Discussion Thoughts on the raw meat diet during development? Did our parents cuck us?

[KingNorwood]

I know it's kind of a meme, but does anybody here think that eating raw meat and drinking raw milk during puberty can significantly improve your looks when your an adult? It sometimes makes me wonder, if I did eat that diet when I was younger would I still be an ugly asian manlet?

 

[AutistSupremacist]

 

[Qech__]

Courtesy of Grok:
No, there's no solid scientific evidence that chowing down on raw meat and raw milk specifically during puberty would have meaningfully upgraded your adult height, jawline, or overall "looks" in a way that overrides genetics. It's a popular meme in certain online circles (raw primal/carnivore influencers, Weston Price fans, etc.), but the data doesn't back it up as a game-changer—especially not enough to turn an "Asian manlet" into something else. Let's break it down honestly with what the research actually shows.

Nutrition During Puberty Matters... But Not "Raw" vs. Cooked​

Puberty is a key window for linear growth (height), bone density, muscle, and some facial development because of hormones like growth hormone, IGF-1, and testosterone. Protein, calories, calcium, vitamin D, zinc, and other nutrients help you hit your genetic ceiling.

• Milk (raw or not) has a modest link to growth: Studies on kids/adolescents show higher dairy intake correlates with slightly taller adult height—maybe 0.4 cm per daily cup in some cohorts, thanks to protein, calcium, and IGF-1. But this is from any milk; the effect is small and mostly helps prevent stunting in undernourished populations. Meta-analyses of RCTs find no big difference in height from milk interventions overall.
• Raw milk isn't proven superior: Old 1930s studies hinted at raw being better for weight/height in some kids, but modern reviews (including direct comparisons) show pasteurization doesn't meaningfully hurt protein digestibility, nutrient absorption, or growth outcomes. The "enzymes" or "probiotics" claims don't hold up for development. Any IGF-1 boost comes from the dairy proteins/fats, not the raw state.
• Raw meat? Even less evidence: No controlled studies show raw meat outperforms cooked for puberty growth, testosterone, or facial structure. High-protein animal foods (cooked or not) support muscle and hormones via cholesterol, zinc, etc., but "raw primal" claims are mostly anecdotal. Carnivore-style diets might give short-term metabolic perks in some people, but nothing unique to raw for looks or height.

Weston Price's famous work (1930s) gets cited a lot here—he showed traditional nutrient-dense diets (including raw dairy in some cultures, organ meats, etc.) led to broader faces, straight teeth, and better bone structure vs. modern processed junk. But the key was overall nutrient density (vitamins A, D, K2 from animal foods + minerals), not "must be raw." Cooked meats and fermented dairy featured heavily too. Modern replications emphasize avoiding ultra-processed food over raw vs. cooked.

Height and "Asian Manlet" Reality: Genetics Dominate​

Adult height is ~80% genetic. Nutrition in childhood/puberty can help you reach your potential (e.g., South Koreans got taller with better post-war diets/protein), but it won't add inches beyond your DNA ceiling. East Asian populations have specific genetic variants influencing height averages—historical nutrition played a role, but ethnic differences persist even in well-fed groups.


If your parents/grandparents were on a typical mid-20th-century Asian diet (rice-heavy, variable protein), optimized nutrition might have gotten you a bit taller/stronger—but swapping to raw steak and raw milk wouldn't have been the magic variable. Plenty of short Asian guys crush it in looks/fitness/confidence without that diet.

The Risks Outweigh the Hype​

Raw milk and raw meat are straight-up risky, especially for kids/teens:

• Bacteria like E. coli, Salmonella, Listeria, Campylobacter—common in unpasteurized milk and undercooked/raw meat. Kids/adolescents get hit hardest (higher hospitalization rates, kidney issues, sepsis). Outbreaks are well-documented.
• No health org (CDC, AAP, FDA) recommends it for growing bodies. The "anabolic" meme ignores that foodborne illness can stunt growth via inflammation/malnutrition.

Bottom Line for Your "What If"​

You probably wouldn't look dramatically different as an adult. A solid, nutrient-dense diet (plenty of protein, dairy/eggs, veggies, etc.—cooked is fine and safer) during puberty helps maximize what your genes allow. But "significantly improve your looks" to the point of not being an "ugly Asian manlet"? That's mostly cope from meme accounts. Facial structure, height, and baseline attractiveness are heavily genetic + early environment. Raw didn't create supermodels in traditional societies; consistent good nutrition did.


At this point, focus on what you can control now: lifting weights (builds muscle/jaw aesthetics via testosterone response), sleep, grooming, style, posture, and confidence. Tons of guys who don't fit the tall/chiseled stereotype do just fine. The diet meme is fun for TikTok but not a time machine.

 

[KingNorwood]

Courtesy of Grok:
No, there's no solid scientific evidence that chowing down on raw meat and raw milk specifically during puberty would have meaningfully upgraded your adult height, jawline, or overall "looks" in a way that overrides genetics. It's a popular meme in certain online circles (raw primal/carnivore influencers, Weston Price fans, etc.), but the data doesn't back it up as a game-changer—especially not enough to turn an "Asian manlet" into something else. Let's break it down honestly with what the research actually shows.

Nutrition During Puberty Matters... But Not "Raw" vs. Cooked​

Puberty is a key window for linear growth (height), bone density, muscle, and some facial development because of hormones like growth hormone, IGF-1, and testosterone. Protein, calories, calcium, vitamin D, zinc, and other nutrients help you hit your genetic ceiling.

• Milk (raw or not) has a modest link to growth: Studies on kids/adolescents show higher dairy intake correlates with slightly taller adult height—maybe 0.4 cm per daily cup in some cohorts, thanks to protein, calcium, and IGF-1. But this is from any milk; the effect is small and mostly helps prevent stunting in undernourished populations. Meta-analyses of RCTs find no big difference in height from milk interventions overall.
• Raw milk isn't proven superior: Old 1930s studies hinted at raw being better for weight/height in some kids, but modern reviews (including direct comparisons) show pasteurization doesn't meaningfully hurt protein digestibility, nutrient absorption, or growth outcomes. The "enzymes" or "probiotics" claims don't hold up for development. Any IGF-1 boost comes from the dairy proteins/fats, not the raw state.
• Raw meat? Even less evidence: No controlled studies show raw meat outperforms cooked for puberty growth, testosterone, or facial structure. High-protein animal foods (cooked or not) support muscle and hormones via cholesterol, zinc, etc., but "raw primal" claims are mostly anecdotal. Carnivore-style diets might give short-term metabolic perks in some people, but nothing unique to raw for looks or height.

Weston Price's famous work (1930s) gets cited a lot here—he showed traditional nutrient-dense diets (including raw dairy in some cultures, organ meats, etc.) led to broader faces, straight teeth, and better bone structure vs. modern processed junk. But the key was overall nutrient density (vitamins A, D, K2 from animal foods + minerals), not "must be raw." Cooked meats and fermented dairy featured heavily too. Modern replications emphasize avoiding ultra-processed food over raw vs. cooked.

Height and "Asian Manlet" Reality: Genetics Dominate​

Adult height is ~80% genetic. Nutrition in childhood/puberty can help you reach your potential (e.g., South Koreans got taller with better post-war diets/protein), but it won't add inches beyond your DNA ceiling. East Asian populations have specific genetic variants influencing height averages—historical nutrition played a role, but ethnic differences persist even in well-fed groups.


If your parents/grandparents were on a typical mid-20th-century Asian diet (rice-heavy, variable protein), optimized nutrition might have gotten you a bit taller/stronger—but swapping to raw steak and raw milk wouldn't have been the magic variable. Plenty of short Asian guys crush it in looks/fitness/confidence without that diet.

The Risks Outweigh the Hype​

Raw milk and raw meat are straight-up risky, especially for kids/teens:

• Bacteria like E. coli, Salmonella, Listeria, Campylobacter—common in unpasteurized milk and undercooked/raw meat. Kids/adolescents get hit hardest (higher hospitalization rates, kidney issues, sepsis). Outbreaks are well-documented.
• No health org (CDC, AAP, FDA) recommends it for growing bodies. The "anabolic" meme ignores that foodborne illness can stunt growth via inflammation/malnutrition.

Bottom Line for Your "What If"​

You probably wouldn't look dramatically different as an adult. A solid, nutrient-dense diet (plenty of protein, dairy/eggs, veggies, etc.—cooked is fine and safer) during puberty helps maximize what your genes allow. But "significantly improve your looks" to the point of not being an "ugly Asian manlet"? That's mostly cope from meme accounts. Facial structure, height, and baseline attractiveness are heavily genetic + early environment. Raw didn't create supermodels in traditional societies; consistent good nutrition did.


At this point, focus on what you can control now: lifting weights (builds muscle/jaw aesthetics via testosterone response), sleep, grooming, style, posture, and confidence. Tons of guys who don't fit the tall/chiseled stereotype do just fine. The diet meme is fun for TikTok but not a time machine.

Thanks Grok!

 

[XDFLAMEBOY]

I know it's kind of a meme, but does anybody here think that eating raw meat and drinking raw milk during puberty can significantly improve your looks when your an adult? It sometimes makes me wonder, if I did eat that diet when I was younger would I still be an ugly asian manlet?

 

[Thaway]

Unless you grew up severely malnurished, it's ALL GENES. Anything else is normie tier coping.

 

[Robocell]

Unless you grew up severely malnurished, it's ALL GENES. Anything else is normie tier coping.

Not true, I'm sure that Richard Ramirez and Jeremy Meeks had GREAT diets growing up!

 

[Autistic Uggo]

Unless you grew up severely malnurished, it's ALL GENES. Anything else is normie tier coping.

Not true, I'm sure that Richard Ramirez and Jeremy Meeks had GREAT diets growing up!

Richard Ramirez shot up to 6'2 on a diet of fast food, candy and meth.

 

[BeanChud88]

Just ask Richard Ramirez he only ate candy look how ugly he turned out

 

[Thaway]

fast food, candy and meth.

Lol yep! When i grew up i knew a bunch of german-russian kids (Spätaussiedler) who's families had remigrated back to germany they hardly got any nutritious food when they were children in the soviet union because they were from very low class families and they also started drinking at an early age, yet many of them grew tall.

Not true, I'm sure that Richard Ramirez and Jeremy Meeks had GREAT diets growing up!

Jeremy meeks was on a mogger diet of skittles and water melon and look what the boy made out of himself.

 

[Rapistcel]

I know it's kind of a meme, but does anybody here think that eating raw meat and drinking raw milk during puberty can significantly improve your looks when your an adult? It sometimes makes me wonder, if I did eat that diet when I was younger would I still be an ugly asian manlet?

Never tried it

 

[Itsoverm8]

I fucking hate my parents

 

[cymbeline]

I don't know about eating it raw but eating mostly just nutrient devoid cereal and bread growing definitely impacts your development

 

[yeetbender_]

Physically and chemically, I believe that I was stumped from my fullest potential, though it wasn't necessarily much of a spectacular one.

 

[parbate2025]

I know it's kind of a meme, but does anybody here think that eating raw meat and drinking raw milk during puberty can significantly improve your looks when your an adult? It sometimes makes me wonder, if I did eat that diet when I was younger would I still be an ugly asian manlet?

carnivore diet is goated though.
Raw meat is cope.
kids from 10 -18 should consume carnivore diet with some carbs and fats.

 

[Robocell]

carnivore diet is goated though.
Raw meat is cope.

Aren't your first 2 sentences contradicting themselves?

 

[parbate2025]

Aren't your first 2 sentences contradicting themselves?

Carnivore as in cooked meat diet is goated.
Cooking meat doesn't destroy nutrients like some influencers say
Raw meat will just destroy your gut health and give you food poisoning.

 

[rxkrd72]

I know it's kind of a meme, but does anybody here think that eating raw meat and drinking raw milk during puberty can significantly improve your looks when your an adult? It sometimes makes me wonder, if I did eat that diet when I was younger would I still be an ugly asian manlet?

raw meat is cope

 

[rxkrd72]

carnivore diet is goated though.
Raw meat is cope.
kids from 10 -18 should consume carnivore diet with some carbs and fats.

carnivore diet is a hazard

 

[goyim next door]

George Floyd was 6'4ft tall with his healthy diet of meth after a long tedious exercising of pointing gun at the nearest pregnant woman.

 

[Lunaticcurrycel]

I know it's kind of a meme, but does anybody here think that eating raw meat and drinking raw milk during puberty can significantly improve your looks when your an adult? It sometimes makes me wonder, if I did eat that diet when I was younger would I still be an ugly asian manlet?

It wasn't gonna make you any taller. Diet doesn't affect height more than an inch or so

 

[Thaway]

99 percent cope and nonesense, like all other nurture copes.

The premise of the cope is that "in reality" you'd be a big strong well developed guy if your parents would have just fed you a little more steak. Unless you were not severely malnourished as a child, it's cope.

The truth is, your parents did not cuck you through diet but especially your mother cucked you through breeding with a weak genetic stock male. Nature over nurture.

 

[FarangInDaNang]

I know it's kind of a meme, but does anybody here think that eating raw meat and drinking raw milk during puberty can significantly improve your looks when your an adult? It sometimes makes me wonder, if I did eat that diet when I was younger would I still be an ugly asian manlet?

Cope. I grew up with raw foods. No difference in my development