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Those who haven't seeked Islam, why?

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What is stopping you from attaining eternal paradise with your creator, Allah Subhannahuwatala (all glory is His)?

Is your anger of women who commit adultery overpowering you? Because I have no issue. I sleep at peace knowing they are sucking their way into the lake of fire and accompanying shaytan among the party of the blaze.

Is your hubris large enough to claim there is absolutely no God, for a certainty? How could a mere man (particularly incel) be enlightened by such knowledge?
 
A good chunk of incels and myself included really don't believe in god, sorry dude.
 
All religion is retarded megacope. And Islam is the most backward religion of all. The Islam hordes have invaded the west and western civilisation as we know it will be over in 50 years. And LOL @ the copers who think a cave-dwelling fundamentalist structure would be better. Incels would be the first to be tossed off buildings.
 
Pretty much only south Asians and Arabs believe in Islam in my country.

Muslims are viewed unfavorably in my country.

It is taboo. Asian family tradition.

I also don't believe in Allah.
 
existentialhack said:
All religion is retarded megacope. And Islam is the most backward religion of all. The Islam hordes have invaded the west and western civilisation as we know it will be over in 50 years. And LOL @ the copers who think a cave-dwelling fundamentalist structure would be better. Incels would be the first to be tossed off buildings.

You are speaking as if western civilization is worth being preserved. It is not cave dwelling, its pure ascension. And no, Incels are equal to others in Islam. It is only your deeds that you are judged by. Looks mean nothing in this religion alhamdulillah (thanks be to Allah). That's why the prophet Muhammad sulAllahu alayhi wa'salam (peace be upon him) is never illustrated. Focus on DEEDS, not looks. Looks are ZINAH, they're decoration. They mean nothing to a person's soul.

The west is against all of this. Tell me one thing worth preserving in a society where people are able to use apps like Tinder and NOT be publicly executed? You can't. If you do, verily, it is cope.
 
opsec said:
You are speaking as if western civilization is worth being preserved. It is not cave dwelling, its pure ascension. And no, Incels are equal to others in Islam. It is only your deeds that you are judged by. Looks mean nothing in this religion alhamdulillah (thanks be to Allah). That's why the prophet Muhammad sulAllahu alayhi wa'salam (peace be upon him) is never illustrated. Focus on DEEDS, not looks. Looks are ZINAH, they're decoration. They mean nothing to a person's soul.

The west is against all of this. Tell me one thing worth preserving in a society where people are able to use apps like Tinder and NOT be publicly executed? You can't. If you do, verily, it is cope.

lol Religious nuttery is antithetical to the black pill. Which is about accepting truth and reality. Believing in objectively and obviously false things is blue pilled af. 


Yeah, I value western civilisation. I value freedom, free speech, democracy, the welfare state, healthcare, good housing, roads, video games, McDonalds and being able to do what the fuck I want, when I want. Tinder has brought about a greater understanding of reality and made swallowing the black pill easier.
 
An atheist, ex-muslim (half hafeez) here. GTFO with your bs.
 
Because it hates everything fun.

I'm all about roasties being contained. But degenerate desires like drugs and booze... I don't want to give up!
 
Currycel4Life said:
Because it hates everything fun.

I'm all about roasties being contained. But degenerate desires like drugs and booze... I don't want to give up!

at least you dont slander like the other kuffar in this thread. if you give it up, you wouldnt believe the reward in the afterlife you will recieve. just keep in mind, youre not supposed to be doing the stuff.


chudur-budur said:
An atheist, ex-muslim (half hafeez) here. GTFO with your bs.

murtaddeen sicken me even more than the kuffar. may Allah SWT guide you among the straight path and not the path of those who have evoked his anger. Ameen
 
I am a former Muslim and I still think all the stuff except polygamy is excellent
 
I have a love-hate relationship with Islam. Out of all Abrahamic religions, I would prefer it. Fuck Israel and their tricks. Muslims are the only ones based enough to stand against Jews and Christcucks.

On the other hand, I don't like religion much. Is it good to believe in something greater...larger than life? Hell, it's downright essential, and very logical. However, I don't like the idea of such a being creating everything so imperfectly. The creator is responsible for our collective suffering, why does he deserve any worship?
 
Islam is the brown man's alt-right. Ethnics hope for an "Islamic state", white guys for an "ethnostate". Personally, I can understand that fascism and that Islam which is a protest, but I despise that which is a hope. If there'd come a point at which there's only fascism and Islam left in the West, I'd hope that they all kill each other after I've gone back to Asia.

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Edit: But I don't think that will happen, btw. It is more likely that "Incel Islam" will become a tiny niche and Islam "integrate" into the Western world. Islam will end up pretty much like Christianity, the Muslim girls you see in college these days aren't really different from the non-Muslim girls. They wear hijabs at best, but that's it.

People who point to the Qu'ran or Sunnah and say, they AKSCHUALLY have to do this and that will be despised just like crazy tinfoil Christians who point to the Bible and say AKSCHUALLY liberal Christianity is a heresy. People will just reply that it's about love and tolerance etc., that men just "instrumentalize" this book and misuse it to justify misogyny and yada yada yada, and with carrot and stick, a Western Islam will be created: stick against "fundamentalists", carrot (=jobs, money, positions in university, school, government, etc.) for those who preach a feminist Islam.

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This is already happening left and right, this is how ALL religions before were shaped depending on what the current ruling classes needed at that point of time. And the ruling class of today does absoluty NOT include any deeply-spiritual Muslims who are only concerned about seeking Allah's truth. Not even the Incels are! They are concerned about what's good for incels, rather than what's true accordign to Quran and Sunnah. (They allow polygamy btw which is bad for incels and plays into female hypergamy: Chad gets his 4 wives and all the money while impoversihed incels have to blow themselves up to get some action in the afterlife....
 
I have been considering converting to islam in the future if I am unable to escape inceldom.
 
Religion is a retarded cope, and you sound like you are LARPing as a Syrian IS fighter.
 
Apparently cucktears was right. Islamists trying to recruit virgins here now.
 
jfl at not wanting Islam as an incel, you guys are ignorant
 
The LARP is strong in this thread...
 
The only solution is COMMUNISM.
 
nausea said:

You pretend to be something, in this case a Syrian IS warrior, to distract yourself from your life in misery. It is a game.
 
SCP-049 said:
You pretend to be something, in this case a Syrian IS warrior, to distract yourself from your life in misery. It is a game.

how is it distracting to preach about TAKING ACTION to solve our misery?

also FSA is not ISIS
 
nausea said:
how is it distracting to preach about TAKING ACTION to solve our misery?

also FSA is not ISIS

Islam won't solve our misery. I had the same argument with a white nationalist once. Our Inceldom is a result of how humans evolved. It has nothing to do with Western society. Islam won't solve anything.  
Also, I do enjoy my personal and political freedom too much for allowing them to be taken away by religious nutjobs. Western society is the pinnacle of human cultural development.
 
SCP-049 said:
Islam won't solve our misery. I had the same argument with a white nationalist once. Our Inceldom is a result of how humans evolved. It has nothing to do with Western society. Islam won't solve anything.  
Also, I do enjoy my personal and political freedom too much for allowing them to be taken away by religious nutjobs. Western society is the pinnacle of human cultural development.

Islam will grant you a female, ergo solving inceldom

you have been brainwashed by western propaganda, document yourself as I did

jfl at "personal and political freedom" ! are you out of your mind? do you feel free now?

you clearly think about Islam as it is portrayed by western media, or you think about fake islamic countries like Turkey, or about ISIS, or Al Qaeda, or Boko Haram

"pinnacle of cultural development" is typical western propaganda

enjoy your freedom ALONE in misery, surrounded by suicidefuel and depravity

really, man, it's not a matter of religion even, it's about a more balanced society which recognizes and fullfills human needs and provides order
 
nausea said:
Islam will grant you a female, ergo solving inceldom

No it won't. There are plenty of incels in Muslim countries. Do you really think that the fundamental laws of human attraction suddenly disappear as soon as Islam becomes a dominant force in society? Even if females were not allowed to choose whom to mate with themselves anymore, most incels would still be incels. No father will marry his daughter to an ugly autistic weirdo. 
At least in "degenerate" Western society, such men will have porn and prostitutes at their disposal to temporarily please their sexual needs.

nausea said:
[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]jfl at "personal and political freedom" ! are you out of your mind? do you feel free now?[/font]

Yes. 

nausea said:
[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]you clearly think about Islam as it is portrayed by western media, or you think about fake islamic countries like Turkey, or about ISIS, or Al Qaeda, or Boko Haram[/font] 

Why are these fake? They all claim to adhere to Islamic values. You sound exactly like communists who try to convince everyone that the Soviet Union and China are not real socialism. Are "real" Islamic countries only those that adhere to your specific interpretation of Islam? What makes you think that, if the West at some point actually turns into a Muslim society, it will be your version of Islam that will get implemented? 

nausea said:
[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]enjoy your freedom ALONE in misery, surrounded by suicidefuel and depravity[/font]
[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]
[/font]
[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Implying that it would be any different in a Muslim society. [/font]
 
how to make separate quotes in my reply as the post above?
 
existentialhack said:
lol Religious nuttery is antithetical to the black pill. Which is about accepting truth and reality. Believing in objectively and obviously false things is blue pilled af. 


Yeah, I value western civilisation. I value freedom, free speech, democracy, the welfare state, healthcare, good housing, roads, video games, McDonalds and being able to do what the fuck I want, when I want. Tinder has brought about a greater understanding of reality and made swallowing the black pill easier.


Sounds like the rantings of the last mad man on earth.

It is liberalism that gradually allowed taboes, sins and vices to be accepted by people under the guise of progress and accepting it as a new norm and value. What was a taboo 100 years ago or 50 years ago is now considered a value that must be protected at all cost, even if said value has negative consequences for society. Who thought that free sexual morale and equal rights for women, would contribute to so many men being irrelevant? 

It is freedom of speech which allows false thoughts like cultural marxism to be spread under the peoples thus corrupting them. It progressivism that turns sins and vices into new norms, values and rights and thus never being able to revoke it if it causes societal collapse, because that would be the anti-thesis of liberalism: authoritarianism.

Civilizations rise, stagnate and decline according to some wise men (Spengler, Unwin). It is thus important to adhere to an ideology that prevents the decline of civilization . Even if you don't believe in a supreme being you cannot refuse that islam is practically a perfect ideology for a civilization to thrive. National socialism comes close, but lacks the authority that it comes from God to legitimize such an ideology/religion.
 
LDPE said:
 Even if you don't believe in a supreme being you cannot refuse that islam is practically a perfect ideology for a civilization to thrive. 

Yeah, that's why the Islamic parts of the world are beacons of civilisation and progress. Oh wait.
 
LDPE said:
It is freedom of speech which allows false thoughts like cultural marxism to be spread under the peoples thus corrupting them. 

It is also freedom of speech which allows us to discuss sensitive topics online. Limiting freedom of speech can and will backfire, regardless of the ideology it is done under.
 
existentialhack said:
Yeah, that's why the Islamic parts of the world are beacons of civilisation and progress. Oh wait.

enjoy your current civilization

rejoy at depravation, loneliness, desperation, unfullfilled desires, humiliation and injustice

immerse yourself in suicidefuel with a smile

it's progress after all, right?
 
nausea said:
enjoy your current civilization

rejoy at depravation, loneliness, desperation, unfullfilled desires, humiliation and injustice

immerse yourself in suicidefuel with a smile

it's progress after all, right?


I do man. I'm grateful to have 1st world problems and not 3rd world ones, like most Islamic countries.
 
existentialhack said:
I do man. I'm grateful to have 1st world problems and not 3rd world ones, like most Islamic countries.

the most islamic countries you refer to are plagued by wars CAUSED by western nations
 
idkwattodowithlife said:
A good chunk of incels and myself included really don't believe in god, sorry dude.

Yeah and inceldom itself is what prevents many of us from such.
 
SCP-049 said:
LDPE said:
It is freedom of speech which allows false thoughts like cultural marxism to be spread under the peoples thus corrupting them.
It is also freedom of speech which allows us to discuss sensitive topics online. Limiting freedom of speech can and will backfire, regardless of the ideology it is done under.

Talking to others about daily things and stuff is not the same as preaching and teaching corrupted ideas to the masses.
 
truecel23 said:
Yeah and inceldom itself is what prevents many of us from such.

it is NOT about religion

Islam provides solution to inceldom, technical actual solution
 
nausea said:
the most islamic countries you refer to are plagued by wars CAUSED by western nations


That's true. But even the secure ones like Saudi Arabia are desert shitholes.


Where do you live and what's your ethnicity?
 
existentialhack said:
That's true. But even the secure ones like Saudi Arabia are desert shitholes.


Where do you live and what's your ethnicity?

Italy

Italian
 
SCP-049 said:
It is also freedom of speech which allows us to discuss sensitive topics online. Limiting freedom of speech can and will backfire, regardless of the ideology it is done under.


Yep. People who advocate taking away/surrendering rights because they believe in the benevolence of authority of any kind are stupid beyond measure.
 
nausea said:
it is NOT about religion

Islam provides solution to inceldom, technical actual solution

Didn't most of us incels care about actually being physically desired over having a sex slave?

I can snap my fingers rn and spend the little money I have on maybe a session or two with an escort. But even then, the feeling that chad has of being desired is euphoric.
 
SCP-049 said:
No it won't. There are plenty of incels in Muslim countries. Do you really think that the fundamental laws of human attraction suddenly disappear as soon as Islam becomes a dominant force in society? Even if females were not allowed to choose whom to mate with themselves anymore, most incels would still be incels. No father will marry his daughter to an ugly autistic weirdo. 
At least in "degenerate" Western society, such men will have porn and prostitutes at their disposal to temporarily please their sexual needs.


Yes. 


Why are these fake? They all claim to adhere to Islamic values. You sound exactly like communists who try to convince everyone that the Soviet Union and China are not real socialism. Are "real" Islamic countries only those that adhere to your specific interpretation of Islam? What makes you think that, if the West at some point actually turns into a Muslim society, it will be your version of Islam that will get implemented? 

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[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Implying that it would be any different in a Muslim society. [/font]


believe it or not I am so dumb I do not know how to multiquote

this should answer your questions




[video=youtube]http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibHBHd5Dr50[/video]


truecel23 said:
Didn't most of us incels care about actually being physically desired over having a sex slave?

obviously

are you out of your mind ? sex slaves ?

I proposed LM solution, read it and tell me what's wrong with it
 
To be quite frank I think the good thing about religion is that it doesn't enable you/others to exercise degeneracy and also there's a sense of community that's bind within it, i.e. 50% of the people part of the church of Norway are atheists. Also Christianity had its part or foundation in laying down Western civilization and I don't know why some atheists are very stringent and iffy about religions (I'm guessing it must be from Sam Harris crowd, or one of the four horsemen). Marriage is a religious tradition and even people from the LGBTIQ, are trying their best to legalize it because they want to be under the safeguard of Christianity, and hence religion in a way adds security.

Probably completely contradicts my point earlier this thread, but I think its important to think about the other side of the coin IMO.
 
nausea said:
believe it or not I am so dumb I do not know how to multiquote

this should answer your questions




[video=youtube]http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibHBHd5Dr50[/video]



obviously

are you out of your mind ? sex slaves ?

I proposed LM solution, read it and tell me what's wrong with it



You're advocating for essentially forced hardcore ISIS/Saudi style "wives" who don't actually have any attraction towards you whatsoever. IDK, you do you, bro.
 
existentialhack said:
Yep. People who advocate taking away/surrendering rights because they believe in the benevolence of authority of any kind are stupid beyond measure.

[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]It is progressivism that turns sins and vices into new norms, values and rights and thus never being able to revoke it if it causes societal collapse, because that would be the anti-thesis of liberalism: authoritarianism.[/font]

Catch 22 my friends...
 
nausea said:
the most islamic countries you refer to are plagued by wars CAUSED by western nations

Absolute fucking bullshit. Shits like you make me wish that the anti-Trump propoganda was real.
 
I simply don't believe in god.

Also, I consider them refusing to eat pork pretty stupid.
 
truecel23 said:
You're advocating for essentially forced hardcore ISIS/Saudi style "wives" who don't actually have any attraction towards you whatsoever. IDK, you do you, bro.

totally contrary to what I preach

I have a sister I love wholeheartedly


Sneepysqar said:
Absolute fucking bullshit. Shits like you make me wish that the anti-Trump propoganda was real.

ignorant fool

document yourself for your own freedom and learn to make use of autonomy of judgement, a quality nature has gifted you with


[font=Georgia, Times,]Rape is completely forbidden in Islamic law, and is a crime punishable by death.[/font]
[font=Georgia, Times,]In Islam, capital punishment is reserved for the most extreme crimes which harm individual victims or destabilize society. Rape falls into both of these categories.[/font]
[font=Georgia, Times,]Islam takes very seriously the honor and protection of women. The Quran repeatedly reminds men to treat women with kindness and fairness. Rape is a horrible crime which causes a women humiliation and physical harm.[/font]


[font=Georgia, Times,]extracted from [/font]
https://www.thoughtco.com/what-does-islamic-law-say-about-rape-2004208
 
opsec said:
at least you dont slander like the other kuffar in this thread. if you give it up, you wouldnt believe the reward in the afterlife you will recieve. just keep in mind, youre not supposed to be doing the stuff.



murtaddeen sicken me even more than the kuffar. may Allah SWT guide you among the straight path and not the path of those who have evoked his anger. Ameen



Go have some anal sex with your chad prophet Mo, Islam is dog shit, allahufuckbar.
 
LDPE said:
existentialhack said:
lol Religious nuttery is antithetical to the black pill. Which is about accepting truth and reality. Believing in objectively and obviously false things is blue pilled af.
Yeah, I value western civilisation. I value freedom, free speech, democracy, the welfare state, healthcare, good housing, roads, video games, McDonalds and being able to do what the fuck I want, when I want. Tinder has brought about a greater understanding of reality and made swallowing the black pill easier.
Sounds like the rantings of the last mad man on earth.
It is liberalism that gradually allowed taboes, sins and vices to be accepted by people under the guise of progress and accepting it a as new norm and value. What was a taboo 100 years ago or 50 years ago is now considered a value that must be protected at all cost, even if said value has negative consequence for society. Who thought that free sexual morale and equal rights for women, would contribute to so many men being irrelevant?
It is freedom of speech which allows false thoughts like cultural marxism to be spread under the peoples thus corrupting them. It progressivism that turns sins and vices into new norms, values and rights and thus never being able to revoke it if it causes societal collapse, because that would be the anti-thesis of liberalism: authoritarianism.
Civilizations rise, stagnate and decline according to some wise men (Spengler, Unwin). It is thus important to adhere to an ideology that prevents civilization decline. Even if you don't believe in a supreme being you cannot refuse that islam is practically a perfect ideology for a civilization to thrive. National socialism comes close, but lacks the authority that it comes from God to legitimize such an ideology/religion.


Fucking this
 
chudur-budur said:
Go have some anal sex with your chad prophet Mo, Islam is dog shit, allahufuckbar.

can you be more ignorant than that?

why you people want to start an infight with fellow incels here?

direct your holy anger towards society, this shall be a safe haven for  us all
 

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