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I really wish there was a broader discussion on what constitutes an 'incel' beyond just being a virgin that wants to get laid but cannot... even though that's the literal definition of it. I don't often mention that, though, because I'm occasionally worried that people might take that as me saying that we should establish ourselves as something distinct from 'virgin males' at large, in the same way that Plebbitors try to make a distinction between them for the sake of insulting us without collateral to other 'struggling males.'

That's not at all what I want, but unfortunately, I'm not articulate enough to make it clear what I mean. It's an idea I've had for a while now, and it's related to my belief that there are inherent 'loser' qualities betrothed to ALL incels (including non-blackpilled ones)—and it came from one of SlayerSlayer's threads. If I tried my best, I would define and explain it as something like this—



All incels are unconditionally, inherently 'losers'—all of our pursuits end in failure, passionate we may be, and we are ultimately left with nothing to show as those around us surpass us in every facet conceivable. Everything we do is in vain. WE are the people who have to lose so that others can win.

Incels have always existed amongst Man, because life and nature are inherently competitive. In more primal times, there was the weaker, more feeble man who could not stop the stronger and more physically capable man from stealing his resources he worked incredibly hard to gather. He was the loser that was taken advantage of so that someone else could win and thrive. And what was he to do in spite of that?

Even as Man came to organize into groups for a collective benefit, the weaker and incapable man still existed, and he was taken advantage of in way of contributing his entire strength and ability to the group, for little to no benefit. He gets fewer scraps of food, worse shelter, worse clothing, and nobody in his group respects him enough to give him the light of day—and it persisted until his death. He had lost at life the moment he was born.

Even if the government declared tomorrow that women shall be stripped of all their rights and gave us all state-sponsored spouses, 'incels' would still exist in the sense of losers who can't make anything of life. It doesn't matter how you choose to spin it—even if we had wives who had no choice but to submit to us, they would still despise us in secret and fantasize about other men in private. And should the government give us the ability to beat them for it, they would be afraid perhaps, but that wouldn't ever change the fact that they still find us disgusting and that we will never be the men they would sincerely desire.



I sincerely hope I'm not the only one who thinks this way... that 'inceldom' is something greater than most people care to discuss. There is nothing you could give me to 'fix' me as a person—for that, I would have to not be 'me.'
 
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By the way, you're always free to tell me to stop mentioning you if that's what you would like... I won't take any offense to it desu.
 
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Good definition and opinion but by that logic most incels here are halfly fakecel just because they're succesful. The other half comes from the fact that they're celibates
 
Sorry you feel that way, I guess.
I misinput the first two words. If your whole identity is "I'm not a tourist look at me I'm le heckin awesome weeb" then blow your shite smooth off
 
most incels here are halfly fakecel just because they're succesful.
Eh, I'd say it depends. Success isn't shit anymore to these bitches. Bezos got cheated on. Tom Brady got cheated on. Tom fucking Brady. IRL Superman
 
Good definition and opinion but by that logic most incels here are halfly fakecel just because they're succesful. The other half comes from the fact that they're celibates
It's an abstract concept, and thus, it's rather difficult to actually draw an objective line on what 'success' really is. Still, the general concept is understandable enough, and I can sincerely say that I have never seen a 'successful incel.' Incels generally work in some of the most menial jobs, and even if they get anywhere else, they always get stuck at dead-ends and become miserable while all of their effort and work goes unnoticed.
 
I really wish there was a broader discussion on what constitutes an 'incel' beyond just being a virgin that wants to get laid but cannot... even though that's the literal definition of it. I don't often mention that, though, because I'm occasionally worried that people might take that as me saying that we should establish ourselves as something distinct from 'virgin males' at large, in the same way that Plebbitors try to make a distinction between them for the sake of insulting us without collateral to other 'struggling males.'

That's not at all what I want, but unfortunately, I'm not articulate enough to make it clear what I mean. It's an idea I've had for a while now, and it's related to my belief that there are inherent 'loser' qualities betrothed to ALL incels (including non-blackpilled ones)—and it came from one of SlayerSlayer's threads. If I tried my best, I would define and explain it as something like this—



All incels are unconditionally, inherently 'losers'—all of our pursuits end in failure, passionate we may be, and we are ultimately left with nothing to show as those around us surpass us in every facet conceivable. Everything we do is in vain. WE are the people who have to lose so that others can win.

Incels have always existed amongst Man, because life and nature are inherently competitive. In more primal times, there was the weaker, more feeble man who could not stop the stronger and more physically capable man from stealing his resources he worked incredibly hard to gather. He was the loser that was taken advantage of so that someone else could win and thrive. And what was he to do in spite of that?

Even as Man came to organize into groups for a collective benefit, the weaker and incapable man still existed, and he was taken advantage of in way of contributing his entire strength and ability to the group, for little to no benefit. He gets fewer scraps of food, worse shelter, worse clothing, and nobody in his group respects him enough to give him the light of day—and it persisted until his death. He had lost at life the moment he was born.

Even if the government declared tomorrow that women shall be stripped of all their rights and gave us all state-sponsored spouses, 'incels' would still exist in the sense of losers who can't make anything of life. It doesn't matter how you choose to spin it—even if we had wives who had no choice but to submit to us, they would still despise us in secret and fantasize about other men in private. And should the government give us the ability to beat them for it, they would be afraid perhaps, but that wouldn't ever change the fact that they still find us disgusting and that we will never be the men they would sincerely desire.



I sincerely hope I'm not the only one who thinks this way... that 'inceldom' is something greater than most people care to discuss. There is nothing you could give me to 'fix' me as a person—for that, I would have to not be 'me.'
good read
 
It's an abstract concept, and thus, it's rather difficult to actually draw an objective line on what 'success' really is. Still, the general concept is understandable enough, and I can sincerely say that I have never seen a 'successful incel.' Incels generally work in some of the most menial jobs, and even if they get anywhere else, they always get stuck at dead-ends and become miserable while all of their effort and work goes unnoticed.
Okay i am too low iq to reply to this
 
I misinput the first two words. If your whole identity is "I'm not a tourist look at me I'm le heckin awesome weeb" then blow your shite smooth off
What are you even referring to...? I'm sincerely sorry your autism is this severe desu
 
Okay i am too low iq to reply to this
It's okay, I'm low-IQ too, and so it's probably my fault if you can't understand it, LMAO. I'm not the greatest at writing this kind of stuff.
 
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AN INCEL IS A STRAIGHT MAN WHO WANTS TO FUCK A WOMAN BUT CANT BECAUSE HE JUST FUCKING SUCKS-- HE IS IMPLY THE infERior CHOice

ITS THAT SIMPLE
 
Even if the government declared tomorrow that women shall be stripped of all their rights and gave us all state-sponsored spouses, 'incels' would still exist in the sense of losers who can't make anything of life. It doesn't matter how you choose to spin it—even if we had wives who had no choice but to submit to us, they would still despise us in secret and fantasize about other men in private. And should the government give us the ability to beat them for it, they would be afraid perhaps, but that wouldn't ever change the fact that they still find us disgusting and that we will never be the men they would sincerely desire.
Neat thread but I disagree with this. I think if we disenfranchised women all we would have to do is put them in pre-cana and religious school. If you look at population groups that disenfranchise women, the main factor is that the girls during puberty are attending a school that teaches old type religion, in which God commands marriage as acme for women, and lead the girl to expect that the strange feelings she is now getting, the itch she would rather like scratched, should be addressed by whoever claims her. I read Dutton, and early puberty, around age eleven to thirteen or so, is the utmost formative period. Earlier and later religious education seems to have little effect, and religious education of the boys seems to have little effect. They need to start as young as 9. Their sex drive is a blank slate for the most part. The post-reprisal women would just have to be put in hatcherys until they're complacent. Sort of like how the Angle peasants didn't revolt despite being from a warrior culture because of the high priest.
 
Neat thread but I disagree with this. I think if we disenfranchised women all we would have to do is put them in pre-cana and religious school. If you look at population groups that disenfranchise women, the main factor is that the girls during puberty are attending a school that teaches old type religion, in which God commands marriage as acme for women, and lead the girl to expect that the strange feelings she is now getting, the itch she would rather like scratched, should be addressed by whoever claims her. I read Dutton, and early puberty, around age eleven to thirteen or so, is the utmost formative period. Earlier and later religious education seems to have little effect, and religious education of the boys seems to have little effect. They need to start as young as 9. Their sex drive is a blank slate for the most part. The post-reprisal women would just have to be put in hatcherys until they're complacent. Sort of like how the Angle peasants didn't revolt despite being from a warrior culture because of the high priest.
Uteroids can only have their hypergamy and whoreness suppressed, you can't ever get rid of it since it's an inherent part of their nature. You can put them through all the training you want, but they're still going to naturally get wet for Chad instead of their incel husbands—and that's going to affect the guy's marriage life significantly.
 
AN INCEL IS A STRAIGHT MAN WHO WANTS TO FUCK A WOMAN BUT CANT BECAUSE HE JUST FUCKING SUCKS-- HE IS IMPLY THE infERior CHOice

ITS THAT SIMPLE
That's the surface-level definition that is used for 99.5% of situations, but the point I'm trying to make is that an 'incel' is a 'loser' in a much larger scale—no matter what he is actually afforded in life. He's not only despised by human beings, but also by the world itself. EVERYTHING he does is utterly useless, and the world will have him killed off in a humiliating and solemn manner once he has despaired with life enough.

A fundamental 'loser,' through and through.
 
Uteroids can only have their hypergamy and whoreness suppressed, you can't ever get rid of it since it's an inherent part of their nature. You can put them through all the training you want, but they're still going to naturally get wet for Chad instead of their incel husbands—and that's going to affect the guy's marriage life significantly.
Sexual nature can be changed IMO. Look at the Woodstock Revival.
 
Sexual nature can be changed IMO. Look at the Woodstock Revival.
I understand what you mean, but that's just an example of the alteration of 'flavors' of sexual nature. Fundamentally, sexual attraction is static—at least, with regards to uteroids—and you can't shake that foundation no matter what you do. You can whip a harlot until she bleeds every single day, but she will never inherently find a balding, 5'3 Indian janitor attractive, and a 6'2 Chad, repulsive.

Uteroids have had their preferences and strategies for sexual reproduction ingrained into them for hundreds of thousands of years through evolution, their attraction to certain men is as much as a part of them as their skin. You cannot change that desu.
 

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