Experiment Should sexhaver escortcels be allowed on this forum?

[PersonaPimp]

What is the general consensus about escortcels here?

On one hand, they only got sex by paying money. However, we can't ignore the fact that they are indeed sexhavers, and not to mention the fact that they were low inhib enough and rich enough to actually afford an escort. Plus I believe it is extremely cucked to pay money to a foid just for her to spread her legs to you. Personally, I will not pay for something that I am owed.

For the KHHV trucels, are you able to relate to them?

 

[Fantasea]

I voted no but I doubt mods would ever gas all the escortcels out of this forum. I think realistically anything escortmaxxing related shouldn't be brought up anywhere but the sewers.

 

[PersonaPimp]

I voted no but I doubt mods would ever gas all the escortcels out of this forum. I think realistically anything escortmaxxing related shouldn't be brought up anywhere but the sewers.

Well, let's see what the results say after a day or two.

@LeFrenchCel seems to suggest that they were allowed because of a poll.

 

[Fantasea]

Well, let's see what the results say after a day or two.

@LeFrenchCel seems to suggest that they were allowed because of a poll.

At least one of the mods is an open escortcel and this has never been an impartial forum so keep ur expectations in the gutter.

 

[NEB.feelsdevil]

Escortcels should be allowed because they are truecels.

Having to pay escort not to DIE VIRGIN is truecel trait.

 

[NEB.feelsdevil]

ESCORTS ARE THE ONLY WAY FOR UGLY SUBHUMAN MEN NOT TO DIE VIRGIN

 

[TooSomething]

What is the general consensus about escortcels here?

On one hand, they only got sex by paying money. However, we can't ignore the fact that they are indeed sexhavers, and not to mention the fact that they were low inhib enough and rich enough to actually afford an escort. Plus I believe it is extremely cucked to pay money to a foid just for her to spread her legs to you. Personally, I will not pay for something that I am owed.

For the KHHV trucels, are you able to relate to them?

I don't see how being "rich" is a bad thing now.
To get some prostitute you don't have to be rich.

I had to save up money for that shit, man.

Was it wrong to do because it's cucked? Yes.

I have done it because I just didn't want to die as a virgin. Nowadays though, I have to say that I should not have done this.
For one, it just further inflates foids' egos.
Then there is the fact that it wasn't even raw sex, which still bothers me to this day.

Ultimately it wasn't honorable, but what's done is done.
Besides I haven't been to one in ages and I don't plan on going either.

I too don't want to pay for something which I am owed.

 

[lifeisfucked215]

Its truly the only way to get near pussy if you're really incel. Kind of just your fate sadly. If they are bragging about it here then different story and should receive warnings/band

 

[lifeisfucked215]

ESCORTS ARE THE ONLY WAY FOR UGLY SUBHUMAN MEN NOT TO DIE VIRGIN

 

[LeFrenchCel]

Well, let's see what the results say after a day or two.

@LeFrenchCel seems to suggest that they were allowed because of a poll.

It's been a while though iirc so the community's opinion might have changed about that subject

But it's the kind of rule that sounds good on paper but in reality is unapplicable.
Even if, let's say, one day we agree that escortcels should be banned. How do you even implement such rule?

Should we look at the post history of every user and ban all escortcels?
Should we keep the existing escortcels in and only ban newcomers?

 

[Rapemaxxer]

At least one of the mods is an open escortcel and this has never been an impartial forum so keep ur expectations in the gutter.

which mod?

 

[Fantasea]

which mod?

@PPEcel

 

[Rapistcel]

What is the general consensus about escortcels here?

On one hand, they only got sex by paying money. However, we can't ignore the fact that they are indeed sexhavers, and not to mention the fact that they were low inhib enough and rich enough to actually afford an escort. Plus I believe it is extremely cucked to pay money to a foid just for her to spread her legs to you. Personally, I will not pay for something that I am owed.

For the KHHV trucels, are you able to relate to them?

Yes, if sex is paid you are still an incel.

 

[Rapistcel]

It's been a while though iirc so the community's opinion might have changed about that subject

But it's the kind of rule that sounds good on paper but in reality is unapplicable.
Even if, let's say, one day we agree that escortcels should be banned. How do you even implement such rule?

Should we look at the post history of every user and ban all escortcels?
Should we keep the existing escortcels in and only ban newcomers?

I don't believe escortcels should get banned, they are still incels. I strongly oppose to banning them.

 

[ToBurble&Pine]

Ban any escortcel that shares his experience
Why is a PiV experience allowed in a forum for non-sexhavers

 

[ToBurble&Pine]

This poll is like asking a jew if he should leave Israel
of course he going to vote NO

 

[PersonaPimp]

@PPEcel

Well it's completely over then, no matter what the poll says. That guy is some richfag that funds the site. This rule will never be implemented then.

 

[Mistake]

Fakecel if you fuck escorts. I remember seeing some people here say that they got rejected by escorts.

 

[ArabAndFramecel]

Yes

 

[Sans]

I'm not an escortcel. I don't have that kind of money and even if I did, I'd rather die a virgin than pay for something chad gets for free.

That said, everyone has their own opinions about escortmaxxing in general, and I don't believe that escortcels should be banned. Sure, they may have stuck their willy into a pink taco, but it's not like the woman actually liked it or wanted it.

 

[City Incel]

Imo yes, escort sex is faker than fake

 

[Grodd]

Yeah

 

[Esoteric7]

However, we can't ignore the fact that they are indeed sexhavers

Paying for it is a symptom of inceldom

and not to mention the fact that they were low inhib enough

Not this again. you'd have to be a severally autistic abused dog to be scared of this, otherwise you lack the testosterone of meeting a whore?

and rich enough to actually afford an escort

not when I used to do it. I paid in the range of £60 - £80 for half hour sessions with white htbs and Staceys

Plus I believe it is extremely cucked to pay money to a foid just for her to spread her legs to you

it is a shame/pathetic to do this because that's what inceldom does to you

 

[PPEcel]

If escortcels are considered fakecels because they have had sex---does that mean that someone who doesn't pay for sex is a volcel because they could have paid for sex but chose not to?

 

[Aku no Hana]

What is the general consensus about escortcels here?

On one hand, they only got sex by paying money. However, we can't ignore the fact that they are indeed sexhavers, and not to mention the fact that they were low inhib enough and rich enough to actually afford an escort. Plus I believe it is extremely cucked to pay money to a foid just for her to spread her legs to you. Personally, I will not pay for something that I am owed.

For the KHHV trucels, are you able to relate to them?

There's been multiple polls in the past where the majority (over 50% of users...as is the case with this poll already) have voted to allow them, provided they exclusively have had sex relatively recently (one can be an incel without being a virgin if due to this or having ordinary sex but falling into inceldom) with a prostitute/"escort," and not anything else. Therefore, they are allowed.

As a 29 year old KHHV, my stance on the matter is that they should be allowed. Because the entire point of being incel is that you can't get a woman to voluntarily enter a committed long-term relationship with you. If you are just having sex just because you have to pay one money, that does not count as not being an incel anymore. As the Introduction page says.

Truecel trait: even prostitutes won't go near you.

In all seriousness, any guy, no matter how dejected and ugly, can technically "have sex" if they pay a prostitute to do it. It's precisely for this reason it should be allowed. Saying it shouldn't would just be overly technical, like on the basis: "well you did have sex though." Completely dumb.

Also, I absolutely do think they should be able to talk about their experiences with escorts/prostitutes here. The logic that disagrees says incels don't want to read about people having experiences they haven't had because that's depressing. However, as long as the post was clear they could just avoid such posts and it may be edifying for those who are not bothered by it.

Also, the rules of the site thankfully say the same:

 

[The Notorious SLAV]

Yes. The sex they got was literally just paid service that means nothing. The only way escortcelling can actually lead someone to ascend is if the prostitute becomes his actual girlfriend, which I'm not sure many guys here would even want.

 

[antisocialcel]

Today sexhavers allowed, tomorrow femcels. Take a note.

This just prove the word incel doesn't mean nothing, is a meme word, involuntary celibate who has sex every week with a different woman, what a joke.

 

[Puppeter]

its not really ascension just paying a foid to fuck

 

[TheAbsoluteMaximum]

What does the word incel actually mean if we’re allowing people who aren’t celibate to join the involuntarily celibate forum?

Is incel just a term now for men who can’t get into a committed relationship?

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

it's allowed and it should be. just don't really mention it out of respect for moneycels

it's not like fucking a spent, stinky, ugly, flabby, old cunt that hates you with a rubber on is anywhere near true ascension (not that I've tried)

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

What does the word incel actually mean if we’re allowing people who aren’t celibate to join the involuntarily celibate forum?

Is incel just a term now for men who can’t get into a committed relationship?

you can't be involuntarily unfuckable by prostitutes. they're literally prostitutes

just don't brag about it

 

[TheAbsoluteMaximum]

you can't be involuntarily unfuckable by prostitutes. they're literally prostitutes

just don't brag about it

You do know that escorts can reject customers, right? So the fact that the escort is not rejecting a customer means that they’re ok with having sex with them

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

Today sexhavers allowed, tomorrow femcels. Take a note.

This just prove the word incel doesn't mean nothing, is a meme word, involuntary celibate who has sex every week with a different woman, what a joke.

I will rape you greycel. who do you think you are commenting on fucking site policy with a 1 month old account? slap your bitch ass sissy balls immediately

You do know that escorts can reject customers, right? So the fact that the escort is not rejecting a customer means that they’re ok with having sex with them

that barely ever happens

 

[DarkStar]

I think they should be allowed, but ofc if it gets to a point where they're bragging, trolling, or excessively posting yes they should be warned for it.

Ideally, I think we should make an optional sub-forum for escortcels or those interested in it to talk about it.

It's been a while though iirc so the community's opinion might have changed about that subject

But it's the kind of rule that sounds good on paper but in reality is unapplicable.
Even if, let's say, one day we agree that escortcels should be banned. How do you even implement such rule?

Should we look at the post history of every user and ban all escortcels?
Should we keep the existing escortcels in and only ban newcomers?

I imagine they'd grandfather in those who did it and just tell them not to talk on it and ban all newfags who joined and mentioned it

But I think my above suggestion is the most ideal

Not this again. you'd have to be a severally autistic abused dog to be scared of this, otherwise you lack the testosterone of meeting a whore?

Some might be worried about getting scammed or even attacked which ofc ties into the legality

In the US if you try to hire a hooker, you could get beaten by the pimp, but you can't report it since you would face charges as well

not when I used to do it. I paid in the range of £60 - £80 for half hour sessions with white htbs and Staceys

It varies by country, some prices i've seen in the US are like 200$ for some low-end fat slutina

it is a shame/pathetic to do this because that's what inceldom does to you

There's been multiple polls in the past where the majority (over 50% of users...as is the case with this poll already) have voted to allow them, provided they exclusively have had sex relatively recently (one can be an incel without being a virgin if due to this or having ordinary sex but falling into inceldom) with a prostitute/"escort," and not anything else. Therefore, they are allowed.

As a 29 year old KHHV, my stance on the matter is that they should be allowed. Because the entire point of being incel is that you can't get a woman to voluntarily enter a committed long-term relationship with you. If you are just having sex just because you have to pay one money, that does not count as not being an incel anymore. As the Introduction page says.

Truecel trait: even prostitutes won't go near you.

In all seriousness, any guy, no matter how dejected and ugly, can technically "have sex" if they pay a prostitute to do it. It's precisely for this reason it should be allowed. Saying it shouldn't would just be overly technical, like on the basis: "well you did have sex though." Completely dumb.

Also, I absolutely do think they should be able to talk about their experiences with escorts/prostitutes here. The logic that disagrees says incels don't want to read about people having experiences they haven't had because that's depressing. However, as long as the post was clear they could just avoid such posts and it may be edifying for those who are not bothered by it.

Also, the rules of the site thankfully say the same:

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This is why I think an optional subforum for discussing it would be best

Escortcels are incels ofc, but some for various reasons can't access it so to avoid issues i think this is the best course

 

[TheAbsoluteMaximum]

that barely ever happens

My point is that is can happen, and has. At the end of the day being an escort is considered a “service”, and like any other service provider they are allowed to reject you based off of whatever criteria they deem fit.

That’s besides the real point, however, my main point is — how is incel defined on this forum?

Is it really just about relationships and not sex?

 

[Aku no Hana]

Escortcels are incels ofc, but some for various reasons can't access it

Here are the reasons incels who do not see prostitutes do not do so:

1. They simply don't want to.
2. They don't have the money.
3. They live somewhere where it's hard or not possible to find escorts/prostitutes, or can't access them due to not having a car. (this ties back to number 2.)

I am the first two. I don't have the money, and even if I did, I wouldn't want to.

I have absolutely zero interest in this, and no interests in hook-ups/one night stands, for the same reasons, of course. I am only interested in a serious, committed, long-term, monogamous relationship.

Not to mention, sex with a prostitute is much worse than sex with a significant other. To begin with, you have to use a condom. (unless you're insane and want to see how many STDs you can get.) Secondly, one of the best parts about sex is the intimacy and the emotional component. Needless to say, that's not the case with a prostitute like it is with a partner. Also, it's for a set limited time. This ties into the first reason, of course.

A fourth reason would be the incel is disabled, but at that point said disability is part of the reason they are incel in the first place.

 

[67InchesSubhuman]

anti-escortcels are giga cucks

stop being a coward and go fuck a whore

my last cope is to make money and pay prostitutes for sex

 

[DarkStar]

Here are the reasons incels who do not see prostitutes do not do so:

1. They simply don't want to.

It's fair enough to be against it & not want to partake

1. They don't have the money.

This is correct, it makes sense since a lot here are NEETs due to various factors & incels in general don't do well

1. They live somewhere where it's hard or not possible to find escorts/prostitutes.

Due to a mix of legality or just living in maybe some small town in a flyover state. for the legality part again, ties into being non-NT

I am the first two. I neither have the money, and even if I did, I wouldn't want to. I have absolutely zero interest in this, and no interests in hook-ups/one night stands, for the same reasons, of course. I am only interested in a serious, committed, long-term, monogamous relationship.

That's fair i'd say

 

[|R12|]

Escortcels should be allowed because they are truecels.

Having to pay escort not to DIE VIRGIN is truecel trait.

You are the average escortmaxxer. You don't know how to defend being such an idiot without talking bullshit.

ESCORTS ARE THE ONLY WAY FOR UGLY SUBHUMAN MEN NOT TO DIE VIRGIN

Dying a virgin is better than dying as a fake sex-haver.

Its truly the only way to get near pussy if you're really incel. Kind of just your fate sadly. If they are bragging about it here then different story and should receive warnings/band

If there are idiots here who just want sex, let them pay for a premium toilet, but then they will have to face the consequences of losing their access here. While we don't even get touched on the shoulder, they get all kinds of sexual pleasures just for being escortards.

Should we look at the post history of every user and ban all escortcels?
Should we keep the existing escortcels in and only ban newcomers?

It's easy. We'll make a rule not to promote escortmaxx or defend them and then we'll just have to wait. Is anyone talking about making escortmaxx or saying anything positive about it? banned.

I'm not an escortcel. I don't have that kind of money and even if I did, I'd rather die a virgin than pay for something chad gets for free.

That said, everyone has their own opinions about escortmaxxing in general, and I don't believe that escortcels should be banned. Sure, they may have stuck their willy into a pink taco, but it's not like the woman actually liked it or wanted it.

Good opinion. Yet they can't be incels because the word incel contains “celibate”, having sex is not part of celibacy.

A few years ago, in this forum a rule was added to ban sex-havers blackpillers. They should do the same with them or just remove this rule, itself since a blackpiller sex-haver and an escortmaxxer is almost the same thing.

If escortcels are considered fakecels because they have had sex---does that mean that someone who doesn't pay for sex is a volcel because they could have paid for sex but chose not to?

No. We are incels who are looking for a girlfriend but can't, we are not just looking for sex.

Yes. The sex they got was literally just paid service that means nothing. The only way escortcelling can actually lead someone to ascend is if the prostitute becomes his actual girlfriend, which I'm not sure many guys here would even want.

Then betabuxxers should be able to be here, since the sex they got doesn't mean anything either.

Today sexhavers allowed, tomorrow femcels. Take a note.

This just prove the word incel doesn't mean nothing, is a meme word, involuntary celibate who has sex every week with a different woman, what a joke.

Someday I will get all escortmaxxers banned. Just wait for it.

Feel free to reply to me if you have the time to continue this debate.​

 

[NEB.feelsdevil]

You are the average escortmaxxer. You don't know how to defend being such an idiot without talking bullshit.


Dying a virgin is better than dying as a fake sex-haver.


If there are idiots here who just want sex, let them pay for a premium toilet, but then they will have to face the consequences of losing their access here. While we don't even get touched on the shoulder, they get all kinds of sexual pleasures just for being escortards.


It's easy. We'll make a rule not to promote escortmaxx or defend them and then we'll just have to wait. Is anyone talking about making escortmaxx or saying anything positive about it? banned.


Good opinion. Yet they can't be incels because the word incel contains “celibate”, having sex is not part of celibacy.

A few years ago, in this forum a rule was added to ban sex-havers blackpillers. They should do the same with them or just remove this rule, itself since a blackpiller sex-haver and an escortmaxxer is almost the same thing.


No. We are incels who are looking for a girlfriend but can't, we are not just looking for sex.


Then betabuxxers should be able to be here, since the sex they got doesn't mean anything either.

Someday I will get all escortmaxxers banned. Just wait for it.

Feel free to reply to me if you have the time to continue this debate.​

Ok, then die virgin without ever touching women

No one will force you to CREAMPIE escort pussy! Escort pussy belongs to incels!

 

[|R12|]

Ok, then die virgin without ever touching women

This is good. Although it's a waste that you probably won't tell this to other incels but recommend escortmaxx first.

No one will force you to CREAMPIE escort pussy! Escort pussy belongs to incels!

Their pussy belongs to anyone with money and any Chad they can get, once they take off their escort clothes.

 

[shitwolf]

yeah, i don't envy them at all

 

[fukurou]

they already had a truecels(twice) site and no one used it.

 

[Dovah8814]

What is the general consensus about escortcels here?

I believe it is extremely cucked to pay money to a foid just for her to spread her legs to you

I can see where you’re coming from but I disagree a since a cuck just gives women money and gets nothing in return plus the escort has to sleep with a sub5 which is basically a punishment I will escortmaxx one day

 

[LeFrenchCel]

It's easy. We'll make a rule not to promote escortmaxx or defend them and then we'll just have to wait. Is anyone talking about making escortmaxx or saying anything positive about it? banned.

The current "you're allowed, but don't brag about it" rule is a good compromise imo

 

[The Notorious SLAV]

No. We are incels who are looking for a girlfriend but can't, we are not just looking for sex.

Those two things aren't really exclusive though. I'm an incel because I can't get a girlfriend who would love and be attracted to me, for me, but I'll probably be escortcelling in the near future, because I likewise want to know what sex is like, just how overrated it really is (since most people who do so say that it is, but it still makes you feel better after having it) and maybe even get some experience for when I manage to find a girlfriend.

Then betabuxxers should be able to be here, since the sex they got doesn't mean anything either.

This forum has never really had a serious discussion on betabuxxers and where they stand, and honestly I'd welcome it. Unlike escortmaxxers who just pay for a service prostitutes offer as a way to make a living, betabuxxers are in long-term relationships with more or less everything that comes with it, so I'd love to see the arguments people here would make as to them actually still being incels or not.

 

[|R12|]

The current "you're allowed, but don't brag about it" rule is a good compromise imo

True, but that is not the problem. The problem is that escortmaxxers call themselves incels or even truecels, because according to them, this bullshit is a “truecel trait”.

I feel that people like them are fucking around and making the definition of “incel” lose its meaning.

Escortmaxxing will not ascend anyone, but it does take away the rank of incel, truecel, khhv or any lack of female contact you may have had before. I want this to be a general rule.

Those two things aren't really exclusive though. I'm an incel because I can't get a girlfriend who would love and be attracted to me, for me, but I'll probably be escortcelling in the near future, because I likewise want to know what sex is like, just how overrated it really is (since most people who do so say that it is, but it still makes you feel better after having it) and maybe even get some experience for when I manage to find a girlfriend.

I understand that. But you shouldn't get fake sex because after all, you'll never experience the real one. Just as you missed out on your first love in your youth, you will also miss out on losing your virginity to a real woman instead of a premium toilet.

This forum has never really had a serious discussion on betabuxxers and where they stand, and honestly I'd welcome it. Unlike escortmaxxers who just pay for a service prostitutes offer as a way to make a living, betabuxxers are in long-term relationships with more or less everything that comes with it, so I'd love to see the arguments people here would make as to them actually still being incels or not.

Betabuxxers are normies, not incels. But the problem is that if you were to include escortmaxxers as incels, then you must do the same with betas because the “it's not real sex because she doesn't want you” excuse is the same.

 

[LeFrenchCel]

True, but that is not the problem. The problem is that escortmaxxers call themselves incels or even truecels, because according to them, this bullshit is a “truecel trait”.

I feel that people like them are fucking around and making the definition of “incel” lose its meaning.

Escortmaxxing will not ascend anyone, but it does take away the rank of incel, truecel, khhv or any lack of female contact you may have had before. I want this to be a general rule.

I agree with that, escortcels can't really consider themselves as incels

But escortcels have been allowed for basically the entire existence of the whole forum, and banning all escortcels from this place will be basically impossible since i think they are quite a lot

Plus, as mentioned, the general idea within the userbase would be to keep them in instead of banning them

 

[|R12|]

I agree with that, escortcels can't really consider themselves as incels

But escortcels have been allowed for basically the entire existence of the whole forum, and banning all escortcels from this place will be basically impossible since i think they are quite a lot

Plus, as mentioned, the general idea within the userbase would be to keep them in instead of banning them

Thanks for the good explanation. Surely implementing any new rules about escortmaxxers will be more difficult than it seems. But if members here stop promoting escortmaxx then that would be enough, no need to ban escortmaxxers.

 

[Skelly]

who is more incel?
A late bloomer fresh outta high school with a healthy friendgroup and supportive family on his way to college
OR
A mentally ill sub5 32 year old indian who hasn't left his room in weeks BUT fucked an escort 3 years ago