- Oct 12, 2018
- 13h 35m
allright I get it man, you're speaking facts and you have good observationsDeepSea said:They knew that sexual deprivation is harmful. Hippie ideologues like Wilhelm Reich, who was an iconic figure during the counterculture movement of the 1960s, believed that denying sex leads to neurotic behavior and that male sexual frustration causes and exacerbates all kinds of social problems. What they failed to understand, however, is that liberating female sexuality, even in the context of a highly egalitarian community where everyone is supposed to care for each other, makes it harder, rather than easier, for most men to get sex.
Incels have been around in significant amounts in every era that doesn't enforce monogamy and punish female promiscuity. In the kingdom of Dahomey in the nineteenth century, it was difficult to find a single man borne from anyone but the king and his relatives - most men were made celibate thanks to polygyny. The same thing happens informally in most hoe cultures, because there, women are the providers, and the men end up physically competing with one another for multiple women. As a result, the Bateman gradient is massive. When the Bateman gradient is large, you have lots of incels.
That's...not what that term means.
living openly with a sexual partner without marriage; sexual relations with no commitments by either partner… See the full definitionwww.merriam-webster.com
Free love has nothing to do with sexual redistributionism/socialism (free sex), which is something that women have always been viciously opposed to. Women only want to give free sex to attractive men.
That's not sexual repression, that's feminist repression. Women don't want anyone to acknowledge that there are negative social consequences to women's behavior.
There is no taboo on female sexuality in mainstream American society. Women have made out, fucked and sucked off men for the dumbest, wildest reasons imaginable, there are literally a million of links, it's hard to even name all of them.
Just visit places like /r/Stupidslutsclub or /r/gonewildstories or /r/rapekink or even /r/sex and TrollX itself. Women fuck guys just to lose their virginity, make out with guys just to make someone jealous, "hate-sex", prestige sex, sorority dare sex, being the third girl in a threesome who just licks the other girl's vagina in some drunken Ibiza party with a guy who doesn't even know anything about them, fucking guys of certain races just to try it, fucking guys in a certain setting to fulfill a BDSM fantasy, actively admitting to fucking bad boys, fucking a random dude off tinder to relieve stress, I could sit here all day describing the scenarios.
They will say that sex is 'not a big deal' and that casual sex is just another form of 'mutual fun' like any other, in addition to telling incels that nothing is wrong with their looks. Ask them if they could merely kiss you to know what it's like, something they've done a thousand times for a thousand different reasons, many of which involve *no emotional connection* or extended familiarity, especially in their youth, and they'll all tell you that they'd never even do it to save your life. Sluts are hypocritical scum.
There is much less repression of female sexuality today than there was in the 1950s. Has this resulted in there being fewer incels? No! In fact, the exact opposite has happened.
This study uses the General Social Survey to examine how the portion of sexually inactive (defined as having had no sexual partners since your 18th birthday) among young adults (age 20-24) that were born from 1990-1994 compares to cohorts that were born in previous decades.
The 1930s cohort that came of age in the 1940s and 1950s had the most sex. Every single generation after that has seen a decline. The portion of sexually inactive jumps from 6.31% among those born from 1965-1969 to ~11.5% among those born from 1970-1979, remains steady for those born from 1980-1989, and jumps again to 15.17% for those born from 1990-1994.
Hypergamy used to be mitigated with obligatory monogamy. Now that this is no longer the case, we are reverting to our most natural state, in which more and more men are forgotten. This is only "bad" for women and society if these men become violent or aggressive. But they are pacified with video games, porn, and medications, so this rarely happens..
Sluts don't care about the "sanctity" of monogamy they still don't want to sleep with incels.
The problem with female promiscuity is that it causes sexual inequality among men. In other words, a small fraction of the men monopolize all the women causing misery for the rest of the men, and in many cases incels, some of whom snap and some of whom go on rampages as a result. Monogamy with premarital chastity causes sexual equality, meaning that everyone gets roughly the same amount of sex.
In civilized patriarchal cultures, men get sex from prostitutes and their wives, and sluts are enslaved, raped, or burned at the stake.
Lots of men actually prefer sluts over virgins. 33% of men say they wouldn't date a woman who is a virgin. Most men are cucks who'd gladly marry pornstars and prostitutes.
In the free love communes of the 1960s, there were no pure and innocent girls, but there were lots of sexless men, and lots of vile sluts sharing the same dominant and attractive men with one another.
It's not the same at all. Most incels would visit prostitutes if they could easily afford their services; most women would never sleep with incels. Some incels feel disgust towards prostitutes because prostitutes have been defiled by lots of men and because they're more likely to carry STDs. This has nothing to do with the irrational disgust that women instinctively feel towards low status and unattractive men.
Sexual disgust serves as a quality control in mate choice, and women are much more prone to sexual disgust than men. If it were socially constructed, then men would be just as prone to sexual disgust as women are, if not much more prone, because the idea of a woman who has taken the bodily fluids of many men is more "dirty" than the idea of a man who is humble and non-powerful.
Most people have many relationships before they settle down and get married, and most marriages don't last a lifetime. What you're describing is not a characteristic of America in 2021.
Prostitutes love to service all kinds of men sexually in exchange for money. They are not representative of the vast majority of women. They are not representative of the vast majority of sluts either. Sluts are sexually selective, and just as disgusted by unattractive men as virginal women are.
They do it for the money. It's a very high paying job, and because the types of women who become prostitutes aren't very prone to sexual disgust, it's also an easy job for them. Go ask anyone on r/sexworkers why they do what they do. Some of them might enjoy their job, but money is the main reason why they do it.
The vast majority of prostitutes will never have non-transactional sex with an unattractive man.
Prostitutes are women who were born with an abnormally low disgust propensity. That's why they will fuck ugly and old men for money. Regular women often believe that most prostitutes and porn stars are being sex trafficked and forced to do what they do. Why do they believe that? Because they can't even imagine that any woman would voluntarily sleep with "disgusting" men.
As I've already explained, prostitutes are the exception, not the rule. The rule is that women are much more prone to sexual disgust than men. Most women would never voluntarily become prostitutes.
That's your bluepilled fantasy. In the real world, sluts gravitate towards the top 20% of men and refuse to engage with unattractive men. Just look at Tinder, which is the most popular hookup app.
Those fantasies usually involve monetary compensation. Even porn companies require the non-pornstar guys who participate in gangbangs to pay them.
Women take men's virginity all the time. That's not a social taboo at all. Women don't want to sleep with incels because they instinctively despise men who have unattractive genes.
Zero. There is a subreddit called r/virginityexchange where men can ask women to take their virginity, and as far as I know, no incel has ever been successful there.
Women prefer chads for casual sex. The primary factor determining orgasm frequency in women is their partners’ physical attractiveness and masculinity. Less attractive men are less likely to sexually satisfy them.
Women have a far lower sex drive on average than men and are twice as likely to be asexual. Lesbian couples have much less sex than gay or straight couples.
Lesbian couples are expected to seek sex less frequently than heterosexual or gay male couples. Scholar Waguih William IsHak stated that although lesbian bed death lacks scientific evidence, empirical data has suggested "that women ha[ve] less sexual desire than men and are more submissive in sexual interactions".
The only reason why straight couples have more sex than lesbian couples is because men who are in relationships are always horny and seeking out sex, even when the foid isn't really in the mood for it Testosterone is a large part of what makes men want sex so much more than women, and men with high testosterone levels have higher sex drives than men with low testosterone levels. Castrated males probably desire sex and intimacy as much or more than the average woman.
you're stating it as it is and as it has been, but ultimately you cannot look into the past to figure out the future
there has never been an age like ours where humanity can truly unite as one
as I said earlier humanity's sexual behaviour is exactly in parallel with humanity's level of care towards all of its members
we still have kids struggling for food or schooling in countries when humanity has the ability to feed all
society has been divided, by religion, by race, by class....to the point where people are terrified of communism
communism which is a failed attempt at distributing resources equally amongst all, people are afraid of their own good and have been pitted by the dark elite against themselves
im not saying the soviet union was an example to follow, i'm saying society can be setup in a way where creativity and inventiveness is dynamized and at the same time resources are being shared in a manner that satisfies everyone
we live in a society where capitalism rules, where companies are destroying the environment for paper, billionaires are walking around, a bunch of nobility and political families are hoarding riches, countries are being hijacked ciovertly
up until now we have never lived in a true age of peace of harmony,everything we've seen from female sexuality has existed in this sphere of competition warfare and dominant structures
you do not believe in the willingness to share and the kindness of female sexuality because you've never seen it, but at the same time we've never seen it because we haven't seen it on the societal level either, female sexuality has always existed within these societal structures of dominance
when society truly changes for the better, towards care and development for all its members, so will female sexuality
we can ask ourselves here why does all the pussy go to a bunch of men?
well we can also ask ourselves why does all the money go to a bunch of men?
you can say this makes women cruel golddiggers but they're merely following what happening on a societal level,
if men are fighting over resources and leaving scraps to other men,women will do the same in their way, they'll fight to get at the ''top''
some think female sexuality is innately evil, no female sexuality has been expressing itself within the vibration of evil societal structures
you cannot scream about female sexuality and at the same time scream and cheer for capitalism and billionaires, for they are part of the same structure
especially america has been propagandized to extreme length against the concept of socialism which really is just literally at its core the value of looking out of all members of your group
americans have been divided into individuals, im not saying individuality is bad and we should all blend into some uniform group,
but american have been made to be terrified of basic group care, and its america that HAS BEEN LEADING CULTURE shifts globally, with all the movies,shows and music, america has been the leader of the current sexual dynamics,this is important to understand
individuality actually expresses and blooms the best when it is supported by a strong group tribe base
good strong soil makes for beautiful plants flowers and trees
the soil which is the group support, should be strong
the soil which is competitive, where plants and trees have to fight for the best soil, will be just that, a warground where the victors stand and everyone else is down on the ground
you guys think competition is truly human nature?
you guys think our ''copes'' are really pacifying us?
no humans are innately cooperative, if we were really competitive most if not all incels and even normies wouldve gone ER and we'd be living mad max style
if the human being was really competitive there would be no society and whatever the victor would have left after the chaos of war would be next to nothing
humans are innately cooperative and the reason why chads and ceos get so much is because most most are naturelly peaceful which is a good trait,most men are literally upholding society with their values of peace,
the problem is that there are parasites funnelling the resources ''upwards'', resources gained from a peaceful cooperative society
see a man that expresses his natural peaceful and cooperative self is the man that is building society in its core level
just by the fact that most incels are passive shows that we are building society, we are expressing cooperation and no we are not competitive
some who are terrified of socialism would scream ''what right do you have to resources you've done nothing to help gain''
every man that choses to be peaceful and cooperative has done the MOST FUNDAMENTAL thing a man can in his life,HE HAS CHOSEN TO PARTICIPATE AND UPHOLD SOCIETY, this a moral effort and it is the most important a man can do, for it LITERALLY CREATES SOCIETY
so you do have a right to EVERY resource of society
a strong soil makes for strong growth of plants of all kinds
humanity WILL shift to full cooperation while still supporting dynamizing individual expression and creation but where resources flow in a SANE manner that nourishes the world population
when NO ONE will have to worry about food or housing, or having to slave away at some job, the sexual interaction will naturally flow harmoniously
can we blame women for flocking to chads and ceo's when they walk the streets and see people living homeless?
yes we can, but we can understand whats fueling their behaviour
female sexuality is AFRAID and is in SURVIVAL MODE it has ALWAYS BEEN from the days of physical enslavement to the days of financial enslavement
and as we know fear makes you act erratic, selfish, and aggressive, fear is a disease
BELIEVE me that female sexuality in a society that is truly good-willing,peaceful and harmonious, would look entirely different
when a human being is fully present and conscious he or she is EMPATHIC and it becomes impossible to ignore someone's elses pain and not ADDRESS IT; thats the real human being
it becomes impossible to look away at the homeless guy in the street, at the old person struggling, at the men sexually left behind....
these are all symptoms of the same problem, humanity asleep to itself, numbing itself with alcohol and drugs to escape facing a reality of the expression of a FALSE human nature, we are not competitive, we are naturally cooperative