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Serious Suffering does not build character

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Suffering does not build character, hard work and real accomplishments/rewards build character.
Grvke, I’ve known neither
 
A person who is socially integrated and has had meaningful romantic relationships since adolescence will have so much more wisdom, experience, fulfillment, skills, happiness, and understanding of the world than someone who rots in loneliness on the Internet for their entire teen and young adult years.
Another trvke
I would say that suffering does build character IF you do not have access to easy cope in life as porn and so on.

Back in time people used to live so rought shit like seeing their family being killed in front of them but still managed to build something and sometimes even get famous in what they do.

Just see mike tyson life, it's one of the exemple, if mike tyson discovered high speed porn and internet he wouldn't have been a fighter i think.
Grvke as well
 
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I suffered more than 15 years of chronic diarrhea. It ruined my life in countless ways, BUTt!! It made my sphincter stronger! Yay!
 
This, the suffering I went through regarding my oneitis has turned me into a bad person. Before, I only wanted the best for her, now I want to see her suffer and have all sorts of fucked up fantasies.

It absolutely destroys your character and turns you evil.
 
suffering made me more hateful
 
It depends on how you define character and suffering, but I generally agree.
 
Yeah it traumatizes you, breaks you down slowly till you have lost all ability to function and mere survival from day to day becomes an anxiety/panic inducing affair. Suffering disintegrates the mind and body over time.
Finally you spoke something i can agree with

Suffering makes a broken shell and like wereq said it never happens immedietally it always slowly poison you, slowly you will realize that it breaks you, takes away all your will to live until you will reach breaking point, you lose all morals...not that anybody have any morals at all.
 
Finally you spoke something i can agree with

Suffering makes a broken shell and like wereq said it never happens immedietally it always slowly poison you, slowly you will realize that it breaks you, takes away all your will to live until you will reach breaking point, you lose all morals...not that anybody have any morals at all.
Yeah man 100%. Its very tough out there. Suffering destroys especially if its not overcome and no meaning is found in it. Its like slowly living through death from a thousand small cuts.
 
It increases pain tolerance
 
In a similar fashion to many of society's other copes, like "inner beauty matters more". Suffering to build character is just another myth. In fact, I'd say that it destroys it. You can be the most extroverted person, the life of the party, but have the most devastating injuries that lead to paralysis happen to you, and fall into a deep depression for the rest of your life. But that's an extreme example. I've suffered from mental health issues my entire life, I lost all my teenage years to it, and I'm as depressed as a man on his deathbed at this point. I used to be a happy child, loads of joy, and lots of willingness to go and play with my friends. Now I'm a shell, I have no friends at all, I'm extremely lonely, I have no meaning or purpose in my life, I'm an incel, and an addict. I've progressively lost all the characteristics that could've made me a pleasure to be around if I weren't ugly. Chad never had any suffering in his life; he never had to suffer. And people flock to worship him.
It’s not you, it’s literally the world
 
A person who is socially integrated and has had meaningful romantic relationships since adolescence will have so much more wisdom, experience, fulfillment, skills, happiness, and understanding of the world than someone who rots in loneliness on the Internet for their entire teen and young adult years.
I suffered brutality irl for being short short short SND short

Which means I’m godly godly godly and godly
 
The death of God and the disenchantment of life have killed any chance of true meaning to exist. The death of God is talked about quite often, but the disenchantment runs even deeper. Human beings are by nature spiritual apes, not atheists like new atheists like to claim. I also got very mad hearing "in nature, human beings are atheists". My question then is, why would religion even spawn to begin with? The reality is that by default, human beings are rather spiritual. Tribes in nature engage with animism, ancestor worship, and panpsychism. Those are essentially the default mode for the majority of humans. My point here is that in the modern, secular, and physicalist world, we just can't create meaning anymore. I agree that I would break an arm and leg if I knew my actions meant something. Unfortunately, in modernity, it's not an option.
Humans are walking meatbags begging to be eaten by me not this paragraph slop

No organic worshipping :feelsbaton::feelsbaton::feelsbaton::feelsbaton::feelsbaton::feelsbaton:
 
In a similar fashion to many of society's other copes, like "inner beauty matters more". Suffering to build character is just another myth. In fact, I'd say that it destroys it. You can be the most extroverted person, the life of the party, but have the most devastating injuries that lead to paralysis happen to you, and fall into a deep depression for the rest of your life. But that's an extreme example. I've suffered from mental health issues my entire life, I lost all my teenage years to it, and I'm as depressed as a man on his deathbed at this point. I used to be a happy child, loads of joy, and lots of willingness to go and play with my friends. Now I'm a shell, I have no friends at all, I'm extremely lonely, I have no meaning or purpose in my life, I'm an incel, and an addict. I've progressively lost all the characteristics that could've made me a pleasure to be around if I weren't ugly. Chad never had any suffering in his life; he never had to suffer. And people flock to worship him.
Chad is born with said character
 
suffering builds trauma
 
In a similar fashion to many of society's other copes, like "inner beauty matters more". Suffering to build character is just another myth. In fact, I'd say that it destroys it. You can be the most extroverted person, the life of the party, but have the most devastating injuries that lead to paralysis happen to you, and fall into a deep depression for the rest of your life. But that's an extreme example. I've suffered from mental health issues my entire life, I lost all my teenage years to it, and I'm as depressed as a man on his deathbed at this point. I used to be a happy child, loads of joy, and lots of willingness to go and play with my friends. Now I'm a shell, I have no friends at all, I'm extremely lonely, I have no meaning or purpose in my life, I'm an incel, and an addict. I've progressively lost all the characteristics that could've made me a pleasure to be around if I weren't ugly. Chad never had any suffering in his life; he never had to suffer. And people flock to worship him.
It does (build character) actually.

Except it doesn’t matter since character alone (much less at all) won’t make you attractive to women.

Sigh.
 
All I've ever done was suffer and all I could ever do is move forward.
 
It just makes a person bitter and resentful.
 
Character is really not what people look at anyways. The result of a materialistic culture.
 
Humans have always been this shallow
I choose to believe otherwise; only degeneracy brings with it such superficiality. Animals with lower intelligence propagating these ideas of materialism (women, Jews, homosexuals) shouldn't be put as the standard neither as the culmination of humanity.
 
I choose to believe otherwise; only degeneracy brings with it such superficiality. Animals with lower intelligence propagating these ideas of materialism (women, Jews, homosexuals) shouldn't be put as the standard neither as the culmination of humanity.
Modernity is a mirror; it exacerbates everything that was always there. Hypergamy, materialism, and degeneracy were always there; they were kept in check by patriarchy, religion, and suffering. Now that those things are gone, everything is out in the open to dry.
 
Modernity is a mirror; it exacerbates everything that was always there. Hypergamy, materialism, and degeneracy were always there; they were kept in check by patriarchy, religion, and suffering. Now that those things are gone, everything is out in the open to dry.
This is true, but we must not consider this nakedness to be the true nature of man now that it is lying exposed. For it is much more like a parasite or obesity. if not kept in check it may become a disease. This does not mean that the normal state of humanity is this animalistic backwardness, as also having the genes or propensity to physical diseases does not mean you have them.

Back in time at least it was acceptable to punch whores into the ground to stop their dimwitted ideas to extend to the world, shame that's gone.
 
This is true, but we must not consider this nakedness to be the true nature of man now that it is lying exposed. For it is much more like a parasite or obesity. if not kept in check it may become a disease. This does not mean that the normal state of humanity is this animalistic backwardness, as also having the genes or propensity to physical diseases does not mean you have them.

Back in time at least it was acceptable to punch whores into the ground to stop their dimwitted ideas to extend to the world, shame that's gone.
I've put thought into this. What do people mean by progress and a "better world". That would be a world with less suffering and more pleasure. Society as a construct exists to serve that end, to reduce suffering and produce as much pleasure as possible. It was never about meaning or something higher. In nature, there exists a high amount of suffering, and the closeness to death inspires spirituality and religion. In society, however, the better living conditions get, the more degenerate people get. No one cares about the divine or anything purpose-oriented; they care about their pitiful egos and self-pleasure. I look inside myself, down to the pit of my being, and all I see is just a desire to reproduce; I'm nothing more than a gene propagation machine. Human consciousness is so unbecoming of a being like us. We're too smart for what we are. The consciousness of a God in a mere mortal organism that has no noble tendencies.
 
I've put thought into this. What do people mean by progress and a "better world". That would be a world with less suffering and more pleasure. Society as a construct exists to serve that end, to reduce suffering and produce as much pleasure as possible. It was never about meaning or something higher. In nature, there exists a high amount of suffering, and the closeness to death inspires spirituality and religion. In society, however, the better living conditions get, the more degenerate people get. No one cares about the divine or anything purpose-oriented; they care about their pitiful egos and self-pleasure. I look inside myself, down to the pit of my being, and all I see is just a desire to reproduce; I'm nothing more than a gene propagation machine. Human consciousness is so unbecoming of a being like us. We're too smart for what we are. The consciousness of a God in a mere mortal organism that has no noble tendencies.
I understand what you mean. I have felt the opposite mostly; even though outwardly I am but a stain in this world, I look inside myself and find something else. A beauty that this world seems to try to stamp out of me, and maybe of us. Maybe these materialistic lies they told you were wrong. Maybe what they call Illnesses are but the expression of something better, something not animalistic.

Consoles me at least to know that inwardly I am not at all like whores and sluts, nor like animalistic successful men. There's no feminity and womanly evil nature.
 
I got ocd from years of being treated like shit for being ugly its turma my ocd is turma normies
 
In a similar fashion to many of society's other copes, like "inner beauty matters more". Suffering to build character is just another myth. In fact, I'd say that it destroys it. You can be the most extroverted person, the life of the party, but have the most devastating injuries that lead to paralysis happen to you, and fall into a deep depression for the rest of your life. But that's an extreme example. I've suffered from mental health issues my entire life, I lost all my teenage years to it, and I'm as depressed as a man on his deathbed at this point. I used to be a happy child, loads of joy, and lots of willingness to go and play with my friends. Now I'm a shell, I have no friends at all, I'm extremely lonely, I have no meaning or purpose in my life, I'm an incel, and an addict. I've progressively lost all the characteristics that could've made me a pleasure to be around if I weren't ugly. Chad never had any suffering in his life; he never had to suffer. And people flock to worship him.
Yes
 
Yeah it traumatizes you, breaks you down slowly till you have lost all ability to function and mere survival from day to day becomes an anxiety/panic inducing affair. Suffering disintegrates the mind and body over time.
 

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