Serious Noticing some rather bluepilled things going on in this forum.

[ordinaryotaku]

First off, I'm seeing a lot of people calling 5/10 normie/average looking men Chad, or basically any guy that is pretty much average looking or even Chadlite. That bothers me, because they're not Chad, this is Chad:

A 5/10 male has nowhere near the SMV of a Chad either.

Secondly, onto this topic I'm seeing people say that normie/average tier men can slay. The reality is that they can get little women, AND they really have to scrape their hands at the bottom of the shit barrel. Most normie men aren't satisfied by their women. They will never get their looksmatch, always far worse. I never ever see average guys with girlfriends either way. Last time I saw an average guy with a non-hambeast or non-ugly woman was like six years ago. I'm out for ~5-7 hours a day in college.

I honestly think some people should stop this way of thinking. It's going well into bluepilled CuckTears territory and it should honestly be a ban or a warn on sight tbh (I'm an advocate of free speech, but I don't want this forum becoming more bluepilled. This forum is literally one of the only sites I can use to talk with like minded people).

 

[Deleted member 16455]

This should be proof of JBW tbh. Average looking WHITE males and average looking WHITE females are getting rated chad and Stacy respectively. JFL

 

[ordinaryotaku]

This should be proof of JBW tbh. Average looking WHITE males and average looking WHITE females are getting rated chad and Stacy respectively. JFL

Being white is just a halo effect to deathniks tbh. Average white guys can only get the bottom of the shit barrel.

 

[Incellectual]

A lot of users on this site suck at rating tbh.

 

[ordinaryotaku]

A lot of users on this site suck at rating tbh.

Honestly, if everyone used the "harsh" genuine PSL scale that Lookism uses, it would be far less bluepilled sounding.

 

[Incellectual]

Honestly, if everyone used the "harsh" genuine PSL scale that Lookism uses, it would be far less bluepilled sounding.

tbh the general sites ratings of men will always be off in some way. I find people in general are either way too harsh or way too lax when rating looks.

 

[michael2222]

tbh the general sites ratings of men will always be off in some way. I find people in general are either way too harsh or way too lax when rating looks.

Because everyone has a preference. Big noses may turn some people off way more then others.

Some people like my sister worship white skin and blue eyes

 

[Deleted member 17997]

Being white is just a halo effect to deathniks tbh. Average white guys can only get the bottom of the shit barrel.

Also who are these "people"?

 

[DaveBuster]

The reality is that they can get little women, AND they really have to scrape their hands at the bottom of the shit barrel. Most normie men aren't satisfied by their women.

tbh

It's classic betabuxxing. They get some landwhale with a gender studies degree who needs someone who'll put her on his insurance policy to subsidize the 10 different anti-depressants, uppers, downers, and sidewayers she takes to keep her from having to face her worthless existence for what it is. It must be a horror show, a wise wizard is much happier, but some guys just can't handle the thought. They need to be able to tell themselves "At least I'm not an inkel. I pass in normie society, I'm allowed into the flock, I get a handjob on my birthday and if I close my eyes and plug my ears, I can even cum".

 

[Looksmaxxcel]

Being white is just a halo effect to deathniks tbh. Average white guys can only get the bottom of the shit barrel.

Just imagine how irredeemably over it must be for deathniks then.
God, shits completely fucked for men. We need a hard reset.

 

[Ricecel]

Just imagine how irredeemably over it must be for deathniks then.
God, shits completely fucked for men. We need a hard reset.

 

[StaroRavager]

I'm seeing people say that normie/average tier men can slay. The reality is that they can get little women, AND they really have to scrape their hands at the bottom of the shit barrel. Most normie men aren't satisfied by their women. They will never get their looksmatch, always far worse. I never ever see average guys with girlfriends either way. Last time I saw an average guy with a non-hambeast or non-ugly woman was like six years ago. I'm out for ~5-7 hours a day in college.

I’m not saying that normies slay, but this sounds like some sort of argument a fakecel/“mentalcel” would put out

 

[mylifeistrash]

First off, I'm seeing a lot of people calling 5/10 normie/average looking men Chad, or basically any guy that is pretty much average looking or even Chadlite. That bothers me, because they're not Chad, this is Chad:

A 5/10 male has nowhere near the SMV of a Chad either.

Secondly, onto this topic I'm seeing people say that normie/average tier men can slay. The reality is that they can get little women, AND they really have to scrape their hands at the bottom of the shit barrel. Most normie men aren't satisfied by their women. They will never get their looksmatch, always far worse. I never ever see average guys with girlfriends either way. Last time I saw an average guy with a non-hambeast or non-ugly woman was like six years ago. I'm out for ~5-7 hours a day in college.

I honestly think some people should stop this way of thinking. It's going well into bluepilled CuckTears territory and it should honestly be a ban or a warn on sight tbh (I'm an advocate of free speech, but I don't want this forum becoming more bluepilled. This forum is literally one of the only sites I can use to talk with like minded people).

Even more retarded is the "just bro NT" which is just rehashed PUA lingo.

Second reason, anyone who has a lot of social anxiety is ugly and fears getting embarrassed in public because it happened before.

tldr; blame everything but your looks

 

[Deleted member 1252]

This is what sub-8 theory is about. Stupid people don’t understand it, though.

This should be proof of JBW tbh. Average looking WHITE males and average looking WHITE females are getting rated chad and Stacy respectively. JFL

On this note, mentioning JBW should be a warning or ban if repeat offender. It’s bluepilled retardation on an incredible level. Anyone who believes in it is a massive cuck feminist.

 

[Animecel2D]

It’s probably because in comparison with our appearance normies look like chad

 

[Angry_runt]

Secondly, onto this topic I'm seeing people say that normie/average tier men can slay. The reality is that they can get little women, AND they really have to scrape their hands at the bottom of the shit barrel.

But they do have girlfriends and can have sex a hundred times per year. There is no reason a young foid would be in a relationship with a young guy unless she wants to have sex with him. None.

Most normie men aren't satisfied by their women.

Most people aren't satisfied, period. When you reach some goal there's always something more to strive for. So yeah, they'd prefer a hotter girlfriend but I can bet none of those normies would trade places with us.

They will never get their looksmatch, always far worse. I never ever see average guys with girlfriends either way. Last time I saw an average guy with a non-hambeast or non-ugly woman was like six years ago. I'm out for ~5-7 hours a day in college.

I see average guys with looksmatched girlfriends all the time. I could post a hundred pics of them too but I'd be warned about "cherrypicking".
That is not to say the average normie has a girlfriend all the time, but even having a girlfriend for six months every five years means he'll have had sex hundreds of times by the time he's 30. It's not much compared to Chad but infinitely more than any incel. That's why incels don't want to let virgins here and call out fakecels who say they've had any sexual experience. There's a qualitative difference between incels and someone who's had a girlfriend once, we're not alike at all.

Another thing about normies is self improvement does work for them because they have a base of attractiveness to build on. If they can get a girlfriend who's 3/10, they'll be able to get a girlfriend who's 5/10 with some effort. And getting a girlfriend means having sex at least 2-3 times a week, 100-150 times a year. Believing anything else is coping in its most deluded form.

I honestly think some people should stop this way of thinking.

I think incels should stop deluding themselves that we're kinda like normies. We're not. A normie is closer to chad than to us in terms of sexual experience. A normie is average, but we're not. We're the bottom howevermany percent. With foid standards rising there will be more incels and one day the average man will be an incel... but that's not happening yet.

 

[Shower_Taker]

With regards to the whole “5/10s are similar to Chad / can slay” mentality, I think that happens because people like to cherry pick those rare occasions in which they see an average guy with a babe and make him out to be some sort of working class hero in their minds. Our brains don’t like the concept of outliers, and would rather simplify an isolated case and, in our case, give us a little hope - your brain wants you alive, after all.

I’d say that in the West, these examples truly are outliers. I’ve seen 5s, 6s, even 7s struggling with girls and trying really hard just to end up with someone 3 points below their league (or, what would be their league if you remove supply & demand).

Not so much in the rest of the world, however.
Where I’m from, I get pissed a lot - a ton of guys objectively uglier than me doing fine with hot women because they’ve got social / personality game. It might be similar in other parts of the world. Unfortunately for me, locationceling doesn’t work in my favor because, as ugly as I am, I have an even worse personality and 0/10 social status / game.

 

[Insomniac]

Most people on this site can’t rate for shit

 

[AsiaCel]

I'm gonna play the devil advocate here but people have different preference especially men, sure people here can't rate for shit but goingby PSL standards a truly GL man is rare and is irrelevant to daily life because of how rare he is.

If a chadlite is doing successfully with women no doubt he would be branded a chad here.

JM might even be told to rope judging by his side profile but irl that's not the case

 

[Angry_runt]

JM might even be told to rope judging by his side profile but irl that's not the case

Holy shit, I guess that disproves the notion that you're only as attractive as your worst angle.
Tbh even from this angle he still easily mogs me but at least we look like we're of the same species.

 

[Deleted member 16455]

Being white is just a halo effect to deathniks tbh. Average white guys can only get the bottom of the shit barrel.

True tbh

 

[LordDylan]

This should be proof of JBW tbh. Average looking WHITE males and average looking WHITE females are getting rated chad and Stacy respectively. JFL

I see more white incels.

I'm gonna play the devil advocate here but people have different preference especially men, sure people here can't rate for shit but goingby PSL standards a truly GL man is rare and is irrelevant to daily life because of how rare he is.

If a chadlite is doing successfully with women no doubt he would be branded a chad here.

JM might even be told to rope judging by his side profile but irl that's not the case

he still mogs me to oblivion.

 

[Vorbei]

It's classic betabuxxing. They get some landwhale with a gender studies degree who needs someone who'll put her on his insurance policy to subsidize the 10 different anti-depressants, uppers, downers, and sidewayers she takes to keep her from having to face her worthless existence for what it is. It must be a horror show, a wise wizard is much happier, but some guys just can't handle the thought. They need to be able to tell themselves "At least I'm not an inkel. I pass in normie society, I'm allowed into the flock, I get a handjob on my birthday and if I close my eyes and plug my ears, I can even cum".

This is beautiful. Being able to punch down at someone is a powerful cope, and a cope as old as time.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

anyone who has a lot of social anxiety is ugly and fears getting embarrassed in public because it happened before.

 

[Teutonic Knight]

But they do have girlfriends and can have sex a hundred times per year. There is no reason a young foid would be in a relationship with a young guy unless she wants to have sex with him. None.

Like you said, young guy. Normies get to experience certain things until they're like early 20s. Late 20s their options decrease dramatically and a lot of them end up in some sort of inceldom or desperate betabuxxing.

The difference between an incel and normie is that normie experienced some sort of romantic relationship when he was around 20 years old or younger.

Once you're above 25, you're either a Chad or some sort of incel/betabuxxer. Normies end up in the same boat as incels but they're better off mentally because at least they got to experience some validation in their youth.

 

[ordinaryotaku]

With regards to the whole “5/10s are similar to Chad / can slay” mentality, I think that happens because people like to cherry pick those rare occasions in which they see an average guy with a babe and make him out to be some sort of working class hero in their minds. Our brains don’t like the concept of outliers, and would rather simplify an isolated case and, in our case, give us a little hope - your brain wants you alive, after all.

I’d say that in the West, these examples truly are outliers. I’ve seen 5s, 6s, even 7s struggling with girls and trying really hard just to end up with someone 3 points below their league (or, what would be their league if you remove supply & demand).

Tbh same. Like I said, I haven't seen a normie with their looksmatch except on a couple rare occasions and, the last time I saw it sporadically was a bit after Tinder came out, before it ever hit peak popularity.

Not so much in the rest of the world, however.
Where I’m from, I get pissed a lot - a ton of guys objectively uglier than me doing fine with hot women because they’ve got social / personality game. It might be similar in other parts of the world. Unfortunately for me, locationceling doesn’t work in my favor because, as ugly as I am, I have an even worse personality and 0/10 social status / game.

I can agree with you on this one. Wouldn't be surprised if this was the case in other countries where people still adhere to traditional social standards like Eastern Europe and the Middle East. But I feel like if those countries start have women who start using dating apps/hookup apps on a mass scale, they're going to be unrecognizable.

 

[Modus Coperandi]

Wouldn't be surprised if this was the case in other countries where people still adhere to traditional social standards like Eastern Europe and the Middle East. But I feel like if those countries start have women who start using dating apps/hookup apps on a mass scale, they're going to be unrecognizable.

the degeneracy is already spreading in those countries. bro 90% of european prostitutes are ee

 

[Jog Mansen]

yeah even normies and chadlites get fucked over, eventually most chads will get fucked over by foids too as whores standards get higher and higher, if you are normie or chadlite all you will get are bitchy, feminist drug addled land-whales who divorce you for everything

 

[Deleted member 14382]

First off, I'm seeing a lot of people calling 5/10 normie/average looking men Chad, or basically any guy that is pretty much average looking or even Chadlite. That bothers me, because they're not Chad, this is Chad:

A 5/10 male has nowhere near the SMV of a Chad either.

Secondly, onto this topic I'm seeing people say that normie/average tier men can slay. The reality is that they can get little women, AND they really have to scrape their hands at the bottom of the shit barrel. Most normie men aren't satisfied by their women. They will never get their looksmatch, always far worse. I never ever see average guys with girlfriends either way. Last time I saw an average guy with a non-hambeast or non-ugly woman was like six years ago. I'm out for ~5-7 hours a day in college.

I honestly think some people should stop this way of thinking. It's going well into bluepilled CuckTears territory and it should honestly be a ban or a warn on sight tbh (I'm an advocate of free speech, but I don't want this forum becoming more bluepilled. This forum is literally one of the only sites I can use to talk with like minded people).

Exactly. I'm tired of people claiming that normie-looking and high tier incels are Chad. I've even heard a couple of people calling Elliot Rodger "good-looking", lol.

 

[Deleted member 17599]

This should be proof of JBW tbh. Average looking WHITE males and average looking WHITE females are getting rated chad and Stacy respectively. JFL

No, it's only because the rater is retarded. Sub 8 theory is legit for all races.

 

[Deleted member 16455]

No, it's only because the rater is retarded. Sub 8 theory is legit for all races.

Prob. I agree more with sub 6 tbh

 

[ordinaryotaku]

Exactly. I'm tired of people claiming that normie-looking and high tier incels are Chad. I've even heard a couple of people calling Elliot Rodger "good-looking", lol.

He was decent looking, but he was a HAPA manlet, so it pretty much voids that. I feel like foids view non-Chad mixed men as lower and defective.

 

[Deleted member 18214]

Faggots on braincels banned me. Like I always said sub 8 = incel spectrum

 

[Angry_runt]

Like you said, young guy. Normies get to experience certain things until they're like early 20s. Late 20s their options decrease dramatically and a lot of them end up in some sort of inceldom or desperate betabuxxing.

Not according to this graph that we've accepted as gospel truth.

The point I was making is that pretty much every guy who's had a girlfriend or a fiance in his teens and twenties was fucking her 2-5 times a week. Foids wouldn't be with them if they didn't want to fuck, because they already out-earn guys in their 20s. So if you know a normie who's had a girlfriend for a year, count how many times he's likely to have had sex.

The difference between an incel and normie is that normie experienced some sort of romantic relationship when he was around 20 years old or younger.Once you're above 25, you're either a Chad or some sort of incel/betabuxxer. Normies end up in the same boat as incels but they're better off mentally because at least they got to experience some validation in their youth.

Refer to the graph above and stop coping. We're nothing like normies, that's why we don't allow normies here.

 

[virgin4life]

Sub8 theory is true and JBW is bullshit.

 

[KingOfRome]

Here are some other bluepills with a black coat of paint:

Dark triad theory

Low inhib theory

NT theory

Thugmaxx theory

 

[Deleted member 677]

Honestly, if everyone used the "harsh" genuine PSL scale that Lookism uses, it would be far less bluepilled sounding.

PSL is gay as fuck.

 

[KingOfRome]

This should be proof of JBW tbh. Average looking WHITE males and average looking WHITE females are getting rated chad and Stacy respectively. JFL

It's actually proof of non-white cognitive inferiority

 

[ordinaryotaku]

PSL is gay as fuck.

A lot of the people who "claim" to use it judge too harshly or too lightly, but I think it's pretty accurate for the most part.

 

[TheReaper]

Sub8 theory is a retarded theory, having its base supporters fakecels and larpers because it prevents them from being busted, Because I will be treated the same by girls if I were a 7 instead of a 5 or a 3, we are all sub8 AMIRITE FELLOW INCELS????
quote from @averageblokecel

 

[ordinaryotaku]

Sub8 theory is a retarded theory, having its base supporters fakecels and larpers because it prevents them from being busted, Because I will be treated the same by girls if I were a 7 instead of a 5 or a 3, we are all sub8 AMIRITE FELLOW INCELS????
quote from @averageblokecel

I don't agree with sub-8 theory, but it is prevalent of some places in the west. When I lived near the city in Texas, it was very much prevalent there. The only people who got loving, genuine, lasting relationships were the better looking guys. Anyone below a 6 didn't have a girlfriend, but everyone who was an 8+ did. There were still 6s and 7s who didn't have girlfriends.

I agree with sub-6 theory. If you're below a 6/10, you're subhuman to women. Saying that 5s can get a good relationship or a lasting girlfriend is fucking stupid, maybe a lucky drunk fuck or a pity fuck but that's it.

 

[ShyManlet]

as ugly as I am, I have an even worse personality and 0/10 social status / game.

Huh...I wouldnt have guessed that, all your post are high IQ as fuck man...
props to you for being one of the few quality poster here..

can I ask what country you live in btw

 

[Shower_Taker]

Huh...I wouldnt have guessed that, all your post are high IQ as fuck man...
props to you for being one of the few quality poster here..

can I ask what country you live in btw

Thanks man, although I fear I can come across as a bit pretentious online.

I’m from South America, but have resided and hold dual citizenship in a 1st world country. I don’t give out specific details for fear of exposure.

 

[ShyManlet]

Thanks man, although I fear I can come across as a bit pretentious online.

I’m from South America, but have resided and hold dual citizenship in a 1st world country. I don’t give out specific details for fear of exposure.

Nah you dont come as pretentious at all, I read a lot of your post

Where I’m from, I get pissed a lot - a ton of guys objectively uglier than me doing fine with hot women because they’ve got social / personality game.

I thought South America is pretty damn degenerate, and as been said here a lot, the more sex foid have with chad, the higher the divorce rate, foid are less likely to settle with their looksmatch etc etc. But the men there have no problem dating up using personality game...???

I wonder why you cant pull this shit in the west and euro though...

 

[Deleted member 11032]

Honestly, if everyone used the "harsh" genuine PSL scale that Lookism uses, it would be far less bluepilled sounding.

What does PSL stand for?

yeah even normies and chadlites get fucked over, eventually most chads will get fucked over by foids too as whores standards get higher and higher, if you are normie or chadlite all you will get are bitchy, feminist drug addled land-whales who divorce you for everything

Truth!

tbh

It's classic betabuxxing. They get some landwhale with a gender studies degree who needs someone who'll put her on his insurance policy to subsidize the 10 different anti-depressants, uppers, downers, and sidewayers she takes to keep her from having to face her worthless existence for what it is. It must be a horror show, a wise wizard is much happier, but some guys just can't handle the thought. They need to be able to tell themselves "At least I'm not an inkel. I pass in normie society, I'm allowed into the flock, I get a handjob on my birthday and if I close my eyes and plug my ears, I can even cum".

High iq.

Where I’m from, I get pissed a lot - a ton of guys objectively uglier than me doing fine with hot women because they’ve got social / personality game.

Nice subtle brag there.

Like you said, young guy. Normies get to experience certain things until they're like early 20s. Late 20s their options decrease dramatically and a lot of them end up in some sort of inceldom or desperate betabuxxing.

The difference between an incel and normie is that normie experienced some sort of romantic relationship when he was around 20 years old or younger.

Once you're above 25, you're either a Chad or some sort of incel/betabuxxer. Normies end up in the same boat as incels but they're better off mentally because at least they got to experience some validation in their youth.

 

[ordinaryotaku]

What does PSL stand for?

PUAhate/Sluthate/Lookism.

 

[Michael15651]

This should be punishable.

 

[NormieKiller]

Exactly. I'm tired of people claiming that normie-looking and high tier incels are Chad. I've even heard a couple of people calling Elliot Rodger "good-looking", lol.

ER was gross looking, but he had the means to improve his looks.

 

[Shower_Taker]

Nice subtle brag there.

Ok maybe not a “ton” - it’s the 3rd world though, a 5/10 from America would be a 7 here. Low average looks for men in general.