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Can you tell me what you think about my communication with a dating coach and what you think about his words?

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Hello,
I communicate on Discord with a person—let’s call him a dating coach, although he doesn’t call himself that. I haven’t given him any money or anything for free—we simply communicate. He says that women want good emotions and that I know how to communicate. He has given me an example of a short man who has a girlfriend and is 1.45 m tall, while I am 1.60 m. He also said that we could go out to a bar for free and that he could introduce me to people with the same problems as mine, as well as let me communicate with women who are his friends so they can give feedback on my communication.
Here are some other things he says about incels, blackpill, and similar topics:
The men who made those images are just as unsuccessful with women as you are, and they talk this nonsense to make themselves feel better, to avoid blaming themselves for their own laziness, and to avoid taking responsibility to work on themselves.
You keep saying the same things over and over again, and once again I’m telling you that you need to stop blindly believing online nonsense, because you are becoming a victim of it.
It’s not a coincidence that there is a saying: “Don’t listen to people who don’t have the success you want to have.”
All of these stupid theories written above have nothing to do with reality and are complete lies.
My real experience—not only from my own life, but also from communicating in person with several thousand women and several thousand men—has shown me that reality is different.
Only a small percentage of women put physical appearance in first place. As the girl told you as well—first comes communication, second your qualities, third your social status, fourth your body, and only in fifth place your looks and height.
I’ve already told you several times that you shouldn’t blindly believe everything written on the internet.
These things are written by people who have no practical experience and are trying to justify their lack of results.
They have nothing to do with practical reality and rely on the fact that you don’t have the experience to recognize that they are lies.
You are turning into a naive sheep by believing them blindly.
For women, it’s important to feel understood, and if that’s missing, good looks won’t save you.
Women want a charismatic man, and that has nothing to do with physical appearance.
Looks cannot create trust.
Beauty does not compensate for a lack of emotional intelligence.
Good communication has no visual measurements.
A boring person remains boring, no matter how they look. Being boring to a woman is the biggest sin.
Pleasant communication requires attention. If you don’t know how to give proper attention to a woman, she will leave, regardless of your looks.
Women respond to a sense of safety, not to height.
Looks cannot listen. Active listening is a very important skill when communicating with women.
Connection happens on an emotional level, not a visual one. If she doesn’t feel connected to you, your appearance won’t help you.
People seek authenticity, not aesthetics. If she senses that you are fake, she will leave.
The good feeling after a conversation has nothing to do with appearance. If during the conversation you made her feel terrible, that’s what she will remember.
Looks can attract attention, but they don’t keep interest. You need to build yourself into an interesting man.
Confidence does not depend on kilograms or centimeters. Women look for confident men.
Social skills are not visible in the mirror. Communication with people is built. If you’re a silent handsome guy who doesn’t talk to anyone, you’ll still be ignored.
Pleasant company is a function of your inner state. Being good-looking doesn’t make you pleasant to be around.
No one leaves a conversation thinking, “Good thing he was handsome,” but rather, “Good thing I felt good.”
The way you react is more important than how you look. If you react poorly, you’ll make people feel awful in your presence.
Lack of social ease is felt immediately, regardless of appearance. If you’re awkward and cringey, no one will want to communicate with you.
Well, it’s a complex you have to overcome.
You keep drilling the idea into your head that being short is a big problem. That makes you feel bad. That, in turn, leads to negative thoughts, which make you withdraw.
When you withdraw, even if you have opportunities in front of you, you won’t take advantage of them. When you don’t act, you won’t get results. When you don’t get results, your brain starts looking for a reason and closes the loop by blaming your height.
Women don’t ignore you because of your height. You self-sabotage with women because you make your height a problem.
I have never seen a man who has many friends and no success with women.
And certainly, men who are not successful with women either have no male friends at all, or the few male friends they have are just as much losers as they are.
You have no evidence, because you stay at home, have no experience, make no effort to gain your own experience, and listen to the opinions of strangers on the internet.
The problem with lack of experience is that when you hear someone else’s belief, you don’t have personal experience to compare it against.
That’s why when you hear a negative opinion online that resonates with your fears and negative thoughts, you immediately take it at face value.
When you don’t have your own experience, you can’t resist the belief and you accept it as truth.
You don’t even try to analyze beliefs critically.
You haven’t thought about whether these online opinions are objective or subjective.
Dating is the same. You’ve buried yourself in negative opinions from losers who have no real life experience and spread lies just to feel better about their lack of results.
That’s why I told you I’ve never seen a single man who followed the action plan I gave you above and then had no results.
But I have seen thousands of men who don’t put in effort, or put in very mediocre, minimal effort, get no results, and then invent excuses about how hard and unfair it is.
Why do you accept other people’s opinions as objective truth? Just because some girls say they don’t want short men, does that mean it applies to all women? You’ve repeatedly encountered women who told you they have or have had men shorter than them.
The real question isn’t whether women want a tall man. Yes, there are women like that—but there are also women who don’t care at all. The question is how to find the women who don’t care about height.
There are women who will never like a man without a beard. Since I can’t grow a beard, I have no chance with those women, no matter how charismatic I am. My goal is to have attractive charisma for women who don’t care that I don’t have a beard.
There are women who want men who are 180 cm tall, and I don’t qualify. My goal is to find the ones who don’t care that I’m under 180.
There are women who want millionaires and would never date me. My goal is to find and be charismatic for women who don’t care that I’m not a millionaire.
There are women who only like muscular men. My goal is to communicate with women who don’t care what kind of body I have.
For every female criterion you hear online, in real life you will find women who don’t care about that criterion, as well as women who would make an exception.
I’ll give you an example with my ex-girlfriend. Before me, all of her boyfriends were bodybuilding competitors or MMA fighters. I’m the first man in her life who has absolutely no built physique.
Why did she make an exception for me, despite the belly and lack of muscles? Because she changed as a person, developed, and no longer places that kind of importance on muscles. She had been too disappointed by that type of men and started valuing values and intellect more than physical appearance.
Така че трябва да спрете да се фокусирате върху това, което жените казват онлайн, защото винаги ще има жени с коренно различни критерии.

Basically he says I don't know how to communicate with women and I don't communicate with them in general and he says to stop reading about incels, blackpill and generally about studies and the like. He says to work out, talk to women live to give pleasant emotions and such. He also sent these pictures.


Second, the AI analyst told you the same.
Third, you are still young and the male face matures in attractiveness until your 30th year.
Fourth, the amount of body fat plays a big role in how attractive your face is. When you have about 15% subcutaneous fat, your face is smoothed out and you become even more attractive.
Fifth, it is full of ugly men who date beautiful women, because women care more about how you make them feel. Even if you are super handsome, if you have a negative mindset, grumbling, without self-confidence, you are constantly afraid, this automatically makes you unattractive to women.
No matter how much you read on the internet, practice shows that your actions and your mindset are the most determining thing whether you will be successful with women.
I proved it to myself.
Mitko proved it to himself.
Krasi, whose chat I showed you above, proved it to herself.
What more do you want?
What are you looking for by reading these things and posting them here?
What do you want from us and from life?
Do you really want to find a girlfriend and have women want to go out with you, or do you want to stay home and feel sorry f
r yourself

The 8.5 rating is precisely for your genetics. And you are wasting your good genetics by not maintaining them and not realizing their potential.

I was going to send pictures of the people you showed me from the Internet where they've lost weight and look better, but I don't know how to upload them, it won't let me post them from my phone. I'm about 50-60kg, I'm not fat, but I don't have a flat stomach and I probably have subcutaneous fat to lose.

So, tell me what you think and give counter arguments if you want. I'll write them to him to see what he says. Honestly, I don't really trust him, but I know. Hopefully he's right and we can all find wives. Thank you if you've read all this. By the way, I'm 22.
 
Didn't read the whole thing but it sounds like bluepilled bs, (((dating coaches))) only want to use male loneliness epidemic to make money out of mens desperation.

Don't give any money to this man, and don't listen to his bs.
 
Didn't read the whole thing but it sounds like bluepilled bs, (((dating coaches))) only want to use male loneliness epidemic to make money out of mens desperation.

Don't give any money to this man, and don't listen to his bs.
He doesn't want money from me.
 
Keep posting conversations from people like this it's fun to hear while doing something. He told you to find someone who is ok with dating someone who is short. But the thing is that majority of women only find tall men attractive and you will need to spend a lot of time and effort in finding that person. Even still they will biologically find the tall men attractive and they will always have these men offering themselves to her. Like there are men who are willing to date morbidly obese women but if these men had a slim girl willing to date them they will prefer the slim girl. So with having a lot of good friends maybe they might help you in finding someone who is willing to tolerate you despite you being short. But the thing is that even if you find such a woman there is a really high chance that she will leave you because average and tall men mogs you.
 
Keep posting conversations from people like this it's fun to hear while doing something. He told you to find someone who is ok with dating someone who is short. But the thing is that majority of women only find tall men attractive and you will need to spend a lot of time and effort in finding that person. Even still they will biologically find the tall men attractive and they will always have these men offering themselves to her. Like there are men who are willing to date morbidly obese women but if these men had a slim girl willing to date them they will prefer the slim girl. So with having a lot of good friends maybe they might help you in finding someone who is willing to tolerate you despite you being short. But the thing is that even if you find such a woman there is a really high chance that she will leave you because average and tall men mogs you.
Yes, but he also has handsome and tall men in his group, and because they don't know how to communicate, he says that's why they don't have boyfriends, and some short men who can and give them good emotions, there are
 
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Hello,
I communicate on Discord with a person—let’s call him a dating coach, although he doesn’t call himself that. I haven’t given him any money or anything for free—we simply communicate. He says that women want good emotions and that I know how to communicate. He has given me an example of a short man who has a girlfriend and is 1.45 m tall, while I am 1.60 m. He also said that we could go out to a bar for free and that he could introduce me to people with the same problems as mine, as well as let me communicate with women who are his friends so they can give feedback on my communication.
Here are some other things he says about incels, blackpill, and similar topics:
The men who made those images are just as unsuccessful with women as you are, and they talk this nonsense to make themselves feel better, to avoid blaming themselves for their own laziness, and to avoid taking responsibility to work on themselves.
You keep saying the same things over and over again, and once again I’m telling you that you need to stop blindly believing online nonsense, because you are becoming a victim of it.
It’s not a coincidence that there is a saying: “Don’t listen to people who don’t have the success you want to have.”
All of these stupid theories written above have nothing to do with reality and are complete lies.
My real experience—not only from my own life, but also from communicating in person with several thousand women and several thousand men—has shown me that reality is different.
Only a small percentage of women put physical appearance in first place. As the girl told you as well—first comes communication, second your qualities, third your social status, fourth your body, and only in fifth place your looks and height.
I’ve already told you several times that you shouldn’t blindly believe everything written on the internet.
These things are written by people who have no practical experience and are trying to justify their lack of results.
They have nothing to do with practical reality and rely on the fact that you don’t have the experience to recognize that they are lies.
You are turning into a naive sheep by believing them blindly.
For women, it’s important to feel understood, and if that’s missing, good looks won’t save you.
Women want a charismatic man, and that has nothing to do with physical appearance.
Looks cannot create trust.
Beauty does not compensate for a lack of emotional intelligence.
Good communication has no visual measurements.
A boring person remains boring, no matter how they look. Being boring to a woman is the biggest sin.
Pleasant communication requires attention. If you don’t know how to give proper attention to a woman, she will leave, regardless of your looks.
Women respond to a sense of safety, not to height.
Looks cannot listen. Active listening is a very important skill when communicating with women.
Connection happens on an emotional level, not a visual one. If she doesn’t feel connected to you, your appearance won’t help you.
People seek authenticity, not aesthetics. If she senses that you are fake, she will leave.
The good feeling after a conversation has nothing to do with appearance. If during the conversation you made her feel terrible, that’s what she will remember.
Looks can attract attention, but they don’t keep interest. You need to build yourself into an interesting man.
Confidence does not depend on kilograms or centimeters. Women look for confident men.
Social skills are not visible in the mirror. Communication with people is built. If you’re a silent handsome guy who doesn’t talk to anyone, you’ll still be ignored.
Pleasant company is a function of your inner state. Being good-looking doesn’t make you pleasant to be around.
No one leaves a conversation thinking, “Good thing he was handsome,” but rather, “Good thing I felt good.”
The way you react is more important than how you look. If you react poorly, you’ll make people feel awful in your presence.
Lack of social ease is felt immediately, regardless of appearance. If you’re awkward and cringey, no one will want to communicate with you.
Well, it’s a complex you have to overcome.
You keep drilling the idea into your head that being short is a big problem. That makes you feel bad. That, in turn, leads to negative thoughts, which make you withdraw.
When you withdraw, even if you have opportunities in front of you, you won’t take advantage of them. When you don’t act, you won’t get results. When you don’t get results, your brain starts looking for a reason and closes the loop by blaming your height.
Women don’t ignore you because of your height. You self-sabotage with women because you make your height a problem.
I have never seen a man who has many friends and no success with women.
And certainly, men who are not successful with women either have no male friends at all, or the few male friends they have are just as much losers as they are.
You have no evidence, because you stay at home, have no experience, make no effort to gain your own experience, and listen to the opinions of strangers on the internet.
The problem with lack of experience is that when you hear someone else’s belief, you don’t have personal experience to compare it against.
That’s why when you hear a negative opinion online that resonates with your fears and negative thoughts, you immediately take it at face value.
When you don’t have your own experience, you can’t resist the belief and you accept it as truth.
You don’t even try to analyze beliefs critically.
You haven’t thought about whether these online opinions are objective or subjective.
Dating is the same. You’ve buried yourself in negative opinions from losers who have no real life experience and spread lies just to feel better about their lack of results.
That’s why I told you I’ve never seen a single man who followed the action plan I gave you above and then had no results.
But I have seen thousands of men who don’t put in effort, or put in very mediocre, minimal effort, get no results, and then invent excuses about how hard and unfair it is.
Why do you accept other people’s opinions as objective truth? Just because some girls say they don’t want short men, does that mean it applies to all women? You’ve repeatedly encountered women who told you they have or have had men shorter than them.
The real question isn’t whether women want a tall man. Yes, there are women like that—but there are also women who don’t care at all. The question is how to find the women who don’t care about height.
There are women who will never like a man without a beard. Since I can’t grow a beard, I have no chance with those women, no matter how charismatic I am. My goal is to have attractive charisma for women who don’t care that I don’t have a beard.
There are women who want men who are 180 cm tall, and I don’t qualify. My goal is to find the ones who don’t care that I’m under 180.
There are women who want millionaires and would never date me. My goal is to find and be charismatic for women who don’t care that I’m not a millionaire.
There are women who only like muscular men. My goal is to communicate with women who don’t care what kind of body I have.
For every female criterion you hear online, in real life you will find women who don’t care about that criterion, as well as women who would make an exception.
I’ll give you an example with my ex-girlfriend. Before me, all of her boyfriends were bodybuilding competitors or MMA fighters. I’m the first man in her life who has absolutely no built physique.
Why did she make an exception for me, despite the belly and lack of muscles? Because she changed as a person, developed, and no longer places that kind of importance on muscles. She had been too disappointed by that type of men and started valuing values and intellect more than physical appearance.
Така че трябва да спрете да се фокусирате върху това, което жените казват онлайн, защото винаги ще има жени с коренно различни критерии.

Basically he says I don't know how to communicate with women and I don't communicate with them in general and he says to stop reading about incels, blackpill and generally about studies and the like. He says to work out, talk to women live to give pleasant emotions and such. He also sent these pictures.


Second, the AI analyst told you the same.
Third, you are still young and the male face matures in attractiveness until your 30th year.
Fourth, the amount of body fat plays a big role in how attractive your face is. When you have about 15% subcutaneous fat, your face is smoothed out and you become even more attractive.
Fifth, it is full of ugly men who date beautiful women, because women care more about how you make them feel. Even if you are super handsome, if you have a negative mindset, grumbling, without self-confidence, you are constantly afraid, this automatically makes you unattractive to women.
No matter how much you read on the internet, practice shows that your actions and your mindset are the most determining thing whether you will be successful with women.
I proved it to myself.
Mitko proved it to himself.
Krasi, whose chat I showed you above, proved it to herself.
What more do you want?
What are you looking for by reading these things and posting them here?
What do you want from us and from life?
Do you really want to find a girlfriend and have women want to go out with you, or do you want to stay home and feel sorry f
r yourself

The 8.5 rating is precisely for your genetics. And you are wasting your good genetics by not maintaining them and not realizing their potential.

I was going to send pictures of the people you showed me from the Internet where they've lost weight and look better, but I don't know how to upload them, it won't let me post them from my phone. I'm about 50-60kg, I'm not fat, but I don't have a flat stomach and I probably have subcutaneous fat to lose.

So, tell me what you think and give counter arguments if you want. I'll write them to him to see what he says. Honestly, I don't really trust him, but I know. Hopefully he's right and we can all find wives. Thank you if you've read all this. By the way, I'm 22.

View: https://youtu.be/7NkzTFsWWxo?si=3qkteqQj4gb0mUCo
 
TL;DR Version
Just improove bro

I actually bothered to read the whole thing btw.
 
Before I even bother, first you have to understand this—if any guy needs to go to a 'dating coach' or needs to 'self-improve' in order to attract women or make friends, then he is a complete loser and no amount of effort put into improving said qualities will ever amount to results that mean anything. This is for various reasons, but the most important two would be that you, first of all, missed out on experiencing natural, teenage love and other developmental milestones—and that, second, normal people who are not genetic dead-ends have never once thought of these things at any point in their life. People just live their lives and things like kissing, relationships, and intercourse naturally happen to them. While you're out here trying to theorize the best way to get a girl to not be repulsed by you when you talk to her, one of your old classmates simply walks up to a girl, naturally 'clicks' with her, and courts her.

That is the human experience—of which, you are not. You are, and I mean this in the kindest way one can mean it, a subhuman. You spend your days endlessly trying to improve yourself just so that women, and perhaps people at large, give you even a modicum of attention and respect—churning away hours of your life incessantly trying to diagnose what trait of yours is defunct so that you can leave it behind or, in some cases, alter it so that it should serve you as a boon instead. It is impossible, though, the gray of your world is endemic to who you are.

If you failed to socialize while you were young, and therefore developing said skills—it is over for you.
If you failed to experience what it is like to be loved, and what it is like to be desired—it is over for you.

These things are critical to how one develops in his life, and they shan't be acquired later down the line. After all, the human mind is merely an extension of the body, and does your body persist in its growth past your adolescence? It is done, your race has ended, even though you may have never even known it had started. That is not strange, though, because as critical as said experiences are—they are not often sought. That is, it is Nature's way of weeding out the weak, incompetent and feeble from the world. You either experience that which makes you human—or you do not. Whichever it is, it was chosen from the moment you were conceived.

Even if you were to miraculously find your pursuits fruitful tomorrow, what would it matter? The period of your development has long passed you by, and you will find yourself at the bottom of society. You will be used, cheated, conned, swindled, and ultimately discarded once you've been wrung dry. There are experiences and periods that you will never get back no matter how much you 'improve.' Time is an accomplice to Fate's artifices, after all.

You are, at best, an imitation of a human being. You may experience what it means to be conscious, and emotions such as fear, sorrow, spite, and anger—but you will never sincerely be a human. That title is reserved for that which Nature and Fate favored, of which, you and I were not among. You should at minimum take solace in the fact that it was not your fault.
 
The men who made those images are just as unsuccessful with women as you are, and they talk this nonsense to make themselves feel better, to avoid blaming themselves for their own laziness, and to avoid taking responsibility to work on themselves.
I couldn't possibly know what images you shared with him, but I'm going to suppose that it's merely your typical black-pill proof that gets shown around to normgroids. Regardless, he's not entirely incorrect—that is, a lot of these images serve a secondary purpose of making it easier for us to accept what we are. It does not, however, stem from a lack of effort on our part. But rather, these very pictures serve the main purpose of proving what we've been saying all along. They are meant to educate and prove a point, and we merely so happen to benefit from that.

That is all to say, it makes no sense to dismiss the images merely because of who they came from. Many people share and discuss the black-pill regularly, and of those people, a lot are successful with girls and serve to only gain through the discussion of looksmaxxing. Sure, it may have come from us, who art 'unsuccessful with women,' but how does that change the actual content of the images themselves? Obviously, it doesn't—and therefore it's a fallacious rebuttal.
You keep saying the same things over and over again, and once again I’m telling you that you need to stop blindly believing online nonsense, because you are becoming a victim of it.
Your persistence doth suggest that you are not entirely convinced of his arguments. I shan't tell you what to believe—but if you ask me, there's only one person here who's insisting that you blindly believe in something.
It’s not a coincidence that there is a saying: “Don’t listen to people who don’t have the success you want to have.”
Again, he's actually not entirely wrong. In my experience, you're often far better off listening to people who actually managed to attain whatever it is that you are striving for. Or, at least, that's usually the case. Even so, it is not as if those who did happen to fail are speaking to you in bad-faith—oft are they simply telling you their path and what went wrong. Even without paying regard to that aspect, the saying itself is very situational and should be applied sparingly. Would you, for instance, take the advice of a wealthy man earned his riches through gambling?

Subhumans cannot possibly hope to apply the advice of humans—because humans oft lack any sincere understanding of why they attained what they did. As I wrote in my previous reply to you, these things just happen naturally to them. They haven't a clue how it actually came to be, it is, at best, just vague guesses and theories.
All of these stupid theories written above have nothing to do with reality and are complete lies.
And he has decided this because...?
My real experience—not only from my own life, but also from communicating in person with several thousand women and several thousand men—has shown me that reality is different.
So it is anecdotal? How ridiculous. I hadn't mentioned it yet, but it is not often that theories and statements presented here come with a lack of statistics. If you really wanted to get into it, there is an entire sub-section of the black-pill, labeled the 'Scientific Black-pill,' that is dedicated to proving itself entirely through citations of statistics and various studies. I couldn't possibly be the one to actually lay out what most of it means, as I'm most unqualified for such a task... but I do suggest that one reads through it on his own time. You can make your own decisions from there.
Only a small percentage of women put physical appearance in first place. As the girl told you as well—first comes communication, second your qualities, third your social status, fourth your body, and only in fifth place your looks and height.
It may be true—If you disregard reality, that is.
I’ve already told you several times that you shouldn’t blindly believe everything written on the internet.
Irrelevant.
These things are written by people who have no practical experience and are trying to justify their lack of results.
Irrelevant.
They have nothing to do with practical reality and rely on the fact that you don’t have the experience to recognize that they are lies.
I have already answered this for the most part, but I would like to add that you should be very wary of what others deem 'success.' Not every relationship, for instance, I would consider to be 'successful.' You are new here, so I don't except you to know the full extent of it, but there are many men out there who are in relationships of deceit where they are being exploited and used by their supposed 'loving'—and often adulterous—partners. There are many fates worse than being an incel, and that is certainly one of them.
You are turning into a naive sheep by believing them blindly.
Irrelevant.
For women, it’s important to feel understood, and if that’s missing, good looks won’t save you.
Women will often say things along those lines, and it very well could be that they are being honest. What women say, however, is very different from what they actually do. For instance, I'm sure you're aware of the notorious 'creepy-mysterious' dichotomy, no? Where a woman will find an attractive man who is reserved, shy, and overly withdrawn to be 'mysterious,' 'brooding,' or 'enigmatic.' A less-than-ideal male given the same traits, however, will be labeled 'creepy.'

In both cases, the woman has not lied—she dislikes men who are 'creepy.' What she actually considers that to be, however, changes with who she is talking about.
Women want a charismatic man, and that has nothing to do with physical appearance.
Irrelevant.
Looks cannot create trust.
With exception to the thousands upon thousands of documentated cases where they have, I'd imagine? Serial killers like Ted Bundy were so successful primarily because of their looks. It made it easier to get away with people simply assuming he was an ordinary civilan and soothed the woman he killed's nerves so they were less reserved and more trusting of him.
Beauty does not compensate for a lack of emotional intelligence.
'EmOtIoNaL InTeLlIgEnCe' is a made-up term that has no meaning. Irrelevant.
Good communication has no visual measurements.
Irrelevant.
A boring person remains boring, no matter how they look. Being boring to a woman is the biggest sin.
Irrelevant.
Pleasant communication requires attention. If you don’t know how to give proper attention to a woman, she will leave, regardless of your looks.
I was going to say that this is also irrelevant since it may as well have already been answered by one of my prior responses (which, if it wasn't apparent, is what I typically mean when I say that)—but I'd also like to add that he is completly dismissing the point that a lot of males who struggle with social interaction struggle because of their looks. It is for various reasons, but I'd say that it's primarily because they both lacked the necesarry experiences to develop said skills back in their youth, and that their looks make it harder for people to find them conversable to begin with (since they are percieved as untrustworthy or creepy).
Women respond to a sense of safety, not to height.
Height is directly correlated with women feeling 'safe' and stems from a biological instinct in women. Many whores have directly stated that this is the case and label it as one of the reasons as to why they refuse to date a short man.
Looks cannot listen. Active listening is a very important skill when communicating with women.
Irrelevant.
Connection happens on an emotional level, not a visual one. If she doesn’t feel connected to you, your appearance won’t help you.
Irrelevant.
People seek authenticity, not aesthetics. If she senses that you are fake, she will leave.
LMAO, irrelevant.
The good feeling after a conversation has nothing to do with appearance. If during the conversation you made her feel terrible, that’s what she will remember.
He just keeps cycling through what may as well be the same talking point over and over again. You can see plenty of cases where women in droves will start lusting over men who are visually attractive, even despite the fact that they've never had the chance to converse with them at any point.
Looks can attract attention, but they don’t keep interest. You need to build yourself into an interesting man.
Irrelevant.
Confidence does not depend on kilograms or centimeters. Women look for confident men.
Returning to what I said about a man's 'social skills' being correlated to how he was treated growing up, in the same vein would be a man's 'confidence.' Confidence is not something you can merely feign—you either have it or you don't. I suppose that he would respond to that and say something along the lines of 'which is why you need to be confident in yourself,' but confidence distilled from delusion doesn't mean much, either. If I threw a scarlet marble into a jar containing millions of black marbles and told you to draw continously—would you be confident that you would draw the scarlet marble?

I should suppose that he means 'assured.' In that sense, using myself as an example, I would say that I am assured of myself and my name—perhaps it is surprising to some, but I do not hate myself, nor do I particularly think humans I interact with as beings 'above' me in any sense. Well, in any sense other than philisophical and spirtual, I suppose... Regardless, would you like to wager my success, should I strike up a conversation with a girl right this moment? Alas, my situation changeth not—'assurance' serves you no purpose.
Social skills are not visible in the mirror. Communication with people is built. If you’re a silent handsome guy who doesn’t talk to anyone, you’ll still be ignored.
Irrelevant.
Pleasant company is a function of your inner state. Being good-looking doesn’t make you pleasant to be around.
Irrelveant—although I would like to add, have you ever seen a lonely handsome guy?
No one leaves a conversation thinking, “Good thing he was handsome,” but rather, “Good thing I felt good.”
Irrelevant.
The way you react is more important than how you look. If you react poorly, you’ll make people feel awful in your presence.
How you react to certain things is more often than not an instinctual response that you learned in your adolescence. Again, basing off what I've stated before, your looks and upbringing are henceforth directly correlated with said reactions.
Lack of social ease is felt immediately, regardless of appearance. If you’re awkward and cringey, no one will want to communicate with you.
Awkward and cringey become 'funny' and 'interesting' when you're handsome.
Well, it’s a complex you have to overcome.
Complexes rarely stem from something that is not true. Thus, 'overcoming' them is not so easy of a task as he flippantly regards it as—and, in some cases, impossible.
You keep drilling the idea into your head that being short is a big problem. That makes you feel bad. That, in turn, leads to negative thoughts, which make you withdraw.
When you withdraw, even if you have opportunities in front of you, you won’t take advantage of them. When you don’t act, you won’t get results. When you don’t get results, your brain starts looking for a reason and closes the loop by blaming your height.
I've grown weary of hearing this drivel. You could source my response from the replies I've already provided, but I'll extend an act of graciousness and persist in my direct reply.

Your brain is naturally designed to recognize patterns. I implore you to take the advice of your 'dating coach' and sincerely try your hardest at courting a woman—with the caveat, of course, that you must be wary as to not fall into a trap of being conned (for any resources you may possess). You needn't, of course, if it should be inconvenient to you for one reason or another—I could certainly tell you the results just from my own personal experience. Regardless, once you return, reflect on precisely why it was that your endeavor proved fruitless. Do you believe that it was because of your confidence—abstract the idea may be—that you allegedly lack? Maybe your uncultivated social skills?

Or, perhaps... it could be the trait inherent to you that millions upon millions of other men have lamented over possessing? I'm not telling you what to think—do make your own decisions. But it's something to dwell on.
Women don’t ignore you because of your height. You self-sabotage with women because you make your height a problem.
Irrelevant.
I have never seen a man who has many friends and no success with women.
I have, and by sheer virtue of analogy, my statement is as valid as his.
And certainly, men who are not successful with women either have no male friends at all, or the few male friends they have are just as much losers as they are.
How insulting...
You have no evidence, because you stay at home, have no experience, make no effort to gain your own experience, and listen to the opinions of strangers on the internet.
The problem with lack of experience is that when you hear someone else’s belief, you don’t have personal experience to compare it against.
That’s why when you hear a negative opinion online that resonates with your fears and negative thoughts, you immediately take it at face value.
Irrelevant.
When you don’t have your own experience, you can’t resist the belief and you accept it as truth.
You don’t even try to analyze beliefs critically.
Irrelevant.
You haven’t thought about whether these online opinions are objective or subjective.
And his opinions are supposed to be the 'objective' ones? Fufufu~
Dating is the same. You’ve buried yourself in negative opinions from losers who have no real life experience and spread lies just to feel better about their lack of results.
That’s why I told you I’ve never seen a single man who followed the action plan I gave you above and then had no results.
Send me his supposed 'action plan' and I will go through it step-by-step and tell you why it's fake and gay. I would wager that his action plan involves some kind of alteration to yourself in order to appear desirable only in the sense of being able to provide resources to a woman and care for her and her young. Or, in other words, to be the latter-half in the Dual-Mating Strategy—which I implore you to read the page of here.

But I have seen thousands of men who don’t put in effort, or put in very mediocre, minimal effort, get no results, and then invent excuses about how hard and unfair it is.
Why do you accept other people’s opinions as objective truth? Just because some girls say they don’t want short men, does that mean it applies to all women? You’ve repeatedly encountered women who told you they have or have had men shorter than them.
Under what conditions have these girls dated men shorter than them? Often, they're merely using a man for his resources, as I've already repeatedly stated—but it is only further proven by the fact that shorter men oft find themselves in far more stressful relationships than tall men.
The real question isn’t whether women want a tall man. Yes, there are women like that—but there are also women who don’t care at all. The question is how to find the women who don’t care about height.
You cannot.
There are women who will never like a man without a beard. Since I can’t grow a beard, I have no chance with those women, no matter how charismatic I am. My goal is to have attractive charisma for women who don’t care that I don’t have a beard.
Ironically, he is greatly overstressing how much women care about minor things on a man, whilst simultaneously completely ignoring the major things that are unnegotiable, such as your height or general facial attractiveness. I suppose, in a sense, his argument is correct—there are women who will never like men without a particular trait, and since you can never achieve those traits, you have no chance with them and should therefore not waste your time in pursuit of those women. But, I mustn't lie, I have never seen 'the inability to grow a beard' as a trait that women will turn a man down for.

I have, however, certainly seen 'height' as one of those traits—and on nearly if not all women, too! How kind of him to only further reinforce our bleak reality. What an utter retard.
There are women who want men who are 180 cm tall, and I don’t qualify. My goal is to find the ones who don’t care that I’m under 180.
There are women who want millionaires and would never date me. My goal is to find and be charismatic for women who don’t care that I’m not a millionaire.
There are women who only like muscular men. My goal is to communicate with women who don’t care what kind of body I have.
Irrelevant.
For every female criterion you hear online, in real life you will find women who don’t care about that criterion, as well as women who would make an exception.
I’ll give you an example with my ex-girlfriend. Before me, all of her boyfriends were bodybuilding competitors or MMA fighters. I’m the first man in her life who has absolutely no built physique.
Why did she make an exception for me, despite the belly and lack of muscles? Because she changed as a person, developed, and no longer places that kind of importance on muscles. She had been too disappointed by that type of men and started valuing values and intellect more than physical appearance.
What a looooooooooooooooooong way to say 'I was settled for.' How humorous!
 
Before I even bother, first you have to understand this—if any guy needs to go to a 'dating coach' or needs to 'self-improve' in order to attract women or make friends, then he is a complete loser and no amount of effort put into improving said qualities will ever amount to results that mean anything. This is for various reasons, but the most important two would be that you, first of all, missed out on experiencing natural, teenage love and other developmental milestones—and that, second, normal people who are not genetic dead-ends have never once thought of these things at any point in their life. People just live their lives and things like kissing, relationships, and intercourse naturally happen to them. While you're out here trying to theorize the best way to get a girl to not be repulsed by you when you talk to her, one of your old classmates simply walks up to a girl, naturally 'clicks' with her, and courts her.

That is the human experience—of which, you are not. You are, and I mean this in the kindest way one can mean it, a subhuman. You spend your days endlessly trying to improve yourself just so that women, and perhaps people at large, give you even a modicum of attention and respect—churning away hours of your life incessantly trying to diagnose what trait of yours is defunct so that you can leave it behind or, in some cases, alter it so that it should serve you as a boon instead. It is impossible, though, the gray of your world is endemic to who you are.

If you failed to socialize while you were young, and therefore developing said skills—it is over for you.
If you failed to experience what it is like to be loved, and what it is like to be desired—it is over for you.

These things are critical to how one develops in his life, and they shan't be acquired later down the line. After all, the human mind is merely an extension of the body, and does your body persist in its growth past your adolescence? It is done, your race has ended, even though you may have never even known it had started. That is not strange, though, because as critical as said experiences are—they are not often sought. That is, it is Nature's way of weeding out the weak, incompetent and feeble from the world. You either experience that which makes you human—or you do not. Whichever it is, it was chosen from the moment you were conceived.

Even if you were to miraculously find your pursuits fruitful tomorrow, what would it matter? The period of your development has long passed you by, and you will find yourself at the bottom of society. You will be used, cheated, conned, swindled, and ultimately discarded once you've been wrung dry. There are experiences and periods that you will never get back no matter how much you 'improve.' Time is an accomplice to Fate's artifices, after all.

You are, at best, an imitation of a human being. You may experience what it means to be conscious, and emotions such as fear, sorrow, spite, and anger—but you will never sincerely be a human. That title is reserved for that which Nature and Fate favored, of which, you and I were not among. You should at minimum take solace in the fact that it was not your fault.

Before I even bother, first you have to understand this—if any guy needs to go to a 'dating coach' or needs to 'self-improve' in order to attract women or make friends, then he is a complete loser and no amount of effort put into improving said qualities will ever amount to results that mean anything. This is for various reasons, but the most important two would be that you, first of all, missed out on experiencing natural, teenage love and other developmental milestones—and that, second, normal people who are not genetic dead-ends have never once thought of these things at any point in their life. People just live their lives and things like kissing, relationships, and intercourse naturally happen to them. While you're out here trying to theorize the best way to get a girl to not be repulsed by you when you talk to her, one of your old classmates simply walks up to a girl, naturally 'clicks' with her, and courts her.

That is the human experience—of which, you are not. You are, and I mean this in the kindest way one can mean it, a subhuman. You spend your days endlessly trying to improve yourself just so that women, and perhaps people at large, give you even a modicum of attention and respect—churning away hours of your life incessantly trying to diagnose what trait of yours is defunct so that you can leave it behind or, in some cases, alter it so that it should serve you as a boon instead. It is impossible, though, the gray of your world is endemic to who you are.

If you failed to socialize while you were young, and therefore developing said skills—it is over for you.
If you failed to experience what it is like to be loved, and what it is like to be desired—it is over for you.

These things are critical to how one develops in his life, and they shan't be acquired later down the line. After all, the human mind is merely an extension of the body, and does your body persist in its growth past your adolescence? It is done, your race has ended, even though you may have never even known it had started. That is not strange, though, because as critical as said experiences are—they are not often sought. That is, it is Nature's way of weeding out the weak, incompetent and feeble from the world. You either experience that which makes you human—or you do not. Whichever it is, it was chosen from the moment you were conceived.

Even if you were to miraculously find your pursuits fruitful tomorrow, what would it matter? The period of your development has long passed you by, and you will find yourself at the bottom of society. You will be used, cheated, conned, swindled, and ultimately discarded once you've been wrung dry. There are experiences and periods that you will never get back no matter how much you 'improve.' Time is an accomplice to Fate's artifices, after all.

You are, at best, an imitation of a human being. You may experience what it means to be conscious, and emotions such as fear, sorrow, spite, and anger—but you will never sincerely be a human. That title is reserved for that which Nature and Fate favored, of which, you and I were not among. You should at minimum take solace in the fact that it was not your fault.
Yes, but I don't have a normal lifestyle. I was bullied at school and that's why I have problems with communication with myself, grades and the like. I haven't done anything that the dating coach says. I don't go out to talk to women, I don't dress well, I don't have a good haircut, I don't go to the gym, I don't even work or study. I don't make any effort, I just talk about my height, I read about blackpill and get depressed, I masturbate and watch porn. I think it wouldn't be bad when I find a job to go to a psychologist because my lifestyle is not normal and I want to be normal, have a girlriend, work, study, hobbies and not just think about porn, masturbating, blackpill and that's it.
 
I couldn't possibly know what images you shared with him, but I'm going to suppose that it's merely your typical black-pill proof that gets shown around to normgroids. Regardless, he's not entirely incorrect—that is, a lot of these images serve a secondary purpose of making it easier for us to accept what we are. It does not, however, stem from a lack of effort on our part. But rather, these very pictures serve the main purpose of proving what we've been saying all along. They are meant to educate and prove a point, and we merely so happen to benefit from that.

That is all to say, it makes no sense to dismiss the images merely because of who they came from. Many people share and discuss the black-pill regularly, and of those people, a lot are successful with girls and serve to only gain through the discussion of looksmaxxing. Sure, it may have come from us, who art 'unsuccessful with women,' but how does that change the actual content of the images themselves? Obviously, it doesn't—and therefore it's a fallacious rebuttal.

Your persistence doth suggest that you are not entirely convinced of his arguments. I shan't tell you what to believe—but if you ask me, there's only one person here who's insisting that you blindly believe in something.

Again, he's actually not entirely wrong. In my experience, you're often far better off listening to people who actually managed to attain whatever it is that you are striving for. Or, at least, that's usually the case. Even so, it is not as if those who did happen to fail are speaking to you in bad-faith—oft are they simply telling you their path and what went wrong. Even without paying regard to that aspect, the saying itself is very situational and should be applied sparingly. Would you, for instance, take the advice of a wealthy man earned his riches through gambling?

Subhumans cannot possibly hope to apply the advice of humans—because humans oft lack any sincere understanding of why they attained what they did. As I wrote in my previous reply to you, these things just happen naturally to them. They haven't a clue how it actually came to be, it is, at best, just vague guesses and theories.

And he has decided this because...?

So it is anecdotal? How ridiculous. I hadn't mentioned it yet, but it is not often that theories and statements presented here come with a lack of statistics. If you really wanted to get into it, there is an entire sub-section of the black-pill, labeled the 'Scientific Black-pill,' that is dedicated to proving itself entirely through citations of statistics and various studies. I couldn't possibly be the one to actually lay out what most of it means, as I'm most unqualified for such a task... but I do suggest that one reads through it on his own time. You can make your own decisions from there.

It may be true—If you disregard reality, that is.

Irrelevant.

Irrelevant.

I have already answered this for the most part, but I would like to add that you should be very wary of what others deem 'success.' Not every relationship, for instance, I would consider to be 'successful.' You are new here, so I don't except you to know the full extent of it, but there are many men out there who are in relationships of deceit where they are being exploited and used by their supposed 'loving'—and often adulterous—partners. There are many fates worse than being an incel, and that is certainly one of them.

Irrelevant.

Women will often say things along those lines, and it very well could be that they are being honest. What women say, however, is very different from what they actually do. For instance, I'm sure you're aware of the notorious 'creepy-mysterious' dichotomy, no? Where a woman will find an attractive man who is reserved, shy, and overly withdrawn to be 'mysterious,' 'brooding,' or 'enigmatic.' A less-than-ideal male given the same traits, however, will be labeled 'creepy.'

In both cases, the woman has not lied—she dislikes men who are 'creepy.' What she actually considers that to be, however, changes with who she is talking about.

Irrelevant.

With exception to the thousands upon thousands of documentated cases where they have, I'd imagine? Serial killers like Ted Bundy were so successful primarily because of their looks. It made it easier to get away with people simply assuming he was an ordinary civilan and soothed the woman he killed's nerves so they were less reserved and more trusting of him.

'EmOtIoNaL InTeLlIgEnCe' is a made-up term that has no meaning. Irrelevant.

Irrelevant.

Irrelevant.

I was going to say that this is also irrelevant since it may as well have already been answered by one of my prior responses (which, if it wasn't apparent, is what I typically mean when I say that)—but I'd also like to add that he is completly dismissing the point that a lot of males who struggle with social interaction struggle because of their looks. It is for various reasons, but I'd say that it's primarily because they both lacked the necesarry experiences to develop said skills back in their youth, and that their looks make it harder for people to find them conversable to begin with (since they are percieved as untrustworthy or creepy).

Height is directly correlated with women feeling 'safe' and stems from a biological instinct in women. Many whores have directly stated that this is the case and label it as one of the reasons as to why they refuse to date a short man.

Irrelevant.

Irrelevant.

LMAO, irrelevant.

He just keeps cycling through what may as well be the same talking point over and over again. You can see plenty of cases where women in droves will start lusting over men who are visually attractive, even despite the fact that they've never had the chance to converse with them at any point.

Irrelevant.

Returning to what I said about a man's 'social skills' being correlated to how he was treated growing up, in the same vein would be a man's 'confidence.' Confidence is not something you can merely feign—you either have it or you don't. I suppose that he would respond to that and say something along the lines of 'which is why you need to be confident in yourself,' but confidence distilled from delusion doesn't mean much, either. If I threw a scarlet marble into a jar containing millions of black marbles and told you to draw continously—would you be confident that you would draw the scarlet marble?

I should suppose that he means 'assured.' In that sense, using myself as an example, I would say that I am assured of myself and my name—perhaps it is surprising to some, but I do not hate myself, nor do I particularly think humans I interact with as beings 'above' me in any sense. Well, in any sense other than philisophical and spirtual, I suppose... Regardless, would you like to wager my success, should I strike up a conversation with a girl right this moment? Alas, my situation changeth not—'assurance' serves you no purpose.

Irrelevant.

Irrelveant—although I would like to add, have you ever seen a lonely handsome guy?

Irrelevant.

How you react to certain things is more often than not an instinctual response that you learned in your adolescence. Again, basing off what I've stated before, your looks and upbringing are henceforth directly correlated with said reactions.

Awkward and cringey become 'funny' and 'interesting' when you're handsome.

Complexes rarely stem from something that is not true. Thus, 'overcoming' them is not so easy of a task as he flippantly regards it as—and, in some cases, impossible.

I've grown weary of hearing this drivel. You could source my response from the replies I've already provided, but I'll extend an act of graciousness and persist in my direct reply.

Your brain is naturally designed to recognize patterns. I implore you to take the advice of your 'dating coach' and sincerely try your hardest at courting a woman—with the caveat, of course, that you must be wary as to not fall into a trap of being conned (for any resources you may possess). You needn't, of course, if it should be inconvenient to you for one reason or another—I could certainly tell you the results just from my own personal experience. Regardless, once you return, reflect on precisely why it was that your endeavor proved fruitless. Do you believe that it was because of your confidence—abstract the idea may be—that you allegedly lack? Maybe your uncultivated social skills?

Or, perhaps... it could be the trait inherent to you that millions upon millions of other men have lamented over possessing? I'm not telling you what to think—do make your own decisions. But it's something to dwell on.

Irrelevant.

I have, and by sheer virtue of analogy, my statement is as valid as his.

How insulting...

Irrelevant.

Irrelevant.

And his opinions are supposed to be the 'objective' ones? Fufufu~

Send me his supposed 'action plan' and I will go through it step-by-step and tell you why it's fake and gay. I would wager that his action plan involves some kind of alteration to yourself in order to appear desirable only in the sense of being able to provide resources to a woman and care for her and her young. Or, in other words, to be the latter-half in the Dual-Mating Strategy—which I implore you to read the page of here.


Under what conditions have these girls dated men shorter than them? Often, they're merely using a man for his resources, as I've already repeatedly stated—but it is only further proven by the fact that shorter men oft find themselves in far more stressful relationships than tall men.

You cannot.

Ironically, he is greatly overstressing how much women care about minor things on a man, whilst simultaneously completely ignoring the major things that are unnegotiable, such as your height or general facial attractiveness. I suppose, in a sense, his argument is correct—there are women who will never like men without a particular trait, and since you can never achieve those traits, you have no chance with them and should therefore not waste your time in pursuit of those women. But, I mustn't lie, I have never seen 'the inability to grow a beard' as a trait that women will turn a man down for.

I have, however, certainly seen 'height' as one of those traits—and on nearly if not all women, too! How kind of him to only further reinforce our bleak reality. What an utter retard.

Irrelevant.

What a looooooooooooooooooong way to say 'I was settled for.' How humorous!
I don't flirt with women in person or communicate with them. I understand you and I understand him and I want him to be right and I want to find a boyfriend. He also said that if I want we can go out to a bar for free to introduce me to men with the same problems who are short and normal looking but have success with women he showed me about a man who is 147cm tall who has a wife and has been on 20 dates but he is a programmer and I guess he has money
 
Yes, but I don't have a normal lifestyle. I was bullied at school and that's why I have problems with communication with myself, grades and the like. I haven't done anything that the dating coach says. I don't go out to talk to women, I don't dress well, I don't have a good haircut, I don't go to the gym, I don't even work or study. I don't make any effort, I just talk about my height, I read about blackpill and get depressed, I masturbate and watch porn. I think it wouldn't be bad when I find a job to go to a psychologist because my lifestyle is not normal and I want to be normal, have a girlriend, work, study, hobbies and not just think about porn, masturbating, blackpill and that's it.
If you don't do those things, it's because you were never meant to do them to begin with. These are habits that normal people simply pick up naturally and don't have to go out of their way to achieve. Simply put, you will never be normal, as 'normal' is not something you attain. You are either normal or you are not. Should you choose to pursue it regardless of what I've said—and you're more than welcome should you doubt what I'm saying—it will be naught but a form of mimicry. That is, you will try and achieve it only to find that you have no concept of what such a thing even entails. At what point do you become 'normal?' Is it when you finally get that haircut? When you start brushing your teeth? When you start working out? It's utterly meaningless, you can't merely 'become normal' just from partaking in any kind of action.

That is all to say, if you truly yearn to be an epigone, then that is not a bad choice. Please do not have me mistaken, I am not saying that you shouldn't chase such habits—you should, just for the sake of your own health and life. Many people on here regularly go to the gym, build their careers, and study to get good grades. It is equally as valid as those who choose to do nothing but rot in their rooms—as striving for anything is just a cope that doesn't change anything in particular.

If you are pursuing them, however, in hopes that they will lead to people's acceptance, then there is no point. Do you understand me?
 
I don't flirt with women in person or communicate with them. I understand you and I understand him and I want him to be right and I want to find a girlfriend. He also said that if I want we can go out to a bar for free to introduce me to men with the same problems who are short and normal looking but have success with women he showed me about a man who is 147cm tall who has a wife and has been on 20 dates but he is a programmer and I guess he has money
The number of dates a man has been on is irrelevant, it is not a factor of success—quite the opposite, really. Men who need repeatedly go on dates must go on them because he has no other means of ensuring a woman maintains her interest in him. Perhaps you should see it suggested to you that the purpose of dates are to communicate and discern whether or not the other one is a good match for yourself. But that's false, its purpose is to provide a less-than-ideal man an opportunity to flaunt his money in hopes that the woman would agree to be with him in exchange for his resources.

Again, if you haven't, I strongly urge you to read this Wikipedia article. You can do it in your native language, of course.

Communication could be said to be a part of it, but it is secondary to what I told you. If you don't believe me, do humor me and go out and take women on dates that are cheap. Take her to a park, for instance—suggest that you two merely walk around. Or perhaps a picnic? It shan't matter, anything that is cheap will do. When she inevitably looks at you with disgust and offense before walking off, you'll understand what I'm trying to tell you.

Having a wife is equally as, if not more, pathetic than taking women on countless dates that lead nowhere. That is, marriage is an outdated institution that serves no purpose in the modern day other than to provide a means to women who wish to secure any man's resources for herself—or so, 'to leech off him.' The only people who get married are men who can't possibly convince a woman to have sex with them any other way. Real successful men just go around in casual relationships and settle down far, far later into their life.

No matter. If you want to go to the bar with him, go ahead. Although I should say, you should be wary as to what his definition of 'success' actually entails—you don't want to get stuck 20 years down the line in a miserable, loveless marriage that you're unable to leave, after all.
 
The number of dates a man has been on is irrelevant, it is not a factor of success—quite the opposite, really. Men who need repeatedly go on dates must go on them because he has no other means of ensuring a woman maintains her interest in him. Perhaps you should see it suggested to you that the purpose of dates are to communicate and discern whether or not the other one is a good match for yourself. But that's false, its purpose is to provide a less-than-ideal man an opportunity to flaunt his money in hopes that the woman would agree to be with him in exchange for his resources.

Again, if you haven't, I strongly urge you to read this Wikipedia article. You can do it in your native language, of course.

Communication could be said to be a part of it, but it is secondary to what I told you. If you don't believe me, do humor me and go out and take women on dates that are cheap. Take her to a park, for instance—suggest that you two merely walk around. Or perhaps a picnic? It shan't matter, anything that is cheap will do. When she inevitably looks at you with disgust and offense before walking off, you'll understand what I'm trying to tell you.

Having a wife is equally as, if not more, pathetic than taking women on countless dates that lead nowhere. That is, marriage is an outdated institution that serves no purpose in the modern day other than to provide a means to women who wish to secure any man's resources for herself—or so, 'to leech off him.' The only people who get married are men who can't possibly convince a woman to have sex with them any other way. Real successful men just go around in casual relationships and settle down far, far later into their life.

No matter. If you want to go to the bar with him, go ahead. Although I should say, you should be wary as to what his definition of 'success' actually entails—you don't want to get stuck 20 years down the line in a miserable, loveless marriage that you're unable to leave, after all.
If you want to see what I look like, to rate me, you have to write to me on Reddit. And what do you suggest I do nothing, lie down and continue this lifestyle. Actually, I might have this lifestyle because I've been taking my emotions very deep inside. The most constant thing is your change, how do you look, have you dated women, what have you tried, have you had sex, have you had a girlfriend?
 
If you want to see what I look like, to rate me, you have to write to me on Reddit. And what do you suggest I do nothing, lie down and continue this lifestyle. Actually, I might have this lifestyle because I've been taking my emotions very deep inside. The most constant thing is your change, how do you look, have you dated women, what have you tried, have you had sex, have you had a girlfriend?
What? Have you been reading what I've typed? Well, I suppose I wouldn't fault you if you hadn't...
 
Waste of time and money
 
Before I even bother, first you have to understand this—if any guy needs to go to a 'dating coach' or needs to 'self-improve' in order to attract women or make friends, then he is a complete loser and no amount of effort put into improving said qualities will ever amount to results that mean anything. This is for various reasons, but the most important two would be that you, first of all, missed out on experiencing natural, teenage love and other developmental milestones—and that, second, normal people who are not genetic dead-ends have never once thought of these things at any point in their life. People just live their lives and things like kissing, relationships, and intercourse naturally happen to them. While you're out here trying to theorize the best way to get a girl to not be repulsed by you when you talk to her, one of your old classmates simply walks up to a girl, naturally 'clicks' with her, and courts her.

That is the human experience—of which, you are not. You are, and I mean this in the kindest way one can mean it, a subhuman. You spend your days endlessly trying to improve yourself just so that women, and perhaps people at large, give you even a modicum of attention and respect—churning away hours of your life incessantly trying to diagnose what trait of yours is defunct so that you can leave it behind or, in some cases, alter it so that it should serve you as a boon instead. It is impossible, though, the gray of your world is endemic to who you are.

If you failed to socialize while you were young, and therefore developing said skills—it is over for you.
If you failed to experience what it is like to be loved, and what it is like to be desired—it is over for you.

These things are critical to how one develops in his life, and they shan't be acquired later down the line. After all, the human mind is merely an extension of the body, and does your body persist in its growth past your adolescence? It is done, your race has ended, even though you may have never even known it had started. That is not strange, though, because as critical as said experiences are—they are not often sought. That is, it is Nature's way of weeding out the weak, incompetent and feeble from the world. You either experience that which makes you human—or you do not. Whichever it is, it was chosen from the moment you were conceived.

Even if you were to miraculously find your pursuits fruitful tomorrow, what would it matter? The period of your development has long passed you by, and you will find yourself at the bottom of society. You will be used, cheated, conned, swindled, and ultimately discarded once you've been wrung dry. There are experiences and periods that you will never get back no matter how much you 'improve.' Time is an accomplice to Fate's artifices, after all.

You are, at best, an imitation of a human being. You may experience what it means to be conscious, and emotions such as fear, sorrow, spite, and anger—but you will never sincerely be a human. That title is reserved for that which Nature and Fate favored, of which, you and I were not among. You should at minimum take solace in the fact that it was not your fault.
TRVTH BIG BANG

this deserves to be a thread of its own tbh
 
Dating coach :feelskek: :feelskek:. Just be good looking, there, I just saved you so much time that you would've wasted talking to that jester.
 
Hello,
I communicate on Discord with a person—let’s call him a dating coach, although he doesn’t call himself that. I haven’t given him any money or anything for free—we simply communicate. He says that women want good emotions and that I know how to communicate. He has given me an example of a short man who has a girlfriend and is 1.45 m tall, while I am 1.60 m. He also said that we could go out to a bar for free and that he could introduce me to people with the same problems as mine, as well as let me communicate with women who are his friends so they can give feedback on my communication.
Here are some other things he says about incels, blackpill, and similar topics:
The men who made those images are just as unsuccessful with women as you are, and they talk this nonsense to make themselves feel better, to avoid blaming themselves for their own laziness, and to avoid taking responsibility to work on themselves.
You keep saying the same things over and over again, and once again I’m telling you that you need to stop blindly believing online nonsense, because you are becoming a victim of it.
It’s not a coincidence that there is a saying: “Don’t listen to people who don’t have the success you want to have.”
All of these stupid theories written above have nothing to do with reality and are complete lies.
My real experience—not only from my own life, but also from communicating in person with several thousand women and several thousand men—has shown me that reality is different.
Only a small percentage of women put physical appearance in first place. As the girl told you as well—first comes communication, second your qualities, third your social status, fourth your body, and only in fifth place your looks and height.
I’ve already told you several times that you shouldn’t blindly believe everything written on the internet.
These things are written by people who have no practical experience and are trying to justify their lack of results.
They have nothing to do with practical reality and rely on the fact that you don’t have the experience to recognize that they are lies.
You are turning into a naive sheep by believing them blindly.
For women, it’s important to feel understood, and if that’s missing, good looks won’t save you.
Women want a charismatic man, and that has nothing to do with physical appearance.
Looks cannot create trust.
Beauty does not compensate for a lack of emotional intelligence.
Good communication has no visual measurements.
A boring person remains boring, no matter how they look. Being boring to a woman is the biggest sin.
Pleasant communication requires attention. If you don’t know how to give proper attention to a woman, she will leave, regardless of your looks.
Women respond to a sense of safety, not to height.
Looks cannot listen. Active listening is a very important skill when communicating with women.
Connection happens on an emotional level, not a visual one. If she doesn’t feel connected to you, your appearance won’t help you.
People seek authenticity, not aesthetics. If she senses that you are fake, she will leave.
The good feeling after a conversation has nothing to do with appearance. If during the conversation you made her feel terrible, that’s what she will remember.
Looks can attract attention, but they don’t keep interest. You need to build yourself into an interesting man.
Confidence does not depend on kilograms or centimeters. Women look for confident men.
Social skills are not visible in the mirror. Communication with people is built. If you’re a silent handsome guy who doesn’t talk to anyone, you’ll still be ignored.
Pleasant company is a function of your inner state. Being good-looking doesn’t make you pleasant to be around.
No one leaves a conversation thinking, “Good thing he was handsome,” but rather, “Good thing I felt good.”
The way you react is more important than how you look. If you react poorly, you’ll make people feel awful in your presence.
Lack of social ease is felt immediately, regardless of appearance. If you’re awkward and cringey, no one will want to communicate with you.
Well, it’s a complex you have to overcome.
You keep drilling the idea into your head that being short is a big problem. That makes you feel bad. That, in turn, leads to negative thoughts, which make you withdraw.
When you withdraw, even if you have opportunities in front of you, you won’t take advantage of them. When you don’t act, you won’t get results. When you don’t get results, your brain starts looking for a reason and closes the loop by blaming your height.
Women don’t ignore you because of your height. You self-sabotage with women because you make your height a problem.
I have never seen a man who has many friends and no success with women.
And certainly, men who are not successful with women either have no male friends at all, or the few male friends they have are just as much losers as they are.
You have no evidence, because you stay at home, have no experience, make no effort to gain your own experience, and listen to the opinions of strangers on the internet.
The problem with lack of experience is that when you hear someone else’s belief, you don’t have personal experience to compare it against.
That’s why when you hear a negative opinion online that resonates with your fears and negative thoughts, you immediately take it at face value.
When you don’t have your own experience, you can’t resist the belief and you accept it as truth.
You don’t even try to analyze beliefs critically.
You haven’t thought about whether these online opinions are objective or subjective.
Dating is the same. You’ve buried yourself in negative opinions from losers who have no real life experience and spread lies just to feel better about their lack of results.
That’s why I told you I’ve never seen a single man who followed the action plan I gave you above and then had no results.
But I have seen thousands of men who don’t put in effort, or put in very mediocre, minimal effort, get no results, and then invent excuses about how hard and unfair it is.
Why do you accept other people’s opinions as objective truth? Just because some girls say they don’t want short men, does that mean it applies to all women? You’ve repeatedly encountered women who told you they have or have had men shorter than them.
The real question isn’t whether women want a tall man. Yes, there are women like that—but there are also women who don’t care at all. The question is how to find the women who don’t care about height.
There are women who will never like a man without a beard. Since I can’t grow a beard, I have no chance with those women, no matter how charismatic I am. My goal is to have attractive charisma for women who don’t care that I don’t have a beard.
There are women who want men who are 180 cm tall, and I don’t qualify. My goal is to find the ones who don’t care that I’m under 180.
There are women who want millionaires and would never date me. My goal is to find and be charismatic for women who don’t care that I’m not a millionaire.
There are women who only like muscular men. My goal is to communicate with women who don’t care what kind of body I have.
For every female criterion you hear online, in real life you will find women who don’t care about that criterion, as well as women who would make an exception.
I’ll give you an example with my ex-girlfriend. Before me, all of her boyfriends were bodybuilding competitors or MMA fighters. I’m the first man in her life who has absolutely no built physique.
Why did she make an exception for me, despite the belly and lack of muscles? Because she changed as a person, developed, and no longer places that kind of importance on muscles. She had been too disappointed by that type of men and started valuing values and intellect more than physical appearance.
Така че трябва да спрете да се фокусирате върху това, което жените казват онлайн, защото винаги ще има жени с коренно различни критерии.

Basically he says I don't know how to communicate with women and I don't communicate with them in general and he says to stop reading about incels, blackpill and generally about studies and the like. He says to work out, talk to women live to give pleasant emotions and such. He also sent these pictures.


Second, the AI analyst told you the same.
Third, you are still young and the male face matures in attractiveness until your 30th year.
Fourth, the amount of body fat plays a big role in how attractive your face is. When you have about 15% subcutaneous fat, your face is smoothed out and you become even more attractive.
Fifth, it is full of ugly men who date beautiful women, because women care more about how you make them feel. Even if you are super handsome, if you have a negative mindset, grumbling, without self-confidence, you are constantly afraid, this automatically makes you unattractive to women.
No matter how much you read on the internet, practice shows that your actions and your mindset are the most determining thing whether you will be successful with women.
I proved it to myself.
Mitko proved it to himself.
Krasi, whose chat I showed you above, proved it to herself.
What more do you want?
What are you looking for by reading these things and posting them here?
What do you want from us and from life?
Do you really want to find a girlfriend and have women want to go out with you, or do you want to stay home and feel sorry f
r yourself

The 8.5 rating is precisely for your genetics. And you are wasting your good genetics by not maintaining them and not realizing their potential.

I was going to send pictures of the people you showed me from the Internet where they've lost weight and look better, but I don't know how to upload them, it won't let me post them from my phone. I'm about 50-60kg, I'm not fat, but I don't have a flat stomach and I probably have subcutaneous fat to lose.

So, tell me what you think and give counter arguments if you want. I'll write them to him to see what he says. Honestly, I don't really trust him, but I know. Hopefully he's right and we can all find wives. Thank you if you've read all this. By the way, I'm 22.
What the fucking bluepill nonsense this is? Okay, lets just assume that there is a foid who dont care about anything. Then her choice is infinite. She can have no demands, but she will definitely choose someone better than you, me and many other incels. And she will choose someone whos most good looking. Well, but at least this nigger tried to say something even though its fricking delulu.
 
No dating coach for your face, faggot
 

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