JFL Post number 62,317,235 debunking the "Girls don't make the first move, bro!" advice

[andinocel]

Some background - I'm a professional wagecel (I like my job, ngl, but that's another topic)

We had an after work gathering, paid for by the bosses - kind of team building but not quite, very laid back. Usually, in these environments, you get to see more of your coworkers personalities. One older millenial/possibly younger Gen-X foid is fairly new here (for this post lets call her Mary). One of the guys is a Chad type (cool guy, tbh, nothing against him), but he for sure DID NOT lose the genetic lottery.
Towards the end, as people were loosening up in the activities and bonding, Mary straight out asks Chad to 'meet at one of the local bars for drinks'
Mind you, the guy is way above Mary's looksmatch

But normies are like: Just talk to her, she's not gonna approach you! and then proceed to spew out pop psychology drivel for the evolutionary reasons women never initiate
And redpill PUA fucks are like: Looks don't fucking matter bro - its your game, she ain't gonna make the first move

I'm sure guys deep in the blackpill know this, but its worth repeating: Women do make the first move - just not towards men who are less than an 8/10 in looks

And no, its not the first time I've seen this happen

 

[GeneticCatastrophe]

Some background - I'm a professional wagecel (I like my job, ngl, but that's another topic)

We had an after work gathering, paid for by the bosses - kind of team building but not quite, very laid back. Usually, in these environments, you get to see more of your coworkers personalities. One older millenial/possibly younger Gen-X foid is fairly new here (for this post lets call her Mary). One of the guys is a Chad type (cool guy, tbh, nothing against him), but he for sure DID NOT lose the genetic lottery.
Towards the end, as people were loosening up in the activities and bonding, Mary straight out asks Chad to 'meet at one of the local bars for drinks'
Mind you, the guy is way above Mary's looksmatch

But normies are like: Just talk to her, she's not gonna approach you! and then proceed to spew out pop psychology drivel for the evolutionary reasons women never initiate
And redpill PUA fucks are like: Looks don't fucking matter bro - its your game, she ain't gonna make the first move

I'm sure guys deep in the blackpill know this, but its worth repeating: Women do make the first move - just not towards men who are less than an 8/10 in looks

And no, its not the first time I've seen this happen

He just had a good personality bro

 

[andrej]

For 8/10+ guys, women will initiate the conversation first
For 5/10-6/10 guys, women will temporarily keep them and accept their initiation, but they will leave them for 7/10+ guys
For guys below 5/10, almost no women will keep them even temporarily, and if they do they might even be replaced by 6/10 guys

 

[Mr.Breb]

yeah that advice is for normies

 

[Grodd]

He just had a good personality bro

 

[Yunoo]

Some background - I'm a professional wagecel (I like my job, ngl, but that's another topic)

We had an after work gathering, paid for by the bosses - kind of team building but not quite, very laid back. Usually, in these environments, you get to see more of your coworkers personalities. One older millenial/possibly younger Gen-X foid is fairly new here (for this post lets call her Mary). One of the guys is a Chad type (cool guy, tbh, nothing against him), but he for sure DID NOT lose the genetic lottery.
Towards the end, as people were loosening up in the activities and bonding, Mary straight out asks Chad to 'meet at one of the local bars for drinks'
Mind you, the guy is way above Mary's looksmatch

But normies are like: Just talk to her, she's not gonna approach you! and then proceed to spew out pop psychology drivel for the evolutionary reasons women never initiate
And redpill PUA fucks are like: Looks don't fucking matter bro - its your game, she ain't gonna make the first move

I'm sure guys deep in the blackpill know this, but its worth repeating: Women do make the first move - just not towards men who are less than an 8/10 in looks

And no, its not the first time I've seen this happen

This is water and also why chads are so confident. They get positive reinforcement every day from women

 

[RobertGarnicasAPedo]

If you have to make the first move, she doesn't find you sexually attractive.

The normie answer to that is that you'll somehow BECOME "attractive" to her with your personality, but of course, that doesn't create SEXUAL ATTRACTION.

That's why these relationships are just a matter of women settling and having starfish sex.

 

[andinocel]

If you have to make the first move, she doesn't find you sexually attractive.

The normie answer to that is that you'll somehow BECOME "attractive" to her with your personality, but of course, that doesn't create SEXUAL ATTRACTION.

That's why these relationships are just a matter of women settling and having starfish sex.

And that's why I always think to myself and often repeat in this forum:

For men, there are two genders, male and female

For women, there are in their thought process three genders:
1) female,
2) male (in their internal definition - guys 8 and above), and
3) the things that they won't fuck but might settle once they're starting to get fat and old.
That explains why they find rape so "horrible" - its like a guy getting raped by another guy if a sub-8 does it, and its like getting fucked by a non-human if a sub-5 does it

 

[The Notorious SLAV]

Honestly a lot of the pushback blackpill gets is because a lot of incels-in-denials' mental health depends on rejecting the idea that foids can and often do make the first move, which for a lot of guys who've never experienced it is, for obvious reasons, too bleak to accept.

 

[anglocelticcel]

I’ve seen Women approach Men. Both for attraction and for more sinister reasons.

You are right a Girl WILL approach a guy

 

[fastnbulbous]

I have everything against that chad