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Theory The Marxism-Rodgerism FAQ

Christianity has too much forgiveness in it to control women

If you're coping with inceldom by believing Jesus will take you to heaven, that's fine. I'm here to debunk the cope that Christianity can stop hypergamy :

Despite the edicts of canon law and the real risk of punishment, it appears that unrestrained sexual activity was quite common throughout Europe during these times. In fact, most did not believe fornication was a sin at all, and many were taken by surprise at confession when priests informed them that they had indeed sinned by committing certain sexual acts. St. Vincent Ferrer (1350-1419) claimed that by age fifteen, all young men had lost their virginity (Richards, 38). There are also suggestions that rural populations were much more accepting of illicit sexual behavior, and that country folk were viewed as much more "free" sexually than urban dwellers (Richards, 36). Lastly, although premarital sex was obviously considered sinful by the church, in reality, once couples were betrothed, they often slept together during a sort of "trial period" before the wedding. That way, if one or both were not satisfied with the results, they might still attempt to release themselves from future consent to marry (sometimes by becoming godparents of the same child, a relationship which would lead to an incestuous union) (Brundage, 436-7).


Medieval Christianity was not a pious time with no extramarital sex and no incels
 
@Gyros_Pretcel Did my mass tagging give you a notification?
 
If prostitution is allowed, we need to track the genetics of prostitutes to prevent inbreeding
All of their eggs would be harvested to grow the next generation in labs.
 
All of their eggs would be harvested to grow the next generation in labs.
That's a fascinating idea. That's how Dolly the sheep was cloned right? Combining natural eggs with artificial wombs is way easier than artifical eggs. We already have artificial wombs for sheep.
 
That's a fascinating idea. That's how Dolly the sheep was cloned right? Combining natural eggs with artificial wombs is way easier than artifical eggs. We already have artificial wombs for sheep.
Exactly.
 
If we blackpill a few bluepilled incel scientists, we could even succeed in 50 years. If St Elliot is on our side, maybe even faster
 
If we blackpill a few bluepilled incel scientists, we could even succeed in 50 years. If St Elliot is on our side, maybe even faster
Most scientists just side with the winners, they don't really have any actual political opinions or social convictions, they're lab rats.
 
The amount of effort required to fix the current sexual market is more than the amount of effort required to make your own sexual market.
 
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I just want to guillotine rich people and put sex havers in gulags

ussr GIF
 
I just want to guillotine rich people and put sex havers in gulags

ussr GIF
Inventors and scientists will be respected.

People like Wozniak will rule the world. People like Steve Jobs shall be put in their place.
 
  • Why don't we just wait for collapse in the West and then find women?
    • Just because the economy collapses doesn't mean men still won't simp for women.
    • Even if we live in a Mad Max scenario, what's stopping some Chad warlord from stealing and hoarding all the women?
    • Even if he shares a few with his soldiers, he'll be creating incels by not enforcing monogamy on everybody
    • Chads will be more high-T, they will be low inhib.
    • Sporty Chads will be fitter and stronger than rotting incels.
    • Chads will find it easy to recruit and lead other men. The dystopia will be Chads competing with each other by sacrificing incel men in firefights
 
The amount of effort required to fix the current sexual market is less than the amount of effort required to make your own sexual market.
MORE.
The amount of effort required to fix the current sexual market is MORE than the amount of effort required to make your own sexual market.
 
@PPEcel Vote yes mang
 
To be honest, coming from Cho's neo-juchecel doctrine, today I'm more of a anarcho-Sodinist with Minassianist tendencies.
 
To be honest, coming from Cho's neo-juchecel doctrine, today I'm more of a anarcho-Sodinist with Minassianist tendencies.
Uh okay, vote yes for monogamy
 
Uh okay, vote yes for monogamy
I'm against any socialization between men and women, especially marriage. Foids should be kept in cages, inside breeding barns, and regularly inseminated like the animals they are.
 
The more I read, the more I'm convinced Marxist-Rodgerism is the way, we need to further discuss certain topics and create a whole literature which will be used in the future.
 
The more I read, the more I'm convinced Marxist-Rodgerism is the way, we need to further discuss certain topics and create a whole literature which will be used in the future.
It's the only system that can guarantee ascension for 100% of men (given enough time, power and resources).
I created a thread asking for a Marxism Rodgerism subforum.
We may even need a website on the Dark Web one day. Using FLOSS communication software to discuss ideas.
 
How will it work?
  • We will buy farmland in a country with poor rule of law and an excess of young women (Kazakhstan, Cambodia, Laos, Mali, Angola)
  • We will create a community by, for and of Incels. Perhaps called Incelistan. Perhaps called Inceldia or Incelvania.
  • We will obtain women. There are legal and illegal ways to do this, and obviously I only support legal ways.
  • Legal ways include :
    • Adopting children, once they're mature they can marry someone other than their step-father.
    • Letting economically vulnerable women exchange monogamy for financial security.
    • Using religion to draw in women.
    • Getting JBWmaxxers like It'sOver to bring his harem to Incelistan. We can marry his daughters.
  • We can grow the economy by using Western education to maximise farming yields and sell primary products such as foodstuffs and minerals, metals, etc
  • As the economy grows, we can enter manufacturing and service sectors
  • Government funded HGH could be given to manlet children and Dr. Mike Mew can be invited to teach all the tallcels how to chew
  • With greater power, we could use CRISPR gene editing to eventually remove the genes for ugliness and hypergamy out of the genepool, creating a new species of beautiful people who are loyal to their romantic partners
  • Eventually, after perhaps as little as a century, we could have artificial wombs
@MarquisDeSade
 
It's interesting to note that with the collapse of ancient Greek democracy or even ancient Roman republicanism a form of monarchy and autocracy emerged. If neo-liberal capitalism is responsible for the advent of the modern day sexual marketplace with its out of control sexual hypergamy it could be argued that a new kind of autocracy will emerge from the ruins of a failed and collapsed neo-liberal world order. With that a new male patriarchy emerges from the ruins of a collapsed sexual marketplace system that was spawned from neo-liberalism itself. :society:

I'll wait for somebody to come in this thread and actually explain to me how capitalism, libertarianism, or even fascism benefits incels, of course nobody can. :feelshaha:

The only way to deal with feminism is authoritarian socialism and communism, single women will have to be redistributed amongst single men. I call that sexual communism.

There is virtually no solution to feminism under capitalism, libertarianism, or even fascism. We essentially live in a corporate welfare state of fascism right now in the west which is why I laugh when people say fascism is the political solution, how do you solve the problems of living under fascism with even more fascism? :feelsjuice:
@MarquisDeSade I think you agree with me
 
Court jesters are respected figures. Why the fuck would making people laugh be "gynocentric"?
putting in effort for a foid is just a waste of time that benefits them more then u and is no good on a societal scale
 
Based, users here seems to be against 'marxism' not marxism rodgerism, failures of ussr, china or whatever has nothing to do with rodgerism. They should read this post instead of sperging out strawmans.
who here could possibly be against Rodgerism?
 
I'm 100% behind Marxism-Rodgerism and am ready to die for it. Alternatively it could be called Charles Fourier Thought.
 
One possible road-block I see with this is that it requires a substantial amount of resources. Visa's, are usually working visa's requiring a job, or in some countries retirement class visa's where you have to be both old and spend like 100K for a Visa.

If someone has the resources and influence capability to be part of this and make it happen, it's probably easier for them to move to a 3rd world country and get a wife, and not have to worry about creating a system that the global world wide woke mob will hunt down, lobby the government to do something about, and get canceled.

As far as systemic solutions. Sex Robots, and maybe growing humans I guess. There's a question of how much human DNA makes a human. Human DNA could be spliced with animals to make hybrids that perhaps don't count as human legally. But a legal business solution of some how mass producing "women" like creatures/robots or "women" like experiences (VR with sufficiently detailed haptic) has more incentives for the creators, because they could become billionaires.
 
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You'd need to be a nuclear superpower to even entertain these ideas. The Western, gynocentric globohomo world would clamp down so hard, the spirit of Moamar Gaddafi would be laughing at how fast Indeldia/Incelistan gets invaded and dismantled as a state.
True jfl
 
@SupremeGentleCel supremegentlecel
 
@SupremeGentleCel supremegentlecel
You were right when you said, that Christianity is way too lenient with women.
Majority of Christian men I personally know, are cucked and consumed too much soy.
 
You were right when you said, that Christianity is way too lenient with women.
Majority of Christian men I personally know, are cucked and consumed too much soy.
It was like that before the 1960s too. J.D. Unwin, the anthropologist, said that when Christianity arrived to island tribes, they stopped checking women's virginity at marriage. The condemnation of promiscuity replaced the actual prohibition.

Christianity is fundamentally about forgiveness, and humans are predisposed to forgive women because of neoteny, hypoagency, and female in-group bias.

Any Christian society that is uncucked does so by basically ignoring Christianity. The more Christian it becomes, the more it tolerates whores and prostitutes. Just look at Leo Tolstoy and Dostoevsky writing novels about sympathetic whores, influenced by French Catholics doing the same thing. The redeemed whore and the stripper with a heart of gold is at the core of Christianity.
 
It was like that before the 1960s too. J.D. Unwin, the anthropologist, said that when Christianity arrived to island tribes, they stopped checking women's virginity at marriage. The condemnation of promiscuity replaced the actual prohibition.

Christianity is fundamentally about forgiveness, and humans are predisposed to forgive women because of neoteny, hypoagency, and female in-group bias.

Any Christian society that is uncucked does so by basically ignoring Christianity. The more Christian it becomes, the more it tolerates whores and prostitutes. Just look at Leo Tolstoy and Dostoevsky writing novels about sympathetic whores, influenced by French Catholics doing the same thing. The redeemed whore and the stripper with a heart of gold is at the core of Christianity.
My motto is and will always be:
If her bodycount is above 0 before marriage, she´s a whore

I literally can´t stand non-virgin women, and find them naturally repulsive.
That has absolutely nothing to do, with me being a virgin myself and having no experience with women.

I think a real masculine man with balanced hormones and T-levels, will find non Virgins disgusting.
Men have deep desire to pair bond, you simply can´t have that with ran through whores.
 
My motto is and will always be:
If her bodycount is above 0 before marriage, she´s a whore

I literally can´t stand non-virgin women, and find them naturally repulsive.
That has absolutely nothing to do, with me being a virgin myself and having no experience with women.

I think a real masculine man with balanced hormones and T-levels, will find non Virgins disgusting.
Men have deep desire to pair bond, you simply can´t have that with ran through whores.
When I first came to the West, I was disgusted at the idea of putting your dick in a hole where another man had already put his dick. It took a lot of Hollywood propaganda for me to lose that disgust before I became JustBeFirstpilled again
 
When I first came to the West, I was disgusted at the idea of putting your dick in a hole where another man had already put his dick. It took a lot of Hollywood propaganda for me to lose that disgust before I became JustBeFirstpilled again
I am white, born and raised in the West.
I´ve always believed in the JustBeFirstPill, despite me being exposed to propaganda, promoting degeneracy on a daily basis.
I think it´s human instinct to be disgusted by it,
In nature you can´t do STD tests, therefore you don´t know whether the previous man she had sex with, contaminated her with that filth.
In nature you would also avoid these women, to protect yourself (my theory).
 
I am white, born and raised in the West.
I´ve always believed in the JustBeFirstPill, despite me being exposed to propaganda, promoting degeneracy on a daily basis.
I think it´s human instinct to be disgusted by it,
In nature you can´t do STD tests, therefore you don´t know whether the previous man she had sex with, contaminated her with that filth.
In nature you would also avoid these women, to protect yourself (my theory).
A lot of the sexual cues that men are attracted to are actually cues of never being pregnant before, like hip to waist ratio, nipple colouration, etc.
 
Someone made a page on it

I believe it was @Pajeetsingh good brocel brother. https://incels.wiki/w/Template:Blackpill
@mlcurrycel u should add it to the template here.
 
Yeah I did
I think maybe something should be added to the framecel section about biacromial and clavicles. Also shoulder to hip as framecel pill is very important have u been frame pilled yet boyo?

It’s not just about wide clavicles it’s also about narrow waist/hips to shoulder ratio as well
 
When I first came to the West, I was disgusted at the idea of putting your dick in a hole where another man had already put his dick. It took a lot of Hollywood propaganda for me to lose that disgust before I became JustBeFirstpilled again
The only non-virgin women who should be forgiven for it are those who were raped or widows, as those are circumstances outside their control.
Everything else is immorality, and you would be getting used goods.
 

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