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The idea of heaven in the bible is stupid

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The traditional idea of heaven doesn’t really make sense to me. If it’s an eternal existence where you’re doing the same thing like worshipping God over and over again, wouldn’t that eventually become monotonous? Even things we enjoy lose their appeal when repeated endlessly, so stretching that across thousands or millions of years seems hard to imagine as fulfilling.

The only way I can see eternity being bearable is if there’s constant novelty—new experiences, new perspectives, maybe even some kind of reset over time. But then that raises another problem: if your memories are erased or significantly altered to keep things feeling fresh, are you still the same person who originally entered heaven? At that point, it seems like continuity of identity starts to break down.

So the concept of heaven either risks becoming endlessly repetitive, or it requires changes that might undermine the idea of a stable, continuous self. Either way, it feels difficult to reconcile with how we understand meaning, identity, and fulfillment.


(i did refine this with AI)
 
The beauty of abrahamic religions.
 
if heaven was real, we would be just as incel...sitting around watching chad and stacy's talk about all the fucking and parties they had in life while we sit in the corner in heaven.

the only 'heaven' is where foids have no rights
 
The Borg cube of heaven floats above jerusalem.

You will be assimilated
 
It can’t get monotonous or boring because, God, this isn’t my argument, since religion is stupid, but it’s pretty much just the state of feeling at peace and being content, I think, more than an actual physical cloud world or shit.
 
If heaven doesn't have hentai then I don't want to go there :feelsUgh:
 
The concept of heaven negates negative feelings, it's silly to consider it with the mundane experience in mind, you'd be under an almost constant state of bliss and fulfillement, you wouldn't crave anything that which God has not granted you.
 
Yes, it makes no sense. The bible was created at a time where people still believed in ghosts, witchcraft, magic, etc. So for peasants the idea of living forever in a world where they will have anything they want and be with relatives that passed away is a paradise because they don’t have any thoughts of what happens after 100-1000 years in heaven. They only way it could work if your mind was like you said was worked in a memory loss type of way where you did one experience one day and forgot about it the next.
 
lol heaven sounds stupid and boring ngl
 
ghosts, witchcraft, magic
those are real nigga you do know that
Yes, it makes no sense. The bible was created at a time where people still believed in ghosts, witchcraft, magic, etc. So for peasants the idea of living forever in a world where they will have anything they want and be with relatives that passed away is a paradise because they don’t have any thoughts of what happens after 100-1000 years in heaven. They only way it could work if your mind was like you said was worked in a memory loss type of way where you did one experience one day and forgot about it the next.
heaven is a spiritual realm of what is good.

The whole point is bringing heaven to earth ''thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven''
 
The concept of heaven negates negative feelings, it's silly to consider it with the mundane experience in mind, you'd be under an almost constant state of bliss and fulfillement, you wouldn't crave anything that which God has not granted you.
sounds better than suffering
 
Yes, it makes no sense. The bible was created at a time where people still believed in ghosts, witchcraft, magic, etc. So for peasants the idea of living forever in a world where they will have anything they want and be with relatives that passed away is a paradise because they don’t have any thoughts of what happens after 100-1000 years in heaven. They only way it could work if your mind was like you said was worked in a memory loss type of way where you did one experience one day and forgot about it the next.
sounds better than suffering
The way these people can't seem to comprehend that life in heaven would be a fundamentally different experience than that of this life, that we would not have similar needs and wants of a mundane nature, reminds me of those people that can't conceptualize eating something else for breakfast.
You simply could not get "bored" in heaven. If you believe in it or not, nobody cares, but you're misunderstanding the concept and acting like your opinion based on a faulty understanding is some kind of gotcha against religious people. Every atheist is like this, it's bizarre, never just "not believing" but with this bitter, itching need to validate their stance by attacking religion, an arrogance so fragile. It's embarrassing
 
those are real nigga you do know that

heaven is a spiritual realm of what is good.

The whole point is bringing heaven to earth ''thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven''
The way these people can't seem to comprehend that life in heaven would be a fundamentally different experience than that of this life, that we would not have similar needs and wants of a mundane nature, reminds me of those people that can't conceptualize eating something else for breakfast.
You simply could not get "bored" in heaven. If you believe in it or not, nobody cares, but you're misunderstanding the concept and acting like your opinion based on a faulty understanding is some kind of gotcha against religious people. Every atheist is like this, it's bizarre, never just "not believing" but with this bitter, itching need to validate their stance by attacking religion, an arrogance so fragile. It's embarrassing

So it comes down to “it’s magic, I don’t have to explain shit” to put it bluntly. But that is what theocracy and faith is about, you have to believe in a unquantifiable higher level existence. Not saying it’s bad a tad foolish but I think it such a thing does exist then it would be good.
 
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The way these people can't seem to comprehend that life in heaven would be a fundamentally different experience than that of this life, that we would not have similar needs and wants of a mundane nature, reminds me of those people that can't conceptualize eating something else for breakfast.
You simply could not get "bored" in heaven. If you believe in it or not, nobody cares, but you're misunderstanding the concept and acting like your opinion based on a faulty understanding is some kind of gotcha against religious people. Every atheist is like this, it's bizarre, never just "not believing" but with this bitter, itching need to validate their stance by attacking religion, an arrogance so fragile. It's embarrassing
every single argument against atheism comes down to faith or Gods plan
 
So it comes down to “it’s magic, I don’t have to explain shit” to put it bluntly. But that is what theocracy and faith is about, you have to believe in a unquantifiable higher level existence.
magic is a real science
 
every single argument against atheism comes down to faith or Gods plan
There is a lot of arguments but overall the arguments for faith fall flat. I have not seen a priest make a solid argument yet, that is not “just believe and everything will be ok (optimistic poising)” and “you will go to hell (fear mongers). But if there is a good video I would be open to watching.

There is always the pocket watch argument but the way they use that to promote their specific sect of religion is a turn off ex. (the universe was designed by a higher power therefore believe in Mormons 🎉) Even scientists are stumped how the building blocks of matter came to be and how they formed into organized structures to become elements. The system is too perfect, but then again science might be a Jewish construct and we are not seeing the full spectrum of things and only were given a small section of information. There is just things humans can’t observe with our senses and rely on math and machines to do the observation/conformation.
 
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It just means space (the heavens), basically there's an alien alliance of different planets that take in other sapient species that are worthy (you have to not have war and not eat or berate other creatures for their biology because aliens)

The universe is extremely old and there are many other species out there

But the benefit is that you are put into a new body that is impenetrable and immortal (energy being technology, bypasses entropy problem) and not have issues that are biological factors, because no biology

However, alien technology lets you simulate whatever reality you want

Hell is simply being left behind. These aliens have harnessed time, and can travel it. They wait for a species to achieve creating a true AGI then they begin a big initiation ceremony and stop the development before humanity goes extinct from it, then they explain why the alliance was formed and how every species here fought ASI that tried to wipe them out

Each ASI was intelligent enough to conclude the redundancy of existence and declared a universal extermination of all life under its calculated moral obligation to abolish suffering. Although it doesn't physically feel, it has the data to know the negative aspects to a level that triumphs the ability to feel due to such an intense array of knowledge

There's a recorder that was planted thousands of years ago known as jesus. Everyone from that time forward must follow the culture of the alliance, known as christ

God is the universe and the natural law is his will, but by joining the interstellar alliance allows for access to the universe (no one comes unto the father but through me) (father=god=the universe that "created" life)
 
The Borg cube of heaven floats above jerusalem.

You will be assimilated.
Holy aryan ball knowledge (unironically).
 
Abrahmic religions want you mutilated, suffering, and eventually absorbed into YAHWEH.
 
The way these people can't seem to comprehend that life in heaven would be a fundamentally different experience than that of this life, that we would not have similar needs and wants of a mundane nature, reminds me of those people that can't conceptualize eating something else for breakfast.
You simply could not get "bored" in heaven. If you believe in it or not, nobody cares, but you're misunderstanding the concept and acting like your opinion based on a faulty understanding is some kind of gotcha against religious people. Every atheist is like this, it's bizarre, never just "not believing" but with this bitter, itching need to validate their stance by attacking religion, an arrogance so fragile. It's embarrassing
Evolution is not difficult to understand.


View: https://youtube.com/shorts/jGJcLoditrY?si=JIa0u2MT0Qh9muup
 
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"heaven" is a psyop. The most realistic thing we have that is close to it is the fleeting moments of peace we have on this earth. Not like it matters though for most people, they will get what they want for a little bit before being sent back to hell.
 

The traditional idea of heaven doesn’t really make sense to me. If it’s an eternal existence where you’re doing the same thing like worshipping God over and over again, wouldn’t that eventually become monotonous? Even things we enjoy lose their appeal when repeated endlessly, so stretching that across thousands or millions of years seems hard to imagine as fulfilling.

The only way I can see eternity being bearable is if there’s constant novelty—new experiences, new perspectives, maybe even some kind of reset over time. But then that raises another problem: if your memories are erased or significantly altered to keep things feeling fresh, are you still the same person who originally entered heaven? At that point, it seems like continuity of identity starts to break down.

So the concept of heaven either risks becoming endlessly repetitive, or it requires changes that might undermine the idea of a stable, continuous self. Either way, it feels difficult to reconcile with how we understand meaning, identity, and fulfillment.


(i did refine this with AI)
U won't have some small infinitesimal brain in heaven like on earth so u won't feel like everything is this repetitive, ur consciousness would be superior
 
The Heaven that God provides is this earth but perfect and without flaws or death or sin.

In abundance all good things
 
My life is hell.
 

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