Blackpill NT is extremely underrated here

[Personalityinkwell]

Low inhibition comes from positive reinforcement and knowledge you can get away with shit.

 

[Ropemaxx]

It's not though, I'm not talking about sexual popularity, I'm talking about social popularity, these people have zero sexual popularity, but also have low social respect from others as well.

The high inhib aura is a result of looks, because those people don't get away with acting low inhib. Low inhibition comes from positive reinforcement and knowledge you can get away with shit.

Talking about where it comes from is a different topic.I also included it in my OP.
Some ugly people are low inhib, some arnt. Also dont forget the fact that some good looking people are too socially awkward to make friends. But i guess that dont fit your agenda at all.

Anyway i cant take what you say seriously when you think looks matters when making money, or that you even mention it.
Is there anything looks isnt to blame for? seems like the biggest cope of all. You can literally never fail at anything, just blame ur looks

 

[GoffSystemQB]

@GoffSystemQB Damn I could have autism, and I've only been pretending all my life that I'm NT?

I would take the survey I linked in this thread. The people I was referring to mostly have very expressive and lengthy writing styles, usually they are obsessed with anime as well (isn't always the case), some have disordered sexual desires, sometimes they do or say odd things, etc.

You might be on the threshold. I can't clearly say either way, but you're not someone that I would be certain or suspect they have autism.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

good looking people are too socially awkward to make friends

never soon a good looking person who is "socially awkward" without friends, unless they have legit autism

 

[Ropemaxx]

never soon a good looking person who is "socially awkward" without friends, unless they have legit autism

@Weed
also if you looksmaxx and surgerymaxx to a good looking person, will you suddenly have a social circle with women the same day?

 

[anon2719]

My looks lead to me being not NT

 

[Personalityinkwell]

@Weed

Weed isn't that good looking. 6 is in the normie range. Your argument against him is some chick on IncelTears rated him an 8. But that's a chick on IncelTears. People on that subreddit are the kinds to spout complete BS and say some balding subhuman is as good looking as Gandy

Show me a Chadlite or Chad with no friends

 

[Ropemaxx]

Weed isn't that good looking. 6 is in the normie range. Your argument against him is some chick on IncelTears rated him an 8. But that's a chick on IncelTears. People on that subreddit are the kinds to spout complete BS and say some balding subhuman is as good looking as Gandy

He is good looking, from that picture we saw. Orb also had to seamaxx even tho he was good looking?
Clearly there are some good looking mentalcels. You might be one after you looksmaxx

 

[Personalityinkwell]

He is good looking, from that picture we saw. Orb also had to seamaxx even tho he was good looking?
Clearly there are some good looking mentalcels. You might be one after you looksmaxx

Weed is a 6 bro. A 6 is normie range.

Orb has high functioning autism.

Find me a Chadlite or Chad without autism, who is friendless because of "social awkwardness"

doesn't exist.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

I don't see why it can't be taken seriously, literally anything that involves people will be impacted by looks. This is well known and well documented social phenomenon.

Weed angle frauded, he doesn't look as good from the side.

Ropemaxx is the kind to advocate gym but not focus on plastic surgery

 

[Ropemaxx]

I don't see why it can't be taken seriously, literally anything that involves people will be impacted by looks. This is well known and well documented social phenomenon.

My question was if you can blame everything on your life on looks, and you answer with this
jfl. whatever man keep coping, i dont even think you are blackpilled when you cope like this

Ropemaxx is the kind to advocate gym but not focus on plastic surgery

you cant do both?

 

[Ropemaxx]

I don't see why it can't be taken seriously, literally anything that involves people will be impacted by looks. This is well known and well documented social phenomenon.

Weed angle frauded, he doesn't look as good from the side.

jeremy meeks has pictures where he looks shit from the side too. you are changing the evidence to fit your world view

Well anything social related can largely be attributed to looks yeah. The bigger cope is pretending looks don't impact social situations because you're desperate to believe you can overcome it all one day.

no, the cope is blaming everything un your life on looks. you never even denied that was a problem/fallacy
i will blame only my dating life on looks. not everything.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

you cant do both?

you can, but face is 10x more important than body. In fact, gymming takes bulking, which can make your face bloated, so it has drawbacks to it.

 

[Ropemaxx]

In fact, gymming takes bulking, which can make your face bloated, so it has drawbacks to it.

lol what a simp excuse. im so tired of this bullshit. more soy here than on inceltears tbh

A lot of things can be put down to looks, people in general treat unattractive people worse than attractive people, you will be judged far harsher if you're unattractive than if you're attractive. The only counter you've brought up is some jestermaxxed fat people who exist as living joke for their chad friends and act like that somehow disproved my point when in reality it only enforces it. Those fat dudes are forced to constantly jester and self deprecate to be tolerated, I've seen it happen plenty of times before, they're not treated anywhere near as well or with as much respect as good looking people no matter what they do.

water is wet post. extremely good looking 8/10 gets treated better than 1/10? no fucking shit
but using it as an excuse to not have a social circle and at the same time call personality a meme
you literally called NT a meme. i dont know how you ever got to this level of cope.

what do you rate urself? a 1-2/10? if so i can accept it. but it doesnt apply to 99%

He still has a defined enough jaw to look good in general and at the very least doesn't have a recessed chin. His worst is like a 6/10. I mean what are you gonna tell me everyone actually hired jeremy meeks for his wonderful personality?

Weed had virtually no friends or female partners. Is it because of his looks or the fact that he has worse social skills than 99% of this forum?
Why did orb have to seamaxx? He mogs 99,9% of this forum? You gonna dodge these questions too or change the fact and tell me those guys were ugly?

 

[Personalityinkwell]

lol what a simp excuse. im so tired of this bullshit. more soy here than on inceltears tbh

simp excuse? You're the one coping thinking skinny good looking dudes can't get laid.

Gym is COPE. Face>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gym

There's a reason the term "gymcel" exists, and people on /fit/ are mostly incels

 

[GoffSystemQB]

Weed angle frauded, he doesn't look as good from the side.

Well I'm pretty sure he got laid in the past and he's never denied it when many accused him of it. And he doesn't seem that old to be aged out of the market.

Having a recessed chin sucks big time if you have a birdcel profile, but his recession didn't look that bad to me just based on the front.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Well I'm pretty sure he got laid in the past and he's never denied it when many accused him of it. And he doesn't seem that old to be aged out of the market.

Having a recessed chin sucks big time if you have a birdcel profile, but his recession didn't look that bad to me just based on the front.

yeah exactly, weed is likely a fakecel anyway, so the idea that weed's social skills held him back is not some proven statement

 

[Ropemaxx]

simp excuse? You're the one coping thinking skinny good looking dudes can't get laid.

Gym is COPE. Face>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gym

There's a reason the term "gymcel" exists, and people on /fit/ are mostly incels

Never said that. any 5+/10 male should gym to increase his chances. Saying gym doesnt increase ur SMV is anti scientific garbage.
Imagine trying to ascend with one night stands and not gymming

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Weed had virtually no friends or female partners. Is it because of his looks or the fact that he has worse social skills than 99% of this forum?
Why did orb have to seamaxx? He mogs 99,9% of this forum? You gonna dodge these questions too or change the fact and tell me those guys were ugly?

Orb has legit autism, we already said this was an excuse. We are talking about social skills of people without autism.

Never said that. any 5+/10 male should gym to increase his chances. Saying gym doesnt increase ur SMV is anti scientific garbage.
Imagine trying to ascend with one night stands and not gymming

gigacope, you think this dude has a shit body and will be held back in terms of getting one night stands?

This dude is LEAN, but NOT JACKED. He will do just fine

 

[Ropemaxx]

As I said before it scales linearly. A 4/10 won't necessarily have NO social circle, but will certainly have less of one than a 7/10. The only real exceptions being jestermaxxers who'll usually be taken to parties and such by their chad friends who like having them around to jester for them, where they'll meet people. But they're not actually respected or treated particularly well.

The uglier you are the straight up harder socialising will be, if a 4/10 tried to act like a confident 8/10 he'll get shot the fuck down. Ugly dudes almost always have more limited social circles, and often those social circles will be filled with other ugly dudes. Whenever I see chads, they're always hanging around with other chads, only with their occasional token jester. It's flat out stark.

You confuse being a social and charismatic person with "jestermaxxing"
Also just fucking lol thinking your social circle is equally distributed to your looks, thats the cringiest thing ive ever heard. I bet a lot of people here are uglier yet have more friends than @Weed and orb
Also thinking the only critera for bad social skills is autism or not shows any lack knowledge about this topic. You are like a blackpill npc who will deny anything and everything and claim"looks only" looks only"
its like talking to a robot

Unless you are some sort of barely functioning turbo autist your personality is not going to be the main factor. Most socially successful dudes are nothing special personality wise, they're not super interesting or anything they talk about the same boring shit as everyone else, however they get treated with a lot more respect due to their looks.

Yeah, except we have a lot of these, self admitted on the forum.
You have still not denied the problem of blaming your looks on every area of your life. Unless you are a 1/10 truecel, this excuse is just a cucked soyboy thing to say.

How do you deal with the fact that SEVERAL people here are too high inhib to talk on VC in a fucking incel discord.
How the fuck are they gonna talk or approach a woman?

 

[Personalityinkwell]

You confuse being a social and charismatic person with "jestermaxxing"
Also just fucking lol thinking your social circle is equally distributed to your looks, thats the cringiest thing ive ever heard. I bet a lot of people here are uglier yet have more friends than @Weed and orb
Also thinking the only critera for bad social skills is autism or not shows any lack knowledge about this topic. You are like a blackpill npc who will deny anything and everything and claim"looks only" looks only"
its like talking to a robot

most people who talk about social skills can't really put into detail what they are. The best advice I've seen across all these forums, or in general, in increasing social success is to just improve looks. Saying "NT maxx" doesn't really give any help.

 

[Ropemaxx]

Unless you're steroid tier gymmaxxing wont even really be noticeable through your clothes, the main thing is frame, wide shoulders and thick arm bones. People often mistake wide shoulders for being in shape, but its not its bone structure.

It can help to some extent, particularly if you want to ogremaxx, but it wont make a massive difference in dating really.

Oh. What a suprise. Gymming wont even be noticable no reason to even try
you can very much improve you shoulder to waist ratio, and get bigger and more attractive arms. I will never claim this will make a truecel ascend, but it will boost your smv if you are in the 5-6 range(which some people are)
Im not advocating any maxxing or NT maxxing to any truecel here. There is a reason for that

Orb has legit autism, we already said this was an excuse. We are talking about social skills of people without autism.

gigacope, you think this dude has a shit body and will be held back in terms of getting one night stands?
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This dude is LEAN, but NOT JACKED. He will do just fine

hmm? just a strawman overall? Ofcourse a 8/10 chad will do fine? are you trolling me?
also he bodymogs 99% of this forum anyway

 

[GoffSystemQB]

too high inhib to talk on VC in a fucking incel discord.

Those people probably have autism tbh.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

hmm? just a strawman overall? Ofcourse a 8/10 chad will do fine? are you trolling me?
also he bodymogs 99% of this forum anyway

how do you know he's a Chad? You can barely see his face.

And I doubt he bodymogs 99% of the forum, there are a lot of gymcels here

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

We need to stop coping with the importance of being NT. If you are non NT and sub7, there is no chance for you, until that is fixed.

A lot of incels are incels because they have extremely bad social skills. Awkward, high inhib, cant make friends(thats a personality problem not a looks problem in 99% of cases). Your neurotransmitters repel people. You dont exclude happiness or any good feelings. You look in the ground and have a negative depressed high inhib aura. You are indecisive and lack social awareness.
You describe making friends as painful and extremely high effort, or even impossible. (that means you are socially awkward and very non NT)

Your conversations are awkward. You are even too high inhib to talk on voice chat in a discord channel full of loser virgin incels. (if this is you, you are with 99% certainty a mentalcel and would still be incel even if you were a 6,5/10).



Why do i get the same answer 95% of the time when i ask if someone here is high inhib? 95% of the time the answer is yes, while in the normal population its much rarer.
Being high inhib IS NOT NORMAL.

I dont even think this is a non brutal pill to swallow, because i think NT generally comes from a bad upbringing without positive reinforcement, and could potentially be harder to fix than even looks.

Diagnosed non NTcel here and can confirm. You have a litteralitteral AURA of awkwardness and it just feels like people are conspiring together to keep you out. For foids you simply are a non-sexual being. This Is What also a gay dude friend of mine told me. He liked me since he is male and obv it's nearly impossible to be an incel when men do the selection however he honestly told me: "You look like a sexless mountain man"

 

[Ropemaxx]

most people who talk about social skills can't really put into detail what they are. The best advice I've seen across all these forums, or in general, in increasing social success is to just improve looks. Saying "NT maxx" doesn't really give any help.

We dont need to know how to improve it to say its a problem.
@GoffSystemQB perfectly explained bad social skill atleast. and so did i
also people are too high inhib to talk on VC in a fucking incel discord. thats a massive redflag for calling urself a truecel.

how do you know he's a Chad? You can't see his face.

And I doubt he bodymogs 99% of the forum, there are a lot of gymcels here

ive seen his online dating experiment. cope he still bodymogs 99% of the forum
majority are not gymcels. and i dont know if most gymcels got an aestethic body anyway?

Those people probably have autism tbh.

There is a thing called social anxiety or high inhib or just being very shy.
If you cant talk to other ugly losers who are high inhib on a voice chat, you are anything but NT

 

[Personalityinkwell]

ive seen his online dating experiment. cope he still bodymogs 99% of the forum
majority are not gymcels. and i dont know if most gymcels got an aestethic body anyway?

You think that dude is jacked? His arms are definitely not that big. The reason he looks good is because of those abs, which come from being lean

 

[LastGerman]

I don't understand those too afraid to talk in a discord server lol

Brutal voice pill.

 

[Ropemaxx]

Those people are high inhib because they're ugly. High inhib is a learned trait due to being treated poorly by people. They likely never stood a chance even if they did approach women.

And no charismatic and jestermaxxing are different. Chad doesn't have to put on a show to entertain people, the fat guy doing dumb shit and self deprecating for others entertainment is jestermaxxing.

Weed got laid so clearly he's doing better than most of the uglier members on this site. Don't know anything about orb, I'm guessing he's a giga-autist, but that's an extreme case.

its not an extreme case. read the OP again. being too high inhib to talk on VC in a fucking incel discord is bottom 1% in NT
if you too high inhib to talk on VC in a fucking incel discord, you are AN EXTREME CASE

You seem to be one of those copers who's desperate to believe if he just lifts a lot and goes around forcing a blatantly fake low inhib attitude you'll make it one day. Same shit as PUA copers.

Not the case at all. I despise PUA.
You are on the opposite end of the spectrum tho. A blackpilled coper. Same shit different pills tbh

 

[AlexanderTheGreat11]

I'm NT

 

[sub8male]

im 24.
sorry but i will rather believe backed up data AND observation from my own experience than what some random sub8 theorist on a forum believes.

Do what you will. To me it just seems like tinder/tik toc have really ruined things for many men.

 

[Ropemaxx]

I mean not wanting to talk in VC is probably just dudes being worried about getting doxxed.wouldn't talk in an incel discord.

They said they are too high inhib. Multiple people told me, inkwell can confirm this. They never said they were afraid too get doxxed(like they do when they dont wanna send pics)
Again you are changing the evidence to fit your world view. I notice you do this all the time. You didnt realize these guys were just too socially high inhib to talk on vc.
You otherwise seem to be a rational good thinking poster. The reason your getting so emotional and illogical is because im exposing a very comforting cope you keep telling yourself :blaming EVERYTHING in life on looks.

I'm NT

Imagine if you looked like @Weed, orb or @Personalityinkwell inkwell after some acne surgeries

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Notice a difference? the dude on the bottom really isn't that jacked, he's LEAN

 

[Ropemaxx]

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View attachment 241881

Notice a difference? the dude on the bottom really isn't that jacked, he's LEAN

Those 3 guys have way too overgymmed looking bodies.
anyway dont wanna turn this thread into "does gymbody matter or not"

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Those 3 guys have way too overgymmed looking bodies.

true

but the point is that the dude on the bottom isn't jacked, he has some muscle, but not a ton

 

[Personalityinkwell]

if you are in your looks range, why are you not doing everything to add to your smv? body is not cope on 5+/10 men
notice everytime we say body is cope we show 1/10 truecels with gymmaxxed bodies.

I am doing things, but I'm not gonna try and bulk like crazy, I'm gonna try for a more athletic body like the dude in the pic (also not gonna use roids, not that you recommended that anyway just saying).

 

[jet112]

girls don't give a fuck about your opinions.
NT helps yes, but its not gonna seal the deal

 

[Kirito3]

NT only matters to those in the middle of the spectrum (4-6). Irrelevant for rest. If you are sub4 its hard to stay NT however. Its an unrealistic expectation to be able to act normal when faced with a lifetime of bullying, ostracization, and rejection on both an individual and societal level.

 

[Ropemaxx]

NT only matters to those in the middle of the spectrum (4-6). Irrelevant for rest. If you are sub4 its hard to stay NT however. Its an unrealistic expectation to be able to act normal when faced with a lifetime of bullying, ostracization, and rejection on both an individual and societal level.

Ye tbh. Id argue it still matters for 7s and 8s. Not in the sense that the 8 wont get laid, but he wont get his looksmatch or be slaying as they should.
NT is definitely irrelevant for truecels who are sub4 and below. Its over for them

 

[MachineLearningcel]

NT is a factor of how "masculine" you are. An ogre who is NTmaxxed can run game similar to a fucking chadlite, but a skinny pastecel who tries to be NT will just be looked down upon.
It's an arena where projecting strength and dominance is rewarded a lot more than projecting looks, and that's where a lot of the naturally larger TRP folks run game. NT matters if you are tall and big but still incel (difficult but possible). If you are short, fucking give it up, It's useless and not for you

Small pretty boy -> benefits from NT
Ogremaxxed blackcel -> benefits from NT
Pastecel -> useless. Go SEAmaxx

 

[Personalityinkwell]

NT only matters to those in the middle of the spectrum (4-6). Irrelevant for rest. If you are sub4 its hard to stay NT however. Its an unrealistic expectation to be able to act normal when faced with a lifetime of bullying, ostracization, and rejection on both an individual and societal level.

Ye tbh. Id argue it still matters for 7s and 8s. Not in the sense that the 8 wont get laid, but he wont get his looksmatch or be slaying as they should.
NT is definitely irrelevant for truecels who are sub4 and below. Its over for them

I'd argue 4s and 5s are still screwed. at least in america where landwhales are the norm

NT matters if you're a 6-7 though.

 

[Kirito3]

I'd argue 4s and 5s are still screwed. at least in america where landwhales are the norm

NT matters if you're a 6-7 though.

4-5 can get by, especially given some sort of money or status. Remember, 5 is average. >50% of the male population still gets laid in America.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

4-5 can get by, especially given some sort of money or status. Remember, 5 is average. >50% of the male population still gets laid in America.

Yes, but how many are fucking landwhales or hookers?

 

[Kirito3]

Yes, but how many are fucking landwhales or hookers?

Landwhales actually provide companionship and validation. Its exponentially better than being alone. I didn't count prostitutes, if you did well over 80% of men are surely getting laid.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Landwhales actually provide companionship and validation. Its exponentially better than being alone

I would disagree

 

[To koniec]

We need to stop coping with the importance of being NT. If you are non NT and sub7, there is no chance for you, until that is fixed.

A lot of incels are incels because they have extremely bad social skills. Awkward, high inhib, cant make friends(thats a personality problem not a looks problem in 99% of cases). Your neurotransmitters repel people. You dont exclude happiness or any good feelings. You look in the ground and have a negative depressed high inhib aura. You are indecisive and lack social awareness.
You describe making friends as painful and extremely high effort, or even impossible. (that means you are socially awkward and very non NT)

Your conversations are awkward. You are even too high inhib to talk on voice chat in a discord channel full of loser virgin incels. (if this is you, you are with 99% certainty a mentalcel and would still be incel even if you were a 6,5/10).



Why do i get the same answer 95% of the time when i ask if someone here is high inhib? 95% of the time the answer is yes, while in the normal population its much rarer.
Being high inhib IS NOT NORMAL.

I dont even think this is a non brutal pill to swallow, because i think NT generally comes from a bad upbringing without positive reinforcement, and could potentially be harder to fix than even looks.

I was diagnosed with asperger by doctor which is not self diagnosed like some incels think that they're autistic. Beign non NT is worse because NT can be ugly short and will not fuck in any means, but at least can make friends, + autist have ''freak'' ''creep'' aura which they're often chosen as victim in school, workplace etc.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

This thread reminds me of this post.

I think people here are so concentrated on the initial attraction phase for a woman, and I don't blame them since trucels aren't even able to get passed this stage. But they completely forget or are unaware about the steps that come afterwards, which you MUST perform correctly to get anywhere with a woman. (inb4 gigachad doesn't have to do anything)

After the initial attraction, it is ALL NT. It is all about how you carry yourself in a conversation, and what your status is in the group. Yes, if you are gigachad you can get away with not doing this, but actual gigachads are VERY RARE. Regular Chad still has to show that he is NT and is able to talk to the foid. Keep in mind, the foid can literally get any type of Chad she wants though Tinder, so the way to separate the Chads is by social skills and status.

I've seen a Chad get completely rejected by a Stacy because he asked one of her friends if "she was ok". And she just went "ew", and completely disposed of him for caring about her because it was a sign of weakness.

Non NT is death. What difference does it make if you get rejected instantly by the foid, or get rejected after the 1st date when she sniffs out your autism.

Granted, OP didn't take it to the extreme and say only gigachad can get away with non NT, but using a random anecdote isn't strong enough to defy the science of lookism.

 

[Words2_live_bye]

We need to stop coping with the importance of being NT. If you are non NT and sub7, there is no chance for you, until that is fixed.

A lot of incels are incels because they have extremely bad social skills. Awkward, high inhib, cant make friends(thats a personality problem not a looks problem in 99% of cases). Your neurotransmitters repel people. You dont exclude happiness or any good feelings. You look in the ground and have a negative depressed high inhib aura. You are indecisive and lack social awareness.
You describe making friends as painful and extremely high effort, or even impossible. (that means you are socially awkward and very non NT)

Your conversations are awkward. You are even too high inhib to talk on voice chat in a discord channel full of loser virgin incels. (if this is you, you are with 99% certainty a mentalcel and would still be incel even if you were a 6,5/10).



Why do i get the same answer 95% of the time when i ask if someone here is high inhib? 95% of the time the answer is yes, while in the normal population its much rarer.
Being high inhib IS NOT NORMAL.

I dont even think this is a non brutal pill to swallow, because i think NT generally comes from a bad upbringing without positive reinforcement, and could potentially be harder to fix than even looks.

brutal because i'm a a 3/10 and have autism plus social anxiety

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Based post by that guy.

Anyway There is lookism science, but also NT science.

He claims an 8/10 guy could suffer from mentalceldom.

jfl

 

[Ropemaxx]

Being NT is a prerequisite for sub8men. I dont know why this topic is so controversial for some.