He's a sick fuck if he does exist
The Lord is Merciful and Just. He is All-Good, All-Righteous, and the one and only Master of the Day of Judgement, He needs no partners beside Him.
I wish to be as delusional as you
premise 1: something can't come from nothing
premise 2: something exists
therefore nothing has ever existed
premise 2: something exists
therefore nothing has ever existed
he’s not provable or disprovable
Sorry, goats are Chaddam only.
its provable only through philosophy imo
There's some kind of impossible - yet simple - chemical reaction that some lifeform does that cannot be faked or synthetically done.
Might be related to vitamin c?
Unfortunately, I forgot what it is. But I think its in a book where evolution is debunked back in the late 1800s.
Might be related to vitamin c?
Unfortunately, I forgot what it is. But I think its in a book where evolution is debunked back in the late 1800s.
There will never be "proof" for god in any way, just copes. I can do mental gymnastics to prove I'm the ruler of the universe
yeah but the epicurean paradox is tough to solve. the only “solution” is; we are all naturally evil and deserve the suffering we get
i disagree obv
And worshipping the jews as the gods and ruler of the universe is a good thing? The cosmic dictator that tells you to mutilate the most important part of your body under the threat of hell (how loving
)? Kill yourself.
No, not that fakeass fraud.And worshipping the jews as the gods and ruler of the universe is a good thing? The cosmic dictator that tells you to mutilate the most important part of your body under the threat of hell (how loving
The org creator.
Real gods don't love jewsAnd worshipping the jews as the gods and ruler of the universe is a good thing? The cosmic dictator that tells you to mutilate the most important part of your body under the threat of hell (how loving
[5:82] You will find that the worst enemies of the believers are the Jews and the idol worshipers. And you will find that the closest people in friendship to the believers are those who say, “We are Christian.” This is because they have priests and monks among them, and they are not arrogant.
[5:83] When they hear what was revealed to the messenger, you see their eyes flooding with tears as they recognize the truth therein, and they say, “Our Lord, we have believed, so count us among the witnesses.
You don’t need science just believe. Science is just a tool used to make earthly life easier
Low IQ sandnigger babble
.org creator is @Master
I believe in Jesus Christ, my Lord and my God.
Jesus Christ is a human. A saint. The messiah. The anointed king (Christos Rex) of the messianic age, that will last a thousand years. But he is not God. Don't get the two confused. The Lord wants no names mentioned beside Him.
I guess Jesus will technically be your king for a thousand years if you believe in the Messianic Age, but he is not The King.
You mean Yakub?
I would rather burn in hell with my brothers then be in heaven with my enemy's
No not that cockwasher
christianity is more plausible than islam. i’m agnostic but im sure that christianity is pretty plausible
It is impossible that anyone is greater than or equal to God.
The creation cannot succeed the Creator.
i don’t want to get into the holy trinity, i see it as illogical aswell but its virtually redundant to argue against it in present day. However christians have a good case for the 12 disciples, and how they all claim to have saw Jesus resurrect and died for that “truth”.
Miracles are obviously real. The Quran is one. That's not the point. What I'm saying is the entire reason we are even here to begin with is to test those who choose Satan's Dominion and those who choose God's Kingdom, and the way to do that is to see whether we will put up idols or we will worship God Alone, and Satan of course will try to get us to worship idols such as Jesus, Muhammad, Abraham, you name it, also he will plot to convince us to transgress against God thereby rejecting Him.
How do you entertain the impossible nature of divine hiddenness? people don't choose to believe/doubt (you don't choose to believe grass is green), this means sufficient reason is relative to the individual. human predisposition is where sufficient reason for beliefs form. this is literally why religions are segregated by countries, people aren't free to find your evidence as sufficient to convert to islam because they're predisposed to not find it sufficient.
Take your champ Muhammed Hijab or whatever. he's a seemingly well read guy but his disposition makes it impossible for him to believe in the proposition of evolution. this is fucking crazy since there's more evidence for evolution than there is for Noah's Ark or the existence of Abraham. this means, if evolution was a monotheistic god, you and mr. Hijab would be tortured in hell forever and i'll be up in heaven with a Capri-sun pussy loel
Take your champ Muhammed Hijab or whatever. he's a seemingly well read guy but his disposition makes it impossible for him to believe in the proposition of evolution. this is fucking crazy since there's more evidence for evolution than there is for Noah's Ark or the existence of Abraham. this means, if evolution was a monotheistic god, you and mr. Hijab would be tortured in hell forever and i'll be up in heaven with a Capri-sun pussy loel
A lot of words. The Mathematical Miracle of the Quran is the only, keep this in mind, the only indisputable proof of God. There are a gorillion other proofs (I have also included them, attached to the thread, in a pdf, not compiled by me), that are disputable, but the Miracle is the only indisputable one.
You need also understand that God is doing everything, He wills who believes and who doesn't, He created the Jews, and the Arabs, and the Christians, and everybody else, He already saw the future before creating us, so He knows and decides who will receive mercy and who - painful retribution.
Never began (literally)
Everything in the hereafter will say the truth, and the only thing the disbelievers accept as true is pain. If you ask them, “does it hurt?”, they will say “oh, yes it hurts,” and so finally they will speak the truth and the truth shall prevail and falsehood will vanish. This has been the purpose since the beginning – to make the truth prevail over falsehood, and if the disbelievers are going to speak the truth only regarding their pain, then it will be so. The truth will ultimately prevail, which is the purpose of existence.
High IQ aryan eloquence
he's choosing who believes and who doesn't? at that point cut the middle man and send random people he doesn't like to hell. like the chinese, swedes, Jews, people of thailand, etc. shouldn't god just create a fucking mob farm of thailand people.
you're talking about a mathematical miracle but isn't there a.. The Problem of Awl? is that also a miracle?
Well, in a way. The Lord already knew who will go to Hell and who will go to Heaven, so He created those people who will burn for eternity as fuel for running the rivers in Heaven, and whatever other amenities there are, because He saw all possible worlds/futures and chose the best possible one. They deserve it anyway.
>But more importantly the disbelievers are supposed to feel pain, because God has promised to make the truth prevail. Everything in the hereafter will say the truth, and the only thing the disbelievers accept as true is pain. If you ask them, “does it hurt?”, they will say “oh, yes it hurts,” and so finally they will speak the truth and the truth shall prevail and falsehood will vanish. This has been the purpose since the beginning – to make the truth prevail over falsehood, and if the disbelievers are going to speak the truth only regarding their pain, then it will be so. The truth will ultimately prevail, which is the purpose of existence.
There's no problem, God said to write a will.
Thanks. Peace be upon you.
you're stripping away his lovingness because you can. most regular people would defend the claim of his lovingness but you don't have any need for that. that strips any argument of moral wickedness away, doesn't it? your merciful god tortures people based on their improbable nature of finding god due to the way in which they were cognitively built. these filthy non-believers didn't even have to do anything, they were just victims of some dumbass who got fooled by a snake.
your god is not all loving.
Ask God to give me a girlfriend for free
You don't get it. You call God unjust, when He is the standard of Justice... The thing is, He is the only one that deserves to exist. Who else? The fact that we have been present on this earth and enjoyed the material pleasures (also that we were present in Heaven billions of years ago) ultimately means we deserve eternal Fire, because we are sinful. The original sin is refusing to worship God. And we don't deserve to exist by the simple fact of our own nature, unlike our Creator, who is the Greatest, the Magnificent, the Glorious, the Forgiver, the Merciful, the Giver of Life, the Honorable, the Holy (the untouchable), the Grateful, the Gracious... Then, why should not a being, such as us, which does not have sufficient reason to exist on it's own, and does not worship the only being which does, God, be cast as fuel into a Flame, to eternally power the Heavens, and give forever rest to God and the angels. It is you who are unjust, as you suggest to have the righteous (angels, let alone God) work endlessly for the benefit of the unrighteous (the devils, the disbelievers.)
you are a cult member. sorry mate, none of this seems compelling. you're not as bad as you may love to make yourself out to be. religious people constantly do this, so fucking odd.
I wanted to ask though, if your god is just and we're only being tortured for our sinful behavior, why did your loving god create conditions that maximize suffering for animals as well? why do all animals get predated on, suffer through disease and succumb to death on large scales? why did god create 5 major extinction events? when bears usually hunt prey, they don't have the evolutionary pressure of grabbing at the neck or killing it first because of it's holy fuck mass. due to this process god created, many animals that get attacked by a bear get eaten alive. these animals have to lay there and suffer pain it can't comprehend, unable to grasp that your loving god Allah put him there cause we ate an apple. give me a break, you don't find this sufficient reason to at least.. doubt it? a little?
in your religion, people talk of "the heart blackens", your heart has blackened so much it's unable to grasp or care. which takes us back to my first point, you don't choose what you deem sufficient reason
God can sooooook muh dihh
All you have to do in order to understand "god" is to look at the world around you. He is the designer of the food chain.
The one that would accept literal animal sacrifices in the old testament as offerings.
There isn't anything "good" about him.
If he was so kind and loving he wouldn't throw you into a material realm designed for you to suffer.
The one that would accept literal animal sacrifices in the old testament as offerings.
There isn't anything "good" about him.
If he was so kind and loving he wouldn't throw you into a material realm designed for you to suffer.
God can sooooook muh dihh
Why would Allah appoint a man, who bent over for zutts to fuck him up the ass, as humanity's perfect role model? Boom, scientifically disproven.
The claim “original sin is refusing to worship” is false scripturally and historically.
In Genesis, the “sin” is disobedience, not failure to worship.
Furthermore, we were not “in Heaven billions of years ago.”
This is Gnostic fan-fiction, not mainstream Christianity.
Their metaphysics are incoherent even within their own religion.
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I feel the same way.
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If you think about it science does fully back up the Bible .
So science says that matter was so concentrated that it's own force caused rapid expansion.Then hence the big bang .
The Bible says that in the beginning there profound emptiness of matter as does science Then God said let light exist ,the big bang.
Although the Bible and science disagree on creation as opposed to one thing evolving from the next ,the line of succession is the same.
Science says first came small sea life then big sea life and then land animals and finally humans .The Bible has the same line of creationion.
So science says that matter was so concentrated that it's own force caused rapid expansion.Then hence the big bang .
The Bible says that in the beginning there profound emptiness of matter as does science Then God said let light exist ,the big bang.
Although the Bible and science disagree on creation as opposed to one thing evolving from the next ,the line of succession is the same.
Science says first came small sea life then big sea life and then land animals and finally humans .The Bible has the same line of creationion.
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