Blackpill Three Key Events That Led To The Dismantling Of My Ego (My Path To Nihilism) - The Universe Was Relentless In Black Pilling Me

[BlkPillPres]

1. This was before I graduated to go on to university. I used to think of myself as someone who was pretty smart, in fact I took pride in it, I took pride in being known as one of the "top smart guys" in class, well my pride in my intelligence was destroyed in two phases, the first I didn't even notice because I ignored it, the 2nd was undeniable and it kind of killed all of my academic motivation

1.1 - I studied really hard to get to the top of the class only to be beaten by a guy who barely studied at all (based on his own words) because he had photographic memory (I think this is one of my most significant experiences about the unfairness of genetics)

1.2 - After the first year or so at university I started to realize how average I was, over time tbh my motivation began to dwindle and others seemed to be able to carry on and pass exams like it was nothing, probably because they had social lives, but still, there were a lot of smart guys there and I started to realize that if I kept competing in the realm of intelligence and didn't seek out alternatives or loopholes I'd be stuck never getting anything I want


2. I used to think I had a chance at dating, when I arrived at university I decided to "make a change", I went all out, I was more outgoing, I did a lot of approaching, etc. IT DID NOT MATTER, I am literally cringing right now writing this shit because I always flash back to the memories of the shit I did JFL

The last straw was when I started trying to court this girl who was below my looks league at the time (started to feel the cringe again), she seemed autistic too, even more so than me, things were going alright and I tried to make a move and she flinched, she pulled away, that shit hit me hard, because at that moment it truly sunk in for me, that even if I tried to date really low down I'd still fail, all motivation to approach was killed for me after that, I just stopped trying, my academic performance went down from there too


3. One of my friends fucking killed himself, and he was somewhat of a normie that dated and had sex, that was the last fucking straw for me, because I realized that nothing in my life that I planned was secure, he was part of a trio of friends (myself included) and I always thought it was going to be the three of us (the other one was attending the same university with me, the friend that killed himself was about to start that year, we'd be together again like the old times)

I think it was then that I realized that there are no rules, everything I was told about life was a lie, all of these experiences together showed me this, and one of the most important lessons from this one specifically, is that YOU CANNOT PLAN YOUR LIFE AROUND OTHERS, YOU CAN ONLY PLAN YOUR LIFE AROUND YOURSELF

Making plans based on your expectations of others is a huge flaw, you are the only constant, everything else is a variable, only make plans FOR YOU that are dependent on ONLY YOUR PARTICIPATION, then decide if you are going to let others "come along for the ride" (if even at all)





Those three things together ended my life as a normie, there are a lot more experiences compounded together that black pilled me, but those three in particular I think truly shaped me, they left me no room to cope

I completely abandoned any sense of pride as I realized how useless it would be to someone like me who could only derive pain and shame from having an ego, I just let it go, the same way that someone with cancer would just let that shit go if they could simply will it out of existence

Once you let go of your ego, so too does your morality go along with it over time, because morality is rooted to ones ego, all moralfags are egoists, that's not a coincidence, morality is inherently an egotistical position, because it requires you to believe in a "higher standard" and to value yourself based on how well you adhere to it, and devalue others as beneath you based on them not adhering to it

Any sense of morality I had the first few months after all that shit, gone, it just faded away, I seriously didn't even have to try, once your perspective changes, and you stop seeing yourself as "a person" and rather as just the consciousness inhabiting your body, a collective force of wants and desires that can perceive existence, morality doesn't matter, nothing matters, all that exists is your consciousness and what pleases it, and that's all you need to seek out, everything else is a distraction


I seriously believe that anyone who hasn't abandoned their ego yet just hasn't truly been black pilled yet, there are still aspects of their "humanity" that they are holding onto because they just haven't faced the "trauma" necessary for them to stop accepting certain lies

As men raised in this modern era, we all have certain lies that we all accept as truth because we were raised to, but not only that, these lies are comfortable lies, they make existence seem more "magical" and "meaningful"

Once you've been fully black pilled, you'll notice that you no longer cling to any of the things you were raised to think, you are a completely different "person" to your blue pilled self, in fact its like you aren't even a "person" anymore, you're no longer chained to the concepts of "personage" that once bound you

A lot of you might read this and think of it as a sad story, but TBH I'm glad these events happened, they stopped me from becoming someone that my current self would truly resent, I can see clearly the path I was heading on, I would have definitely ended up some loser betabuxx, no doubt about it, working a dead end low pay job too

The black pill saved me, but boy was it a brutal awakening, I was left no room to cope, its kind of ridiculous, I had no pride to fall back on to cope, and one of my friends offed himself around the same time (some months after) as my rejection from the girl beneath my looks league (well she was at the time), its like I was left no option but to accept the black pill, I had nowhere to retreat to mentally, I even started to think God was directly fucking with me JFL (if he exists maybe he was)

 

[Words2_live_bye]

I was led to nihilism at such an early age
since 17 and i have yet to come out of it
20 now and still like that

 

[Deleted member 22572]

I was led to nihilism at such an early age
since 17 and i have yet to come out of it
20 now and still like that

I'm 17 now

 

[Deleted member 23981]

Why did u freind kill himself?

 

[FlyFace]

Once you've been fully black pilled, you'll notice that you no longer cling to any of the things you were raised to think, you are a completely different "person" to your blue pilled self, in fact its like you aren't even a "person" anymore, you're no longer chained to the concepts of "personage" that once bound you

I was never brought up as Human anyway.. my parents consider me more Burden than Human.

I completely abandoned any sense of pride as I realized how useless it would be to someone like me who could only derive pain and shame from having an ego, I just let it go, the same way that someone with cancer would just let that shit go if they could simply will it out of existence

It is funny because my ego wouldn't allow me to give in for the longest time. I wanted desperately to believe the lies. I can safely say I do not believe them now.

 

[Deleted member 26140]

the other one was attending the same university with me, the friend that killed himself was about to start that year, we'd be together again like the old times

Oof, right in the feels

 

[FlyFace]

I was led to nihilism at such an early age
since 17 and i have yet to come out of it
20 now and still like that

I was bullied since I was 10. Abused throughout the early education system. Years of torment at Elementary, High School and College. University was filled with Human garbage.

 

[Words2_live_bye]

I was bullied since I was 10. Abused throughout the early education system. Years of torment at Elementary, High School and College. University was filled with Human garbage.

yeah same ngl but i never went to college

 

[FlyFace]

One of my friends fucking killed himself,

My "friends" never came to my aid. I. Have. No. Friends. It is a horrible feeling.

yeah same ngl but i never went to college

My parents forced me to do it. I hated every second but I couldn't stand their disappointment. My parents love my sister so much more anyway. They hardly talk to me at all. But with my sister they could spend half an hour to an hour of talking. With me I'd be lucky to get half a minute to a minute.

 

[Rassisten]

 

[BlkPillPres]

Why did u freind kill himself?

JFL as if normies who do this ever had valid reasons, the guy was tall, had multiple girl friends over years, actually had sex, and was about to start university

This is why I'm glad I was never a weak hearted person, I cared before but I never cared enough that I was an "emotional person", its weak hearted people that kill themselves at the slightest hint of trouble in life, his life was great in comparison to mine

Another thing to, I don't think people that kill themselves realize they are basically insulting the people around them who have visibly worse lives

Its like saying - "Why haven't you killed yourself yet, my life was better than yours"

They are also saying - "Your companionship wasn't enough to keep me from killing myself"

The act of suicide is rife with inherent insults to the people that you leave behind, I feel really bad for his parents, its a huge insult to your parents

I was never brought up as Human anyway.. my parents consider me more Burden than Human.

You have some kind of condition/defect?

My "friends" never came to my aid. I. Have. No. Friends. It is a horrible feeling.

Don't take it to heart, tbh I don't care about friendship anymore because I realized its one of those things were raised to believe in from birth, its another aspect of our indoctrination, it makes you think that in life you aren't alone, but were all alone, friendship, family, etc they are all illusions, a bullet goes into your brain right now, its just you that dies, when you go to sleep its just your consciousness that temporarily fades out of existence, the world goes on no matter what happens to you BECAUSE WERE NOT "ALL CONNECTED" like people like to go around saying

In life its just you, you in a way are lucky to learn that ahead of time, people like me have to learn harsh realities later in life

Everybody likes to have the cliche - "but I'm glad I made those memories" response, I think its BS, I'm not glad, I'd much rather have known from the start and been my current self now, but I guess it had to happen this way else I would doubt the black pill, had I not "lived on both sides", I would not truly know which side is the most honest, which world view is the most accurate, I had to see the lies for myself, this is why I know for a fact nothing could change my world view now

Friendship is a waste of time, you don't need friends, you need resources, you need a feeling of security in life, friends come and go in life, this is a norm, but the knowledge, skills and resources to build in life stay with you for a lifetime, my time would have been better spent building skills at a young age, but I wasted a lot of those years playing video games and dreaming up a life with me and my friends, I can't get those years back, I can only work now and hope to change my life, and make up for lost time

 

[TheReaper]

2. I used to think I had a chance at dating, when I arrived at university I decided to "make a change", I went all out, I was more outgoing, I did a lot of approaching, etc. IT DID NOT MATTER, I am literally cringing right now writing this shit because I always flash back to the memories of the shit I did JFL

I can relate to this.
I wish I could erase all the memories of my uni period,faking a normie personality was so embarassing.

 

[happiless]

all that exists is your consciousness and what pleases it

Mostly unproductive things please my consciousness though. Other than cooming, what pleases me is watching anime and other distractions. To be able to participate in society I need to do what doesn't please me. I agree that reducing your ego is helpful for us though. As a genetic failure, having an ego is counterintuitive. But I haven't managed to have no ego whatsoever, either because my IQ isn't high enough to achieve it or because ego death is a meme.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I can relate to this.
I wish I could erase all the memories of my uni period,faking a normie personality was so embarassing.

TBH the way I look at it, all my memories exist in a "super position", they are only cringy now because I haven't reached what I would consider success, if I can wealthmaxx successfully those will be memories I can look back on and laugh off rather than cringe

Were all basically in that "super position" (like Schrodinger's cat)

Where our memories of failure are both worth having and not worth having at the same time

For me the worth of a memory is not determined by the memory itself, but by the future in which one is looking back on the memory, because that changes the context of the memory

We can make our cringe memories go from being events in a series of failures in life, or the pathetic experiences we learned from in our past life of failure

These memories would be things we value then

 

[Deleted member 23981]

JFL as if normies who do this ever had valid reasons, the guy was tall, had multiple girl friends over years, actually had sex, and was about to start university

This is why I'm glad I was never a weak hearted person, I cared before but I never cared enough that I was an "emotional person", its weak hearted people that kill themselves at the slightest hint of trouble in life, his life was great in comparison to mine

Another thing to, I don't think people that kill themselves realize they are basically insulting the people around them who have visibly worse lives

Its like saying - "Why haven't you killed yourself yet, my life was better than yours"

They are also saying - "Your companionship wasn't enough to keep me from killing myself"

The act of suicide is rife with inherent insults to the people that you leave behind, I feel really bad for his parents, its a huge insult to your parents




You have some kind of condition/defect?




Don't take it to heart, tbh I don't care about friendship anymore because I realized its one of those things were raised to believe in from birth, its another aspect of our indoctrination, it makes you think that in life you aren't alone, but were all alone, friendship, family, etc they are all illusions, a bullet goes into your brain right now, its just you that dies, when you go to sleep its just your consciousness that temporarily fades out of existence, the world goes on no matter what happens to you BECAUSE WERE NOT "ALL CONNECTED" like people like to go around saying

In life its just you, you in a way are lucky to learn that ahead of time, people like me have to learn harsh realities later in life

Everybody likes to have the cliche - "but I'm glad I made those memories" response, I think its BS, I'm not glad, I'd much rather have known from the start and been my current self now, but I guess it had to happen this way else I would doubt the black pill, had I not "lived on both sides", I would not truly know which side is the most honest, which world view is the most accurate, I had to see the lies for myself, this is why I know for a fact nothing could change my world view now

Friendship is a waste of time, you don't need friends, you need resources, you need a feeling of security in life, friends come and go in life, this is a norm, but the knowledge, skills and resources to build in life stay with you for a lifetime, my time would have been better spent building skills at a young age, but I wasted a lot of those years playing video games and dreaming up a life with me and my friends, I can't get those years back, I can only work now and hope to change my life, and make up for lost time

damn I guess i could say im lucky i found the blackpill

 

[BlkPillPres]

But I haven't managed to have no ego whatsoever

Not having an ego isn't something you "manage" like its something you stumble upon or it just happens, its something YOU DECIDE

You have to decide that you are worthless and there is nothing special about you that you should value yourself as "better than others" in, its not rocket science, are you saying its impossible for you to not see yourself as "special" despite the failure of a life you've lived

I find it funny that incels of all people find it so hard to abandon their egos, we literally have nothing to be proud of, were genetic failures

Mostly unproductive things please my consciousness though

So your libido is dead then?

You aren't going to get laid being "unproductive" (you need money and resources), and maybe you are young and don't get it yet, but porn is going to get boring at some point, it always feels like its the best thing ever for a while, but it gets old after a few years, think about it, all those years watching other people have sex, don't you think you're going to wake up one day and want to try it yourself

 

[Deleted member 10124]

I got ed after I saw how life operates including numerous examples.

Then I felt vindicated. After the & purple pill crap.

I knew that life was & is unfair. I don't have to be silent about that. I don't have to be dictated "to be just a good person". Etc. Just an example.

Now I can bask in my knowledge & happiness of the doing what the fuck I want. When I want. Where I want. No ego to keep me in bondage & chains.

 

[SUFFARI]

even if I tried to date really low down I'd still fail

This is when you know it's genuinely over. Even the lowest of the absolute low won't have me, if you realise that and keep trying it's like playing chess with only a King. GG from the start

 

[Deleted member 10124]

Fucking brutal story though.

I hate a with a vengeance those scum who lived the life of Riley & then decided to off themselves all because it got a little bit difficult.

Walk a mile in my shoes mother fucker.

 

[happiless]

So your libido is dead then?

You aren't going to get laid being "unproductive" (you need money and resources), and maybe you are young and don't get it yet, but porn is going to get boring at some point, it always feels like its the best thing ever for a while, but it gets old after a few years, think about it, all those years watching other people have sex, don't you think you're going to wake up one day and want to try it yourself

I'm in my late 20s so it's lower but not dead. Fapping once a day gives some pleasure still, but it's more of a chore to counteract depression from not having a foid. Besides I'm a virgin so I don't know what I'm missing out on. Though I'll pay for a whore eventually, my chances of experiencing sex as a young adult (as intended) are long gone. All I can do is to try to hold a job in order to earn money for my autistic copes

 

[BlkPillPres]

I'm a virgin so I don't know what I'm missing out on

If you watch porn you know exactly what you're missing out on, you don't have to directly experience something to know its something you want, its the same reason your mouth waters when you see tasty food you've never tried before, you don't need to taste it to know its something you really want

 

[Simulacrasimulation]

1. This was before I graduated to go on to university. I used to think of myself as someone who was pretty smart, in fact I took pride in it, I took pride in being known as one of the "top smart guys" in class, well my pride in my intelligence was destroyed in two phases, the first I didn't even notice because I ignored it, the 2nd was undeniable and it kind of killed all of my academic motivation

1.1 - I studied really hard to get to the top of the class only to be beaten by a guy who barely studied at all (based on his own words) because he had photographic memory (I think this is one of my most significant experiences about the unfairness of genetics)

1.2 - After the first year or so at university I started to realize how average I was, over time tbh my motivation began to dwindle and others seemed to be able to carry on and pass exams like it was nothing, probably because they had social lives, but still, there were a lot of smart guys there and I started to realize that if I kept competing in the realm of intelligence and didn't seek out alternatives or loopholes I'd be stuck never getting anything I want


2. I used to think I had a chance at dating, when I arrived at university I decided to "make a change", I went all out, I was more outgoing, I did a lot of approaching, etc. IT DID NOT MATTER, I am literally cringing right now writing this shit because I always flash back to the memories of the shit I did JFL

The last straw was when I started trying to court this girl who was below my looks league at the time (started to feel the cringe again), she seemed autistic too, even more so than me, things were going alright and I tried to make a move and she flinched, she pulled away, that shit hit me hard, because at that moment it truly sunk in for me, that even if I tried to date really low down I'd still fail, all motivation to approach was killed for me after that, I just stopped trying, my academic performance went down from there too


3. One of my friends fucking killed himself, and he was somewhat of a normie that dated and had sex, that was the last fucking straw for me, because I realized that nothing in my life that I planned was secure, he was part of a trio of friends (myself included) and I always thought it was going to be the three of us (the other one was attending the same university with me, the friend that killed himself was about to start that year, we'd be together again like the old times)

I think it was then that I realized that there are no rules, everything I was told about life was a lie, all of these experiences together showed me this, and one of the most important lessons from this one specifically, is that YOU CANNOT PLAN YOUR LIFE AROUND OTHERS, YOU CAN ONLY PLAN YOUR LIFE AROUND YOURSELF

Making plans based on your expectations of others is a huge flaw, you are the only constant, everything else is a variable, only make plans FOR YOU that are dependent on ONLY YOUR PARTICIPATION, then decide if you are going to let others "come along for the ride" (if even at all)





Those three things together ended my life as a normie, there are a lot more experiences compounded together that black pilled me, but those three in particular I think truly shaped me, they left me no room to cope

I completely abandoned any sense of pride as I realized how useless it would be to someone like me who could only derive pain and shame from having an ego, I just let it go, the same way that someone with cancer would just let that shit go if they could simply will it out of existence

Once you let go of your ego, so too does your morality go along with it over time, because morality is rooted to ones ego, all moralfags are egoists, that's not a coincidence, morality is inherently an egotistical position, because it requires you to believe in a "higher standard" and to value yourself based on how well you adhere to it, and devalue others as beneath you based on them not adhering to it

Any sense of morality I had the first few months after all that shit, gone, it just faded away, I seriously didn't even have to try, once your perspective changes, and you stop seeing yourself as "a person" and rather as just the consciousness inhabiting your body, a collective force of wants and desires that can perceive existence, morality doesn't matter, nothing matters, all that exists is your consciousness and what pleases it, and that's all you need to seek out, everything else is a distraction


I seriously believe that anyone who hasn't abandoned their ego yet just hasn't truly been black pilled yet, there are still aspects of their "humanity" that they are holding onto because they just haven't faced the "trauma" necessary for them to stop accepting certain lies

As men raised in this modern era, we all have certain lies that we all accept as truth because we were raised to, but not only that, these lies are comfortable lies, they make existence seem more "magical" and "meaningful"

Once you've been fully black pilled, you'll notice that you no longer cling to any of the things you were raised to think, you are a completely different "person" to your blue pilled self, in fact its like you aren't even a "person" anymore, you're no longer chained to the concepts of "personage" that once bound you

A lot of you might read this and think of it as a sad story, but TBH I'm glad these events happened, they stopped me from becoming someone that my current self would truly resent, I can see clearly the path I was heading on, I would have definitely ended up some loser betabuxx, no doubt about it, working a dead end low pay job too

The black pill saved me, but boy was it a brutal awakening, I was left no room to cope, its kind of ridiculous, I had no pride to fall back on to cope, and one of my friends offed himself around the same time (some months after) as my rejection from the girl beneath my looks league (well she was at the time), its like I was left no option but to accept the black pill, I had nowhere to retreat to mentally, I even started to think God was directly fucking with me JFL (if he exists maybe he was)

Mostly high IQ post however some costructive points :

point regarding link of ego and morality is fatally flawed
morality is inherently an egotistical position, because it requires you to believe in a "higher standard" and to value yourself based on how well you adhere to it, and devalue others as beneath you based on them not adhering to it

i contend that if your objective to a fault and seek truth not just in others and yourself, you can simultaneously let go of your ego, but also hold onto morality. I will qualify this, if a person holds objective truth as a constant not just for others but oneself, your judgement of right and wrong and thus morality is APPLIED TO ONESELF OBJECTIVELY CONSTANTLY IN THE SAME MANNER AS IT IS APPLIED TO OTHERS. If you hold yourself to an external standard of morality this does not mean it is a higher standard but the CORRECT OR TRUE STANDARD OF MORALITY WHICH IS A HARD FACT OR CODE OF ETHICS.

This brings a further problem abandoning morality and fallacy of chasing solely "all that exists is your consciousness and what pleases it, and that's all you need to seek out, everything else is a distraction".

This is akin to the debase liberalisation of society we have been working our way towards now this century, i have my bill of rights my personal liberty to make as many mistakes as i want.
So with this abandonment of the religion of morality, you have swapped this for the religious cult of personal liberty, where do the freedoms end, what is the framework this freedom exists within what controls, literally anyone can do anything they want because they want to, this cant work and ill explain why.

Look at women now, this freedom this liberation has literally cause the breakdown of our society, because they have aquired increasing unfettered liberty to exercise every whim they have with decreasing controls on their freedom. Liberty to do as you want is a dangerous concept if it is unfettered and unrestricted undefined, much of the discrimination men are experiencing now is because of muh wahmens freedoms and "liberty", a particular sex or group gains freedom, another part of society has their liberty destroyed and their quality of lfe destroyed due to the others "freedoms".

 

[BlkPillPres]

i contend that if your objective to a fault and seek truth not just in others and yourself, you can simultaneously let go of your ego, but also hold onto morality

One cannot be both objective and moral, because morality often requires that one reject objective decision over subjective ones for the sake of "being good"

For example if you find a brief case full of money next to a dead body in an alleyway at night:
The MORAL thing to do would be to call the police and leave the money there

The OBJECTIVE (LOGICAL) thing to do would be to take the brief case and don't call the police at all

Anything in-between (taking all or some of the money AND calling the police) is that person being an illogical hypocrite and trying to play both sides, they'd be BOTH IMMORAL AND ILLOGICAL (NOT OBJECTIVE)

Your entire argument is you FALSELY CONFLATING RIGHT (AS IN ACCURATE) AND RIGHT (AS IN "GOOD")

THEY AREN'T THE SAME THING

So with this abandonment of the religion of morality, you have swapped this for the religious cult of personal liberty, where do the freedoms end, what is the framework this freedom exists within what controls, literally anyone can do anything they want because they want to, this cant work and ill explain why.

It can work on a personal level, you are speaking as if I should give a fuck about society or life on this planet I don't, and the way you are speaking about this topic makes it clear you are a moralfag, especially since you are conflating objectivity with morality, they are two seperate things, one cannot be both objective and moral, because objectivity has to do with what is logical, what is beneficial, morality often demands that one sacrifice their desires and what is beneficial to them "for the greater good" WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE ARGUING RIGHT NOW

 

[Simulacrasimulation]

One cannot be both objective and moral, because morality often requires that one reject objective decision over subjective ones for the sake of "being good"

For example if you find a brief case full of money next to a dead body in an alleyway at night:
The MORAL thing to do would be to call the police and leave the money there

The OBJECTIVE (LOGICAL) thing to do would be to take the brief case and don't call the police at all

Anything in-between (taking all or some of the money AND calling the police) is that person being an illogical hypocrite and trying to play both sides, they'd be BOTH IMMORAL AND ILLOGICAL (NOT OBJECTIVE)

Your entire argument is you FALSELY CONFLATING RIGHT (AS IN ACCURATE) AND RIGHT (AS IN "GOOD")

THEY AREN'T THE SAME THING



It can work on a personal level, you are speaking as if I should give a fuck about society or life on this planet I don't, and the way you are speaking about this topic makes it clear you are a moralfag, especially since you are conflating objectivity with morality, they are two seperate things, one cannot be both objective and moral, because objectivity has to do with what is logical, what is beneficial, morality often demands that one sacrifice their desires and what is beneficial to them "for the greater good" WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE ARGUING RIGHT NOW

The first point is false you have equivilated two things which do not belong in the same space, this statement is false and the metaphor you used doesnt work:

For example if you find a brief case full of money next to a dead body in an alleyway at night:
The MORAL thing to do would be to call the police and leave the money there
The OBJECTIVE (LOGICAL) thing to do would be to take the brief case and don't call the police at all
Anything in-between (taking all or some of the money AND calling the police) is that person being an illogical hypocrite and trying to play both sides, they'd be BOTH IMMORAL AND ILLOGICAL (NOT OBJECTIVE)


You have tied objective which by definition is not subjective so is a search for truth an objective truth, and have tied it to logical, this is a truism and follows logically.
However there is this tremendous leap in which logical then leaps to doing something completely self serving, narcisstic and objectively immoral. This a presposterous leap, for one you have made logic analogous with immoral acts and complete self indulgance, you have literally made logic completely personal. The only way it is logical is only to a sperg who thinks as a narcissist, it is not objectively logical to the whole of society, because you win they lose, you broke the law, you abandoned ethics. what if everyone acted as immorally as this, what would happen to society, is that logical, no.

what i mean by objective morality is that morality has a SET OF RULES TO FOLLOW WHICH ARE OBJECTIVE.
EG KANTIAN ETHICS EG IT IS NOT THE ACTION YOU DO THAT IS THE POINT OF ETHICS IT IS THE OUTCOME OF YOUR ACTION IS GOOD EG DOES NO HARM TO OTHERS AND PROTECTS OTHERS FROM HARM.
THIS AN OBJECTIVE SET OF RULES IN WHICH EVERYONE EVEN YOURSELF SHALL BE HELD UP TO.
Also I am paraphrasing these are just a few of ethics and ethical laws but they are pretty much set in stone this is why they are objective and can be applied to most situation you will ever encounter.

EG IN YOUR EXAMPLE:
The act of taking the money and don't call the police if we hold this up to the objective set of rules of morality, rule number 1 don't harm other people driectly or indirectly, and treat others as you would wish to be treated.
so your trying to tell me that you would want to be objectively left by the side of the road and your money stolen by a stranger, this is crap and doesnt work in any world of ethics.
Also exploding your point about ego, where is the ego in this i have literally stripped it down and your literally just following this code of ethics which is objectively informing your behaviour situationally, your literally following a code of ethics and thats it no ego required at all a computer if it knew the code folows it like a line of code to any given situation if these conditions are met do this dont do this in comparison to the code of ethics.

Its like in terminator 2 when arnie was instructed not to kill, john connor imbued in the machine the ethical consideration to NOT KILL IN ANY SITUATION, its the same thing but way more nuanced.

 

[BlkPillPres]

However there is this tremendous leap in which logical then leaps to doing something completely self serving, narcisstic and objectively immoral

I know this is going to be hard for a moralfag to understand but, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "OBJECTIVE MORALITY"

THAT'S AN OXYMORON

You keep using circular reasoning and asserting an "objective morality", it doesn't exist, its completely subjective, there is nothing about the act of killing someone that is inherently bad, we had to do it all the time years ago just to survive, "murder" is just something humans came up wit to preserve order, it doesn't exist, there is not "right" or "wrong", no "good" or "bad", only cause and effect, actions and reactions, nothing else

what if everyone acted as immorally as this, what would happen to society, is that logical, no.

You are again falsely conflating morality and logic, what is "collectively beneficial" has nothing to do with what is logical, objectivity happens on the personal level not the "community level", by your logic it isn't logical for billionaires to hoard all of the money they made to themselves so in order to be "logical" they have to just give it out to random fucks who need it, that's not logical, that's an emotional argument

Other people don't fucking matter, the idea that "other people matter" is a moral/subjective stance

Now I'm done arguing 1+1=2, believe what you want, but its OBJECTIVELY false, your feelings don't matter, your emotions don't matter, your morals don't matter, you can keep telling yourself they do all you want, they don't and they never will

 

[Simulacrasimulation]

I know this is going to be hard for a moralfag to understand but, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "OBJECTIVE MORALITY"

THAT'S AN OXYMORON

You keep using circular reasoning and asserting an "objective morality", it doesn't exist, its completely subjective, there is nothing about the act of killing someone that is inherently bad, we had to do it all the time years ago just to survive, "murder" is just something humans came up wit to preserve order, it doesn't exist, there is not "right" or "wrong", no "good" or "bad", only cause and effect, actions and reactions, nothing else



You are again falsely conflating morality and logic, what is "collectively beneficial" has nothing to do with what is logical, objectivity happens on the personal level not the "community level", by your logic it isn't logical for billionaires to hoard all of the money they made to themselves so in order to be "logical" they have to just give it out to random fucks who need it, that's not logical, that's an emotional argument

Other people don't fucking matter, the idea that "other people matter" is a moral/subjective stance

Now I'm done arguing 1+1=2, believe what you want, but its OBJECTIVELY false, your feelings don't matter, your emotions don't matter, your morals don't matter, you can keep telling yourself they do all you want, they don't and they never will

wrong your using herr derr circular arguement theory to justify your lack of morality
ethics can be APPLIED TO ANY SITUATION THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF ETHICS MORON

OBJECTIVE MORALITY IS MY WAY OF SAYING KANTIAN ETHICS IYTS THE SAME THING IT IS OBJECTIVE READ WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN
HOW DO YOU USE YOUR REVERSED LOGIC TO GET OUT OF THESE OBJECTIVE MORAL AND ETHICAL TRUISMS, WHICH CAN BE APPLIED TO EVERYONE NOT JUST YOURSELF:
EG KANTIAN ETHICS EG IT IS NOT THE ACTION YOU DO THAT IS THE POINT OF ETHICS IT IS THE OUTCOME OF YOUR ACTION IS GOOD EG DOES NO HARM TO OTHERS AND PROTECTS OTHERS FROM HARM.

YOU CANT AND YOU DEFLECTED NOT EVEN ADDRESSING THESE POINTS BECAUSE YOUR SCREWED.
Your definition of logic and objectivity itself IS THE BIGGEST OXYMORON, they are completely incompatible, you have not defined logic in what area mathematical logic, logic is not just floating around applied arbitrarily to every sitaution what logic in what field, unless you want to jerryrig a big concept and just apply it to your own whim to support your own view.

LOGIC ONLY EXISTS IN THE REALM OF A SET OF RULES TO FOLLOW EG COMPUTER LOGIC, MATHEMATICAL LOGIC, I AM MERELY TALKING ABOUT ETHICAL LOGIC IN THE SAME TERMS, LOGIC AS COMPARED TO IN ADHERANCE TO THESE ARBITRARY NON CHANGING ETHICAL RULES JUST LIKE MATHEMATICAL LOGIC IS ONLY COMPARED TO NON CHANGING MATHEMATICAL RULES.

IF IT CAN ONLY BE APPLIED TO YOURSELF AND BE LOGICAL AND TO YOU ONLY, IT IS BY DEFINITON A SUBJECTIVE TRUTH AND A SUBJECTIVE LOGIC, THIS IS LITERALLY THE DEFINITION OF NOT OBJECTIVE AND COMPLETE SPERG

YOU ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO PROJECT BULLSHIT AND FOR ME TO SWALLOW THIS PREPOSTEROUS TURD, SO YOU CAN ESCAPE BEING IMMORAL AND JUSTIFY YOUR PETTY HERR DERR I DO WHAT I WANT FUCK THE CONSEQUENCES TO EVERYONE ELSE, LIBTARD ANGLE.

WHICH BY THE WAY IS THE VERY SAME "LOGIC" AS THE SJW ARE ROLLING WITH SO GO AND JOIN THE FUCKING MARCH INTO VALHALLA

 

[BlkPillPres]

wrong your using herr derr circular arguement theory to justify your lack of morality

The projection of an illogical moralist, people like me don't seek out justification, I do what I want because it benefits me, not because I think I "deserve it" or I am "justififed"

Such mundane mental restrictions are for poor fools like yourself who finds comfort in these chains as it makes you feel "special", do enjoy patting yourself on the back for living up to some standard, I'm sure it will help you improve your life, heck you'll probably get laid soon for being so moral

Could you please for your own sake stop formatting your messages in such a retarded fucking way, you know full well it makes people not want to read it, like come on

It just makes it feel like you are trolling

 

[WhorfianCel]

I literally can't read Simulacrasimulation's posts correctly, the formatting is so illegible.

 

[Simulacrasimulation]

So you are immoral as again no addressing any of my many points exploding your "logic", so why post a completely retarded post devoid of the logic you pertain to be sticking to.

If everyone had your "logic" we would be absolutely fucked with no laws reigning in "freedoms", and the strong completely subjugating the weak in a return to the state of nature shift, which by definition would increase discrimination against amongst other INCELS.

I adhere to this ethical code and way of thinkng, because until now every other system is completely bent AND PARADOXICAL, and gets reduced to your preposterous herr derr muh freedom without any wider thinking about the network effect of this freedom.

unfortunately i dont have a sub zero iq , so i intensely think about these matters, abdication of your responsibility is a shit move whatever way you slice the pie, PAL

 

[Deleted member 21219]

1. This was before I graduated to go on to university. I used to think of myself as someone who was pretty smart, in fact I took pride in it, I took pride in being known as one of the "top smart guys" in class, well my pride in my intelligence was destroyed in two phases, the first I didn't even notice because I ignored it, the 2nd was undeniable and it kind of killed all of my academic motivation

1.1 - I studied really hard to get to the top of the class only to be beaten by a guy who barely studied at all (based on his own words) because he had photographic memory (I think this is one of my most significant experiences about the unfairness of genetics)

1.2 - After the first year or so at university I started to realize how average I was, over time tbh my motivation began to dwindle and others seemed to be able to carry on and pass exams like it was nothing, probably because they had social lives, but still, there were a lot of smart guys there and I started to realize that if I kept competing in the realm of intelligence and didn't seek out alternatives or loopholes I'd be stuck never getting anything I want


2. I used to think I had a chance at dating, when I arrived at university I decided to "make a change", I went all out, I was more outgoing, I did a lot of approaching, etc. IT DID NOT MATTER, I am literally cringing right now writing this shit because I always flash back to the memories of the shit I did JFL

The last straw was when I started trying to court this girl who was below my looks league at the time (started to feel the cringe again), she seemed autistic too, even more so than me, things were going alright and I tried to make a move and she flinched, she pulled away, that shit hit me hard, because at that moment it truly sunk in for me, that even if I tried to date really low down I'd still fail, all motivation to approach was killed for me after that, I just stopped trying, my academic performance went down from there too


3. One of my friends fucking killed himself, and he was somewhat of a normie that dated and had sex, that was the last fucking straw for me, because I realized that nothing in my life that I planned was secure, he was part of a trio of friends (myself included) and I always thought it was going to be the three of us (the other one was attending the same university with me, the friend that killed himself was about to start that year, we'd be together again like the old times)

I think it was then that I realized that there are no rules, everything I was told about life was a lie, all of these experiences together showed me this, and one of the most important lessons from this one specifically, is that YOU CANNOT PLAN YOUR LIFE AROUND OTHERS, YOU CAN ONLY PLAN YOUR LIFE AROUND YOURSELF

Making plans based on your expectations of others is a huge flaw, you are the only constant, everything else is a variable, only make plans FOR YOU that are dependent on ONLY YOUR PARTICIPATION, then decide if you are going to let others "come along for the ride" (if even at all)





Those three things together ended my life as a normie, there are a lot more experiences compounded together that black pilled me, but those three in particular I think truly shaped me, they left me no room to cope

I completely abandoned any sense of pride as I realized how useless it would be to someone like me who could only derive pain and shame from having an ego, I just let it go, the same way that someone with cancer would just let that shit go if they could simply will it out of existence

Once you let go of your ego, so too does your morality go along with it over time, because morality is rooted to ones ego, all moralfags are egoists, that's not a coincidence, morality is inherently an egotistical position, because it requires you to believe in a "higher standard" and to value yourself based on how well you adhere to it, and devalue others as beneath you based on them not adhering to it

Any sense of morality I had the first few months after all that shit, gone, it just faded away, I seriously didn't even have to try, once your perspective changes, and you stop seeing yourself as "a person" and rather as just the consciousness inhabiting your body, a collective force of wants and desires that can perceive existence, morality doesn't matter, nothing matters, all that exists is your consciousness and what pleases it, and that's all you need to seek out, everything else is a distraction


I seriously believe that anyone who hasn't abandoned their ego yet just hasn't truly been black pilled yet, there are still aspects of their "humanity" that they are holding onto because they just haven't faced the "trauma" necessary for them to stop accepting certain lies

As men raised in this modern era, we all have certain lies that we all accept as truth because we were raised to, but not only that, these lies are comfortable lies, they make existence seem more "magical" and "meaningful"

Once you've been fully black pilled, you'll notice that you no longer cling to any of the things you were raised to think, you are a completely different "person" to your blue pilled self, in fact its like you aren't even a "person" anymore, you're no longer chained to the concepts of "personage" that once bound you

A lot of you might read this and think of it as a sad story, but TBH I'm glad these events happened, they stopped me from becoming someone that my current self would truly resent, I can see clearly the path I was heading on, I would have definitely ended up some loser betabuxx, no doubt about it, working a dead end low pay job too

The black pill saved me, but boy was it a brutal awakening, I was left no room to cope, its kind of ridiculous, I had no pride to fall back on to cope, and one of my friends offed himself around the same time (some months after) as my rejection from the girl beneath my looks league (well she was at the time), its like I was left no option but to accept the black pill, I had nowhere to retreat to mentally, I even started to think God was directly fucking with me JFL (if he exists maybe he was)

Good read. Losing ego is what makes most men cucks though.

 

[Deleted member 22999]

I almost had a friend kill himself last year. My other friend and I called his parents and they stopped him from roping. It would be brutal if it actually happened tbh, and he is the biggest sexhaver of all my friends too. I relate to the academic part too though. I think I’m pretty dmart but I get outperformed grade wise by vapid npc’s. Its ragefuel that no matter what I do photographic memory carries people so hard.

 

[Animecel2D]

I literally can't read Simulacrasimulation's posts correctly, the formatting is so illegible.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I literally can't read Simulacrasimulation's posts correctly, the formatting is so illegible.

Dude I think he's a troll and he's trying to do a "sarcastic" parody of me, its the only thing that makes sense, he can't actually believe that what he's doing is readable or even remotely good formatting

Losing ego is what makes most men cucks though.

How so?, give an example

 

[Deleted member 25707]

Good post, but how do I loose my ego?
Also about the friends part, I don't have any but I desire friendship. How do I get rid of this feeling? How do I embrace loneliness and solitude ? I fear failures, do you think loosing my ego would make me more nihilist?

If I can achieve that than I'd definitely go the MGTOW route once and for all.

 

[AutistCell]

i dont normally read long posts but im glad i read this one

blackpillbased

 

[ColdLightOfDay]

A lack of morality (amorality) and abject immorality are totally different though. I think we agree on the utility of ego death but I do not understand how anyone can still have an appetite for revenge i.e. going ER against random normies you have no association with, and still claim to not have an ego.

Ego death is fantastic as a principle, and I use it to cope constantly, but it is impossible to realise it to 100% absolution, the closest you can get are people like Buddhist monks or Diogenes, these people aren’t exactly vengeful. I don’t see how you can admonish morality due it’s egocentrism (a criticism I mostly agree with btw) and can then commit the hypocrisy of venerating an abject immorality which is based solely on satisfying your ego and exercising vengeance against the world for its refusal to recognise you as you see yourself. What could be more egocentric than that? Perhaps I’ve missed something obvious in what you’ve said, because this really seems quite obvious to me and I don’t think you’re dumb.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I do not understand how anyone can still have an appetite for revenge i.e. going ER against random normies you have no association with, and still claim to not have an ego

I find that this is a common argument and its nothing but a false dichotomy of "you either have an ego or you don't feel anger"

It literally makes no sense, you have a physical body, you have self awareness, not having an ego is completely seperate from feeling pain, pleasure, etc and your awareness of others causing you pain or pleasure

By your logic, if someone has no ego, they shouldn't want to do anything good for anyone either, they wouldn't donate to charity and help some random people either, right?

It doesn't work like that, this argumentation is based off of the false premise that your ego is you, your ego isn't you, your ego is what you think of yourself, you are a collection of memories, your ego is what you think of those memories as they relate to you

One doesn't stop feeling stimuli because they simply stop thinking about how said stimuli relates to their existence, hate still exists, anger still exists, lust still exists, hunger still exists

Take your line of argumentation further and next you'll argue if someone has no ego they shouldn't have a libido

You are falsely conflating ego with "sense of self", ego is how one "rates"/judges their sense of self, that sense of self exists independent of your rating/judgement, it exists whether you "rate"/judge it or not

the closest you can get are people like Buddhist monks or Diogenes, these people aren’t exactly vengeful

Those individuals were moralists though, also this is just more appeal to authority nonsense, who the hell decided these guys are the arbiters of any of this

Its very easy to conflate no ego with giving up physical enjoyment when you have religious beliefs, that's the difference, they have a religious pretext determining how they define ego, and for them it means giving up material possessions and resigning themselves to a life of suffering

That literally has nothing to do with your ego

I don’t see how you can admonish morality due it’s egocentrism (a criticism I mostly agree with btw) and can then commit the hypocrisy of venerating an abject immorality which is based solely on satisfying your ego and exercising vengeance against the world for its refusal to recognise you as you see yourself

1. You are again using a false dichotomy and you don't even realize it, concepts like revenge, anger, hatred aren't OWNED by egoists and therefore anyone who feels or desires them is an egoist, you are arguing with a false premise to begin with

Again, does lust and feelings of sexual desire exist outside the ego?, Yes, obviously yes, your physical body is separate from your psychology. So why are you speaking as if anger and hate are tied exclusively to your ego and has nothing to do with biology

Any creature that deems something a threat will have feelings of anger towards it, society and its members are a threat to me, why shouldn't I hate them?

2. Nice strawman, you are using circular reasoning here, you are already asserting within your argument that my perspective is egotistical for an argument that is about deciding whether it is so, you've already presupposed you are right within the argument, so why bother even make the argument, its just disingenuous, you've already decided what you were going to think to begin with

You are really just projecting, especially when you said - "vengeance against thr world for its refusal to recognize you as you see yourself"

I don't "see myself" as anything special, I simply want what I want, I know this is going to be a hard concept for a moralfag egoist to understand, BUT ONE DOES NOT HAVE TO FEEL LIKE THEY DESERVE SOMETHING TO WANT IT, I DON'T THINK I DESERVE ANYTHING, I DON'T CARE, I JUST WANT WHAT I WANT

I know this is going to go in one ear and out the other, because people like you can't comprehend simply wanting, because everything you want you think its something you deserve, that's exactly what being an egoist is, I want things regardless of thinking I deserve them, no different than a lion kills its prey not because it thinks its "owed" its prey as food, it just wants to eat it

 

[WizardofSoda]

If you had been better looking & smarter you would be some wage-cuck making $100k a year just barely getting by.. with a wife who hated you and sad she didn't get a Chad.

You would be working big hours hard right now so another wage-cuck didn't replace you.

 

[ColdLightOfDay]

You are falsely conflating ego with "sense of self", ego is how one "rates"/judges their sense of self, that sense of self exists independent of your rating/judgement, it exists whether you "rate"/judge it or not

Your sense of self and how you ‘rate / judge’ your sense of self can only be separated within the realm of conscious thought, within your subconscious (where most of your cognitive processes actually take place) they are more or less the same thing. You're making the mistake of assuming that your desires are born within the cognition of your conscious mind (the area in which you have supposedly suppressed your ego) and thus have no relation to your ego whatsoever, when in fact most of the neural processes that eventually lead you to the conscious experience of having desires are firing in the primitive areas of your brain, well beneath the ones that project the sphere of conscious experience in which you are capable of experiencing said desires and “rate/judging” yourself rationally. Although we can rationalise ourselves into acting less egotistical in an immediate moment, your ego is, for the most part, a subconscious projection, a summation of your neuro-genealogy and life conditioning, and that is where your desires and emotions stem from. Your desire to inflict suffering on the world is a reflection of your subconscious ego having been hurt as a result of being excluded or bullied by those it perceives to be against it, this is why this desire for revenge is so commonly held among incels - although of course some people are just born with a sadistic disposition as a result of their physiological neurology, that is still a manifestation of the ego, the only reason that forcefully exerting one’s will over another (be that in a sexual, or mortal context) would be in any way pleasurable is precisely because it is an indulgence of the ego, what other reason could satisfaction be derived from elevating yourself above others or deescalating them beneath you other than an egocentric one that pertains to your status / position relative to theirs?

Emotions and desires aren’t simply manifestations of the conscious mind, they are innately tied to the subconscious ego and would scarcely exist without it. They are surface level conscious experiences that are born out of the subconscious workings of an ego, this is psychology 101. Part of ego death is realising this and understanding that your desires are absurd, irrational and merely an imaginary dangling carrot projected by your subconscious as a way to keep you in motion, fulfilling them doesn’t necessarily equate to happiness (though being deprived from fulfilling them does often contribute to unhappiness). I think you are using definitions inaccurately, this is what nihilism actually is, an inability to see meaning in anything, you have attached ultimate meaning to the pursuit of pleasure and that is called hedonism, it may have been born out of a nihilistic dissolution with the world but it is not ultimately nihilism (though in most cases it does lead back there eventually.)

Why are you speaking as if anger and hate are tied exclusively to your ego and has nothing to do with biology

Any creature that deems something a threat will have feelings of anger towards it, society and its members are a threat to me, why shouldn't I hate them?

Anger and hatred are the semantic description for the conscious experience of cortisol on the brain. Cortisol serves as the hormonal motivator for human action. You hate society and its members because you consider them ‘a threat to you’, but they are a threat to your ego and pride rather than to you yourself, that is why they engender an influx of cortisol which makes you feel anger towards them and that is why in your mind killing them at random will bring you satisfaction even when it has no practical end, you have not reduced the threat they pose to you by doing that, in fact you’ll have increased it exponentially, only pride and the ego can motivate someone to act so irrationally.

I don't "see myself" as anything special, I simply want what I want, I know this is going to be a hard concept for a moralfag egoist to understand, BUT ONE DOES NOT HAVE TO FEEL LIKE THEY DESERVE SOMETHING TO WANT IT, I DON'T THINK I DESERVE ANYTHING, I DON'T CARE, I JUST WANT WHAT I WANT

I always laugh when you accuse me of this because it is totally at odds with what I actually believe and I have explained that to you multiple times now. I do not feel the need to have earned something in order to enjoy it because it scratched some unsatisfied egotistical itch within me, I am merely pointing out that, regardless of whether or not you have any pride in the accomplishment, an ice cold glass of lemonade will taste better if you have walked across an arid desert for it than if you have sat on your ass drinking lemonade all day and merely poured yourself another - that is the end point culmination of unfettered hedonism, the hedonic treadmill speeds up until the behaviour becomes compulsive and is no longer satisfying. Understanding that reality has absolutely nothing to do with pride or egotism and it’s honestly silly that you still accuse me of that at this point.

 

[BlkPillPres]

an ice cold glass of lemonade will taste better if you have walked across an arid desert for it than if you have sat on your ass drinking lemonade all day and merely poured yourself another

You are making a false comparison here, of course drinking after walking across a desert will feel better, that's because you are PHYSICALLY drained, you are falsely comparing this to some kind of mental satisfaction, which is complete bullshit, eating any meal is obviously better if done when starving then just "kinda hungry", that's not the same as enjoying a meal because you feel like you "worked hard for it", that "feeling" is nothing but a placebo, the response you talk about with reference to a desert (dehydration) is something that actually exists, its not just in your mind, its physical

I always laugh when you accuse me of this because it is totally at odds with what I actually believe

How the fuck is it at odds with what you believe when you literally are comparing mental satisfaction based on "accomplishment" to physical satisfaction due to retifying a kind of "starvation". Your words tell a different story than what you claim they are saying, you clearly do have an ego based standard of satisfaction based on that comparison

It doesn't make sense to compare the feeling of "accomplishment" to the feeling of satiating starvation, its quite literally not the same thing, and if you do think it is, its because you are in fact an egoist. I've never once enjoyed something more because I felt like I "worked for it" (not after being black pilled), that's placebo based nonsense. I have enjoyed food more because I was PHYSICALLY STARVING though, its not the same thing, one has to have an ego to derive satisfaction from a sense of accomplishment, satiating starvation is not achieving an accomplishment, and your analogy seems to be making such a ridiculous claim

 

[CopingJim]

can heavily relate

 

[AlexanderTheGreat11]

I still have an ego

 

[Yerberito]

I still have an ego

 

[Deleted member 36123]

I am literally cringing right now writing this shit because I always flash back to the memories of the shit I did JFL

Just fuckin stop. Cringe is a fuckin nonsense. You are putting yourself down and if you show that you cringe about your past self to other people they might use against you that. Also cringe is shaming and shaming is just bullshit manipulation tool to toss you around like they want

Be cringeless. I think people cringe 'cause they compare themselves to what is acceptable. Fuck what is acceptable. Be violent.

One of my friends fucking killed himself

Sorry for your loss. Rest in Paradise. All dogz go to Heaven

 

[nambog]

You know, university really is the decisive moment in which way your life will go. That is the crossroad between climbing in life or falling down the spiral into complete irrelevance and ego death. You could sense it before with high school, or maybe middle school (I'm british, just speaking for the yank audience) but it never really hits how worthless you are until you get to university.

 

[RebornMordred26]

I would like to add my story to this thread, I think it will serve as a reflection from the OP's post.

So I survived two types of cancer before I was 10 years old. It left me at 5.4ft "tall" and bald from nine years old.

I did terrible in high school and university, in terms of grades. I hate myself now for doing as poorly as I did. I was an ostracised social outcast from 8 fucking years old. I did everything by myself, from teaching myself to read at five years old to finishing group assignments in my Econ degree, etc. My father worked 60-hour weeks, and a stroke disabled my mother in my last year of high school, making me her primary carer.

I missed out on primary school because of the cancer treatment, In high school, I played video games with the other nerds and in university, I couldn't stand being there for longer than a tutorial. But here I am, a software engineer making six digits after I worked like a dog and still do.

And I'm okay with that, I'm alone and ostracised, fine. I'm a KHHV, fine. I won't have a family or have female companionship, cool whatever.

The thing that really invokes my hatred is the audacity of people, whether it be foids or nomies, to even speak of oppression or being disadvantaged because of x traits brings my blood to a boil. These human pieces of garbage think they understand even an ounce of what it is like to receive absolutely nothing for anyone, work your ass off, be equated to other pieces of shit, and then have the gall to suggest that you don't even deserve to "pull yourself up by your bootstraps". I fucking did it with nothing, I want nothing from anyone but by God, if there is any real justice in our universe, these people deserve absolute despair and damnation.

I have been called a skinhead at job interviews, I've been called "not a genius" at interviews for shitty jobs. I've been made fun of, bullied, ignored, ostracised, laughed at, pushed around, dealt with literal trash human beings. I keep going. I went from a D student in High School to a 4.0 GPA in a STEM master's because I gave one ounce of a fuck, got into an honor society and it means fuck all. Cool, whatever. I'm sure I could work my way into MENSA, not like anyone would care because I'm not a good fit or whatever.

Yet, if one motherfucker even tries to tell me I have no empathy or that I should value people, they can go fuck themselves.

I agree with the OP, humanity is fucking disgusting. They deserve the literal plague.

It is good to get this off my chest.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I would like to add my story to this thread, I think it will serve as a reflection from the OP's post.

So I survived two types of cancer before I was 10 years old. It left me at 5.4ft "tall" and bald from nine years old.

I did terrible in high school and university, in terms of grades. I hate myself now for doing as poorly as I did. I was an ostracised social outcast from 8 fucking years old. I did everything by myself, from teaching myself to read at five years old to finishing group assignments in my Econ degree, etc. My father worked 60-hour weeks, and a stroke disabled my mother in my last year of high school, making me her primary carer.

I missed out on primary school because of the cancer treatment, In high school, I played video games with the other nerds and in university, I couldn't stand being there for longer than a tutorial. But here I am, a software engineer making six digits after I worked like a dog and still do.

And I'm okay with that, I'm alone and ostracised, fine. I'm a KHHV, fine. I won't have a family or have female companionship, cool whatever.

The thing that really invokes my hatred is the audacity of people, whether it be foids or nomies, to even speak of oppression or being disadvantaged because of x traits brings my blood to a boil. These human pieces of garbage think they understand even an ounce of what it is like to receive absolutely nothing for anyone, work your ass off, be equated to other pieces of shit, and then have the gall to suggest that you don't even deserve to "pull yourself up by your bootstraps". I fucking did it with nothing, I want nothing from anyone but by God, if there is any real justice in our universe, these people deserve absolute despair and damnation.

I have been called a skinhead at job interviews, I've been called "not a genius" at interviews for shitty jobs. I've been made fun of, bullied, ignored, ostracised, laughed at, pushed around, dealt with literal trash human beings. I keep going. I went from a D student in High School to a 4.0 GPA in a STEM master's because I gave one ounce of a fuck, got into an honor society and it means fuck all. Cool, whatever. I'm sure I could work my way into MENSA, not like anyone would care because I'm not a good fit or whatever.

Yet, if one motherfucker even tries to tell me I have no empathy or that I should value people, they can go fuck themselves.

I agree with the OP, humanity is fucking disgusting. They deserve the literal plague.

It is good to get this off my chest.

First line in and your life is worse than mines, and you clearly worked harder than I did if you made it to the 6 figure range. I made a lot of mistakes so now I'm going to have to find an alternative path to financial success

Humanity really does need to be wiped out, as much as I want an enjoyable future for myself, if I could push a button and choose that future or push another and wipe out this species via a plague, I'd choose the plague even to my own detriment

At least you probably have some money to travel and afford a sex life (if you are willing to pay), I just want to get to that level one day

 

[RebornMordred26]

First line in and your life is worse than mines, and you clearly worked harder than I did if you made it to the 6 figure range. I made a lot of mistakes so now I'm going to have to find an alternative path to financial success

Humanity really does need to be wiped out, as much as I want an enjoyable future for myself, if I could push a button and choose that future or push another and wipe out this species via a plague, I'd choose the plague even to my own detriment

At least you probably have some money to travel and afford a sex life (if you are willing to pay), I just want to get to that level one day

I would have even more monetary freedom if I didn't need to pay for every single mother or welfare sponge who on average, has an easier (in terms of struggle) life than mine. With all the effort I put in, not only do I still get treated like shit, 40% of my income goes to taxes to pay for other people.

I've tried traveling before covid, every country I went to is the same garbage with a different paint job. People in socialist European countries are just as egotistical as people in the west. All this equality shit is one massive LARP.

Financial success is a scam, the harder you work, the more you are punished. The goal is a minimum effort for maximum return. You want to have enough passive income to live without working. Sacrifice today so you can rest tomorrow. Everyone is effectively out to fuck you and better themselves. Don't get involved in the socialite bullshit of fancy cars and big houses, or partying/substance abuse.

You can't become rich like Bezos or Musk anymore, those days and the conditions of the environment that allowed them to succeed are gone.

Cope with the struggle for the reward of potential peace of mind until you die. That is all that we have left here.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I would have even more monetary freedom if I didn't need to pay for every single mother or welfare sponge who on average, has an easier (in terms of struggle) life than mine. With all the effort I put in, not only do I still get treated like shit, 40% of my income goes to taxes to pay for other people.

I've tried traveling before covid, every country I went to is the same garbage with a different paint job. People in socialist European countries are just as egotistical as people in the west. All this equality shit is one massive LARP.

Financial success is a scam, the harder you work, the more you are punished. The goal is a minimum effort for maximum return. You want to have enough passive income to live without working. Sacrifice today so you can rest tomorrow. Everyone is effectively out to fuck you and better themselves. Don't get involved in the socialite bullshit of fancy cars and big houses, or partying/substance abuse.

You can't become rich like Bezos or Musk anymore, those days and the conditions of the environment that allowed them to succeed are gone.

Cope with the struggle for the reward of potential peace of mind until you die. That is all that we have left here.

Couldn't you move to a country with less taxes?

 

[Black Soul]

This is the second time I've read this post (the first time before I joined) and it's still really touching. I can relate to the first point especially because it similarly happened to me . Life is really a bitch, now I'm broken and sure I'm valueless (it's an unpleasant feeling). I feel so uncertain about everything and anxious, I don't know if there is hope for my life.

As men raised in this modern era, we all have certain lies that we all accept as truth because we were raised to, but not only that, these lies are comfortable lies, they make existence seem more "magical" and "meaningful"

The brutal blackpill is that most of what men think about themselves are lies. Their ego is based on delusion. They don't know their interests. They fail in realizing their enemies who represent a threat to them like women, feminists, politicians, media and etc. They are pathetic losers tbh.