Theory The Marxism-Rodgerism FAQ

[mlcurrycel]

• What is Marxism Rodgerism?
  • Marxism Rodgerism is the belief that incels should create a government that takes on the responsibility of abolishing lonliness, inceldom, cheating, and paternity fraud by any means necessary, including state assigned wives.
• Why is it called Marxism Rodgerism?
  • I started using this name to piss off IncelTears. A more accurate moniker would be Marxism-Houellebecqism.
• Who created Marxism Rodgerism?
  • Drawing comparisions between economic and sexual inequality has been around for quite a while. At the very least, the 1994 French novel "Extention of the Domain of Struggle" by Michel Houellebecq applies:

    • It's a fact, I mused to myself, that in societies like ours sex truly represents a second system of differentiation, completely independent of money; and as a system of differentiation it functions just as mercilessly. The effects of these two systems are, furthermore, strictly equivalent. Just like unrestrained economic liberalism, and for similar reasons, sexual liberalism produces phenomena of absolute pauperization. Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make love with dozens ofwomen; others with none. It's what's known as `the law of the market'. In an economic system where unfair dismissal is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their place. In a sexual system where adultery is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their bed mate. In a totally liberal sexual system certain people have a varied and exciting erotic life; others are reduced to masturbation and solitude. Economic liberalism is an extension of the domain of the struggle, its extension to all ages and all classes of society. Sexual liberalism is likewise an extension of the domain of the struggle, its extension to all ages and all classes of society. On the economic plane Raphael Tisserand belongs in the victors' camp; on the sexual plane in that of the vanquished. Certain people win on both levels; others lose on both. Businesses fight over certain young professionals; women fight over certain young men; men fight over certain young women; the trouble and strife are considerable.
      
      From "Extention of the Domain of Struggle" by Michel Houellebecq

    
    
  • @Communcel on r/incels also drew comparisions between the Chads and the Capitalists, pointing out that both Chads and Capitalists experienced the pleasures of life without working for it, while normies and incels subsidised the existence, choices, and lifestyles of women in a similar manner to workers in factories, farms, and warehouses are who make trips to space possible for Jeff Bezos:

    • It may seem difficult to understand the realities of the blackpill. It may be hard to come to terms with how - and why - the world functions as it does. And even when you do, it is even harder to understand where to go next.
      
      But there is one set of techniques which shines a clear light on the world we live in. A scientific and logical analysis of systems of limited resources - Marxism. When we undertake a Marxist analysis of the sexual economy, we immediately find its nuances explained and its realities presented for all to see.
      
      The fundamental element of inequality is exploitation. In economic Marxism, exploitation occurs when a capitalist takes most of the value a worker's labor creates, leaving them barely enough to survive. In other words, the worker's surplus value is stolen from them. This is how capitalists make profits. Sometimes, the capitalists let some segments of workers keep more of their value, in order to bribe and pacify them.
      
      In the sexual economy, there are two distinct classes of men - Chads...and everyone else. There is a group which keeps most women for itself - the Chad-Bourgeois - and a much larger group which, despite being responsible for maintaining global civilization with their labor so that Chad is free to take all he wants, is denied most women. These are the sexual proletariat.
      
      The sexuality of women should be evenly spread among society, but it is not. Instead, it is commodified by sexual capitalism and given to Chad. The Chad-Bourgeoisie allow the sexual proletariat to have just as much pussy as they need to keep the human race alive through reproduction. But even here is it not fair; the proletariat get Chad's leftovers - only when the Chad-Bourgeois no longer want a woman does she go to settle down, marry, and reproduce with a non-Chad.
      
      Now, I mentioned before that the economic bourgeois sometimes bribe workers by giving them more than they would otherwise. In the modern era, the Chad-Bourgeois are facing a world where the proletariat is no longer consigned to the feudal life of arranged marriages without any questions asked, and can see the reality of sexual inequality via media and their own insights. The Chad-Bourgeois responds by bribing the sexual proletariat - they, too, are now allowed to have sex before marriage, and perhaps fuck many women. These women are, of course, still the ones Chad doesn't want, but it bribes most of the world. Remember, this happened when the sexual free market, where women can now choose their partners without having to marry a non-Chad in the end, replaced the Feudal system of arranged marriage. This is sexual capitalism.
      
      The people so bribed are normies. This is the main reason why normies are blind to the sexual capitalist system and lack revolutionary potential.
      
      But the system is imperfect. Due to the female's nature, not all members of the proletariat can be bribed just by the Chad-Bourgeois allowing (pseudo) free sex for everyone. A group at the bottom is inevitability left out - incels.
      
      As sexual feudalism shifted to sexual capitalism, a contradiction was exposed - the Contradiction of Sexual Capitalism is the existence of incels, and the conclusion of the capitalist stage of history must be the resolving of this contradiction. Due to how females are hardwired to be only attracted to Chads, incels always lose in a sexual free market. Many females would rather be single than marry an incel, and a result the incels become a class which doesn't even get marriage, much less any additional bribes. Due to their extreme condition, the incels become "blackpilled" and see the system as it is. The incels thus attain class consciousness.
      
      The basic structure of the sexual world is that the Chad-Bourgeois take all the pussy they can, especially the desirable kind, while eventually passing their leftovers to the sexual proletariat as bribes and allowances. Among the latter group, those are who successfully bribed are normies, and those who become class conscious are incels.
      
      So how do the Chad-Bourgeois manage to keep society under their control, even with incels attain class consciousness? In Marxism, the answer is the Base and superstructure. In a sexual capitalist society, all we know is shaped by the system of sexual economy we live in. Our culture, beliefs, and so on are bent to conform to and reinforce the Chad-Bourgeois narrative. In order to prevent the sexual proletariat from attaining class consciousness, the Chad-Bourgouse use culture to create a false consciousness for them to live in instead.
      
      The key to understanding this is to understand that truth is relative to one's class. Comrade Lenin explained this with his concept of partiinost, party truth. What is "true" depends on your class, truth for one class may be falsehood for another. Thus, what class's "truth" you're listening to is very important.
      
      For example, let's take the Chad-Bourgeois idea of "confidence." Confidence is an intentionally vague idea to explain Chad's sexual success as anything besides winning the genetic lottery. It is said that someone - anyone - with "confidence" can also live like Chad does. For the Chad-Bourgoise, this is true. All a Chad has to do is be willing step outside or set up an online dating profile and they will get all the pussy they want. However, for the rest of the world, this is not the case. By enforcing the idea of confidence instead of genetic luck, Chad yet again bribes the sexual proletariat - bribes them with hope. The idea of confidence explains structural inequality as personal failure - in the same way the capitalist tells the exploited worker that he, too, would be rich if he only worked harder, so does the Chad tell the sexual proletariat that they could have sex if they were only just a little more confident. In this way, the sexual proletariat are blamed for their own oppression - their celibacy is a result of their own moral failings, because they were not "confident" enough. The Chad-Bourgeois present themselves as having earned the pussy they inherent, while the rest of the world deserves to live without. Confidence is just one example of how sexual capitalism distorts culture and creates false narratives to keep people blind.
      
      Normies love false narratives because they are bribed. A normie, who may have even had sex, believes that his success in the past means the confidence narrative and so on is true - he can truly be a Chad, if he works hard enough! Thus the normies convince themselves Chad's world is not only fair but desirable, because they too might have a chance of being chad.
      
      Normies are deceived to varying degrees.
      
      A regular normie has had their bribe a few times and doesn't bother to think about the realities of exploitation and the sexual economy. These normies can be blackpilled with evidence, but most of them just double down on the false consciousness due to their hope that they can be a Chad.
      
      A beta is a normie who is faced with the reality of sexual inequality. He may be an orbiter, hanging around women in the hope he'll get sex. He may be a nice guy, who is nice to women for the same reason. He may be cucked, whereby he shares a single woman with other men so that he can at least get laid. Though he may deny it, he is painfully aware of these material and sexual realities.
      
      A white knight has come against a blackpill before, and it scared them. They swing the other way - they actively try and spread Chad's narrative and enforce it, because they are trying convince themselves. There is great overlap between white knights and Betas, as the latter often exhibit white knight behavior. Many Betas turn into white knights when confronted with the black pill.
      
      All normies have one thing in common - they do not want to accept the reality of the blackpill because they want to continue to believe they can be Chad. Another element is that they enjoy Chad's narrative when it suits them - regarding incels. They don't like to remember that Chad is sexually more successful then them because he is just better....but that's not so bad if it means that they are better than incels in turn, since they at least "earned" some sex and incels could not! In economic capitalism, the reality of economic status defined by class is ignored in favor of an individualist, democratic narrative, and sexual capitalism works the same way. The realities of incels and the Chad-Bourgeois are overlooked in favor of the lie that it's all about individual action, that any individual can work his way to the top of the sexual marketplace through hard work and imaginary concepts like "confidence."
      
      By the methods described above, the Chad-Bourgeois extract all of the surplus value - in this context, surplus pussy - from the workers/sexual proletariat for themselves, and maintain the system through bribing normies and creating false consciousness. But here's where it gets really interesting - the immortal science of historical materialism explains even more than this.
      
      Everyone knows that even among Chads there is a hierarchy - a racial hierarchy, with white Chad at the top. In the 1960s, Comrade Mao Zedong developed Marxist-Leninist-Maoism to explain the differences between the first world and the third world. Maoism reveals the first world exploits the third world through imperialism, and sets up a global class hierarchy of sorts. This economic hierarchy in turn ties into a sexual hierarchy - one where the imperialist white Chads are above the colonized Chads. A critique of imperialism explains the racial Chad hierarchy - which, of course, filters down into the sexual proletariat as well.
      
      Following this trend, we can see the close interconnection between looks (Chad privilege) and economic success. Females like money and power...and it seems Chad ends up with those as well.
      
      We all know that studies have proven Chads are much more likely to succeed in economic sphere. They are given quality jobs and often end up in very social, very prestigious positions like executive officers. But this shows us that wealth comes second. Poor Chads still dominate the sexual proletariat, and their poverty, on average, never lasts long. In other words, sexual inequality comes before economic inequality, and due to how intertwined they are, it means that economic inequality is a consequence of sexual inequality due to society's constant preference for Chad. Sexual inequality predates economic capitalism, feudalism, even primitive tribalism - sexual inequality is the original and eternal form of hierarchy, it is harbinger of all other inequalities in other areas.
      
      Thus, the Revolutionary and Immortal Science of Marxist-Rodgerism is born. We see that the fundamental conflict is between the well endowed Chad-Bourgeoisie and the sexual proletariat, and that all other conflicts ultimately derive from this great inequality. We see that the Chad-Bourgeois manipulates culture and society to further its narratives and worldview to maintain this power structure. Finally, we must conclude that the only way forward for humanity is to dismantle the system of sexual capitalism so that sex can be distributed fairly to all members of society.
      
      Incels of the world, rise up! You have nothing to lose but your chains!
      
      
      u/Communecel

• Is Marxism Rodgerism like Stalinism and the USSR?
  • Marxism Rodgerism will make it the government's responsibility that each man gets a monogamous virgin female life partner.
  • The government must ensure that each man can afford to get married and can afford married life
  • Beyond that, a Marxist Rodgerist state can have any economic system:
    • Gilded age capitalism?
    • EU style technocratic capitalism?
    • Corporatism?
    • Stalin style centralised Socialism with Gosplan autarky?
    • Yugoslavian style socialism (capitalism with worker owned companies)?
  • Anything is fine as long as inceldom is prevented.
• How will it work?
  • We will buy farmland in a country with poor rule of law and an excess of young women (Kazakhstan, Cambodia, Laos, Mali, Angola)
  • We will create a community by, for and of Incels. Perhaps called Incelistan. Perhaps called Inceldia or Incelvania.
  • We will obtain women. There are legal and illegal ways to do this, and obviously I only support legal ways.
  • Legal ways include :
    • Adopting children, once they're mature they can marry someone other than their step-father.
    • Letting economically vulnerable women exchange monogamy for financial security.
    • Using religion to draw in women.
    • Getting JBWmaxxers like It'sOver to bring his harem to Incelistan. We can marry his daughters.
  • Illegal (no-no) ways include:
    • My lawyer has advised me not to elaborate on this part
  • If non-virgin women somehow fall under our umbrella, they will not be allowed to be wives. However, they can be concubines. They will only be allowed to have daughters via sex selective abortion. These daughters will be virgins and can become an incel citizen's wife
  • Sex selective abortion for concubines will create an excess of young women. These women can be offered as wifes to incels who choose to immigrate to Incelistan
  • Men born in Incelistan will be guaranteed a virgin wife. Men who immigrate to Incelistan may be required to pay a brideprice in order to help Incelistan grow.
  • We can grow the economy by using Western education to maximise farming yields and sell primary products such as foodstuffs and minerals, metals, etc
  • As the economy grows, we can enter manufacturing and service sectors
  • Government funded HGH could be given to manlet children and Dr. Mike Mew can be invited to teach all the tallcels how to chew
  • With greater power, we could use CRISPR gene editing to eventually remove the genes for ugliness and hypergamy out of the genepool, creating a new species of beautiful people who are loyal to their romantic partners
  • Eventually, after perhaps as little as a century, we could have artificial wombs
• Won't this be dysgenic?
  • It's dysgenic to allow Chads to impregnate all the women and make them single mothers. Children of single mothers have worse life outcomes overall, statistically speaking, and the science of epigenetics shows that those raised under these unhelpful conditions will be passing on worse genes than the ones they received
  • Ugly and short women get laid all the time, and their terrible genes continue to spread as long as they have daughters.
  • Chads like Justin Beiber can have genetic diseases that doesn't effect their looks and pass it on to hundreds of children with unlimited sexual access
  • Although Chads can be smart, the dumbest Chads sire the most children, and women are attracted to dumb Chads with low impulse control. Free sexuality will lead to more and more low-inhibition darktriadmaxxing criminals to populate society
• Won't eugenics fix inceldom instead?
  • Hypergamy floats. If you have eugenics without monogamy, you get better looking incels. Still incels though. The only solution to end lonliness is government enforced monogamy.
• Won't Islam fix inceldom?
  • Islam allows for polygyny, that means rich Chads can marry four wives, which in turn creates three incels. This cannot be accepted.
  • Islam allows for divorce, meaning your wife can leave you and monkey branch to a richer Chad
  • Islam requires you to pay Mahr / Mehr before getting married, a brideprice. This makes it impossible for poor men to escape inceldom.
• Isn't Marxism feminist?
  • Not inherently, no. Karl Marx kicked out a feminist called Victoria Woodhull from the movement because she spent all of the time talking about normalising slutting around, adultery, fornication, etc, instead of focusing on economic issues.
  • Most Marxists are Gynocentric and feminists
  • Marxism Rodgerism is Androcentric and about making life better for men
• How will women be assigned?
  • This is a matter of much debate and I am not going to force my opinion on anyone
  • In the far future, artificial wombs may allow for Giga-Staceys for each and every man
  • Gene editing may also allow for designer babies in the future
  • At the start, there are a few ways women can be distributed. The following is not an exhaustive list:
    • Matching couples based on looksmatch decided by either a Blackpill Department or a face scanning AI
    • Psychometric personality tests to determine compatibility
    • Genetic tests to screen for inheritable diseases
• How will women be prevented from being Chad chasing cum dumpsters?
  • They will be prevented from exiting the house like in Ancient Greece
  • They will be surveilled upon by the Incel Intelligence Agency (IIA) 24/7 to track their movement and ensure they do not interact with men they are not related to
  • If taken outside, they will wear blindfolds to prevent them from seeing Chad
  • With advanced technology, Augmented Reality and Mixed Reality goggles will be worn by them to prevent them from seeing anyone other than their husband or men they are related to
  • Brain implants may be used by psychologists to condition women into never thinking about cheating or Chad
  • In a century or two, the genes for cheating and hypergamy may be removed from women entirely
• This is impossible!
  • Rome was founded by incels - just look at how they started : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rape_of_the_Sabine_Women
  • Terrorist groups, criminal gangs, and militias all around the world are already offering women to new recruits:

    • In northern Nigeria, where polygamy is rife, Boko Haram still arranges cheap marriages for its recruits.
      
      

      

      Why polygamy breeds civil war

      When large numbers of men are doomed to bachelorhood, they get desperate

      www.economist.com

      
      It's already happening around the world.

    • 

      How ISIS Is Using Marriage as a Trap

      One way to ensure that the fighters do not leave is to create anchors to ensure they will stay: a job, a house, a wife and a child.

      www.huffpost.com

  • Humans once considered sailing, flying, combustion engines, space travel, democracy, electronic communication, and more to be impossible. Nothing can stop the human spirit. Believe in yourself!

TLDR:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6qzInnjinE



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xPMYeb80bo

 

[mlcurrycel]

@Pajeetsingh

 

[Darius L]

Rome was founded by incels - just look at how they started

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/8uEflAGbUuY?feature=share

 

[Pajeetsingh]

Based, users here seems to be against 'marxism' not marxism rodgerism, failures of ussr, china or whatever has nothing to do with rodgerism. They should read this post instead of sperging out strawmans.

 

[mlcurrycel]

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/8uEflAGbUuY?feature=share

Damn straight


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IJkZrwyuX0

 

[Darius L]

Damn straight


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IJkZrwyuX0

Based.

 

[Darius L]

You think the looksmatch theory should be applied in inceldia? At least, at first?

 

[mlcurrycel]

You think the looksmatch theory should be applied in inceldia? At least, at first?

It will be up for a vote. Every Incelistani citizen (all men of course) will get a vote

 

[Darius L]

It will be up for a vote. Every Incelistani citizen (all men of course) will get a vote

Voting rights should be based on androcentric behavior points, if you behave gynocentrically (simpish behavior, jestermaxxing), you'ld get warnings in addition to less voting rights, until they get stripped away completely if you keep on it.

 

[_meh]

Foids and libs would suddenly stop being "socialists" if there was a redistribution program of female partners.

I mean it's only if there's going to be control exerted over the economics sphere may as well be the same for the social sphere. It's pretty or kinda fair on both ends. This is true EQUALITY.

 

[tulasdanslos]

Voting rights should be based on androcentric behavior points, if you behave gynocentrically (simpish behavior, jestermaxxing), you'ld get warnings in addition to less voting rights, until they get stripped away completely if you keep on it.

Court jesters are respected figures. Why the fuck would making people laugh be "gynocentric"?

And as for the OP:

 

[Darius L]

Why the fuck would making people laugh be "gynocentric"?

 

[tulasdanslos]

As intellectually flaccid as your leader I see.

 

[mlcurrycel]

Foids and libs would suddenly stop being "socialists" if there was a redistribution program of female partners.

I mean it's only if there's going to be control exerted over the economics sphere may as well be the same for the social sphere. It's pretty or kinda fair on both ends. EQUALITY.

 

[Darius L]

As intellectually flaccid as your leader I see.

 

[mlcurrycel]

Court jesters are respected figures. Why the fuck would making people laugh be "gynocentric"?

And as for the OP:

Jestermaxxing has a specifc meaning in the incel community. Please check out incels.wiki

 

[mlcurrycel]

As intellectually flaccid as your leader I see.

Dude, you believe in Athena. Wanna show her to me?

 

[mlcurrycel]

@Caesercel I humbly present this thread for your consideration:

 

[mlcurrycel]

Foids and libs would suddenly stop being "socialists" if there was a redistribution program of female partners.

I mean it's only if there's going to be control exerted over the economics sphere may as well be the same for the social sphere. It's pretty or kinda fair on both ends. EQUALITY.

 

[Ricordanza]

This is just religion with extra steps

 

[mlcurrycel]

This is just religion with extra steps

Religions have polygyny, nunneries, brideprice, etc. This is a government guarantee for pussy. No religion has ever promised this. Hinted, sure, but never promised.

 

[PersonalityChad]

Inkwells of the world, unite!

 

[Darius L]

Religions have polygyny, nunneries, brideprice, etc. This is a government guarantee for pussy. No religion has ever promised this. Hinted, sure, but never promised.

Do you think male ugliness should be maintained to preserve inceldia?

 

[mlcurrycel]

Incelistanis GTFIH:

@Indari

@ilieknothing

@Savage

@Murdoch89

@PoodankMcGee

@AlexAnguish

@armis

@Gyros_Pretcel

@hollowcel

@IncelKing

@Cannibal

@Transcended Trucel

@Macrocephalus

@BlackPill Scholar

@Wilfred

@LeFrenchCel

@cutthroat

@Subhuman0ne

@Heartless

@wei#3959

@BPJ

@Rotter

@rottingricecel

@decembrist_kirillov

@blackpillednigga

@LesscoBlob

@Shrek

@AsgardTheFatcel

@5ft4ropeconnoisseur

@subhuman

@Nikalas

@-TheRinku127-

@Pajeetsingh

@tankcel

@Michael W. Ford

@Feminism Sucks!

@Waco

@_meh

@5iveFoot6ixCel

@Grim_Reaper

@Incedel

@N14

@Cursed one

@Spongebozz

@30klhlvwizard

@Kentuckycel

@jeetcel

@Spergz

@oakhaigh






@MarquisDeSade

@Suicel

@IronsideCel

@Pandaemonium

@Darius L

@Heartless

@Pillow City Rev

@PotatoTomato

@Michael15651

@rabitter

@PPEcel

@Atavistic Autist

@TheGambler2

@78980n

@Dionysus

@Yerberito

@Lv99_BixNood

@Incel_Because_Short

@Legionarivs

@FarCel

@Incelius Savage

 

[based_meme]

You'd need to be a nuclear superpower to even entertain these ideas. The Western, gynocentric globohomo world would clamp down so hard, the spirit of Moamar Gaddafi would be laughing at how fast Indeldia/Incelistan gets invaded and dismantled as a state.

 

[mlcurrycel]

Do you think male ugliness should be maintained to preserve inceldia?

I don't think ugliness inherently makes someone good. Ugly people are expected to be polite all the time and are reprimanded if they show any confidence. I think the fact that ugly people aren't handed anything that makes them more likely to be polite, courteous, etc.

 

[mlcurrycel]

You'd need to be a nuclear superpower to even entertain these ideas. The Western, gynocentric globohomo world would clamp down so hard, the spirit of Moamar Gaddafi would be laughing at how fast Indeldia/Incelistan gets invaded and dismantled as a state.

America couldn't beat a bunch of goat herders who fucked little boys. We'll be fine.

The gynocentric world is literally falling apart. America won't be around in a few decades.

We won't announce ourselves immediately. We will grow in the shadows.

 

[Lonelyus]

• What is Marxism Rodgerism?
  • Marxism Rodgerism is the belief that incels should create a government that takes on the responsibility of abolishing lonliness, inceldom, cheating, and paternity fraud by any means necessary, including state assigned wives.
• Why is it called Marxism Rodgerism?
  • I started using this name to piss off IncelTears. A more accurate moniker would be Marxism-Houellebecqism.
• Who created Marxism Rodgerism?
  • Drawing comparisions between economic and sexual inequality has been around for quite a while. At the very least, the 1994 French novel "Extention of the Domain of Struggle" by Michel Houellebecq applies:
    
    
  • @Communcel on r/incels also drew comparisions between the Chads and the Capitalists, pointing out that both Chads and Capitalists experienced the pleasures of life without working for it, while normies and incels subsidised the existence, choices, and lifestyles of women in a similar manner to workers in factories, farms, and warehouses are who make trips to space possible for Jeff Bezos:
• Is Marxism Rodgerism like Stalinism and the USSR?
  • Marxism Rodgerism will make it the government's responsibility that each man gets a monogamous virgin female life partner.
  • The government must ensure that each man can afford to get married and can afford married life
  • Beyond that, a Marxist Rodgerist state can have any economic system:
    • Gilded age capitalism?
    • EU style technocratic capitalism?
    • Corporatism?
    • Stalin style centralised Socialism with Gosplan autarky?
    • Yugoslavian style socialism (capitalism with worker owned companies)?
  • Anything is fine as long as inceldom is prevented.
• How will it work?
  • We will buy farmland in a country with poor rule of law and an excess of young women (Kazakhstan, Cambodia, Laos, Mali, Angola)
  • We will create a community by, for and of Incels. Perhaps called Incelistan. Perhaps called Inceldia or Incelvania.
  • We will obtain women. There are legal and illegal ways to do this, and obviously I only support legal ways.
  • Legal ways include :
    • Adopting children, once they're mature they can marry someone other than their step-father.
    • Letting economically vulnerable women exchange monogamy for financial security.
    • Using religion to draw in women.
    • Getting JBWmaxxers like It'sOver to bring his harem to Incelistan. We can marry his daughters.
  • Illegal (no-no) ways include:
    • My lawyer has advised me not to elaborate on this part
  • If non-virgin women somehow fall under our umbrella, they will not be allowed to be wives. However, they can be concubines. They will only be allowed to have daughters via sex selective abortion. These daughters will be virgins and can become an incel citizen's wife
  • Sex selective abortion for concubines will create an excess of young women. These women can be offered as wifes to incels who choose to immigrate to Incelistan
  • Men born in Incelistan will be guaranteed a virgin wife. Men who immigrate to Incelistan may be required to pay a brideprice in order to help Incelistan grow.
  • We can grow the economy by using Western education to maximise farming yields and sell primary products such as foodstuffs and minerals, metals, etc
  • As the economy grows, we can enter manufacturing and service sectors
  • Government funded HGH could be given to manlet children and Dr. Mike Mew can be invited to teach all the tallcels how to chew
  • With greater power, we could use CRISPR gene editing to eventually remove the genes for ugliness and hypergamy out of the genepool, creating a new species of beautiful people who are loyal to their romantic partners
  • Eventually, after perhaps as little as a century, we could have artificial wombs
• Won't this be dysgenic?
  • It's dysgenic to allow Chads to impregnate all the women and make them single mothers. Children of single mothers have worse life outcomes overall, statistically speaking, and the science of epigenetics shows that those raised under these unhelpful conditions will be passing on worse genes than the ones they received
  • Ugly and short women get laid all the time, and their terrible genes continue to spread as long as they have daughters.
  • Chads like Justin Beiber can have genetic diseases that doesn't effect their looks and pass it on to hundreds of children with unlimited sexual access
  • Although Chads can be smart, the dumbest Chads sire the most children, and women are attracted to dumb Chads with low impulse control. Free sexuality will lead to more and more low-inhibition darktriadmaxxing criminals to populate society
• Won't eugenics fix inceldom instead?
  • Hypergamy floats. If you have eugenics without monogamy, you get better looking incels. Still incels though. The only solution to end lonliness is government enforced monogamy.
• Won't Islam fix inceldom?
  • Islam allows for polygyny, that means rich Chads can marry four wives, which in turn creates three incels. This cannot be accepted.
  • Islam allows for divorce, meaning your wife can leave you and monkey branch to a richer Chad
  • Islam requires you to pay Mahr / Mehr before getting married, a brideprice. This makes it impossible for poor men to escape inceldom.
• Isn't Marxism feminist?
  • Not inherently, no. Karl Marx kicked out a feminist called Victoria Woodhull from the movement because she spent all of the time talking about normalising slutting around, adultery, fornication, etc, instead of focusing on economic issues.
  • Most Marxists are Gynocentric and feminists
  • Marxism Rodgerism is Androcentric and about making life better for men
• How will women be assigned?
  • This is a matter of much debate and I am not going to force my opinion on anyone
  • In the far future, artificial wombs may allow for Giga-Staceys for each and every man
  • Gene editing may also allow for designer babies in the future
  • At the start, there are a few ways women can be distributed. The following is not an exhaustive list:
    • Matching couples based on looksmatch decided by either a Blackpill Department or a face scanning AI
    • Psychometric personality tests to determine compatibility
    • Genetic tests to screen for inheritable diseases
• How will women be prevented from being Chad chasing cum dumpsters?
  • They will be prevented from exiting the house like in Ancient Greece
  • They will be surveilled upon by the Incel Intelligence Agency (IIA) 24/7 to track their movement and ensure they do not interact with men they are not related to
  • If taken outside, they will wear blindfolds to prevent them from seeing Chad
  • With advanced technology, Augmented Reality and Mixed Reality goggles will be worn by them to prevent them from seeing anyone other than their husband or men they are related to
  • Brain implants may be used by psychologists to condition women into never thinking about cheating or Chad
  • In a century or two, the genes for cheating and hypergamy may be removed from women entirely
• This is impossible!
  • Rome was founded by incels - just look at how they started : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rape_of_the_Sabine_Women
  • Terrorist groups, criminal gangs, and militias all around the world are already offering women to new recruits:
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  • Humans once considered sailing, flying, combustion engines, space travel, democracy, electronic communication, and more to be impossible. Nothing can stop the human spirit. Believe in yourself!

TLDR:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6qzInnjinE



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xPMYeb80bo

Just call it Mark Rodgers and get done with it

 

[Darius L]

I don't think ugliness inherently makes someone good. Ugly people are expected to be polite all the time and are reprimanded if they show any confidence. I think the fact that ugly people aren't handed anything that makes them more likely to be polite, courteous, etc.

I understand that, but don't you think men getting progressively more good looking would lead to them being entitled pieces of shit, as we already know that it's just beauty standards, but literal areas in the brain that recognizes which faces are more good looking and when thr men get more good looking, they will inherently know it, and they will lean on it, feel more arrogant, this might eventually pose an existential threat to the state

 

[mlcurrycel]

I understand that, but don't you think men getting progressively more good looking would lead to them being entitled pieces of shit, as we already know that it's just beauty standards, but literal areas in the brain that recognizes which faces are more good looking and when thr men get more good looking, they will inherently know it, and they will lean on it, feel more arrogant, this might eventually pose an existential threat to the state

I am scared of the Chads inside each generation, not of the Chadliness of future generations.

It's being at the top of the looks hierarchy that makes people assholes.

Plus, Western culture has become the most looks obsessed in history. We will have a different culture.

What's really scary is if we are too successful and our grandchildren start thinking they don't need enforced monogamy. That's what really keeps me up at night.

 

[Darius L]

I am scared of the Chads inside each generation, not of the Chadliness of future generations.

It's being at the top of the looks hierarchy that makes people assholes.

Plus, Western culture has become the most looks obsessed in history. We will have a different culture.

What's really scary is if we are too successful and our grandchildren start thinking they don't need enforced monogamy. That's what really keeps me up at night.

Maybe the founding generation needs to tax the masses to fund tissue engineering and longevity r&d. Basically to live forever and preserve the state.

 

[based_meme]

America couldn't beat a bunch of goat herders who fucked little boys. We'll be fine.

JFL, if you think the towelheads "won." That chunk of land has every nuclear superpower vying for control and influence, because of the trillion dollar worth of minerals, which China desperately needs to establish dominance in tech manufacturing.

USA lost and China won, not the sub 80 IQ donkey fuckers.

The gynocentric world is literally falling apart. America won't be around in a few decades.

America isn't the gynocentric world. Most of Europe is way worse. There is literally a misogyny law in the UK and it's the reason why @mental_out deleted his account.

We won't announce ourselves immediately. We will grow in the shadows.

No, you won't. NATO has eyes and ears everywhere. The CIA and MI6 both have operatives in every single country and area of interest. You won't be able to hide anything, not even if you're a James Bond style villain in a secret island with an underground complex.

Face reality. Nobody gives a shit about incels. Trying to establish yourself as a political force for incels will only put targets on your back, because governments fear revolts and losing control of the fighting age male populace.

As I said, your only shot in hell is to become a nuclear superpower (already a pipe dream with NATO watching), and then maybe you can implement these policies without caring about the REEEs of the "international community."

 

[Darius L]

only shot in hell is to become a nuclear superpower

This.

 

[mlcurrycel]

I understand that, but don't you think men getting progressively more good looking would lead to them being entitled pieces of shit, as we already know that it's just beauty standards, but literal areas in the brain that recognizes which faces are more good looking and when thr men get more good looking, they will inherently know it, and they will lean on it, feel more arrogant, this might eventually pose an existential threat to the state

Okay wait. I think youre saying that the halo effect will weaken discipline on good looking generations. You're right about that.PPerhaps highly codified and strict social mores can stop this. Like Japan. Better yet once we can,we can fund psychological research on this.

 

[based_meme]

Okay wait. I think youre saying that the halo effect will weaken discipline on good looking generations. You're right about that.PPerhaps highly codified and strict social mores can stop this. Like Japan. Better yet once we can,we can fund psychological research on this.

The problem is that what he's describing is ingrained at a kernel level. Even babies recognize and stare at prettier faces, long before they're able to be socialized out of staring. It's innate, and no amount of CRISPR gene editing can alter that. Likewise, you can't edit out hypergamy in females and polygamy in males, because that too is too deeply ingrained in our evolution.

 

[mlcurrycel]

JFL, if you think the towelheads "won." That chunk of land has every nuclear superpower vying for control and influence, because of the trillion dollar worth of minerals, which China desperately needs to establish dominance in tech manufacturing.

USA lost and China won, not the sub 80 IQ donkey fuckers.


America isn't the gynocentric world. Most of Europe is way worse. There is literally a misogyny law in the UK and it's the reason why @mental_out deleted his account.


No, you won't. NATO has eyes and ears everywhere. The CIA and MI6 both have operatives in every single country and area of interest. You won't be able to hide anything, not even if you're a James Bond style villain in a secret island with an underground complex.

Face reality. Nobody gives a shit about incels. Trying to establish yourself as a political force for incels will only put targets on your back, because governments fear revolts and losing control of the fighting age male populace.

As I said, your only shot in hell is to become a nuclear superpower (already a pipe dream with NATO watching), and then maybe you can implement these policies without caring about the REEEs of the "international community

Taliban didn't win? Then who are the clowns dressed up in abandoned American gear? Sounds like mayocel cope.

What do you want me to do? Buy a nuclear bomb from Bulgaria like VICE did? I don't speak Bulgarian.

We'll be fine, don't worry. There's too much chaos for them to focus on us.

 

[mlcurrycel]

The problem is that what he's describing is ingrained at a kernel level. Even babies recognize and stare at prettier faces, long before they're able to be socialized out of staring. It's innate, and no amount of CRISPR gene editing can alter that. Likewise, you can't edit out hypergamy in females and polygamy in males, because that too is too deeply ingrained in our evolution.

We just have to find a way to release more oxycotin during pair-bonding. Just that would help a lot. And I'm optimistic scientists will find new ways as well.

 

[Darius L]

We just have to find a way to release more oxycotin during pair-bonding. Just that would help a lot. And I'm optimistic scientists will find new ways as well.

Most likely solution to this problem would be to mass fund r&d in semisynthetic state-designed babies as soon as the inceldian state is established, men would be designed to be ogres or too masculine looking, females would be designed as jb gigastacies.

 

[mlcurrycel]

Most likely solution to this problem would be to mass fund r&d in semisynthetic state-designed babies as soon as the inceldian state is established, men would be designed to be ogres or too masculine looking, females would be designed as jb gigastacies.

We should also discuss childhood indoctrination .

 

[Darius L]

childhood indoctrination .

This is a must, not only that, it's absolutely essential to create a whole new cyberspace that is totally controlled by the inceldian state and completely free of the gynocentric filth.

 

[mlcurrycel]

This is a must, not only that, it's absolutely essential to create a whole new cyberspace that is totally controlled by the inceldian state and completely free of the gynocentric filth.

We need to show ThinkingApe / Stardusk videos in school, starting from primary school. Not once a week, once a day. Kids will write a one page summary.

 

[mlcurrycel]

This is a must, not only that, it's absolutely essential to create a whole new cyberspace that is totally controlled by the inceldian state and completely free of the gynocentric filth.

You should create a thread about this. Should we use www.mgtow.tv as a model?

 

[Darius L]

You should create a thread about this. Should we use www.mgtow.tv as a model?

Maybe, but I was thinking of something greater, a WHOLE NEW "INTERNET". Every single corner of the cyberspace available for the inceldian citizen. Every single second of being online.

 

[mlcurrycel]

Maybe, but I was thinking of something greater, a WHOLE NEW "INTERNET". Every single corner of the cyberspace available for the inceldian citizen. Every single second of being online.

Hm yes I've heard Russia, North Korea, China and Iran were planning something like this? Is that what you're talking about? Incelistan has its own websites, citizens cannot access websites other than Incelistani ones?

Or are you talking about internet connected brain implants? I'm getting confused

 

[mlcurrycel]

Maybe, but I was thinking of something greater, a WHOLE NEW "INTERNET". Every single corner of the cyberspace available for the inceldian citizen. Every single second of being online.

By the way, did the mass tagging I did give you a notification?

 

[mlcurrycel]

This should be pinned

Thank you

 

[Darius L]

By the way, did the mass tagging I did give you a notification?

When I was banned? Yes

 

[Darius L]

Hm yes I've heard Russia, North Korea, China and Iran were planning something like this? Is that what you're talking about? Incelistan has its own websites, citizens cannot access websites other than Incelistani ones?

Or are you talking about internet connected brain implants? I'm getting confused

What china, russia, iran, north korea are doing would look very primitive in comparison. We shouldn't worry about it now, we will get there when we get there.

 

[Darius L]

Also, I don't think citizens should be allowed to own females, not in the first two decades at least. Their brains would still be contaminated by the gynocentric brainwashing and will be probably turned into simps after the first bj they get. Females should be confiscated and distributed for public use through taxpayer-funded brothels, and should only be allowed 3hrs weekly.

 

[mlcurrycel]

Also, I don't think citizens should be allowed to own females, not in the first two decades at least. Their brains would still be contaminated by the gynocentric brainwashing and will be probably turned into simps after the first bj they get. Females should be confiscated and distributed for public use through taxpayer-funded brothels, and should only be allowed 3hrs weekly.

If prostitution is allowed, we need to track the genetics of prostitutes to prevent inbreeding