Pleasure is intrinsically good. Pain is intrinsically bad. This is the hedonist philosophy. Argue back if you disagree.
Pleasure is good, pain is bad and water is...
WET
WET
Some people disagree with pleasure is intrinsically good. Retarded stoic virtue ethicans niggers scum.
pleasure and pain are interconnected in many situations
the pleasure and pain of most people is neither good or bad, it is indifferent because they are just NPCs and their feelings do not matter
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That's not what hedonism is. It's the belief that pleasure is the highest good, and prioritizing your own pleasure above all else (this can include the pain of others). It's arguably a form of egoism.
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No. Hedonism just says pleasure is the only intrinsic good and pain the only intrinsic bad. There is no egoism there. Is not a moral framework.
it matters
well then suck a nigger idk
why I hate niggers
blast niggers with civilwar cannons
stab black nigger pregnant woman
launch nigger babies into the sun
toss niggers into an active volcano
Pleasure and pain are both relative. That doesn't really mean anything.
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OK, sure, whatever. Hedonism is obviously incorrect, based on the criterion of intrinsic property. There are other things that intrinsically good and bad. Life is intrinsically good, death is intrinsically bad. But life is not pleasure, nor is death pain. You can have life, be alive, and have a miserable existence devoid of pleasure (in case you've forgotten who and where we are).
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Deal with the argument, retard.
Hedonism is core Basic Animal Behaviour,including Humans but
These Advance "Monkey like creature" think Pain is good to get a Tough thing practically for "reasonable enought to not deal with the pain later or continually"
Or just the Brain thinks so (Biological Blackpill is Brutalllll)
not gonna use 1 calorie with you nigger, you always cope and leave when i respond with logical arguements
i didn't see this post before i made mine, the one you commented on. but i disagree principally with this as the two pronged judaeo-christian moral framework of the notions of 'good' and 'bad' is nonsense invented for the goyim rabble by the popery to fill the coffers. it is of course much more nuanced than that. even within the purview of this framework the 'bad' deserve bad things, and the 'good' deserve good things. as a result hedonism could only feasibly be selectively dished out to a populace, with the masses only receiving pleasure in so far as it does not halt them from being industrious. this is essentially capitalism and christianity. pleasure is only conducive to greater things discriminately; unrestrained indulgence is not conducive to anything. those who suffer from profound dysgenicity should not receive any pleasure as it would incentivise them to continue living, draining resources from people and places it could better be allocated to, and possibly incentivise them to procreate.
and, pleasure by itself lacks any substance as it is simply little neurotransmitters and hormones firing off through neural pathways and synapses. pleasure by itself is a base thing as it leads to desire for further unbridled gratification which drains resources. as a result developing a philosophy based around pleasure is rather silly i think.
and, pleasure by itself lacks any substance as it is simply little neurotransmitters and hormones firing off through neural pathways and synapses. pleasure by itself is a base thing as it leads to desire for further unbridled gratification which drains resources. as a result developing a philosophy based around pleasure is rather silly i think.
just sounds like christcuckery and libtardism to me
man im too low iq to read that
i was just saying that the morality of hedonism along arbitrary terms is irrelvant and all that matters is whether it is sustainable and conducive to anything, which it isn't
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Nigger moment.
literal monkey brain philosophy you have going on here
things feel good because its evolutionarily benefitial for them to feel good. Enjoy being fat
things feel good because its evolutionarily benefitial for them to feel good. Enjoy being fat
Typical anti hedonistic illogical fallacy trash. Hedonist is not = being fat.
You are the one who seems to not be able to argue well. I recognize this mistake in myself aswell, I gotta say I somewhat agree with your point but I do recognize pain can also be a good teacher and that without it there would be no pleasure. Its not so black and white really
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Actually it is kinda diabolical
sometime what we seen as pleasure in one case can also be pain in a different perspective
Same case for vice versa
So, Coping while having pleasure can be a Torture
While being in Pain but not Coping to compensate is true Pleasure(of being satisfied)
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Now its good
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IT's ovER FOR YOU
GET A H-BOMB AND BLOW IT IN YOUR ARSE NIGGEEEEEEEEEEEEE>
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also it is black and white. Pain is always bad. If i could remove it i would without blinking i hope in the future there is technology to remove pain receptors entirely from the brain remove tolerance and stimulate pleasure to the maximum all the time
Ok but what about
Pain now, more pleasure later
And
Pleasure now, more pain later
Pain now, more pleasure later
And
Pleasure now, more pain later
obviously the option that leads to more pleasure is the best one nigga. No need to say such obvious shit.
Stoicism is a psychopath's philosophy, whoever uses it without knowing it is completely illiterate. Most only know how to talk shit in the name of Marcos Aurélio.
The problem with material pleasure is that it lasts for a short time, so it is not a perfect pleasure, it is good, but it is not perfect.
The pleasure must last for eternity.
masculinity cope
I agree, I think the same.But pain is what maintains fear, and fear is what maintains survival, if some retard didn't have a deep essence within them that was very meaningful, they would commit suicide, they would basically be as shallow as they are now, but I I have essence in me and deep concepts for me, so I wouldn't have this problem.
You miss what pleasure is. Pleasure is just a feeling. The human brain is designed in a way that basically (to not enter into neurological shit) dont let you have high pleasure surplus (pleasure surplus is pleasure - pain). And most of activities that produce instant pleasure lead to more pain, e.g drugs and hyper stimulation activities like social media.
pleasure is intrinsically good but the human brain is designed to not let us feel much pleasure surplus.
That doesn't mean pleasure is not intrinsically good. It just means pleasure in the human brain is basically not real, but is possible (in thr future) to fix that with technology
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You've already proven yourself to be a low IQ monkey, so this is going to feel like a pointless chore. Here's an example where pain is good.
You burn your hand on fire. You learn that fire is hot and painful. You are more careful around fire.
Based all subhumans should become hedonists to cope
Oh my god. You dont have enough with being a scumbag but you also a anti hedonistic utilitarian piece of useless meat. Id kill you in a mass shooting (in arma 3 reforger)You've already proven yourself to be a low IQ monkey, so this is going to feel like a pointless chore. Here's an example where pain is good.
You burn your hand on fire. You learn that fire is hot and painful. You are more careful around fire.
You dont need pain at all to learn unless you are a brainless baby without PFC. A pc dont need to fucking punch you when there is an error to give you an alert.You've already proven yourself to be a low IQ monkey, so this is going to feel like a pointless chore. Here's an example where pain is good.
You burn your hand on fire. You learn that fire is hot and painful. You are more careful around fire.
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