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Throughout my time on the internet, and in real life, I have encountered multiple different forms of dating advice, and one recurring factor about the typical advice we are given by people—be it sexually successful men, women, or people in general—is the fact that their advice is often contradictory; it seems as if every piece of dating advice we receive contradicts the last one. This is not a surprise and is typical of the people who criticize us, as they are illogical and incapable of providing consistent explanations to various intersexual dynamics, and because they refuse to acknowledge integral factors that dictate the chances of whether their advice bears fruit or not (those factors being physical attractiveness and "good" genetic material in general).

For instance, we are told cold approaching is good, and that we should be confident ("just shoot your shot bro!")—but the second you do it, you're creepy, weird, entitled, and "harassing" her for simply daring to speak in public. Then they pivot and say, "No no inkel, cold approach is outdated and creepy, instead, try warm approaching through mutual friends or other means." But apparently, that’s manipulative, because now you were just pretending to be friendly when really you were trying to get in her pants. In either case, they always have an excuse to fall back on—one that lets them pin the blame on the man and absolve women of any guilt for their vile, superficial, hypergamous behavior. They then offer further advice, which inevitably leads to failure, followed by contradictory advice—either from them or others—that keeps you running in circles.

Then there's the modern classic: "Just use dating apps!"

The same dating apps where inhumanly superficial women filter 95% of men out without a second thought—all due to immutable physical traits. But when you mention how brutal the stats are, suddenly the same people say, "Well dating apps aren't real life, don't take them seriously." — which is obviously incorrect, as dating apps are merely a reflection of female nature without any restraint, but I digress.

So which is it? Cold approach? Warm approach? Dating apps? Real life? This is water, but none of them work unless you’re Chad.

The reason the advice is contradictory is because they can’t admit the truth that looks are the primary factor. That it’s Chad’s innate physical characteristics that determine whether an approach is "confident and sexy" or "creepy and predatory." It’s his attractiveness that makes warm approaches seem "genuine and romantic" rather than "manipulative and perverted." Since they are incapable of admitting (or comprehending) this fundamental factor—their advice often becomes inherently contradictory. Also, in many cases it’s not even just about contradictory advice due to lack of cognizance of the factors at play; it’s that they maliciously want it to be contradictory. If the truth about female nature became widely accepted, the consequences would be detrimental to say the least. The confusion is intentional. It keeps men in the game, trying every method, thinking success is just around the corner if you "act right." It’s like dangling a carrot in front of a donkey to keep it moving. Meanwhile, for chad—all the aforementioned advice works perfectly well.

If Chad cold approaches, he’s charming.

If Chad warm approaches, he’s smooth.

If Chad uses dating apps, he gets matches with ease.

Hell, Chad gets approached himself by women.

But you? You get told to "just be yourself" while every single method you're told to try comes with a trapdoor underneath. And when it fails (because you have been deemed a subhuman by women), the blame gets pinned on you for “not trying hard enough,” “having a bad personality,” or whatever nonsense they typically spew.

The blackpill is the only consistent explanation. Every other explanation falls apart under its own contradictions.

To me, this demonstrates how weak their worldview and fundamental understanding of intersexual dynamics truly is; it is riddled with inconsistencies and weak explanations that attempt to justify the undesirable outcomes—ones that directly contradict their claims. They respond with further contradictions, all while failing to acknowledge one central factor that underlies the rest, which is measurable, consistent, and reliably predictive. Women respond to looks first and foremost, then retroactively assign positive personality traits after attraction is established. This is not due to better execution but due to the observer’s perception, which is heavily colored by the man’s physical traits. It's post-hoc rationalization for why they reward one guy and shame another.

The advice is not necessarily wrong; rather, it misses the key variable entirely, hence leading to endless contradictions and inconsistencies.
 
Yep good post, the sooner incels learn to never listen to normies "advice" the better.
 
All just to tiptoe around the fact that looks are everything. Fuck normies and fuck foids especially.
 
Also, in many cases it’s not even just about contradictory advice due to lack of cognizance of the factors at play; it’s that they maliciously want it to be contradictory. If the truth about female nature became widely accepted, the consequences would be detrimental to say the least. The confusion is intentional. It keeps men in the game, trying every method, thinking success is just around the corner if you "act right." It’s like dangling a carrot in front of a donkey to keep it moving. Meanwhile, for chad—all the aforementioned advice works perfectly well.
This is the reason that women and simp normies even care about anything we say. It's all about defending foids and trying to not make them look bad, they don't give a fuck about any of our problems or actually trying to help any of us so they'll throw as many theories at us to explain our lack of sexual success as ridiculous and contradictory as they may be in the hopes one will stick and we'll shut up.
 
High IQ thread, glad someone can develop these ideas further and write better than I. Just posted this in another thread but also apply here:
Every boomer's "advice", especially "touch grass", is made in bad faith. Being more shaming than advice.
 
the thing is the vast majority of people won't allocate enough attention to you and your problems to even approach real answer, what you are getting is like trying to get someone to solve a complex math problems in 3 seconds, because that's roughly the amount of thinking time that will be allocated to you
like it's pointless, you can't even get family to pay enough attention and burn brain cells on shit like this, let alone some random guy

also some dipshit old boomers can't help you anyway and they never could, keep asking them to help and you'll get your own mom and dad telling you to go get hookers
 
the thing is the vast majority of people won't allocate enough attention to you and your problems to even approach real answer, what you are getting is like trying to get someone to solve a complex math problems in 3 seconds, because that's roughly the amount of thinking time that will be allocated to you
like it's pointless, you can't even get family to pay enough attention and burn brain cells on shit like this, let alone some random guy

also some dipshit old boomers can't help you anyway and they never could, keep asking them to help and you'll get your own mom and dad telling you to go get hookers
I think the point of the post is that it's not complex at all. Conversely all their mental gymnastics to mask this simple truth are.
 
Throughout my time on the internet, and in real life, I have encountered multiple different forms of dating advice, and one recurring factor about the typical advice we are given by people—be it sexually successful men, women, or people in general—is the fact that their advice is often contradictory; it seems as if every piece of dating advice we receive contradicts the last one. This is not a surprise and is typical of the people who criticize us, as they are illogical and incapable of providing consistent explanations to various intersexual dynamics, and because they refuse to acknowledge integral factors that dictate the chances of whether their advice bears fruit or not (those factors being physical attractiveness and "good" genetic material in general).

For instance, we are told cold approaching is good, and that we should be confident ("just shoot your shot bro!")—but the second you do it, you're creepy, weird, entitled, and "harassing" her for simply daring to speak in public. Then they pivot and say, "No no inkel, cold approach is outdated and creepy, instead, try warm approaching through mutual friends or other means." But apparently, that’s manipulative, because now you were just pretending to be friendly when really you were trying to get in her pants. In either case, they always have an excuse to fall back on—one that lets them pin the blame on the man and absolve women of any guilt for their vile, superficial, hypergamous behavior. They then offer further advice, which inevitably leads to failure, followed by contradictory advice—either from them or others—that keeps you running in circles.

Then there's the modern classic: "Just use dating apps!"

The same dating apps where inhumanly superficial women filter 95% of men out without a second thought—all due to immutable physical traits. But when you mention how brutal the stats are, suddenly the same people say, "Well dating apps aren't real life, don't take them seriously." — which is obviously incorrect, as dating apps are merely a reflection of female nature without any restraint, but I digress.

So which is it? Cold approach? Warm approach? Dating apps? Real life? This is water, but none of them work unless you’re Chad.

The reason the advice is contradictory is because they can’t admit the truth that looks are the primary factor. That it’s Chad’s innate physical characteristics that determine whether an approach is "confident and sexy" or "creepy and predatory." It’s his attractiveness that makes warm approaches seem "genuine and romantic" rather than "manipulative and perverted." Since they are incapable of admitting (or comprehending) this fundamental factor—their advice often becomes inherently contradictory. Also, in many cases it’s not even just about contradictory advice due to lack of cognizance of the factors at play; it’s that they maliciously want it to be contradictory. If the truth about female nature became widely accepted, the consequences would be detrimental to say the least. The confusion is intentional. It keeps men in the game, trying every method, thinking success is just around the corner if you "act right." It’s like dangling a carrot in front of a donkey to keep it moving. Meanwhile, for chad—all the aforementioned advice works perfectly well.

If Chad cold approaches, he’s charming.

If Chad warm approaches, he’s smooth.

If Chad uses dating apps, he gets matches with ease.

Hell, Chad gets approached himself by women.

But you? You get told to "just be yourself" while every single method you're told to try comes with a trapdoor underneath. And when it fails (because you have been deemed a subhuman by women), the blame gets pinned on you for “not trying hard enough,” “having a bad personality,” or whatever nonsense they typically spew.

The blackpill is the only consistent explanation. Every other explanation falls apart under its own contradictions.

To me, this demonstrates how weak their worldview and fundamental understanding of intersexual dynamics truly is; it is riddled with inconsistencies and weak explanations that attempt to justify the undesirable outcomes—ones that directly contradict their claims. They respond with further contradictions, all while failing to acknowledge one central factor that underlies the rest, which is measurable, consistent, and reliably predictive. Women respond to looks first and foremost, then retroactively assign positive personality traits after attraction is established. This is not due to better execution but due to the observer’s perception, which is heavily colored by the man’s physical traits. It's post-hoc rationalization for why they reward one guy and shame another.

The advice is not necessarily wrong; rather, it misses the key variable entirely, hence leading to endless contradictions and inconsistencies.
High IQ.
Must-Read Content tier thread.
 
I think the point of the post is that it's not complex at all. Conversely all their mental gymnastics to mask this simple truth are.
i'm talking about purely irl interactions and i've never had a long one with lots of mental gymnastics, most people just don't care, and communication over the internet should never be taken too seriously
 
men and foids aren’t friends, a man being in a friendship with a foid means being led on, and acting like an emotional tampon for all her made-up and non-existent problems, only for the hope she might like him back or develop feelings
 
Yep good post, the sooner incels learn to never listen to normies "advice" the better.
Absolutely. They are just setting us up for failure by giving false hope, and then blame us when we ultimately fail. Listening to their advice is a great way to end up disappointed and humiliated.
 
All just to tiptoe around the fact that looks are everything. Fuck normies and fuck foids especially.
Yep, but their worldview simply cannot accept this, so they will continue to ignore that fundamental factor.
 
This is the reason that women and simp normies even care about anything we say. It's all about defending foids and trying to not make them look bad, they don't give a fuck about any of our problems or actually trying to help any of us so they'll throw as many theories at us to explain our lack of sexual success as ridiculous and contradictory as they may be in the hopes one will stick and we'll shut up.
True. There's not a single genuine thought in these people's heads. It's all just empty platitudes and superficial nonsense with the intention of shutting you down in one way or another.
 
the thing is the vast majority of people won't allocate enough attention to you and your problems to even approach real answer, what you are getting is like trying to get someone to solve a complex math problems in 3 seconds, because that's roughly the amount of thinking time that will be allocated to you
like it's pointless, you can't even get family to pay enough attention and burn brain cells on shit like this, let alone some random guy

also some dipshit old boomers can't help you anyway and they never could, keep asking them to help and you'll get your own mom and dad telling you to go get hookers
I know. I've noticed it over the years how people just don't give me enough thought, at most a passing curiosity, but never a serious consideration which is depressing and quite dehumanizing. But it's more to the point of the fact that people will still try and act as though they know what's best for you—have absolutely no clue—and then proceed to blame you and offer post-hoc explanations as to how it's your fault. Just annoying really.
 
I think the point of the post is that it's not complex at all. Conversely all their mental gymnastics to mask this simple truth are.
:yes:
 
And don't forget the constant denials of your experiences by claiming that you "never actually tried" or "didn't try enough" despite you providing numerous examples of having tried in the past and the complete lack of success or anything that might make success seem plausible in the future.
 
men and foids aren’t friends, a man being in a friendship with a foid means being led on, and acting like an emotional tampon for all her made-up and non-existent problems, only for the hope she might like him back or develop feelings
I completely agree; the only reason a foid would engage with a male as a "friend" is to exploit him for attention, money, or emotional support. They have no real interest in a man as a person—only as a tool or source of validation. It's also extremely cucked since you are essentially a subservient orbiter to her, whom she perceives as beneath her, and would never consider as a human being worthy of love and affection—leaving you as a pathetic and discarded loser, meanwhile she persists with her hedonistic lifestyle and Chad chasing.
 
Throughout my time on the internet, and in real life, I have encountered multiple different forms of dating advice, and one recurring factor about the typical advice we are given by people—be it sexually successful men, women, or people in general—is the fact that their advice is often contradictory; it seems as if every piece of dating advice we receive contradicts the last one. This is not a surprise and is typical of the people who criticize us, as they are illogical and incapable of providing consistent explanations to various intersexual dynamics, and because they refuse to acknowledge integral factors that dictate the chances of whether their advice bears fruit or not (those factors being physical attractiveness and "good" genetic material in general).

For instance, we are told cold approaching is good, and that we should be confident ("just shoot your shot bro!")—but the second you do it, you're creepy, weird, entitled, and "harassing" her for simply daring to speak in public. Then they pivot and say, "No no inkel, cold approach is outdated and creepy, instead, try warm approaching through mutual friends or other means." But apparently, that’s manipulative, because now you were just pretending to be friendly when really you were trying to get in her pants. In either case, they always have an excuse to fall back on—one that lets them pin the blame on the man and absolve women of any guilt for their vile, superficial, hypergamous behavior. They then offer further advice, which inevitably leads to failure, followed by contradictory advice—either from them or others—that keeps you running in circles.

Then there's the modern classic: "Just use dating apps!"

The same dating apps where inhumanly superficial women filter 95% of men out without a second thought—all due to immutable physical traits. But when you mention how brutal the stats are, suddenly the same people say, "Well dating apps aren't real life, don't take them seriously." — which is obviously incorrect, as dating apps are merely a reflection of female nature without any restraint, but I digress.

So which is it? Cold approach? Warm approach? Dating apps? Real life? This is water, but none of them work unless you’re Chad.

The reason the advice is contradictory is because they can’t admit the truth that looks are the primary factor. That it’s Chad’s innate physical characteristics that determine whether an approach is "confident and sexy" or "creepy and predatory." It’s his attractiveness that makes warm approaches seem "genuine and romantic" rather than "manipulative and perverted." Since they are incapable of admitting (or comprehending) this fundamental factor—their advice often becomes inherently contradictory. Also, in many cases it’s not even just about contradictory advice due to lack of cognizance of the factors at play; it’s that they maliciously want it to be contradictory. If the truth about female nature became widely accepted, the consequences would be detrimental to say the least. The confusion is intentional. It keeps men in the game, trying every method, thinking success is just around the corner if you "act right." It’s like dangling a carrot in front of a donkey to keep it moving. Meanwhile, for chad—all the aforementioned advice works perfectly well.

If Chad cold approaches, he’s charming.

If Chad warm approaches, he’s smooth.

If Chad uses dating apps, he gets matches with ease.

Hell, Chad gets approached himself by women.

But you? You get told to "just be yourself" while every single method you're told to try comes with a trapdoor underneath. And when it fails (because you have been deemed a subhuman by women), the blame gets pinned on you for “not trying hard enough,” “having a bad personality,” or whatever nonsense they typically spew.

The blackpill is the only consistent explanation. Every other explanation falls apart under its own contradictions.

To me, this demonstrates how weak their worldview and fundamental understanding of intersexual dynamics truly is; it is riddled with inconsistencies and weak explanations that attempt to justify the undesirable outcomes—ones that directly contradict their claims. They respond with further contradictions, all while failing to acknowledge one central factor that underlies the rest, which is measurable, consistent, and reliably predictive. Women respond to looks first and foremost, then retroactively assign positive personality traits after attraction is established. This is not due to better execution but due to the observer’s perception, which is heavily colored by the man’s physical traits. It's post-hoc rationalization for why they reward one guy and shame another.

The advice is not necessarily wrong; rather, it misses the key variable entirely, hence leading to endless contradictions and inconsistencies.
:yes: :yes:

They just 'give advice' so we stop whining, but we'll never stop whining. It's their moral obligation/categorical imperative that they do something about inceldom if they want us to stop existing.
 
And don't forget the constant denials of your experiences by claiming that you "never actually tried" or "didn't try enough" despite you providing numerous examples of having tried in the past and the complete lack of success or anything that might make success seem plausible in the future.
Yes, or the classic: "there must be something wrong with you that is causing your lack of success in dating." (completely ignoring the most consistent and measurable factor is looks :forcedsmile: )

They are quick to blame the individual, without taking into account the fact there is a large pattern of failure; they usually do that by resorting to abstract ideas that aren't easily measurable, and that are demonstrably false.
 
They are constantly moving the goalposts. This is because they just want to fob us off while feeling better about themselves. It's an exercise in timewasting and gaslighting.
 
:yes: :yes:

They just 'give advice' so we stop whining, but we'll never stop whining. It's their moral obligation/categorical imperative that they do something about inceldom if they want us to stop existing.
Their advice is just a way to offload their own guilt while doing absolutely nothing to address the cause. If they really cared, they'd fight to change the system, not shame us for reacting to it.
 
They are constantly moving the goalposts. This is because they just want to fob us off while feeling better about themselves. It's an exercise in timewasting and gaslighting.
This exactly. It's a way to waste our time, and to put the blame on us for "not understanding their advice correctly." It's a subtle form of gaslighting, with the intention of preventing us from identifying the real problem.
 
the thing is the vast majority of people won't allocate enough attention to you and your problems to even approach real answer, what you are getting is like trying to get someone to solve a complex math problems in 3 seconds, because that's roughly the amount of thinking time that will be allocated to you
like it's pointless, you can't even get family to pay enough attention and burn brain cells on shit like this, let alone some random guy

also some dipshit old boomers can't help you anyway and they never could, keep asking them to help and you'll get your own mom and dad telling you to go get hookers
Never take advice from people who have never faced the same predicament as you
 
Their advice is just a way to offload their own guilt while doing absolutely nothing to address the cause. If they really cared, they'd fight to change the system, not shame us for reacting to it.
Yup, and it's not unique advice either, they're so lazy about it as well. They just regurgitate whatever the other normies have been saying lately. And when the general consensus about that advice turns into memes (cuz it's always bs advice), they just move on to the next useless advice and pretend the old advice doesnt exist.
They are constantly moving the goalposts. This is because they just want to fob us off while feeling better about themselves. It's an exercise in timewasting and gaslighting.
also this
 
Never take advice from people who have never faced the same predicament as you
You should definitely be wary of what they say, since they are incapable of understanding your position and the complexities of it.
 
For normies / chads, whatever they did worked. So they think same is true for everyone.

Basic thought process for sheep without a single critical thought.
 
For normies / chads, whatever they did worked. So they think same is true for everyone.

Basic thought process for sheep without a single critical thought.
Exactly. They're completely incapable, or unwilling, to consider the fact that other people have wildly different experiences and that there are other, significantly more important factors that determine one's success. When they have no issues with getting a new girl every month, they assume that the approach they took is what led to their positive results; also, I'd say this is probably because they love to attribute success to themselves, and admitting that the integral factor is a genetic one would undermine that idea—and also because they are plainly stupid, as you said.
 
Never take advice from people who have never faced the same predicament as you
Most people(foids, older men and chads) don't even understand that our situation could exist, they have no idea how inflated women's standards have become. Doubly so when it's an incel who isn't even particularly hideous but just has LTN looks.
 
Very go
Throughout my time on the internet, and in real life, I have encountered multiple different forms of dating advice, and one recurring factor about the typical advice we are given by people—be it sexually successful men, women, or people in general—is the fact that their advice is often contradictory; it seems as if every piece of dating advice we receive contradicts the last one. This is not a surprise and is typical of the people who criticize us, as they are illogical and incapable of providing consistent explanations to various intersexual dynamics, and because they refuse to acknowledge integral factors that dictate the chances of whether their advice bears fruit or not (those factors being physical attractiveness and "good" genetic material in general).

For instance, we are told cold approaching is good, and that we should be confident ("just shoot your shot bro!")—but the second you do it, you're creepy, weird, entitled, and "harassing" her for simply daring to speak in public. Then they pivot and say, "No no inkel, cold approach is outdated and creepy, instead, try warm approaching through mutual friends or other means." But apparently, that’s manipulative, because now you were just pretending to be friendly when really you were trying to get in her pants. In either case, they always have an excuse to fall back on—one that lets them pin the blame on the man and absolve women of any guilt for their vile, superficial, hypergamous behavior. They then offer further advice, which inevitably leads to failure, followed by contradictory advice—either from them or others—that keeps you running in circles.

Then there's the modern classic: "Just use dating apps!"

The same dating apps where inhumanly superficial women filter 95% of men out without a second thought—all due to immutable physical traits. But when you mention how brutal the stats are, suddenly the same people say, "Well dating apps aren't real life, don't take them seriously." — which is obviously incorrect, as dating apps are merely a reflection of female nature without any restraint, but I digress.

So which is it? Cold approach? Warm approach? Dating apps? Real life? This is water, but none of them work unless you’re Chad.

The reason the advice is contradictory is because they can’t admit the truth that looks are the primary factor. That it’s Chad’s innate physical characteristics that determine whether an approach is "confident and sexy" or "creepy and predatory." It’s his attractiveness that makes warm approaches seem "genuine and romantic" rather than "manipulative and perverted." Since they are incapable of admitting (or comprehending) this fundamental factor—their advice often becomes inherently contradictory. Also, in many cases it’s not even just about contradictory advice due to lack of cognizance of the factors at play; it’s that they maliciously want it to be contradictory. If the truth about female nature became widely accepted, the consequences would be detrimental to say the least. The confusion is intentional. It keeps men in the game, trying every method, thinking success is just around the corner if you "act right." It’s like dangling a carrot in front of a donkey to keep it moving. Meanwhile, for chad—all the aforementioned advice works perfectly well.

If Chad cold approaches, he’s charming.

If Chad warm approaches, he’s smooth.

If Chad uses dating apps, he gets matches with ease.

Hell, Chad gets approached himself by women.

But you? You get told to "just be yourself" while every single method you're told to try comes with a trapdoor underneath. And when it fails (because you have been deemed a subhuman by women), the blame gets pinned on you for “not trying hard enough,” “having a bad personality,” or whatever nonsense they typically spew.

The blackpill is the only consistent explanation. Every other explanation falls apart under its own contradictions.

To me, this demonstrates how weak their worldview and fundamental understanding of intersexual dynamics truly is; it is riddled with inconsistencies and weak explanations that attempt to justify the undesirable outcomes—ones that directly contradict their claims. They respond with further contradictions, all while failing to acknowledge one central factor that underlies the rest, which is measurable, consistent, and reliably predictive. Women respond to looks first and foremost, then retroactively assign positive personality traits after attraction is established. This is not due to better execution but due to the observer’s perception, which is heavily colored by the man’s physical traits. It's post-hoc rationalization for why they reward one guy and shame another.

The advice is not necessarily wrong; rather, it misses the key variable entirely, hence leading to endless contradictions and inconsistencies.
Very good thread imo
 
Yep good post, the sooner incels learn to never listen to normies "advice" the better.
fr, like if I could change my hairline or genetics
 

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