at its current snail pace. Your percentage is way too optimistic.
An AI mastering the game of Go wasn't expected before at least 20 years by AI experts, you fucking retard. If that's not encouraging, what else do you want?

Depressedbros who piss on AI are usually impatient petulant children. They're offered stuff that wasn't even dreamed about a few years ago, but no, this is not enough! Now that you have given them the sugar, they will chew your arm off because they wanted ten sugars immediately. Learn fucking patience.
 
An AI mastering the game of Go wasn't expected before at least 20 years by AI experts, you fucking retard. If that's not encouraging, what else do you want?
Go is like 100x less complex than quake 3 or dota 2... none of this is encouraging and you must be retarded yourself if you think it is, unless you want this singularity to happen after you're dead, which is illogical

Depressedbros who piss on AI are usually impatient petulant children. They're offered stuff that wasn't even dreamed about a few years ago, but no, this is not enough! Now that you have given them the sugar, they will chew your arm off because they wanted ten sugars immediately. Learn fucking patience.
Have you invested all of your bitcoin shekels into this or something? You're getting so mad over just a pipedream it's hilarious
 
Go is like 100x less complex than quake 3 or dota 2... none of this is encouraging and you must be retarded yourself if you think it is, unless you want this singularity to happen after you're dead, which is illogical
You couldn't even play Go yourself, you miserable little retard... You couldn't even understand the rules. How dare you speak in such a way about intelligence.
Have you invested all of your bitcoin shekels into this or something? You're getting so mad over just a pipedream it's hilarious
I'm just getting tired of depressedbros who think cynicism is an adequate substitute for reading books and thinking.
 
You couldn't even play Go yourself, you miserable little retard... You couldn't even understand the rules. How dare you speak in such a way about intelligence.
No cause I was playing a decent game like Quake 3 when it was popular faggot, enjoy wasting your time on shitty boardgames with old men, a top Quake player like Rapha or Cooller could easily IQ mog every single poster on this forum
 
No cause I was playing a decent game like Quake 3 when it was popular faggot, enjoy wasting your time on shitty boardgames with old men
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Good argument Mr High IQ
I never pretended that I was high IQ. You did, on the other hand, by pretending to be unfazed by such achievements as winning against a Go world champion.
 
I'm waiting for improved euthanasia techniques.
 
You did, on the other hand, by pretending to be unfazed by such achievements as winning against a Go world champion.
I never said I was unfazed, I said it was 100x less complex than those other games. You have said you read books in this thread, yet your reading comprehension is dogshit
 
I never said I was unfazed, I said it was 100x less complex than those other games. You have said you read books in this thread, yet your reading comprehension is dogshit
Whatever man. Enjoy your lack of copes.
 
I've worked with computers and programming my entire life and I'm not impressed with AI, everywhere I look I see small isolated problems being treated, no effort or plan to bring it all together, no grand unification theory, no nothing, just algorithms, a bunch of videogames that play themselves and pictures that draw themselves when the end result is already known. it makes me feel like other upheavals could/will be more important.
 
As a futurist-transhumanist my ultimate goal is mind uploading and immortality as a god in my own world. That would be ideal. Until then self driving cars and replacing my limbs and organs with cybernetic alternatives seems much cooler
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