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Sonic 1 and 2 are overrated

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Dr. Autismo

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Not bad games, but overrated and not aged too well.
Sonic 3 and knuckles is my favourite mega drive sonic game, it massively major mogs 1 and 2, no questions asked.

I'll start with sonic 1, shall I?

Ok first off, I'm not too keen on the zones having 3 acts each and there only being 6 levels in the game.
Green hill, marble, spring yard and starlight are good zones, but my favourites of the 4 are green hill and starlight.
Labyrinth and scrap brain can take a big ol slurp on my John Thomas.
In fact, scrap brains act 3 reuses Labyrinth zone, so it's like one zone is trying to top the other on how shit it is.
Both Labyrinth and scrap brain have too many traps and hazards, especially scrap brain, so beating the stage with 50 rings is highly difficult and a real pain in the ass.

Speaking of, getting the 6 chaos emeralds is pointless because you only unlock the true ending, and not anything like a new level or secret final boss.
The special stages can also be fucking annoying, but the mog the ones in sonic 2.

And about sonic 2, in many ways it mogs 1 but still fucks some things up.

The game has 12 zones with 2 acts, which is good, but no saving your progress.
RPGs that came out in the 80s on the nes can let you save your progress, even mega drive RPGs could too, but sonic 2, a game that came out in 1992 did not.

And speaking of the zones, I hate metropolis zone, not only because it goes on too long, but it has 3 acts!
So yay, one of the worse levels in the game has 3 acts.

And btw, my favourite zones from 2 are emerald hill, aquatic ruin, casino night, mystic cave and hill top.
I never cared too much for chemical plant or oil ocean, and I don't like metropolis, sky chase or wing fortress.
I'm not including the death egg, because that's not really a zone, there's no level to play through.

The special stages really twist my asshole and boil my piss.
You have to rely on memorization to know when the rings and bombs will come, and there's no indication to let you know.
And don't you dare play the special stages as sonic with tails, because while that lil nigger can collect rings you miss, he can easily lose them because his movement is slightly delayed.
For some reason, the sonic 2 special stages have become a template for special stages in future sonic games like 3D blast, heroes, rush and some others I can't think of rn.

Playing as tails is pointless because you can't fly as him for some reason, and that was his selling point too, he could fly.
The co-op in this game is a joke too, how the fuck is anyone going to play sonic 2 with 2 players when the player playing as sonic speeds off and constantly leaves you off screen?
It's not like the 2 player is split screen.

And for the record, I'm talking about playing the main game with 2 players, not the racing mode that I never gave a toss for.
Only thing I like about it is that the stages on it have different music.

Oh, and I don't like that to play as super sonic after getting all the emeralds, you have to just jump.
This is shit because you could turn super went you don't want to.
there's this one glitch where, after you unlock super sonic and beat a boss with over 50 rings, if you jump after releasing the animals, sonics super transformation would happen, but he gets stuck in the air, which soft locks the game.

So yeah, when I do play 2, I always play as sonic alone and activate the zone select cheat and enable super sonic.

Again, I don't think these 2 games are bad, but they've not aged well and sonic 3 and knuckles mog them both into oblivion.
 
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Damn you just nudged my memory, looking back it’s no wonder I never finished Sonic 2. I couldn’t save the goddamn game jfl

But yeah I remember Sonic 3 always being my favorite of the original 2d games; I remember Knuckles’ Chaotix being pretty fun too.
 
Don't know about 2 but sonic 1 is massively overrated and is not an enjoyable game at all. I hated it so much.
 
Damn you just nudged my memory, looking back it’s no wonder I never finished Sonic 2. I couldn’t save the goddamn game jfl
Meanwhile, in Zelda 1 and 2, final fantasy, dragon warrior/quest and other RPGs, you can.
On mega.drive rpgs like phantasy star 2, shining in the darkness, shining force 1 and 2 and other mega drive RPGs, you can.

Ironically, the Devs behind sonic 1 developed the first phantasy star for theaster system and fatal labyrinth for the mega drive, both had battery backup.

And as a final piss off, sonic 2s zone select is not an unlockable in the game, so you would have to buy a gaming magazine at the time to know it or look it up online now.
But yeah I remember Sonic 3 always being my favorite of the original 2d games; I remember Knuckles’ Chaotix being pretty fun too.
Never played chaotic, but I saw cybershells video on it a few years back, weird AF game tbh
 
Don't know about 2 but sonic 1 is massively overrated and is not an enjoyable game at all. I hated it so much.
Do you have your own reasons why or do they match the ones I listed?
 
Thoughts?

@Hoppipolla @Stupid Clown @Sonicfancel @SonicFanCel23 @Nakolas
 
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Do you have your own reasons why or do they match the ones I listed?
idk the level design just didn't click with me for some reason, in sonic 2 there were levels with good rhythm where you either just run as fast as you can or do platformer stuff. It felt more balanced and measured. Sonic 1 however would freak me out every now and then with its unsatisfying platforming. Maybe I just prefer fast paced, smooth sections to tedious platformer circlejerk.
 
Sonic 1 was kinda shit without the spin dash. I don't know if they brought it back in with new releases of the game
 
 
Sonic 1 was the only one I partially enjoyed because it was more focused on platforming. I never finished it. I grew too frustrated with whichever zone was filled with lava and spikes.
 
Sonic Mania is the greatest classic sonic game
 
Sonic 1 was the only one I partially enjoyed because it was more focused on platforming.
Some people hated that about sonic 1, I kinda do too.
I like marbel zone, it major mogs labyrinth and scrap brain, but I'm not to keen on pushing blocks around, or waiting for the pillars to slowly move out the way so you can get through.
I never finished it. I grew too frustrated with whichever zone was filled with lava and spikes.
And it wasn't even made by sega or sonic team, it was made by fans.
I'm pretty sure sega and sonic team are salty of this, because they don't license anymore fangames, even though theres quick, easy and big money made right there.

Same with master system, Saturn or dreamcast comps.
It would be pretty cool if sega released those compilations and not mega drive ones every console generation.
I love the mega drive and it's games, but the master system, Saturn and Dreamcast has some real lost gems.
 
Sonic Advance 2 is the one true sonic game.
 
Sonic Advance 2 is the one true sonic game.
Not played the advance games in years, so I won't know.

And sega, being the dirty, rotten, tight fisted Jews that they are, won't release a compilation of the advance games.
Companys like them have no right to complain about piracy and emulation when they refuse to give their fans what they want
 
Not played the advance games in years, so I won't know.

And sega, being the dirty, rotten, tight fisted Jews that they are, won't release a compilation of the advance games.
Companys like them have no right to complain about piracy and emulation when they refuse to give their fans what they want
Advance 2 is everything sonic was meant to be, 100% fast.
 
I mean, Sonic 3 is bound to be the best one in the series, they've pretty much perfected the gameplay mechanics at this point. But to go so far to call Sonic 1 and 2 overrated, nah. Sonic 1 and 2 are difficulty curves which was fun for me. But you're right super sonic in sonic 2 is BS, I can't tell you how many times it messed me up in the zone where you had to get on those platform things like megaman and if you fall off you die but when you're super sonic going 5x the speed its so much more difficult.
 
But you're right super sonic in sonic 2 is BS, I can't tell you how many times it messed me up in the zone where you had to get on those platform things like megaman and if you fall off you die but when you're super sonic going 5x the speed its so much more difficult.
Super sonic in 2 is fine, I hate the special zones that you have to play through it you want to unlock him.
And of courses fuck that glitch where you can soft lock the game and have to restart if you have over 50 rings after beating a boss and jump when your on the capsule screen.

I also prefer the super sonic theme in 2 rather the one in 3 and knuckles because of how repetitive it is.
 
Sonic 1 is bad because it’s the first game, they had no idea what they wanted to do with the chaos emeralds, so that’s why the ending sucks dick. Only have 6 stages with 3 zones is a nice edition, you get to see more of the area. Imagine going to 6 good spots for a vacation and staying for a week compared to going to well over 20 locations but only staying there for a few hours at most.
Sonic 2’s special stages are fine, the fact you have to memorize them, and have the threat of losing the opportunity, adds nice tension to the game, sure it can be annoying, but sometimes difficulty like that is fun, it’s not like it’s impossible. I have to agree though, tails sucks.
 
I saw something fascinating about Sonic 1. The idea of the game is not actually that it's fast, but to encourage beating your previous overall time beating the game. Think Speedrunning but casual.
 

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