The reason we're incels is probably to do with less of genetics tbqh

[reptiles17]

An attractive face has a wife maxilla wide mandible this is because attractive faces have very healthy bite force the reason we today see incels is because of narrower palates an narrow palate essentially means you will have. A shorter face with a lot less skull width.

Short palates are not inherently genetic in fact the reasons are so common today is because our pallates are getting shorter and most likely this is in response to phenotypic plasticity this is an organisms ability to adapt to an environmental changes.

Narrower pallates means less breast feeding which is very important in attractive faces narrower plates means less ability to breath properly less room to rest the tounge less biting force.

So it's not all genetic the reason why incels are getting uglier is mainly due to 2 quasi factors parents breeding at 40 rather than 23 and bad diets excerbated with soft food which have high amount of carbs next to little protein

 

[reptiles17]

I'm pretty sure it's genetics

It can't be all genetics because narrower pallates and wisdom teeth removal was never common in the past in fact most theeth were wide which allows for a wider face in order to have a wider face you need a wider pallate this allows your face to grow properly

 

[currycel102]

An attractive face has a wife maxilla wide mandible this is because attractive faces have very healthy bite force the reason we today see incels is because of narrower palates an narrow palate essentially means you will have. A shorter face with a lot less skull width.

Short palates are not inherently genetic in fact the reasons are so common today is because our pallates are getting shorter and most likely this is in response to phenotypic plasticity this is an organisms ability to adapt to an environmental changes.

Narrower pallates means less breast feeding which is very important in attractive faces narrower plates means less ability to breath properly less room to rest the tounge less biting force.

So it's not all genetic the reason why incels are getting uglier is mainly due to 2 quasi factors parents breeding at 40 rather than 23 and bad diets excerbated with soft food which have high amount of carbs next to little protein

So what? The point is that with both genetics and with our childhood nurturing being poor, its stuff we cant change now. Its out of our control

 

[reptiles17]

So what? The point is that with both genetics and with our childhood nurturing being poor, its stuff we cant change now. Its out of our control

Well Invisalign braces then double jaw surgery

 

[currycel102]

Well Invisalign braces then double jaw surgery

Childhood nurture vs genetics is a distinction without a difference, is my point

 

[ilieknothing]

It can't be all genetics because narrower pallates and wisdom teeth removal was never common in the past in fact most theeth were wide which allows for a wider face in order to have a wider face you need a wider pallate this allows your face to grow properly

Yes in the past they had that because the food was more rough but with cooking it wasn’t required anymore so it’s not there anymore, it’s all due to genetics

 

[reptiles17]

Childhood nurture vs genetics is a distinction without a difference, is my point

It's a massive distinction if you want kids and aren't a retard and don't want another version of you browsing these forums feed them harder diets limit sugar intake and breast feed them I'm not talking about environmental as in hormonal exposure to androgens in the womb or exposure to the environment in the uterine I'm talking strictly about your formative years 1 to 19

 

[reptiles17]

Yes in the past they had that because the food was more rough but with cooking it wasn’t required anymore so it’s not there anymore, it’s all due to genetics

That's not genetics thats phenotypic plasticity the actual genes don't change as there isn't a selection for narrower jaws instead due to the environment at a younger age the child is born with shallower pallates without actual changes to ones genes

 

[currycel102]

It's a massive distinction if you want kids and aren't a retard and don't want another version of you browsing these forums feed them harder diets limit sugar intake and breast feed them I'm not talking about environmental as in hormonal exposure to androgens in the womb or exposure to the environment in the uterine I'm talking strictly about your formative years 1 to 19

Okay sure, ive always held the position that even if i am an incel and i do manage to ascend, I am perfectly fine with having children. So yes,that our problems are not entirely genetics is absolutely important there. In fact, its not even our parents genetics to blame, in general. Genetic recombination and the purely random chacne of one sperm making it over the other can cause inceldom.

But most here at not thinking about having children.

 

[ilieknothing]

That's not genetics thats phenotypic plasticity the actual genes don't change as there isn't a selection for narrower jaws instead due to the environment at a younger age the child is born with shallower pallates without actual changes to ones genes

No, people had wider jaws before agriculture. It is genetics

 

[reptiles17]

No, people had wider jaws before agriculture. It is genetics

That is genetics because that's over a 10 thousand year span but that's measureable the type of narrow faces we see today isn't because it's only recently it only began in the 1900s before that wide faces were very common

 

[Trannydestroyer]

it is not about jaw some people are just ugly

 

[Incedel]

yeah appreance we see is phenotypic which is genetics x enviroment, things like how often not just your parent smoked before you were born has an effect on you, so not just genetics but also the phenotypic stresses your parents experience

 

[FakeFakecel]

its your looks in general. genetics play the biggest part on that