At the time I was on self confidence forums and forums on how to meet women.
We made fun of people on PUA HATE forums. I was out in bars getting constant
rejections, listening to puas - who were paying models to speak to them.
At the time I was on self confidence forums and forums on how to meet women.
We made fun of people on PUA HATE forums. I was out in bars getting constant
rejections, listening to puas - who were paying models to speak to them.
Funny, I did the same, lurked there around 2010 when inceldom was hittin me the worst
That is technically true in terms of the definition of love-shy, but practically, the vibe was very similar to here. A lot of the guys there were extremely depressed, LDARing, users roping was quite common there. It didn't have the self improover vibe of other incel spaces back then. I remember users on incel-support being aggressively, annoyingly pro-self improovment
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I was a member of loveshy 16 years ago. You are partially right. It was not explicitly an incel forum, but it played a major role in growth of self identified incels. Loveshy's were men that were supposedly too shy to approach woman and were also to shy to reciprocate interest.
However love-shy did allow incels on. There was a significant growth on incels on there. Loveshy was started in August 2003 by Loveshycom , a British man who was a 43 year old virgin. He managed to miraciously beat the odds and got a gf and left . Loveshy eventually shut down in January 2020.
PuaHate was active since 2009. The whole looks over personality crew/ redpill took off in 2010/2011. That was due to two posters.. Hitquit , a north African with one lay who was very frustrated that he could not replicate his only success. And Chinpoko, a Estern European/Baltic gymcel who was Jacked as fuck. He was also balding badly and that affected him quite a bit. Ironically Chinpoko had a gf.
Then Faceandlms joined PuaHate in May 2012 , and as they say, the rest is history.
There was also a yahoo chat group on datelessness 15 years ago ( I was apart of it). Altogether I've known about the incelsphere or been apart of it in some way since 2006.
I'm still in disbelief that the word has become mainstream. I feel as if I am in the twilight zone!
This has been athing since the early 2000s i thought this was getting more internet attraction around 2012-2014
Elliot was being angered by TYGER. Tyger would call him a cuckold. Erasiantigar was a
guy who hated white women with asian men, and Elliot was a product of that which he hated.
In a way the incel movement has anti-white racism roots.
I am pretty sure there was pro BBC
and white women propaganda going out as well?
Elliot hated the fact he was half asian. His first murders were the two asian
guys in his apartment, it was almost like he was trying to expel the asian out of him by
killing them. He then went out and couldn't get into the soronity house, panicked,
and then killed those women and that guy. At that point it was killing by proximity.
Brootal. Elliot forum posts were so funny though. I remember his posts on bodybuilding.com/misc
me, @Morphine , @Emba And @WacoGoesDown here since 67'
The problem with Elliot Rodger was he didn't put the effort in. He wasn't really an incel.
He was part of the minority of incels who didn't really try.
Unfortunately there is a majority demographic who can't get dates despite trying for YEARS.
These people haven't gone on mass killings - and unfortunately are paired with the same brush
as those who never try.
Elliot Rodger often talked about how beautiful he was but women didn't want him. Obviously
he knew his spectrum disability was a factor.
''I thought some people would agree with me on here, but you're all just a bunch of trolls.''
Above is a post by Elliot Rodger - he was often bullied even on a incel forum. He was also
abandoned by his father.
The truth is - Elliot Rodger needed help and no one helped him. No one helps men who
have mental health issues. Where are the people who help incels? They want to actively
throw you in prison. They are on the forum perhaps waiting - they don't care about you
they will use you for a PROMOTION.
There are two types of incels : those who WANT to be incels and those who DON'T.
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You didn’t talk about incels on Reddit where this community was from. There were lots of incels who were fed up with foreveralone cause of how cucked it is so subreddits like foreverunwanted and truecels were made and then there was of course the big one of r/incels where all our words like blackpill, mog, roastie etc was made. r/incels was banned and of course this place was made and there was also braincels on Reddit and braincels eventually got banned.
I am surprised too. When I first found Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project, maybe one hundred people in the entire world had heard of the word incel. Now many, many millions know the word.
The first time I realized the word incel was mainstream was when I saw one of my friends in real life (who is not an incel) write the word incel on facebook circa 2015.
Elliott Rodger's real problem was he was Stacy only.
I didn't write about r/incels because I was never a part of it. After I got banned from the premier incel board in 2008 (which was probably before the existence of reddit), I took a twelve year hiatus until 2020.
I was around when the original incel board began (which was probably either before you were born or when you were a prepubescent child) in 2000 though. So I think I am qualified to write about the history of the online incelsphere in the very beginning.
That sounds gay and fakecel-ly.
Elliot Rodger had no help in how to navigate his autism and make connections
with women. Obviously there is a market for dating management for autistic men,
I am talking about dating management and not PUA - but obviously society
doesn't want to help incels - they want to throw them in prison. It's a fact
considering that 50% of men in prison in the uk are on the neuro-divergent scale.
Did you read his manifesto? He would regularly complain about how he’d see below average curry and Asian men with blonde white women at his college and it would send him into a rage.
One part of his manifesto he wrote about he even threw hot coffee on an Indian male white female couple at his college Starbucks through his BMW window
His manifesto was top tier comedy in some parts, but yeah his problem was never his FACE he was just non-NT and autistic.
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Translation: His problem was never his face. He was just a fakecel.Did you read his manifesto? He would regularly complain about how he’d see below average curry and Asian men with blonde white women at his college and it would send him into a rage.
One part of his manifesto he wrote about he even threw hot coffee on an Indian male white female couple at his college Starbucks through his BMW window
His manifesto was top tier comedy in some parts, but yeah his problem was never his FACE he was just non-NT and autistic.
His problem was that he was Stacy only.
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Elliot Rodger can't completely be called a fakecel, he experienced real dejection, even from his best friend — but he was a mentalcel, HAPAcel and standardcel. His background was also economically affluent. We all know the trope of incels being called standardcels for not dating a landwhale, but he really was a standardcel. (which is a type of fakecel.) He could have easily found a short Asian girlfriend that was his looksmatch, but he insisted on blonde cheerleaders. When they rejected him too many times in his attempts at cold approaching them, he became suicidal. (and insisted on dragging strangers down with him) "If I can't have this, I don't want anything!" It's obvious from his memoir alone (which exhaustively covers his entire life and especially his social experiences and rejection from girls) that he never made a serious effort to date a girl that would've been more attainable for him. He focused on girls out-of-reach, then snapped.
I've read his memoir and he's quite clear about his insistence on the most typical conventionally attractive popular blonde girl, and his racism in general. At one point he becomes enraged at the sight of a Mexican guy with a white girl at a restaurant. He was racist to full Asians on the forums he would post on, (none of which were incel forums, a term he never mentioned once) lambasting them simply for being Asian on both sides, invoking his European half. (link) He didn't like the thought of a full Asian dating a white girl, and (unlike his father, ironically enough) wasn't willing to date an Asian himself. He killed three Asian incels - his two roommates and their friend, before going on to do the rest of his massacre and recording his last video.
Normies just bring Elliot Rodger up to smear incels, as if we are all "entitled" and violent. (read this) Not only are the men who actually go through with suicide a minority, cases like him where there is a mass-shooting are especially an anomaly - and again, he never identified as an incel and himself murdered three incels. He clearly had a personality disorder, genuine narcissism - something was really off with him. From his memoir we know enough about his life to know his parents and upbringing can't be blamed, he also had a sister. (though it's true that often girls come out more normal than guys for reasons that aren't to be blamed on boys/men) I agree with Crumplar when he said Elliot Rodger was a product of a racist and inegalitarian society, but he really was a nasty, racist kid who actually saw his massacre to random civilians as "payback" for some blondes not being interested in him. Some people are born with screws missing. Read this, and if you have more time the original post he replied to.
At the end of the day, people who think like Crumplar who chalk up the matter to him being "awkward" and bring intersectionality into it are just being mystifying because most white girls really would reject him for being half Asian. But there's no reason he couldn't have dated an Asian himself, besides his own blatant, self-admitted white supremacy. It's hard for people to simultaneously acknowledge the actual extent of "racism" (discrimination based on characteristics is really an innate trait that itself explains how various ethnicities came to be, but instead this is usually put under the conceptual framework the word "racism" implies along with ideological racists) in society while also being willing to call out individual racists. Usually you get actual racists, or politically correct Liberals who pretend to be opposed to racism, exaggerate and invent racism where it doesn't exist, while denying actual pervasive examples of racism (women in general) in society with pretense.
(I'm more saying in a real sense it really does come down to this. Yet, at the same time, I explained why I don't disagree with people who call him a standardcel. I prefer to emphasize how normies use him against us. He was just one spoiled kid, like Defectivecuckachu said.)
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Another thing that was not around from 2000 to 2008 are the names Chad, Stacy, and Becky.
He believed women should approach him and called himself beautiful. He was not a mental cel,
he was simply applying a fake confidence persona in order to not feel rejection.
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