Discussion Response to IT "Incels, jealousy, insecurity, and FOMO"

[Takeyami1987]

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/1njos53/incels_jealousy_insecurity_and_fomo/

I wanted to respond to the usual Cucktears post that thinks they've decoded incels and has us psychoanlyzed. In this case this person thinks they understand the motivation behind incel memes.

Passport bro revenge: This usually takes the form of a meme. An incel finds a wife in another country. Also in the image, there's always a third woman (presumably from his home country) who's miserable at the sight of the couple. It's implied the unhappy woman turned down his romantic advances in the past. The new bride has no ambitions beyond cooking for him and making babies, and has no objection to being used as a pawn to exact revenge on somebody else he's obviously not really over. In fact, the smiling or laughing new bride enjoys this role

Yes geomaxxing is a genuine path for many incels and women are aware and dislike this. Feminist groups want to place restrictions on male solo travel, while allowing free female solo travel. Sweden even blocked mostly female ukrainian immigrants from coming because they knew this would lower the SMV of native women.

Robot girlfriend revenge: Also in meme form, usually following the same format as passport bro revenge with a tearful real human woman left alone (one significant exception was a meme of Elon Musk dancing with robots). The technological and economic barriers to this becoming reality aren't examined. Nor are the social implications: imagine the awkwardness of taking a robot as his plus-one to a Thanksgiving dinner.

Common cope I see from foids about this. Technological and economic barriers are nearly no longer an obstacle to this and it is mainly a matter of improving the size and lifespan of existing batteries. Some chinese company is likely going to have the first highly realistic robot girl model on the market within the decade for a reasonable price. We also don't particularly care about family functions.

AI girlfriend revenge: Usually in text, often supplemented with an AI-generated image of his make-believe girlfriend. Real world women are supposedly jealous of the guy's relationship with a large language model. Of course, if women really wanted to they could create their own ChatGPT boyfriends, but apparently robots and AI are Totally Masculine Things that women wouldn't possibly understand?

We dont particularly care about making real life foids jealous or if foids make AI boyfriends. Of course Ai girlfriends and eventually robots will fill the roll of a GF way easier than a boy version could fill the roll of a boyfriend. Marriage is still the number way for women to move up in social class and I don't mean to get too much into mgtow cope, but women have far more to lose from men walking away than the reverse.

Men increase in value; women decrease in value: nearly always in text, proposes that women will "hit the wall" at an age anywhere from 23 to 30, at which point they're presumed to be lonely and moping in the company of their cats, while the guy goes out with a younger woman. Often has disturbing overtones, such as implying or outright claiming that the ideal age range for girls to marry is 13 - 17. Why an adolescent would want the guy isn't examined: he wants her, and similar to the overseas bride and the robot she isn't regarded as having much inner life beyond her usefulness for sex and for evoking jealousy

no incel claims this. once again IT loves to take redpill or normie talking points and claim they're blackpill/incel points. "The wall" is mostly redpiller cope, we are well aware that even older woman can get a relationship virtually whenever they want. And yes marrying the nearest young person close to your age was the norm for most of human history.

The presumption in all of these themes is that being single is the worst thing that could happen: the message to women is you have the upper hand now, but the tables will turn.

An implicit self-own these themes don't explore is What if interacting with with the guy is a net negative?

singledom is financially more taxxing for women than it is for men because women are overspenders and believe they are entitled to mens money.

he most common reactions women express to seeing these themes are:

• Thank goodness. So you'll leave us alone?
• Concern for the exploited women in these scenarios, particularly if they wouldn't be women but underage girls.
• Concern for what the interaction with artificial intelligence will do to the guy's mentality. Large language models are designed to confirm the user's priors: it might leave him even more dysfunctional in real world interactions than he already was.
• Mockery at the impracticality, with some of these scenarios.

All bluffing, most women would die without male attention

With that as their point of reference, instead of taking women's feedback seriously they try to motivate women to date them by trying to press those same buttons of jealousy, insecurity, and FOMO.

When that doesn't work, it just doesn't compute. Instead of accepting, Hey, playing on insecurity is a real turn-off in the dating world to rational people, they go back and try to tinker a different insecurity to leverage.

Any guy that is geomaxxing, using AI girlfriends or is waiting for robot girls is far past the point of caring about getting dates from foids around them and has completely taken the whitepill and is not trying to get anything from foids. We knew it was over a long time ago.

 

[CrimsonPine47]

if foids really wanted to they could create their own ChatGPT boyfriends

And yet they won't, and they never will. Even when they create actual physical AI boyfriends, no foid would get them because of their hypergamy.

A man would marry a foid that works at a convenience store just for being nice to him. He would not care about their social or financial status, which is why AI girlfriends work more for men than AI boyfriends work for foids.

An AI boyfriend can be customized to a foid's ideal "six feet, six inch dick," and can pander to a foid's emotional needs, but it would never be enough because the AI boyfriend would never get a six figure salary, let alone a salary at all. The AI boyfriend wouldn't come with a social status desirable for the foid. There would be no hypergamy for the foid to partake in to move up the social class. The only way a foid could possibly make a salary with your AI boyfriend would be to use their hardware to mine crypto or something (which foids are too retarded to do).

AI girlfriends work WAY better with men than AI boyfriends do with foids. As corpos start to shit out physical AI girlfriends/boyfriends, we will see this more clearly. Even if AI boyfriends with foids did work as well as AI girlfriends with men, the only men that would threatened by AI boyfriends would be the top 20% of men, whereas the 80% wouldn't care because all the foids don't want the 80% anyway. Unfortunately for the foids, they live in the reality where AI girlfriends do threaten them and have the potential to threaten them even more once they figure out the whole "artifical womb" technology.

Foids can cope by saying "yay! men will finally leave us alone!"

Yeah, we'll finally leave you alone to die.

 

[ManOfVengeance]

DNR the cucktears post as they cannot do anything outside of making conjecture, don't expect a response from them by the way they're not very intelligent as u can see from the post you responded to

 

[Takeyami1987]

And yet they won't, and they never will. Even when they create actual physical AI boyfriends, no foid would get them because of their hypergamy.

A man would marry a foid that works at a convenience store just for being nice to him. He would not care about their social or financial status, which is why AI girlfriends work more for men than AI boyfriends work for foids.

An AI boyfriend can be customized to a foid's ideal "six feet, six inch dick," and can pander to a foid's emotional needs, but it would never be enough because the AI boyfriend would never get a six figure salary, let alone a salary at all. The AI boyfriend wouldn't come with a social status desirable for the foid. There would be no hypergamy for the foid to partake in to move up the social class. The only way a foid could possibly make a salary with your AI boyfriend would be to use their hardware to mine crypto or something (which foids are too retarded to do).

AI girlfriends work WAY better with men than AI boyfriends do with foids. As corpos start to shit out physical AI girlfriends/boyfriends, we will see this more clearly. Even if AI boyfriends with foids did work as well as AI girlfriends with men, the only men that would threatened by AI boyfriends would be the top 20% of men, whereas the 80% wouldn't care because all the foids don't want the 80% anyway. Unfortunately for the foids, they live in the reality where AI girlfriends do threaten them and have the potential to threaten them even more once they figure out the whole "artifical womb" technology.

Foids can cope by saying "yay! men will finally leave us alone!"

Yeah, we'll finally leave you alone to die.

The best part to me about robot waifus is that the first will almost certainly come from China and China is thankfully not a democracy so Chinese foids can’t ban it on behalf of western foids and the CCP basically quietly supports robot girlfriends. I predict when they release, feminists will partner with China hawk conservatives but ultimately the demand will be too high to stop

 

[lnceI]

DNR

 

[H8mychudlife]

"Nor are the social implications: imagine the awkwardness of taking a robot as his plus-one to a Thanksgiving dinner."

In the future the amount of men experiencing romantic problems will skyrocket to even greater heights. I expect that having a robot girlfriend will be normalised very quickly just as being a virgin that never dated will also be normalised.

You can thank women for this, (and to some extent jews) for creating this futuristic dystopian hellscape. And of course they will blame this on men aswell.

Once the attention monopoly foids have on men is liquidated by AI they will start nagging endlessly about their precious drug, attention, being wiped away from them.

The future is bleak

 

[CrimsonPine47]

The best part to me about robot waifus is that the first will almost certainly come from China and China is thankfully not a democracy so Chinese foids can’t ban it on behalf of western foids and the CCP basically quietly supports robot girlfriends. I predict when they release, feminists will partner with China hawk conservatives but ultimately the demand will be too high to stop

The production of AI girlfriends are inevitable. Sure it might take a long ass time but no activist or political figure will stop it from being produced.

The problem would be exporting it to places like the US. The foid activists would try make it hard or ban the AI girlfriends from being exported to the US. If they succeed, at best they're placed under heavy tariffs, and at worst they're banned.

 

[AshamedVirgin34]

ITcucks are an incredibly fringe part of society, not only they don't represent the average offline person, they don't even represent the average redditor, that's how insignificant they are.

 

[Takeyami1987]

The production of AI girlfriends are inevitable. Sure it might take a long ass time but no activist or political figure will stop it from being produced.

The problem would be exporting it to places like the US. The foid activists would try make it hard or ban the AI girlfriends from being exported to the US. If they succeed, at best they're placed under heavy tariffs, and at worst they're banned.

it depends on how much the government views them as a security threat. I'm optimistic on it because trump has repeatedly pushed back the tiktok deadline which shows theyre willing to permit china stuff like that. Realistically robot girlfriends wouldnt be that big of a national security threat. I think a full on ban is unlikely but rather tariffs and such. And in the worst case scenario, you could probably go to mexico and buy one or something like peopel do with chinese cars.

 

[ColderManTruce]

ITcucks are an incredibly fringe part of society, not only they don't represent the average offline person, they don't even represent the average redditor, that's how insignificant they are.