Signs you are ugly, every female you deal with hates your guts. This goes beyond dating interest.

[MrIncelSaySo2000]

I am talking about your female relatives, university classmates, female co-workers, friends wives. If they have all had problems with you for one reason or another you're most likely in the sub 5 death zone. There is nothing you can do since personality doesn't affect much in terms of interactions.

 

[Cuyen]

if youre rejected by a foid then you are ugly.

 

[Sgtpinkie]

Women don't like me, but they don't hate me either. They tolerate me and put up with me. They show micro-expressions of unwillingness to deal with me. They treat me without any emotions, just cold business talk. There is no warmth, no curiosity from them. That's what I notice.

So much this, On rare occasions I get full on hate for no reason at all. Apart from that they just kind of tolerate me whenever im around them.

 

[IHateMySelf]

A simple solution: do not talk to femoids

 

[GeneticDysfunction]

Because they want us and our ugly faces to die off or be sex starved cuck slaves

 

[incel scum]

this is brutal and true
all foids hate me even my mother does
this must mean i am sub-2

 

[OmniVoid]

I've always been more baby faced so either I was ignored or was treated like a puppy. I've been hated before though. I used to be called weird for doing absolutely nothing.

 

[this is hell]

I've always been more baby faced so either I was ignored or was treated like a puppy. I've been hated before though. I used to be called weird for doing absolutely nothing.

I have a baby face too. Women treat me as a non sexual object, they come up to and start talking to me then talk about "muh boyfraaanddd"

 

[OmniVoid]

I have a baby face too. Women treat me as a non sexual object, they come up to and start talking to me then talk about "muh boyfraaanddd"

I think it's somewhat better than being ogrefaced and grotesque

 

[Sans]

I agree. Whenever in school I get a partner/group project and am “lucky” enough to get assigned with a female, they always end up trying to talk to me as little as possible.

 

[OmniVoid]

I agree. Whenever in school I get a partner/group project and am “lucky” enough to get assigned with a female, they always end up trying to talk to me as little as possible.

Are you ogrefaced?

 

[Deleted member 677]

if you're rejected by a foid then you are ugly.

 

[UselesseatER]

A simple solution: do not talk to femoids

 

[Grotesque]

Women don't like me, but they don't hate me either. They tolerate me and put up with me. They show micro-expressions of unwillingness to deal with me. They treat me without any emotions, just cold business talk. There is no warmth, no curiosity from them. That's what I notice.

This used to be how I was treated.

Now, females fear me... It's much more rewarding.

 

[Deleted member 5333]

they avoid me like a plague and sometimes cover parts of their body so I can't see that boobs, when they are dressed like they are getting promotion on a job.
Not that I want to stare at their boobs like some freak, but I noticed that recently. This is subtle rejection, or preventive rejection

 

[ChronicPaincel]

On rare occasions I get full on hate for no reason at all. Apart from that they just kind of tolerate me whenever im around them.

 

[Ignas]

Women treat me as a non sexual object

this tbh

 

[Sans]

Are you ogrefaced?

Kind of.

 

[OmniVoid]

Kind of.

It's over. At least they treat me like a child. Wish I could exploit it and get some titty sucking.

 

[Sans]

It's over. At least they treat me like a child. Wish I could exploit it and get some titty sucking.

I’m an ogre in terms of height and face. I wish the Height copers would believe me when I say height doesn’t mean shit if you have a bad face.

 

[Deleted member 16455]

They are always very hostile around me. Its like they are uncomfortable around me. Thats how I know its over. I feel like some of them even gave me disgusted faces

 

[Michael15651]

If they don’t approach you, you know no girl will ever be attracted to you.

 

[Mainländer]

if youre rejected by a foid then you are ugly.

That's not true. My Chadlite friend (who @RageAgainstTDL considers a Chad, even) is rejected all the time. When he approaches his rejection rate is something like 60% minimum.

 

[Of Manlets and Men]

I've gotten this bad attitude from women ever since I hit puberty. The groans and looks of disappointment when they were assigned to do a group project with me, the covering up of cleavage or midriffs when I walk by, etc. Literally just last week this blonde air hostess spent a couple of minutes making friendly talk with the man seated in front of me, but when she got to me, she became like a robot and when I tried to make conversation with her, she gave one-word answers to all my questions.

Why do foids always have to judge every man by his dating potential, even in situations that have nothing to do with dating? Men don't act that way towards women. This is one of the single biggest reasons why I refer to women as foids.

 

[Cuyen]

A simple solution: do not talk to femoids

 

[yukreic]

Literally just last week this blonde air hostess spent a couple of minutes making friendly talk with the man seated in front of me, but when she got to me, she became like a robot and when I tried to make conversation with her, she gave one-word answers to all my questions.

Reminds me of my expriences with air hostesses. As they are basically waitresses on airplanes, they are typically not well educated and low IQ and therefore more primitive, and more easily show their true nature compared to average.

Once I was getting off plane and air hostess was standing at the exit of the plane and say farewell to every passenger, but... you guessed it, not me. She was silent when I passed by.

 

[tooth monster]

I've gotten this bad attitude from women ever since I hit puberty. The groans and looks of disappointment when they were assigned to do a group project with me, the covering up of cleavage or midriffs when I walk by, etc. Literally just last week this blonde air hostess spent a couple of minutes making friendly talk with the man seated in front of me, but when she got to me, she became like a robot and when I tried to make conversation with her, she gave one-word answers to all my questions.

Why do foids always have to judge every man by his dating potential, even in situations that have nothing to do with dating? Men don't act that way towards women. This is one of the single biggest reasons why I refer to women as foids.

Because they are shallow NPCs.

 

[Of Manlets and Men]

Reminds me of my expriences with air hostesses. As they are basically waitresses on airplanes, they are typically not well educated and low IQ and therefore more primitive, and more easily show their true nature compared to average.

Once I was getting off plane and air hostess was standing at the exit of the plane and say farewell to every passenger, but... you guessed it, not me. She was silent when I passed by.

One time I paid to upgrade to first class and the brunette Stacy air hostess took everyone's drink orders. The other first class passengers were a couple of chadlites, a couple of normie guys, and some foids. The flight attendant brought out all the drinks on a tray, but she forgot one. Guess who?

After she'd passed out all the drinks, I said, "Aren't you forgetting something?" (I said this in a friendly tone of voice, hoping she would get a smile and laugh out of it and then apologize). She had a blank look on her face for a second, then said, "Oh, yeah." Now this is the part where I was reminded of my truecel status. As she realized that she'd forgotten my drink, she started reaching out as if to touch me, but suddenly yanked her hand away.

It's obvious what happened. It's common for women to reach out and touch people in situations like that, and she began reacting purely on instinct, but when she realized this is a physically unattractive guy, she jerked her hand away so she wouldn't make physical contact with the non-Chad otherkin. This is how I've been treated by women ever since puberty, as an otherkin.

Being loved, validated, and accepted is what truly matters in life, not material things. I'm sure any IncelTears lurkers will accuse me of being "privileged" because hurr durr he can pay for first class (it was a short flight and it was like a $300 upcharge, so that's real Bill Gates money right there), but those pea-brained losers are missing the point, like they always do. Being as shallow and materialistic as they are, material things might be the most important thing in the world to them, but it's not like that for me. I would happily accept traveling in the cargo hold every time I had to fly if I could get love, validation, and acceptance from women in exchange.

Oh, and the air hostess never apologized for forgetting my drink.

 

[Jog Mansen]

A simple solution: do not talk to femoids

problem is they are fucking everywhere! try to get promotion? no foids dont like you, try to get driving license? sorry Susan thinks you should fuck off and die, wrongfully convicted of crime? sorry foid judge hates yoiu

 

[HueHueBr]

they look back every time I approach.

 

[StaroRavager]

On rare occasions I get full on hate for no reason at all. Apart from that they just kind of tolerate me whenever im around them.

 

[Dropbox]

I have a baby face too. Women treat me as a non sexual object, they come up to and start talking to me then talk about "muh boyfraaanddd"

Finally someone else experiences this.

Whenever I'm out, on the rare occasion a woman does approach me and start a conversation the words "my boyfriend" are always some of the first out of her mouth.

This has happened multiple times.

 

[Deleted member 14382]

Why do foids always have to judge every man by his dating potential, even in situations that have nothing to do with dating? Men don't act that way towards women. This is one of the single biggest reasons why I refer to women as foids.

Because they're biological robots programed to cull only the best genes. Males that don't contribute to that objective are considered threats and are summarily avoided at all costs. Men don't avoid ugly foids because we're physically stronger, so they aren't a threat to us.

 

[this is hell]

Finally someone else experiences this.

Whenever I'm out, on the rare occasion a woman does approach me and start a conversation the words "my boyfriend" are always some of the first out of her mouth.

This has happened multiple times.

oh yeah man. It's pure ER fuel.

 

[FrameCell]

Because they're biological robots programed to cull only the best genes. Males that don't contribute to that objective are considered threats and are summarily avoided at all costs. Men don't avoid ugly foids because we're physically stronger, so they aren't a threat to us.

Well said