Blackpill Do you think non being born is better than being born MTN or lower in looks as a male?

[ndltn]

I honestly would rather have it all than be born in the first place. If you're genuinely HTN in looks or above, you live in paradise. The world is unfathomably good and they suffer 1000x less than a truecel.

I would even go far as to say that I would rather not be born at all than be born MTN, or average/slightly above average in looks. It's true that they live better lives than truecels, but it's nothing compared to the life quality of HTN+. You will never be the first choice to foids, they would be thirsting for an attractive bona fide HTN while keeping you in a perpetual state of being 'friends', along with other normie men, as a backup plan for if she cannot attract Chad.

You will be consistently blueballed and rendered as an orbiter for a foid, foids intentionally create a roster of normie male friends as a strategy to attain the highest possible SMV male far beyond her looksmatch.

It is a cruel and brutal game of bones where multiple normie men compete and those who don't meet the looks criteria are brutally played and friendzoned with their time wasted and mental state wrecked, even when their genetic looks are higher than that of the foid.

There are significant benefits to being normie however, you can actually make friends assuming you're NT and not manlet, you will avoid brutal bullying most truecels experienced and you won't receive subhuman treatment like truecels do for every social interaction. But the cons I listed prior incline me to prefer non existence to being born normie.

Do you guys agree? Or would you prefer being born as a NT MTN average height jack of all trades over non existence?

 

[DJmaxxingMusicCel]

The only good life actually worth being born into there is when you have hyperthymia without any illnesses and defects and are born a gigastacy or gigachad.

 

[darweesh]

The painful part of being an incel, in my view, isn't the lack of love—it's the constant negative emotions.

More than anything, I just wish for a life free from bullying, humiliation, and endless problems, with some form of validation and acceptance, even if it never comes from women (no homo).

 

[Izayacel]

How about restraining woman and force her to be " down there " man loose because they bootlick woman litteraly and have this Internal Protector Bias .

God my hate is showing eh

 

[Izayacel]

Man could flip the switch , absolute Chaos would break loose if we gave every guy some Heaps of our brains

 

[Izayacel]

Man could flip the switch , absolute Chaos would break loose if we gave every guy some Heaps of our brains

@TooSomething @AtrociousCitizen @GeckoBus @Lonly ghost @VersoffenerAssi @Skoga

 

[TellMomImGone]

If I am born at least I cant help HTNs to get their Stacies easier, money opens door my friend, but not for us.

 

[ndltn]

The only good life actually worth being born into there is when you have hyperthymia without any illnesses and defects and are born a gigastacy or gigachad.

HTN+ = good life worth living. I remember when I was young boomers would venerate IQ as the most important variable for happiness in life jfl, but there's no point of being high IQ if you're sub5 in looks.

 

[SubhumanOldcel]

100% ,HTN tallfag is bare minimum nowadays.

 

[parbate2025]

I honestly would rather have it all than be born in the first place. If you're genuinely HTN in looks or above, you live in paradise. The world is unfathomably good and they suffer 1000x less than a truecel.

I would even go far as to say that I would rather not be born at all than be born MTN, or average/slightly above average in looks. It's true that they live better lives than truecels, but it's nothing compared to the life quality of HTN+. You will never be the first choice to foids, they would be thirsting for an attractive bona fide HTN while keeping you in a perpetual state of being 'friends', along with other normie men, as a backup plan for if she cannot attract Chad.

You will be consistently blueballed and rendered as an orbiter for a foid, foids intentionally create a roster of normie male friends as a strategy to attain the highest possible SMV male far beyond her looksmatch.

It is a cruel and brutal game of bones where multiple normie men compete and those who don't meet the looks criteria are brutally played and friendzoned with their time wasted and mental state wrecked, even when their genetic looks are higher than that of the foid.

There are significant benefits to being normie however, you can actually make friends assuming you're NT and not manlet, you will avoid brutal bullying most truecels experienced and you won't receive subhuman treatment like truecels do for every social interaction. But the cons I listed prior incline me to prefer non existence to being born normie.

Do you guys agree? Or would you prefer being born as a NT MTN average height jack of all trades over non existence?

Yes, life starts at MTN

 

[TooSomething]

If we weren't born at all and only MTNs would exist as the lowest class, then they'd simply be the lowest class and the new incels.

So, being born as an MTN you'd still be the lowest member of soyciety.

Foids would simply set the bar higher, which they already do anyway.

 

[DJmaxxingMusicCel]

HTN+ = good life worth living. I remember when I was young boomers would venerate IQ as the most important variable for happiness in life jfl, but there's no point of being high IQ if you're sub5 in looks.

7'0 is at minimum a good life worth living, both to lower the chance of authoritarian adult retards abusing you during your childhood and to have a chance to get foid attention.

 

[Izayacel]

7'0 is at minimum a good life worth living, both to lower the chance of authoritarian adult retards abusing you during your childhood and to have a chance to get foid attention.

7 0 is inhuman tier , absolute rarity . if you run around and being 7 0 you mostly got it made if your somewhat NT

 

[DJmaxxingMusicCel]

7 0 is inhuman tier , absolute rarity . if you run around and being 7 0 you mostly got it made if your somewhat NT

At 7'0, you would get away with being severely ND.

 

[shyloser]

Not being born is always better

 

[PLS HALP ME]

I never wanted to be born, this life is shit.

 

[PLS HALP ME]

Not being born is always better

 

[PLS HALP ME]

7 0 is inhuman tier , absolute rarity . if you run around and being 7 0 you mostly got it made if your somewhat NT

I am 1.50 meters tall.

 

[Izayacel]

I am 1.50 meters tall.

wtf ??? complete over .

 

[PLS HALP ME]

wtf ??? complete over .

never started

 

[Izayacel]

never started

how old are you ? , man im 5 8 ands its fucked that nigger @TooSomething is 6 2 or 6 3 and hes fucked ( Face , low NT issue most likely ) . imean wtf . Woman need to be regulated already .

 

[TooSomething]

how old are you ? , man im 5 8 ands its fucked that nigger @TooSomething is 6 2 or 6 3 and hes fucked ( Face , low NT issue most likely ) . imean wtf . Woman need to be regulated already .

My face and scoliosis are the biggest problem I would say, at first glance.

The small dick they cannot see immediately, but it is obviousely bothering me should I manage to get a foid.

Other problems are my jaw and also teeth lately.
Hair is still there. While I am NT I have some autistic traits / tendencies and I unfortunately have mental issues from lots of bullying in my school days.

Evwn when I did not have these issues as a teencel, I could not manage to ascend.

None of the issues were as bad when I was a teencel, even the face wasn't.

Puberty has fucked that up for me and since my jaw has not developed properly I have issues with my lower teeth being crowded.

Might have to get a surgery because of it.

It sucks.

 

[Izayacel]

My face and scoliosis are the biggest problem I would say, at first glance.

The small dick they cannot see immediately, but it is obviousely bothering me should I manage to get a foid.

Other problems are my jaw and also teeth lately.
Hair is still there. While I am NT I have some autistic traits / tendencies and I unfortunately have mental issues from lots of bullying in my school days.

Evwn when I did not have these issues as a teencel, I could not manage to ascend.

None of the issues were as bad when I was a teencel, even the face wasn't.

Puberty has fucked that up for me and since my jaw has not developed properly I have issues with my lower teeth being crowded.

Might have to get a surgery because of it.

It sucks.

scoliosis , ne wirbelsäule verengung / verkrümmung . wie fühlt sich die scheise an hab oft gelesen das du eher auf dem boden schläfst . Genetisches unglück ohne grund i guess .

 

[TooSomething]

scoliosis , ne wirbelsäule verengung / verkrümmung . wie fühlt sich die scheise an hab oft gelesen das du eher auf dem boden schläfst . Genetisches unglück ohne grund i guess .

Verdrehung und Kruemmung. Sehr nervig weil man das die ganze Zeit fuehlt, wenn man Sport macht, einfach nur sitzt, steht irgendwo mit dem Ruecken lehnt.

Man kann auch nicht gleich angenehm auf beiden Seiten liegen.

Da ein Ungleichgewicht besteht passt sich der Rest des Koerpers an, also die Muskeln.

Du hast eben ein staendiges Ungleichgewicht und deshalb passt sich der Koerper an.

Aber auf Dauer kriegst du eben einseitige Belastungen und auch Schaeden in den Gelenken.

Das ist bei mir der Fall. Leute mit Scoliose haben auch einen schwaecheren da instabilen Ruecken. Sie koennen und sollten auch nicht so schwer heben.

Man ist im Prinzip behindert und je extremer die Auspraegung ist desto extremer auch die Behinderung.

Ich hab bereits Probleme mit dem Hals, deshalb.

Wie lange ich es noch machen werde ohne Ops weiß ich nicht. Schwer zu sagen.

Ich hab ja auch noch einen flachen unteren Ruecken, also keine natuerliche S-Kurve der Wirbelsaeule, wenn man von der Seite guckt.

Ich vermute bei mir, dass mein Wachstum auch nicht natuerlich war, weil der Großteil meiner Familie eben nicht so groß ist.

Hormonell hab ich da ein Problem, aber weiß nicht was das bedeutet und der Arzt konnte mir da auch nichts zu sagen. Es koennte was damit zu tun haben warum ich so groß bin aber meine Haende, Fueße usw. fuer meine Groeße unterentwickelt sind.

Es ist nun einmal wirklich so, dass ich eher aussehe wir ein großer Junge, aber nicht wie ein großer Mann und das mit 40.

Kaputte Gene eben. Beide meine Eltern haben kein besonders gesundes Leben gefuehrt und deren Eltern auch nicht, und sie haben aich trotzdem entschieden mich zu zeigen.

Ich muss staendig gewisse Uebungen machen weil es sonst noch schlimmer wird, aber den genetischen Schaden krieg ich nicht weg.

Es ist alles ermuedent.

 

[Izayacel]

Verdrehung und Kruemmung. Sehr nervig weil man das die ganze Zeit fuehlt, wenn man Sport macht, einfach nur sitzt, steht irgendwo mit dem Ruecken lehnt.

Man kann auch nicht gleich angenehm auf beiden Seiten liegen.

Da ein Ungleichgewicht besteht passt sich der Rest des Koerpers an, also die Muskeln.

Du hast eben ein staendiges Ungleichgewicht und deshalb passt sich der Koerper an.

Aber auf Dauer kriegst du eben einseitige Belastungen und auch Schaeden in den Gelenken.

Das ist bei mir der Fall. Leute mit Scoliose haben auch einen schwaecheren da instabilen Ruecken. Sie koennen und sollten auch nicht so schwer heben.

Man ist im Prinzip behindert und je extremer die Auspraegung ist desto extremer auch die Behinderung.

Ich hab bereits Probleme mit dem Hals, deshalb.

Wie lange ich es noch machen werde ohne Ops weiß ich nicht. Schwer zu sagen.

Ich hab ja auch noch einen flachen unteren Ruecken, also keine natuerliche S-Kurve der Wirbelsaeule, wenn man von der Seite guckt.

Ich vermute bei mir, dass mein Wachstum auch nicht natuerlich war, weil der Großteil meiner Familie eben nicht so groß ist.

Hormonell hab ich da ein Problem, aber weiß nicht was das bedeutet und der Arzt konnte mir da auch nichts zu sagen. Es koennte was damit zu tun haben warum ich so groß bin aber meine Haende, Fueße usw. fuer meine Groeße unterentwickelt sind.

Es ist nun einmal wirklich so, dass ich eher aussehe wir ein großer Junge, aber nicht wie ein großer Mann und das mit 40.

Kaputte Gene eben. Beide meine Eltern haben kein besonders gesundes Leben gefuehrt und deren Eltern auch nicht, und sie haben aich trotzdem entschieden mich zu zeigen.

Ich muss staendig gewisse Uebungen machen weil es sonst noch schlimmer wird, aber den genetischen Schaden krieg ich nicht weg.

Es ist alles ermuedent.

Shit , wie ich einfach asthma hatte ( das ding ist irgendwie fast weg " aus irgendnem grund ) aber ja Leben ist einfach glück . es gibt leute die haben 2 Köpfe like wtf .

 

[TooSomething]

Shit , wie ich einfach asthma hatte ( das ding ist irgendwie fast weg " aus irgendnem grund ) aber ja Leben ist einfach glück . es gibt leute die haben 2 Köpfe like wtf .

Asthma kann man wohl leichter heilen als das was ich habe. Viel leichter.
Mach dich mal schlau. Das geht.

Ich hab auch eine sehr starke Allergie. Draußen arbeiten oder gar mit offenen Fenster ist fuer mich toedlich.

Ich bin irgendwo froh, dass ich Arbeit in einem Lager bekommen habe.
Dort wird die Luft gereinigt bzw. gefiltert.

Ich trag auch eine Brille, was nicht viele wissen. Senkt nochmal meinem SMV, wenn dieser ueberhaupt noch vorhanden ist.

Ehrlich, wenn ich wenigstens nicht diese ganzen Probleme haette dann koennte ich mich mit Sexlosigkeit usw. noch arrangieren.

Aber schon seit Jahren ist mein Leben ein einziger Krampf. Staendig ist irgendwas.

Momentan cope ich mit Gitarre. Ist ein guter cope, wenn man Musik machen moechte.

 

[Izayacel]

Asthma kann man wohl leichter heilen als das was ich habe. Viel leichter.
Mach dich mal schlau. Das geht.

Ich hab auch eine sehr starke Allergie. Draußen arbeiten oder gar mit offenen Fenster ist fuer mich toedlich.

Ich bin irgendwo froh, dass ich Arbeit in einem Lager bekommen habe.
Dort wird die Luft gereinigt bzw. gefiltert.

Ich trag auch eine Brille, was nicht viele wissen. Senkt nochmal meinem SMV, wenn dieser ueberhaupt noch vorhanden ist.

Ehrlich, wenn ich wenigstens nicht diese ganzen Probleme haette dann koennte ich mich mit Sexlosigkeit usw. noch arrangieren.

Aber schon seit Jahren ist mein Leben ein einziger Krampf. Staendig ist irgendwas.

Momentan cope ich mit Gitarre. Ist ein guter cope, wenn man Musik machen moechte

na dann spiel gitattre , ich könnte propably piano spielen , aber ja zu viel zeit into dmc4 dante gesteckt kek

( der typ ist einfach ein giga muscle memory check tbh , wenn du nichts besseres zu tun hast hol dir dmc4 und ein trainer / mod und lerne den typ , kp hab den einfach gelernt lol )

 

[TooSomething]

na dann spiel gitattre , ich könnte propably piano spielen , aber ja zu viel zeit into dmc4 dante gesteckt kek

( der typ ist einfach ein giga muscle memory check tbh , wenn du nichts besseres zu tun hast hol dir dmc4 und ein trainer / mod und lerne den typ , kp hab den einfach gelernt lol )

Lern Piano, vor allem wenn du jung bist. Wer weiß, vielleicht kannst du nochmal damit moneymaxxen und ein besseres Leben haben.

Koenntest immerhin dir vernuenftige Behandlungen leisten.

 

[2006cel]

Non being born anytime mogs being born Chad.

 

[TheFinalFrontier]

To be or not to be, that is the question. But really, people with major genetic defects find it worth it to live while even htns sometimes rope. It's all up to us as individuals to decide what it is.

 

[LeFrenchCel]

Yes

 

[Cosmicsdorito]

Yeah, Ill just accept itsOVER

 

[Cosmicsdorito]

I am 1.50 meters tall.

truecel

 

[PLS HALP ME]

truecel

Brutal

 

[captchawaffen]

The painful part of being an incel, in my view, isn't the lack of love—it's the constant negative emotions.

More than anything, I just wish for a life free from bullying, humiliation, and endless problems, with some form of validation and acceptance, even if it never comes from women (no homo).

 

[ItsOverMan]

There are significant benefits to being normie however, you can actually make friends assuming you're NT, you will avoid brutal bullying most truecels experienced and you won't receive subhuman treatment like truecels do for every social interaction.

If you're ND you won't make friends and you'll be brutally bullied and treated like crap in public despite being average looking and average height.

 

[ItsOverMan]

HTN+ = good life worth living. I remember when I was young boomers would venerate IQ as the most important variable for happiness in life jfl, but there's no point of being high IQ if you're sub5 in looks.

IQ is total cope, only good for making money assuming you can actually find a job. Not flexing but I'm high IQ (former Mensa member) and still ended up at this cesspool with 2,666 posts (none in the Sewers).

 

[AscendOrDieTrying]

If we weren't born at all and only MTNs would exist as the lowest class, then they'd simply be the lowest class and the new incels.

So, being born as an MTN you'd still be the lowest member of soyciety.

Foids would simply set the bar higher, which they already do anyway.

Yep, you hit the nail on the head with this one. Unrelated but this is how I think when people say “Why does god allow some children to starve, etc.” but if that were not the case then those same people would keep going down the list of bad things until, “why does god allow me to stub my toe.”

 

[UndeadDeadMan]

I would rather not have been born, but at the same thing killing myself doesn't make any sense.

Like, I didn't self-born, so why would I self-delete? That's not my responsibility.

 

[nihilum]

I never wanted to be born, this life is shit.

 

[outerdarkness]

 

[jo_yugislayer08]

I honestly would rather have it all than be born in the first place. If you're genuinely HTN in looks or above, you live in paradise. The world is unfathomably good and they suffer 1000x less than a truecel.

I would even go far as to say that I would rather not be born at all than be born MTN, or average/slightly above average in looks. It's true that they live better lives than truecels, but it's nothing compared to the life quality of HTN+. You will never be the first choice to foids, they would be thirsting for an attractive bona fide HTN while keeping you in a perpetual state of being 'friends', along with other normie men, as a backup plan for if she cannot attract Chad.

You will be consistently blueballed and rendered as an orbiter for a foid, foids intentionally create a roster of normie male friends as a strategy to attain the highest possible SMV male far beyond her looksmatch.

It is a cruel and brutal game of bones where multiple normie men compete and those who don't meet the looks criteria are brutally played and friendzoned with their time wasted and mental state wrecked, even when their genetic looks are higher than that of the foid.

There are significant benefits to being normie however, you can actually make friends assuming you're NT and not manlet, you will avoid brutal bullying most truecels experienced and you won't receive subhuman treatment like truecels do for every social interaction. But the cons I listed prior incline me to prefer non existence to being born normie.

Do you guys agree? Or would you prefer being born as a NT MTN average height jack of all trades over non existence?

I've lived a lifetime of humiliation and rejection and bad treatment I just wish at this point to exchange the rest of the genetic vessels I carry lifetime to live a year or two in a HTN or a CL's body , I'm so wrecked ,this is a game of bones , everyobe knows looks matter but to what extent that's what we know from being here it matters all the time ,it's a constant game and I'm too rattled after all those experiences I'm so jaded

 

[Clavicus Vile]

It’s not worth being born a male at all unless you get to be in the top percentage of looks, height, IQ, and wealth. The ultimate chad.

Anything else is simply chasing the ideal male life but never having it.

 

[SoloLeveling]

I'm just going to say thank you man. You're a real one!

Ps: 100% being born

 

[ParasiteToSociety]

Non existence is better than being born a non-Chad.

 

[ndltn]

I've lived a lifetime of humiliation and rejection and bad treatment I just wish at this point to exchange the rest of the genetic vessels I carry lifetime to live a year or two in a HTN or a CL's body , I'm so wrecked ,this is a game of bones , everyobe knows looks matter but to what extent that's what we know from being here it matters all the time ,it's a constant game and I'm too rattled after all those experiences I'm so jaded

Same. I have had so many negative brutal experiences in life due to mild autism and subpar looks, I was severely bullied too. I am absolutely jaded, and this all could have been avoided if I were born at least MTN. The world treats sub5 ND men like absolute filth.