2 different transformations 2 different phenos. The second guy with glasses was brutally ugly and balding before. He transformed with roids. By roids I mean mostly only Testosterone
2 different transformations 2 different phenos. The second guy with glasses was brutally ugly and balding before. He transformed with roids. By roids I mean mostly only Testosterone
Best way to get wide masc jaw is by test increase, that's why I've started working out
Literally true. That plus low body fat= chad jaw
I noticed barely any difference in my face before and after roids. Maybe HGH did something but test itself would only really help leanmaxx and show the bones
unless you are lucky or young you are right its not gonna do much
How many years have you been taking them? I mostly noticed difference after a year of blasting test . After seeing a pic of my face a year ago and before it’s clear. Also eating rough meat and compound lifts help immensely
close to 1.5 years. You blasting year round could've also been the reason for your face changing. How're the lipids looking like? I went for a blast and cruise type of thing, so realistically I'd say I blasted about 4 times.
I think I started pretty young tbh. it was a few months before turning 17. Maybe my puberty was almost done by then, idk.
No testosterone for your facial bones
oh weird, would have expected more differences.
brutal that i didnt know where to buy at age of 17, i was too late
Prime time is around 14 ish. Brutal our parents didn't put us on back then
yes its brutal
The only problem with that is aromatisation to E2 can fuse growth plates which can stunt clavicle growth.
Yup. Theoretically if you keep your e2 nuked during puberty, puberty would never end therefore granting you crazy height and frame potential. The issue is just in handling the horrible feeling of achy joints and dehydration + massive fatigue.
I'd get some if I could but I do not know from where. What do you recommend?
Yes but just use ai for that, i think (and hope) that people know about ai before using test
Wait so it needs to be like nuked lvl? Around avg is not good enough?
Nuked for puberty to not stop, average for puberty to go on as normal
oh oke
If your from Uk dm me. But there’s so many websites that sell it. Even if your from Us or Europe
Yeah plus estrogens are neuroprotective. Lower it too much and you will get braindamage.
Also lack of sex drive. Back when i was into looksmaxxing and was still coping that my plates were open i nuked my estrogen completly and my sex drive went to zero. It was really weird, i was angry all the time and hot, like physicly hot, i felt like my baseline body temp was really high.
Like on the deep web?
Idk never heard of them. Could you tell me where to look? I live in Germany and though I have not started gymmaxxing officially I'd like to do so soon. And naturally I tried this before without any results. Have to find employment first though.
I know a website called dues chem sells it for sure. I think it’s based in Germany too. No you don’t even need to go on the deep web.
Cool, thank you. What do you recommend I take as my first? Just plain tren?
Idk I read that Dianabol is a good one for your first stack
bro...
decent ig but you have to manage estrogen alot more and you will get bloated (facially aswell)
Facial bloating will be a problem. Idk, I am on a cut and my face barely looks decent now. Are there non bloating alternatives?
No bro. Just test only. Start with 200-400mg a week
Any type of testosterone?
lol
take test enanthate like 300mg a week to start
it will take a couple of weeks to build up.
orals are awful for you just pin it. it isn't that bad.
Testosterone enanthate . Or cypionate. Up to you. Enanthate is the most popular but really doesn’t make a difference
most are not really bloating.
you can do test only like @gymcellragefuel says.
if you are already lean anavar is pretty safe and will make you look even better. and help with gains aswell ofc.
Sounds awful I am personally afraid of needles , but hey I need to man up. If orals are really that bad then I guess that I have no choice.
Thank you, I will meditate on this and do some more research of my own
it would be ok to take a small amount of dbol alongside your test but dbol only is stupid imo.
Really you can hardly even feel it. The first time, when you don't know what you're doing is the worst. but you can just watch videos of exactly how its done. there's very little risk. Hurts much less than like a shot your doctor would give in your arm.
Just make sure you buy a few packs of arimidex for the e2 management if you do go through with it
Yeah jfl. The worst I ever felt was when my e2 was crashed for a few weeks because of aromasin. Absolute hell when awake and asleep.
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