idk much about augustine tbh, I only know like 3 quotes of his that are interesting
1. he said society needs prostitution as necessary evil
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What can be called more sordid, more void of modesty, more full of shame than prostitutes, brothels and every other evil of this kind? Yet remove prostitutes from human affairs, and you will pollute all things with lust; set them among honest matrons, and you will dishonour all things with disgrace and turpitude",
Saint Augustine,
De Ordine II.4
2. the truth is like a lion quote
The truth is like a lion. You don't have to defend it. Let it loose and it will defend itself. –Attr. St. Augustine
3. the quote about slavery and vice from city of god
“Thus, a good man, though a slave, is free; but a wicked man, though a king, is a slave. For he serves, not one man alone, but what is worse, as many masters as he has vices.”
None of these are immediately apparent as blackpill related but can of course be interpreted that way. For instance, the over quoted lion phrase, well, you could simply point to the many examples of BP affirming itself, such as when guys do a 180° heel turn on BP the moment they get female attention, thus ironically proving BP. Many examples of same thing. "I dont mind short guys but it just so happens my bf is 6'4" or the noodlewhore version "it just so happens my bf and all my asian female friends partners are white caucasian guys."
Prostitution as necessary evil quote relates to BP in the sense that all male-female relations are just forms of prostitution. The male population is exploited by female population and then male labor, attention and resources are used to maintain society at the expense of men. Sexual prostitution is just a very obvious mode of what is basically every relationship with a woman. In that sense, without transactional relations between the genders, society would falter.
About vice, that quote is kinda self-evident. If you can not mentally split yourself from your vices, your feelings for women and recognize them as something that happens to you rather than something that is you, then you are lost already. One of the primary reasons 99% of people never understand the BP is simply because they identify with their feelings and can't grasp that you and your feelings are not necessarily the same. I can look at a woman now, feel sensations crawling over my body, into my penis, up my spine, my face. I can feel my breathing changing, getting heavier, deeper. But I am merely an observer, I am not doing any of this. Her features trigger a response in my body, not in me. When I hear splashing water, I might feel like I have to pee. Did I decide that? Where did I choose to feel that way?
However, since most people are completely incapable of this, let alone willing to apply it to their feelings about women, the BP can never reach them. They are lost to the dominion of their emotions, their vices if you will. If the "predator" looks good aka makes them feel good, he must be a good person. If the man looks ugly or bad, he must be bad. Essence and properties, what is real and what is appearance, it all collapses into one. Good things can only happen to good people and bad things only happen to bad people. And if anything contradicts this feeling based thinking, they generate narratives to justify their viceful reasoning. If the predator looks too good, then it must have been coincidence he fucked a 14 year old, or maybe she wanted it? Or maybe she looked older than her age? All post hoc excuses we see on these videos.
Case Example (video) Read the comments. The majority are saying he's too good looking to be evil. Many are also making the exact same excuses they excuse pedophile of making: - maybe she looked older than she is - how old is 15 really - its fine if the guy is good looking or young enough -...
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Of course my predator example is just one case where you can see this. I made a thread before about normies traveling to foreign cultures and suddenly being ok with natives keeping the rotten carcasses of their grandparents around to chill with. In fact, even praising the natives and saying, oh this is a great honor. If anyone did this in their home country, they would not see the light of day again and it would be national news. Women would masturbate to the perpetrators name and bombard him with love letters and netflix would make something about it.
Note, of course, I am not denying morality here, that would be innane and self refuting. If I started this entire thing under the assumption that morality is subjective, then I would be guilty of what I accuse them off. My own attempt at pointing out their wishy-washy context dependent moral musings would itself become just an opinion piece shouted into the void, a performative contradiction. Anyway here is that thread I mentioned.
View: https://youtube.com/shorts/hZ5geeOHXVk?si=E8n0QPrb1iAn56FD Check the comments, I only saw one guy go "savages." The rest is supporting this shit. Now imagine you or me in the west had a rotting corpse in our room. "Oh that's my culture, say hi to Grandpa!" Of course this reminds us of...
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