Blackpill OLD is the easiest; if you struggle on OLD, a social circle is out. The apparent importance of a social circle comes from a wrong assumption

[PSL_Veteran]

I saw many threads about the importance of social circles in 2018-20 on here. However, my life experience claims a social circle is the least important in ltn-htn life (thus most of men).

From the math pov, what are the chances you get into a social circle where, at least, a single foid wouldve been into you? even if you assume 10% irl might be into you and 1% on OLD. The first is very optimistic, the latter is quite normal.

Inb4 "but normies get a gf from social circles!" just leave that forum if you think they are attracted to those men. most of them are being cucked by tinder/nightlife killas.

Social circle may be helpful to get, so called, a "hqnp" foid if you are as gl as you are able to attract >30% of your women peers irl.

From my personal experience, OLD was obv the easiest; I've received few likes and even managed to get some dates which were all either flaked or ghosted afterwards, but at least I had a female contact lol. Flakes happened since I frauded my pics apparently. I thought I looked similarly irl, but unfortunately not. I was studying foid-dominant majors twice and all foids there were hostile towards me and unwilling to even work in groups with me lol. In HS and earlier I was bullied by them. So, as you may conclude, never begun for me.

 

[Cuckoja]

What is OLD? If you live in a small town like me, social circle is very important, but not even close to height, face, money and status.

 

[Cuckoja]

>30% of your women peers irl.

Dude, 95% of men can't do that, great majority of men have nothing to offer. Settling is the norm.

 

[Melanus]

How could OLD be better?
Its literally brutal for sub Chad men.

Foids get to swipe from a large selection of men.

Competition is insane, so don’t even bother with that. And theres only sluts on there waiting to get fucked by Chad.

What makes u think OLD could be better for guys that want a genuine relationship with non slutty women?

 

[PSL_Veteran]

How could OLD be better?
Its literally brutal for sub Chad men.

Foids get to swipe from a large selection of men.

Competition is insane, so don’t even bother with that. And theres only sluts on there waiting to get fucked by Chad.

What makes u think OLD could be better for guys that want a genuine relationship with non slutty women?

you have 10000x higher exposure to foids on OLD while the reality stays the same as the ones from social circles use OLD as well to spot the best genetics...

 

[Roastie Crusher]

you have 10000x higher exposure to foids on OLD while the reality stays the same as the ones from social circles use OLD as well to spot the best genetics...

The point of OLD is to keep people dating. Maybe if they could make money by creating marriages.

 

[Melanus]

you have 10000x higher exposure to foids on OLD while the reality stays the same as the ones from social circles use OLD as well to spot the best genetics...

Be real dating apps are only for rlly good looking ppl. You have to get a lot of likes to be pushed to those foids u speak off.

Why would they choose u when they got matched with 100 other guys that look better?

U just get rejected on a grander scale.

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

OLD being 'easier' just shows how dire things are. You can at least see a number, while social circles give you the illusion of hope until they mentally filter you out without a word. Cold hard rejection is better than fake inclusion.

 

[8CbZA-kHFu6pFgE*]

Joined: Apr 1, 2025
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[PSL_Veteran]

Why would they choose u when they got matched with 100 other guys that look better?

it applies to social circles also

OLD being 'easier' just shows how dire things are. You can at least see a number, while social circles give you the illusion of hope until they mentally filter you out without a word. Cold hard rejection is better than fake inclusion.

this

 

[PSL_Veteran]

0

 

[psyop]

 

[lastchancel]

I have a sub 2% match rate, i requested my data after many months of use. the 2% matches also includes bots, and none got to a date (real ones ghosted)

 

[Emba]

Olds me

 

[PSL_Veteran]

I have a sub 2% match rate, i requested my data after many months of use. the 2% matches also includes bots, and none got to a date (real ones ghosted)

i have 1.5%

 

[exposesociety]

OLD being 'easier' just shows how dire things are. You can at least see a number, while social circles give you the illusion of hope until they mentally filter you out without a word. Cold hard rejection is better than fake inclusion.

What does OLD means?

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

What does OLD means?

Online dating.

 

[City Incel]

I was able to get a few dates from Tinder in 2015 when I was very fit and young after paying for a professional photoshoot (before I had no matches). Unf. I failed all my dates - no makeouts, no second dates... just fails.

I think online dating sucks. I liked daygame and nightgame more, although I was not able to pull from them too because my calibration was off and I didn't try constantly enough.

Back then I didn't know it's a numbers game and very hard so I was confused about my failures. I didn't know I'm expected to push much harder and adjust myself and my social skills to finally get results.

Reason I liked game was because it took courage to approach girls, especially the few times I approached actually hot girls.

 

[ForcedMarriageNow]

The point of OLD is to keep people dating. Maybe if they could make money by creating marriages.

Which it fails to do as men drop out entirely due to lack of attention. Why bother using five different sites clearing out your daily swipes on every one of them every day until you start repeating the same accounts? Gamblers need the dopamine hit of "winning" every so often otherwise even the most dedicated and addicted gambler will quit when there seems to be no hope of even getting a small payout much less a jackpot. Most men will realize that if women are flat out uninterested in us then visibility isn't worth paying for, meanwhile from what I've seen men who receive decent success in OLD tend to not only be more willing to pay for premium once to try it, but even continue paying for it.

I have a sub 2% match rate, i requested my data after many months of use. the 2% matches also includes bots, and none got to a date (real ones ghosted)

Still mogs me by almost double.

 

[PSL_Veteran]

I liked daygame and nightgame more, although I was not able to pull from them too because my calibration was off and I didn't try constantly enough.

nightgame is as legit as old since sluts there are for obv thing (same as on OLD), albeit day game is prob cringe unless you get an IOI (which incel never receives).

 

[Choler]

easier if u are good looking, if u are average its easier for u to meet foids through ur social circle, if ur ugly then its over anyway

 

[PSL_Veteran]

easier if u are good looking, if u are average its easier for u to meet foids through ur social circle, if ur ugly then its over anyway

if you get 0 on old, you get 0 irl. old = irl. unless you count betacucking as an ascension via social circle

 

[Choler]

if you get 0 on old, you get 0 irl. old = irl. unless you count betacucking as an ascension via social circle

yes OLD is basically IRL, internet is real life in 2025, but if ur a normie u have a bit higher chances to pull a foid irl compared to OLD

 

[8CbZA-kHFu6pFgE*]

i hate stupid retarded faggots who make an acronym for everything because they are lazy retarded niggers

 

[PSL_Veteran]

i hate stupid retarded faggots who make an acronym for everything because they are lazy retarded niggers

i am a slav nigger.

 

[8CbZA-kHFu6pFgE*]

i am a slav nigger.

what about it ?

 

[PSL_Veteran]

what about it ?

just for your information

 

[8CbZA-kHFu6pFgE*]

just for your information

Thank you for the information but unfortunately it doesnt change the fact that you are a lazy nigger

 

[City Incel]

Thank you for the information but unfortunately it doesnt change the fact that you are a lazy nigger

A lazy guy I knew made money in a lazy business model and pushed it all in bitcoin in 2014 to 2016. Now he's a millionaire and set for life.

 

[NIGGER BOJANGLES]

OLD being 'easier' just shows how dire things are. You can at least see a number, while social circles give you the illusion of hope until they mentally filter you out without a word. Cold hard rejection is better than fake inclusion.

Wtf is OLD

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

Wtf is OLD

Online dating.