Problem with Communism

[Pikacel]

It sounds good on paper but IRL it just… it just doesn’t work.

We all saw what happened in Afghanistan. Went from stable capitalist republic to commies trying to force their shit on the populace, starting a brutal war and setting Afghanistan back decades.

Or DRPK vs South Korea. Shit is rough. Even see what retarded commies did to Cambodia vs high IQ capitalists turning Singapore from subhuman jungle gook backwater to first world metropolis. It just seems that wherever commies rear their ugly head millions die.

 

[lugubriouseanastar]

I don’t understand how people even idolize communism. Millions have died because of it. It sounds very ideal in theory, maybe that’s the version the pro-communists have in their minds?

 

[AutistSupremacist]

I don’t understand how people even idolize communism. Millions have died because of it. It sounds very ideal in theory, maybe that’s the version the pro-communists have in their minds?

Many today are poor and struggling and want a system that advocates for them. Personally, I've become disillusioned with communism because the modern left cannot organize and are too puritan + there are too many types of communists (Marxists, ML, MLM, etc)

 

[Zer0/∞]

I don’t understand how people even idolize communism. Millions have died because of it. It sounds very ideal in theory, maybe that’s the version the pro-communists have in their minds?

Because it’s the fastest method to industrialization: you can’t compete with an industry with the entire backing of the state. Btw, Singapore was never a free market capitalist state: the state owns the land, most live in the public housing it provides, and a significant portion of the economy is state owned.

 

[lugubriouseanastar]

Many today are poor and struggling and want a system that advocates for them. Personally, I've become disillusioned with communism because the modern left cannot organize and are too puritan + there are too many types of communists (Marxists, ML, MLM, etc)

Only those who live under it can imagine the damage it’s caused. What’s happening now, and what’s happened in countries like China, Vietnam, North Korea, and Cambodia, is clear evidence of this. Many of these places remain shitholes, and thousands of people are trying to get out.

Because it’s the fastest method to industrialization: you can’t compete with an industry with the entire backing of the state. Btw, Singapore was never a free market capitalist state: the state owns the land, most live in the public housing it provides, and a significant portion of the economy is state owned.

Singapore has never been a communist state. It’s been partly capitalist and socialist since independence in 1965.

 

[Zer0/∞]

Only those who live under it can imagine the damage it’s caused. What’s happening now, and what’s happened in countries like China, Vietnam, North Korea, and Cambodia, is clear evidence of this. Many of these places remain shitholes, and thousands of people are trying to get out.

Singapore has never been a communist state. It’s been partly capitalist and socialist since independence in 1965.

True, but my point is free market capitalism is not the proven best economic system like OP thinks it is. The state has taken massive interventions for every successful economy to be in the position they are.

 

[lugubriouseanastar]

Here, you can read about the genocides committed under communist regimes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes

 

[Pikacel]

True, but my point is free market capitalism is not the proven best economic system like OP thinks it is. The state has taken massive interventions for every successful economy to be in the position they are.

I think it was state capitalism but tax haven for foreign companies

 

[lugubriouseanastar]

True, but my point is free market capitalism is not the proven best economic system like OP thinks it is. The state has taken massive interventions for every successful economy to be in the position they are.

Ah, I misunderstood. I thought you were talking about the ideology of communism itself. I’m probably out of my depth on this.

 

[anglocelticcel]

Don’t trust the government. Gov hoards all the money and is undemocratic

 

[PillarofReality]

Problems with communism:

1. It's ran by Jews
2. Its preaching dysgenics

 

[Pikacel]

True, but my point is free market capitalism is not the proven best economic system like OP thinks it is. The state has taken massive interventions for every successful economy to be in the position they are.

You’re right about free markets Tbh

 

[Caesercel]

It sounds good on paper but IRL it just… it just doesn’t work.

It worked in almost all the countries that tried it. None of which went full communism btw.

We all saw what happened in Afghanistan. Went from stable capitalist republic to commies trying to force their shit on the populace, starting a brutal war and setting Afghanistan back decades.

So it's communist's fault that US backed Islamist militia turned afganistan into a shithole? Imperialists are like foids. Cannot take responsibility for shit they do.

I Cambodia vs high IQ capitalists turning Singapore from subhuman jungle gook backwater to first world metropolis.

Apples and oranges

Only those who live under it can imagine the damage it’s caused. What’s happening now, and what’s happened in countries like China, Vietnam, North Korea, and Cambodia, is clear evidence of this. Many of these places remain shitholes, and thousands of people are trying to get out.

I'd rather live in any of those countries than the average capitalist shithole.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

It sounds good on paper but IRL it just… it just doesn’t work.

We all saw what happened in Afghanistan. Went from stable capitalist republic to commies trying to force their shit on the populace, starting a brutal war and setting Afghanistan back decades.

Or DRPK vs South Korea. Shit is rough. Even see what retarded commies did to Cambodia vs high IQ capitalists turning Singapore from subhuman jungle gook backwater to first world metropolis. It just seems that wherever commies rear their ugly head millions die.

Communism is good for the underachieving countries that are centuries behind the developed world. It's basically a kind of steroids, yes you develop quickly and go through decades what others went through centuries, but you have to pay for it with huge sacrifices among the population who will die of hunger or repression. Basically communism is a kind of thing that doesn't make you stronger, but just makes you insensitive to pain for a while. And yes communism is not homogeneous. Khrushchev's version of communism was good, as it doubled the standard of living for the Soviet population.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

It sounds good on paper but IRL it just… it just doesn’t work.

We all saw what happened in Afghanistan. Went from stable capitalist republic to commies trying to force their shit on the populace, starting a brutal war and setting Afghanistan back decades.

Or DRPK vs South Korea. Shit is rough. Even see what retarded commies did to Cambodia vs high IQ capitalists turning Singapore from subhuman jungle gook backwater to first world metropolis. It just seems that wherever commies rear their ugly head millions die.

Gugnyak gives a simple example of how the diet of Soviet people improved under Khrushchev:"Over these 10 years, the per capita consumption of food in Soviet families increased dramatically: vegetables and fruits increased by 3.4 times, meat increased by 1.5 times (from 26 kg to 41 kg in 1960), and milk increased by 40% (from 172 to 240 liters)."The improvement in the diet of common people had never been as rapid before. Many boomers in Russia generally consider the USSR of the 1960s-1980s to be the best time in Russia.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

It sounds good on paper but IRL it just… it just doesn’t work.

We all saw what happened in Afghanistan. Went from stable capitalist republic to commies trying to force their shit on the populace, starting a brutal war and setting Afghanistan back decades.

Or DRPK vs South Korea. Shit is rough. Even see what retarded commies did to Cambodia vs high IQ capitalists turning Singapore from subhuman jungle gook backwater to first world metropolis. It just seems that wherever commies rear their ugly head millions die.

I prefer social democracy to communism. Because communists sooner or later turn into the most savage capitalists and build a caricature of capitalism. As happened in post-communist countries, where former party bureaucrats became the most caricatured bourgeois and used their power to privatize state property during the chaotic transition to capitalism.

 

[Glassness]

China was saved by communism if China was still capitalist's they would be getting raped up the ass still same with Vietnam. The dprk has managed to remain a country while being under sanctions from the entire earth if you compare these 3 country's to the race mixed shitholes the current west is there a lot better. the other guy in the tread has already debunked the Afghanistan claim. Glad people in this thread hasn't all fallen for red scare propaganda

 

[D. B. Gooner]

Who cares all the systems are ass and in your head, the more authoritarian, the more annoying it is to deal with so communism sux

 

[AutistSupremacist]

Here, you can read about the genocides committed under communist regimes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes

Every system has killed people. Look how many millions have been killed by capitalism in Latin America, Africa or India. How many millions were killed during slavery or colonial expansion.

 

[5'4 king of khhv]

Who cares all the systems are ass and in your head, the more authoritarian, the more annoying it is to deal with so communism sux

Communism cannot exist, there are only dictators.

 

[5'4 king of khhv]

Every system has killed people. Look how many millions have been killed hy capitalism in Latin America, Africa or India. How many millions were killed during slavery or colonial expansion.

Every country has its own system that suits it. No one is better than another.

 

[Pikacel]

It worked in almost all the countries that tried it. None of which went full communism btw.

So it's communist's fault that US backed Islamist militia turned afganistan into a shithole? Imperialists are like foids. Cannot take responsibility for shit they do.

Well yes, USSR DID kill millions of civilians and bomb the shit out of Afghanistan.

Yeah JewSA kicked out the Taliban and propped up a useless govt that doesn’t justify what commies did.

Apples and oranges


I'd rather live in any of those countries than the average capitalist shithole.

China is capitalist, Cambodia only good if ur a US citizen who wants to SEAmaxx Lol. And sure you’d want to live in Khmer Rouge Cambodia

China was saved by communism if China was still capitalist's they would be getting raped up the ass still same with Vietnam.

Mao brought stability to the nation and established rapid industrialisation instead of slow as shit development yeah but also starved dozens of millions to death during his governance, and needed moderates to bail him out. Deng Xiaoping’s capitalist policies are what saved the economy before then China was Sub-Sahara tier

The dprk has managed to remain a country while being under sanctions from the entire earth if you compare these 3 country's to the race mixed shitholes the current west is there a lot better. the other guy in the tread has already debunked the Afghanistan claim. Glad people in this thread hasn't all fallen for red scare propaganda

IDK, Iran is under loads sanctions and is doing better. And pozzed West easily >>> hamDRPK with it’s starving citizens, god-king and concentration camps. Who wants to live in DRPK.

Pozzed West let’s you criticise it. If you were living in DRPK and tried shitting on it online you’d be sent straight to hell

I prefer social democracy to communism. Because communists sooner or later turn into the most savage capitalists and build a caricature of capitalism. As happened in post-communist countries, where former party bureaucrats became the most caricatured bourgeois and used their power to privatize state property during the chaotic transition to capitalism.

This tbh

 

[GobidMujahid]

So it's communist's fault that US backed Islamist militia turned afganistan into a shithole? Imperialists are like foids. Cannot take responsibility for shit they do.

The Democratic Republic of Afghanistan forced the Islamist militia to rise up with its Draconian policies.

Afghan communists did a terrible job at governing the country, and that's why the Soviets stepped in and executed their leader, Hafizullah Amin.

American intervention only began after the Soviet invasion.

 

[GobidMujahid]

Yeah JewSA kicked out the Taliban and propped up a useless govt that doesn’t justify what commies did.

Agreed, and I believe the emirate is much more competent than the communist government, warlords, and the liberal government that preceded them.

 

[GobidMujahid]

Pozzed West let’s you criticise it.

True, but not because it is generous.

 

[Caesercel]

Well yes, USSR DID kill millions of civilians and bomb the shit out of Afghanistan.

Yeah JewSA kicked out the Taliban and propped up a useless govt that doesn’t justify what commies did.

The Democratic Republic of Afghanistan forced the Islamist militia to rise up with its Draconian policies.

Afghan communists did a terrible job at governing the country, and that's why the Soviets stepped in and executed their leader, Hafizullah Amin.

American intervention only began after the Soviet invasion.

The Afghan government was already fighting the US/pak backed mujahedeens before Soviets intervened. Also there wouldn't even be an afganistan without Soviets. And now it has to sit through decades of filthy Islamist rule

. And sure you’d want to live in Khmer Rouge Cambodia

You mean the same khmer Rogue Cambodia that was ruled by a proven CIA implant?

 

[St.Greypiller]

It sounds good on paper but IRL it just… it just doesn’t work.

We all saw what happened in Afghanistan. Went from stable capitalist republic to commies trying to force their shit on the populace, starting a brutal war and setting Afghanistan back decades.

Or DRPK vs South Korea. Shit is rough. Even see what retarded commies did to Cambodia vs high IQ capitalists turning Singapore from subhuman jungle gook backwater to first world metropolis. It just seems that wherever commies rear their ugly head millions die.

Communism is good in theory but its the same slave shit as capitalism at the end of the day.

 

[Pikacel]

The Afghan government was already fighting the US/pak backed mujahedeens before Soviets intervened. Also there wouldn't even be an afganistan without Soviets. And now it has to sit through decades of filthy Islamist rule

Nobody wanted the fucking commies. Afghanistan was already a functioning republic before redniggers assassinated their leaders and ran the country into the mud

Plus ‘filthy Islamist rule’ like they’re implanting themselves on seculars, you realise Afghanistan is 100% Muslim and wants Muslim governance right? And not like corrupt secular govt that practiced bacha bazi is any better

You mean the same khmer Rogue Cambodia that was ruled by a proven CIA implant?

Great Satan and commie China backed it yea

 

[GobidMujahid]

Plus ‘filthy Islamist rule’ like they’re implanting themselves on seculars, you realise Afghanistan is majority Muslim and wants Muslim governance right?

Yes, 99% of Afghans support sharia law.

And how many ordinary people rose up and were martyred for the return of the emirate...

 

[1Disturbed]

It sounds good on paper

No. It does not.

Communism is good in theory

It's not.

It sounds very ideal in theory

Not at all.

 

[SilentShadow]

A mix of socialism and capitalism is the best system, like for example the Nordic countries.

 

[1Disturbed]

A mix of socialism and capitalism is the best system, like for example the Nordic countries.

I disagree.