News "South Koreans blame feminism for demographic collapse"

[Atavistic Autist]

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/1avz5rm/south_koreans_blame_feminism_for_demographic/

>country is literally dying out
<"WOW IM SURPRISED HOW STRONGLY PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THIS"
<"WHY DONT EVERYONE JUST UNITE INSTEAD OF BE DIVIDED (FEMINISM TOTALLY ISN'T DIVISIVE BTW )"
<"THIS IS JUST LIKE GAYMERGAY"

 

[Pancakecel]

South Korean guys are awake, good. Keep seething soydditors and leftists

 

[Regenerator]

Feminism is too blame for low birthrates in countries. Why is this so hard to understand?

 

[Puppeter]

Future west but whites will actually start killing foids en masse unlike cucked gooks

 

[Cryotron]

Incels have seized power in South Korea

 

[Fatass3000]

Feminism is too blame for low birthrates in countries. Why is this so hard to understand?

no its the shit economy

 

[der_komische]

cause they see what is happening in the west and they want to avoid it at all costs. Same as with japanese stance on immigration. The americunt brainwashing in germany has seen a far stronger effect than in jewpan or jewrea

 

[ItsovERfucks]

I blame feminism for destruction of everything.

 

[prajeet88]

South Korean guys are awake, good. Keep seething soydditors and leftists

That last Reddit post is just randomly AI generated tripe

 

[Friezacel]

I blame the Kikes since they are the ones who made the situation we have now possible

 

[anandkonda]

I blame the Kikes since they are the ones who made the situation we have now possible

Kikes are to be blamed for all things bad in modern society.

 

[TrueGlassesCel]

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>country is literally dying out
<"WOW IM SURPRISED HOW STRONGLY PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THIS"
<"WHY DONT EVERYONE JUST UNITE INSTEAD OF BE DIVIDED (FEMINISM TOTALLY ISN'T DIVISIVE BTW )"
<"THIS IS JUST LIKE GAYMERGAY"

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its always the same and nothing will change.

 

[Ron.Belgrade]

I blame the Kikes since they are the ones who made the situation we have now possible

Kikes are to be blamed for all things bad in modern society.

 

[Atavistic Autist]

I love the conceit on the part of pseudo-leftist social movements, like feminism, about being a force for "unity" rather than "division." When the very nature of a social movement that causes historical disruptions to a nation's culture and economy is bound to tear apart the very fabric that keeps it together.

In the case of feminism, it demonstrably decreases fertility rates and tears apart families as women are encouraged to establish/pursue their own individual socio-economic status instead of being tethered to that of their families'. This exact same process that is happening in South Korea is also seen in Japan and every other developed/developing country from Germany to Iran, so it is not a mystery what is causing low birth rates!

Genuine leftists like Vladimir Lenin, whom I've studied, would NEVER call themselves a general force for unity. Just the opposite: they'd proudly declare themselves as being divisive, which is inherent to being a revolutionary, after all. They are only "collectivist" insofar as the group they're sponsoring is concerned: in the case of a socialist, the proletariat.

Indeed, it is absurd to see feminists constantly posit that they not only support the best interests of women, but men too. This would be tantamount to a communist saying that they not only support what's best for the working class, but the bourgeoisie as well

It's odd to see in South Korea in particular a culture that is still ostensibly conservative and family-oriented getting the carpet pulled right out from under it through feminism -- coming with it a lack of fertility to even sustain families in the first place!

 

[Atavistic Autist]

no its the shit economy

Imagine if women were not permitted to work for cultural reasons, and thus the value of labor increased proportionally for each man. They would have wives at home whose sole social role would be childbirth and childcare (and otherwise keeping the flame of the culture/nation going). The fertility rate would naturally increase, wouldn't it?

While it is true that culture is downstream of economics, it's important to examine what the purpose of the economy even is. If your country is literally dying out as its population, both male and female, literally works itself to death, then what is the point of it? JFL

Obviously this situation is only advantaging corporations and other parasites who are sucking the nation dry before it dies. "Jews" are a common metaphor for this sort of parasitism in the West, but given that Jews have no real presence in South Korea (and definitely don't have power in Iran, which is also experiencing plummeting birth rates along with women dominating academia!), we can see that this is a systemic issue.

 

[5ft4ropeconnoisseur]

no its the shit economy

The shit economy doesn't stop dirt poor Niggers in Africa from shitting out 10 kids

 

[Dregster]

Feminism is too blame for low birthrates in countries. Why is this so hard to understand?

Because then toilets as a whole and the soyboy simps defending them would have to concede their worldview and accept the fact that they were wrong.

The problem: the disingenuous side will never admit that they're wrong.

 

[Regenerator]

Because then toilets as a whole and the soyboy simps defending them would have to concede their worldview and accept the fact that they were wrong.

The problem: the disingenuous side will never admit that they're wrong.

 

[Fatass3000]

Imagine if women were not permitted to work for cultural reasons, and thus the value of labor increased proportionally for each man. They would have wives at home whose sole social role would be childbirth and childcare (and otherwise keeping the flame of the culture/nation going). The fertility rate would naturally increase, wouldn't it?

why would the value of man's labor increase? It would only increase in jobs that were female dominated to attract more people to them and once they have sufficient workers there again then the pay would decrease. The value of labor would not increase in jobs that are mostly made up of man.

While it is true that culture is downstream of economics, it's important to examine what the purpose of the economy even is. If your country is literally dying out as its population, both male and female, literally works itself to death, then what is the point of it? JFL

the elites don't care about that, they only care about making their pockets bigger. Why would they care that the countries population is dying? by the time it starts affecting the economy they will be dead.

Do you believe you would had gotten a wife if woman weren't allowed to work?

 

[Fatass3000]

The shit economy doesn't stop dirt poor Niggers in Africa from shitting out 10 kids

that's because they're dumb as shit and don't care if they starve to death

 

[Stupid Clown]

 

[Atavistic Autist]

The shit economy doesn't stop dirt poor Niggers in Africa from shitting out 10 kids

Culture is a byproduct of the economy, but the economy itself is a social construct

There aren't many children being born because the economy does not permit it, but this economy was intentionally set up in such a way that made this happen.

The culprit is clearly industrialism, which among other things renders the distinction between males and females redundant insofar as gender roles are concerned. A washing machine and dishwasher can accomplish a woman's erstwhile gender role of cleaning the house, just as automation can increasingly accomplish a man's gender role of hard labor.

And given that industrial society is here to stay, there can only be an industrial solution to this industrial problem: fertility factories where embryos are cultivated like in Brave New World. But imagine the obvious implications that this will have on the power of those who controls these factories (whether states or corporations)!

This problem is like a mirror image of the Malthusian concern about mass-famine in the early industrial era, which predated the technological solution (pesticides) to the technological problem of apparently unsustainably high birth rates.

The elites have little concern about this stuff (besides some murmuring from Elon Musk, who likes to think aloud), because they have faith in the capacity of technology to resolve all of its own problems, while also expanding their own power in the process!

But what if they're wrong and things go awry?

 

[glowIntheDark]

Culture is a byproduct of the economy, but the economy itself is a social construct

There aren't many children being born because the economy does not permit it, but this economy was intentionally set up in such a way that made this happen.

The culprit is clearly industrialism, which among other things renders the distinction between males and females redundant insofar as gender roles are concerned. A washing machine and dishwasher can accomplish a woman's erstwhile gender role of cleaning the house, just as automation can increasingly accomplish a man's gender role of hard labor.

And given that industrial society is here to stay, there can only be an industrial solution to this industrial problem: fertility factories where embryos are cultivated like in Brave New World. But imagine the obvious implications that this will have on the power of those who controls these factories (whether states or corporations)!

This problem is like a mirror image of the Malthusian concern about mass-famine in the early industrial era, which predated the technological solution (pesticides) to the technological problem of apparently unsustainably high birth rates.

The elites have little concern about this stuff (besides some murmuring from Elon Musk), because they have faith in the capacity of technology to resolve all of its own problems, while also expanding their own power in the process!

But what if they're wrong and things go awry?

most high iq take on this forum

 

[Atavistic Autist]

why would the value of man's labor increase? It would only increase in jobs that were female dominated to attract more people to them and once they have sufficient workers there again then the pay would decrease. The value of labor would not increase in jobs that are mostly made up of man.

The value of labor increases if there's less labor to go around. Hence after the Black Plague in Europe, workers were being paid a whole lot more than before. This rustled the ruling class so much that it explains the etymological origins of the term "villain," originally a term just describing peasants on a French villa, but who were now shed in a negative light due to how much ruling class money was trickling down to them

You're right that the ruling class would quickly endeavor to undo this, though, which is exactly what happened after the Black Plague. But in balance, it was a positive phenomenon, and certain historians speculate that the Black Plague and its economic consequences are the reason why Europe ended up dominating the world

As for male vs. female jobs, keep in mind that 80% of jobs are now in the service industry, where men and women are completely interchangeable.

the elites don't care about that, they only care about making their pockets bigger. Why would they care that the countries population is dying? by the time it starts affecting the economy they will be dead.

I used to think that they were selfish in this sense, and were going to die before the consequences arise so didn't care, but they obviously do pay mind to the longevity of the society they control, especially if they have any interest in passing down their wealth to their children.

This reminds me of a thread I once made: about how business CEOs still overwhelmingly have stay at home wives. Ergo the rulers of our society are the only ones still enjoying traditional family structures which serve to support them and their children, while the plebs get socio-familial disintegration and chaos which keeps them down

 

[Lv99_BixNood]

How are Koreans so based compared to other ricecucks? They just need to kick out the amerikikes and/or get conquered by NK and the era of the glorious ricecel Reich can begin @AsiaCel

 

[Fifita]

Korea is like Japan they are full of Incels in denial

 

[Uninvited]

Kikes are to blame for all things bad in modern society.

 

[Atavistic Autist]

How are Koreans so based compared to other ricecucks? They just need to kick out the amerikikes and/or get conquered by NK and the era of the glorious ricecel Reich can begin @AsiaCel

North Korea has the exact same problem of demographic collapse, along with Iran! And for the exact same reasons!

N.K.'s total fertility rate estimated at 1.38, far lower than U.N. estimate: BOK report | Yonhap News Agency

SEOUL, Dec. 29 (Yonhap) -- North Korea's total fertility rate is presumed to have bee...

en.yna.co.kr

SEOUL, Dec. 29 (Yonhap) -- North Korea's total fertility rate is presumed to have been far lower than a U.N. estimate amid a delay in marriages and women's increased economic activities

This goes to show, as I say above, that this issue is systemic and based on the problems inherent to industrial society. Whether a government is patriarchal or feminist, Jewish or anti-Jewish, does not particularly matter. Indeed, feminism is just a natural consequence of industrialism and its breakdown of gender roles, and Jews are merely emblematic of the type of parasites who prevail in a socially alienated and rootless environment as induced by global industrialism.

 

[Lv99_BixNood]

North Korea has the exact same problem of demographic collapse, along with Iran! And for the exact same reasons!

N.K.'s total fertility rate estimated at 1.38, far lower than U.N. estimate: BOK report | Yonhap News Agency

SEOUL, Dec. 29 (Yonhap) -- North Korea's total fertility rate is presumed to have bee...

en.yna.co.kr

Alarm bells ring louder as Iran teeters on edge of aging crisis

Life expectancy in Iran has risen but fertility rates have plummeted - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

This goes to show, as I say above, that this issue is systemic and based on the problems inherent to industrial society. Whether a government is patriarchal or feminist, Jewish or anti-Jewish, does not matter. Indeed, feminism is just a natural consequence of industrialism and its breakdown of gender roles, and Jews are merely emblematic of the type of parasites who prevail in a socially alienated and rootless society as induced by industrialism and thus globalism.

Yeah but it doesn't really matter if they close their borders like NK does.

 

[based_meme]

South Korean guys are awake, good. Keep seething soydditors and leftists

Gives me hope that their young men are seeing the bullshit for what it is.

 

[Atavistic Autist]

Yeah but it doesn't really matter if they close their borders like NK does.

Albania closed its borders during its communist era, just like modern North Korea, and worked towards autarky and self-sufficiency.

But these are very small countries that cannot exist in a vacuum, and so the only result of their "self-sufficiency" is poverty, misery, and an even worse industrial hellscape than anywhere else.

Autarky only makes sense in the context of an expansionist empire, like the Third Reich, which can aspire to conquer all the economic resources it needs to be prosperous. Which is now an anachronism due to nuclear weapons.

 

[LeDepravedCel]

It's not just feminism though. Yellow men are inherently low T and would rather slave away for their boss than procreate with a cute Asiatic gf.

 

[Balding Subhuman]

The irony of those reddit comments.

"Wow its so easy to brainwash people!!" and "Divide and conquer!!!!1!"

The lack of self-awareness. Just wow.

 

[Ernst22]

"let's unite but check your fucking privilege scrote"
hehe

 

[Void.]

South Korean guys are awake, good. Keep seething soydditors and leftists

Theyre awake because they have no choice but to face reality. They have the worst demographic collapse in the world. Theyre 5 years ahead of us

 

[Vlarke]

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>country is literally dying out
<"WOW IM SURPRISED HOW STRONGLY PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THIS"
<"WHY DONT EVERYONE JUST UNITE INSTEAD OF BE DIVIDED (FEMINISM TOTALLY ISN'T DIVISIVE BTW )"
<"THIS IS JUST LIKE GAYMERGAY"

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Soyddit moment

 

[Void.]

It's not just feminism though. Yellow men are inherently low T and would rather slave away for their boss than procreate with a cute Asiatic gf.

Then why were they doing just fine just a few decades ago?

 

[rope infinity ♾️]

It's has nothing to do with feminism but rather that Korea is a hyper capitalist society. Where everyone is trying to climb the corporate ladder.

 

[AutistCuredGoonPig]

South Korean guys are awake, good. Keep seething soydditors and leftists

Koreans are high IQ of course they are awake

 

[Atavistic Autist]

It's has nothing to do with feminism but rather that Korea is a hyper capitalist society. Where everyone is trying to climb the corporate ladder.

The problem is actually industrialism, the root of both capitalism and socialism.

As I mention above, North Korea has the same demographic problems as South Korea, and for the exact same reasons!

But to say that this has "nothing" to do with feminism is plainly incorrect. While any type of discussion about "le culture wars" which does not describe the economic context is superficial and retarded, feminism is clearly the rotten branch of the industrial tree which we are talking about here.

Feminism (i.e., women prioritizing work over childbirth) is definitely the driving force behind low birthrates, but when the economy is structured to make this happen, then you cannot really blame women for it. Feminism is just a symptom of the industrial system.

 

[Autistic Uggo]

Indeed, it is absurd to see feminists constantly posit that they not only support the best interests of women, but men too. This would be tantamount to a communist saying that they not only support what's best for the working class, but the bourgeoisie as well

Men may get more punitive prison sentences and have have a higher suicide rate, but that's because of the patriarchy.

 

[Atavistic Autist]

Men may get ore punitive prison sentences and have have a higher suicide rate, but that's because of the patriarchy.

Feminists legit say stuff like this: that "the patriarchy" makes men not just brutal towards women, but towards other men too (and themselves).

Which ignores the great and even decisive contribution that women make towards encouraging inter-male brutality/competition.

The male social hierarchy is basically predicated on who has the right to access female sexual resources, and women oblige by its logic.

Indeed, they don't just oblige by its logic, but through the auspices of feminism have effectively become a part of the male social hierarchy themselves by entering previously male-exclusive spaces like the workplace. This has made women just as nasty and narcissistic as men in order to compete with them at this point in history! Official statistics on Narcissistic Personality Disorder and gender bear this out

 

[LeDepravedCel]

NIGGERS

 

[AsiaCel]

How are Koreans so based compared to other ricecucks? They just need to kick out the amerikikes and/or get conquered by NK and the era of the glorious ricecel Reich can begin @AsiaCel

Something in the kimchi I guess

 

[Autistic Uggo]

Feminists legit say stuff like this: that "the patriarchy" makes men not just brutal towards women, but towards other men too (and themselves).

Which ignores the great and even decisive contribution that women make towards encouraging inter-male brutality/competition.

The male social hierarchy is basically predicated on who has the right to access female sexual resources, and women oblige by its logic.

Indeed, they don't just oblige by its logic, but through the auspices of feminism have become a part of the male social hierarchy themselves by entering previously male-exclusive spaces like the workplace. This has made women just as nasty and narcissistic as men in order to compete with them! Official statistics on Narcissistic Personality Disorder and gender bear this out

Exactly. Women enable brutal intrasexual competition in men. Bullying, crime and male disposability wouldn't exist if women didn't reward that kind of behavior. Feminists love victim blaming and gasighting low-status men.

 

[Lv99_BixNood]

Albania closed its borders during its communist era, just like modern North Korea, and worked towards autarky and self-sufficiency.

But these are very small countries that cannot exist in a vacuum, and so the only result of their "self-sufficiency" is poverty, misery, and an even worse industrial hellscape than anywhere else.

Autarky only makes sense in the context of an expansionist empire, like the Third Reich, which can aspire to conquer all the economic resources it needs to be prosperous. Which is now an anachronism due to nuclear weapons.

Well seeing how geostrategically important they are for China they can get all their resources from there. Their shit economy is due to international sanctions and China not really caring about them until the 2000s when the US escalated the conflict with the free tibet shit.

 

[Lv99_BixNood]

It's not just feminism though. Yellow men are inherently low T and would rather slave away for their boss than procreate with a cute Asiatic gf.

Yeah that's how China managed to breed 1.3 billion people

 

[failednormie_]

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>country is literally dying out
<"WOW IM SURPRISED HOW STRONGLY PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THIS"
<"WHY DONT EVERYONE JUST UNITE INSTEAD OF BE DIVIDED (FEMINISM TOTALLY ISN'T DIVISIVE BTW )"
<"THIS IS JUST LIKE GAYMERGAY"

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*Insert feminism
*country dies both men and women separate and miserable

*it wasn’t feminism that caused this


View: https://youtu.be/ZYSKdK3c4g0?si=Ghl5-autmK_-Y_FK

 

[Initium]

I blame feminism for destruction of everything.

 

[Atavistic Autist]

Well seeing how geostrategically important they are for China they can get all their resources from there. Their shit economy is due to international sanctions and China not really caring about them until the 2000s when the US escalated the conflict with the free tibet shit.

Many people don't know that North Korea was wealthier than South Korea until the mid 1970s. It inherited a strong industrial base, whereas South Korea was agrarian, poor, and just as dictatorial as the North.

The agrarianism of South Korea was much missed by the North after the end of the USSR, no doubt

But by that point South Korea had far exceeded the North in its industrial economy too.