Normies havent stopped hating anime they just pretend to like shonen to seem cool.

[Fr0st]

If you talk to a normie about anime he'll happily talk about all the shonenslop he's watched and how amazing attack on titan is but the second you bring up something thats moe or anything pertaining to actual anime culture they will get weirded out and call you a pedo. seriously talk to a normie about mushoku tensei or fate prisma it'll feel like before 2020 again they're gonna bully you to no degree.

Im afraid anime is going to start to cater to these faggots this is one of the only hobbies that actually caters to me and gives me what i want hopefully it stays that way and doesnt cater to the ugly foids asking for no more fan service and retarded normies asking for more shonen and less moe.

 

[Twiceov]

If you talk to a normie about anime he'll happily talk about all the shonenslop he's watched and how amazing attack on titan is but the second you bring up something thats moe or anything pertaining to actual anime culture they will get weirded out and call you a pedo. seriously talk to a normie about mushoku tensei or fate prisma it'll feel like before 2020 again they're gonna bully you to no degree.

Im afraid anime is going to start to cater to these faggots this is one of the only hobbies that actually caters to me and gives me what i want hopefully it stays that way and doesnt cater to the ugly foids asking for no more fan service and retarded normies asking for more shonen and less moe.

they always complain about stupid shit. They would see a child in a work of art and call you the one reading it a pedo. Pisses me off so badly but i guess thats how it is. Also hate how they think they’re “nerdy” for reading the most plain animes out there

 

[tbh]

Same shit is happening to manga's the recent artstyles are so obnoxious and obviously care more for drooling amerikkkan toddlers than those who appreciate them also the seinen genre is getting taken over by "i love cats" gymcels making anything i read come off as insanely corny when i remember they prob read it and put it in their top 5. For the anime it was already over as soon as studios realized flashing epilepsy scenes > art. If it makes you feel any better visual novels are always going to stay the same since the western mind cant sit down and read for more than 1 hour per week

 

[Fr0st]

they always complain about stupid shit. They would see a child in a work of art and call you the one reading it a pedo. Pisses me off so badly but i guess thats how it is. Also hate how they think they’re “nerdy” for reading the most plain animes out there

Everybody wants to be a nerd until the ramifications of it comes to face them. its "safe" nerdy, they can get brownie points for having ((seemingly)) fringe interests and hobbies but as soon as it might bite them in the ass socially they backtrack and say that they "dont really watch much they just like the fighting" or they bully people who ARE into the fringe stuff to get validation from foids and other normies.

 

[Fr0st]

Same shit is happening to manga's the recent artstyles are so obnoxious and obviously care more for drooling amerikkkan toddlers than those who appreciate them also the seinen genre is getting taken over by "i love cats" gymcels making anything i read come off as insanely corny when i remember they prob read it and put it in their top 5. For the anime it was already over as soon as studios realized flashing epilepsy scenes > art. If it makes you feel any better visual novels are always going to stay the same since the western mind cant sit down and read for more than 1 hour per week

I agree with the epilepsy thing the worst thing to happen to anime ever was vincent chansard. words cannot express how much i fucking hate that faggot he has ZERO directorial skills and has no choreography in fights he just animates a lot of frames and random bullshit then draws the characters hitting into a rock and mind raped zogbots soyface and call him the best animator ever.

Also yeah visual novels are probably gonna stay the same however i doubt that there will ever be another worthwhile one. the visual novels that came out in the 2000's and 2010's were products of the anime and general otaku culture that was in place and now that, that scene is gone the creativity that stemmed from it is mostly gone.

 

[tired as fuck]

mushoku tensei or fate prisma

least not normie anime ong. Bring up Kodomo no Jikan, see what happens.

 

[Twiceov]

Everybody wants to be a nerd until the ramifications of it comes to face them. its "safe" nerdy, they can get brownie points for having ((seemingly)) fringe interests and hobbies but as soon as it might bite them in the ass socially they backtrack and say that they "dont really watch much they just like the fighting" or they bully people who ARE into the fringe stuff to get validation from foids and other normies.

I remember when all the foids were on madoka magica and were posting bullshit about it until they realised the same author made saya no uta and they started rambling about how the author is problematic.

 

[tired as fuck]

If it makes you feel any better visual novels are always going to stay the same since the western mind cant sit down and read for more than 1 hour per week

I feel called out by this so much. Didn't even complete 5 endings of the School Days VN

 

[tired as fuck]

I remember when all the foids were on madoka magica and were posting bullshit about it until they realised the same author made saya no uta and they started rambling about how the author is problematic.

We don't talk about Nanashi (Nagatoro author) @Onyx once twitter found out they switched in a nanosecond. Same goes for Shiruka Bakaudon, though she's way less known than Nanashi

 

[Fr0st]

least not normie anime ong. Bring up Kodomo no Jikan, see what happens.

It's well known enough to where its vilified. they cant even stand oreimo i doubt they are able to wrap their minds around such complex literature

 

[tired as fuck]

If you talk to a normie about anime he'll happily talk about all the shonenslop he's watched and how amazing attack on titan is but the second you bring up something thats moe or anything pertaining to actual anime culture they will get weirded out and call you a pedo. seriously talk to a normie about mushoku tensei or fate prisma it'll feel like before 2020 again they're gonna bully you to no degree.

Im afraid anime is going to start to cater to these faggots this is one of the only hobbies that actually caters to me and gives me what i want hopefully it stays that way and doesnt cater to the ugly foids asking for no more fan service and retarded normies asking for more shonen and less moe.

btw I agree with your post it's just that those two things you mentioned are pretty mainstream

 

[tired as fuck]

It's well known enough to where its vilified. they cant even stand oreimo i doubt they are able to wrap their minds around such complex literature

dude, the best example just came to mind: Usagi Drop

 

[Fr0st]

I remember when all the foids were on madoka magica and were posting bullshit about it until they realised the same author made saya no uta and they started rambling about how the author is problematic.

the word "problematic" should immediately discredit anybody ever. not to mention they're women we should expect them to say retarded shit they're incapable of rational thought.

 

[Fr0st]

dude, the best example just came to mind: Usagi Drop

JFL i thought of that while writing my response.

normies dont even read it they just watch that video made by that jew and decide its the worst thing ever made.

 

[tired as fuck]

JFL i thought of that while writing my response.

normies dont even read it they just watch that video made by that jew and decide its the worst thing ever made.

I read it on a whim after reading some retard saying "omg wtf this is so problematic do not read past timeskip" but it wasn't even that wild, making a fuss out of a nothingburger as always. Manga was good though I really liked it.

 

[Fr0st]

I read it on a whim after reading some retard saying "omg wtf this is so problematic do not read past timeskip" but it wasn't even that wild, making a fuss out of a nothingburger as always. Manga was good though I really liked it.

I doubt they even think its that bad they're just looking for the validation of publicly ostracizing it.

 

[tired as fuck]

I doubt they even think its that bad they're just looking for the validation of publicly ostracizing it.

those same foids read those shit ass smut vampire lycantrope chad only smut btw.

It's so tired, I don't even look up anime on MAL/Anilist anymore. I just check if it has a rating of 7- and if it does, it goes straight into my reading list. Good things I read had such a rating.

 

[tbh]

I agree with the epilepsy thing the worst thing to happen to anime ever was vincent chansard. words cannot express how much i fucking hate that faggot he has ZERO directorial skills and has no choreography in fights he just animates a lot of frames and random bullshit then draws the characters hitting into a rock and mind raped zogbots soyface and call him the best animator ever.

Vincent Slopsard you gotta give him some credit for being so recognizable since he just copy pastes on everything. I've always enjoyed slow paced art like clannad if it was made today it would have 1 season with a shit obnoxious artstyle and nobody would like it since it would lose It's value and for some reason studios keep pushing it (probably for money)

Also yeah visual novels are probably gonna stay the same however i doubt that there will ever be another worthwhile one. the visual novels that came out in the 2000's and 2010's were products of the anime and general otaku culture that was in place and now that, that scene is gone the creativity that stemmed from it is mostly gone.

I'm scared of it going western (shortening their read time killing the story for coomsumers) we would see 500 doki doki replicas and as i like to say "femcel" vns which are really ass and soulless

 

[tired as fuck]

those artstyles from the 90s through to the early 2010s were pure gold tbh. I much prefer them over the newer ones.

 

[tbh]

I feel called out by this so much. Didn't even complete 5 endings of the School Days VN

Many readers drop vn's frequently those who say they dont prob have under 20 read and are performative (or bought the game and feel sorry for their wallet if they dont finish it lool). You are reading for YOURSELF if its not entertaining for you there is no shame in dropping it and trying something new you can always come back to it if you change your mind

 

[tired as fuck]

Many readers drop vn's frequently those who say they dont prob have under 20 read and are performative (or bought the game and feel sorry for their wallet if they dont finish it lool). You are reading for YOURSELF if its not entertaining for you there is no shame in dropping it and trying something new you can always come back to it if you change your mind

no uhm I haven't made myself clear

this is my ADHD This is from a year ago when I tried to get into them but reading is tuff. Even went and downloaded some japanese ones like White Album 1 and 2, Utawarerumono, and more. Have like the complete leaf catalogue I think, then I got some internet archive collection of PC98 games and just downloaded that and some other VNs. Some I ordered them by developing house. Tbh this is just hoarding disorder or something, I must archive. I hope that by the end of the year I can learn how to read.

 

[tbh]

no uhm I haven't made myself clear
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this is my ADHD This is from a year ago when I tried to get into them but reading is tuff. Even went and downloaded some japanese ones like White Album 1 and 2, Utawarerumono, and more. Have like the complete leaf catalogue I think, then I got some internet archive collection of PC98 games and just downloaded that and some other VNs. Some I ordered them by developing house. Tbh this is just hoarding disorder or something, I must archive. I hope that by the end of the year I can learn how to read.

Narcissu is like a 3 hour read come on bro . You just gotta like get into it have headphones on blast and self insert you got this

 

[tired as fuck]

Narcissu is like a 3 hour read come on bro . You just gotta like get into it have headphones on blast and self insert you got this

I know that, unfortunately my brain has been raped by years of no-effort dopamine making it so I can't even read books anymore. I'm trying to get a grip rn, first thing I'm cutting off is porn and games.

 

[tbh]

I know that, unfortunately my brain has been raped by years of no-effort dopamine making it so I can't even read books anymore. I'm trying to get a grip rn, first thing I'm cutting off is porn and games.

One thing that helped me get through umineko is just reading even a bit like even when you're tired and that just play for 30-ish mins at some point my brain just got invested and i started getting into it might help

 

[tired as fuck]

One thing that helped me get through umineko is just reading even a bit like even when you're tired and that just play for 30-ish mins at some point my brain just got invested and i started getting into it might help

I'm not sure if it works for me to be honest, when I get interested in something I go full immersion deepest dive for a couple of days to a week and then I feel nothing anymore and I can't bring myself to do anything related to that thing for months on end.

 

[tbh]

I'm not sure if it works for me to be honest, when I get interested in something I go full immersion deepest dive for a couple of days to a week and then I feel nothing anymore and I can't bring myself to do anything related to that thing for months on end.

I just realized your avi is Foreground Eclipse peak but many readers have their own way of "locking in" gl finding yours lel

 

[Twiceov]

the word "problematic" should immediately discredit anybody ever. not to mention they're women we should expect them to say retarded shit they're incapable of rational thought.

Truth nuke

 

[tired as fuck]

I just realized your avi is Foreground Eclipse peak but many readers have their own way of "locking in" gl finding yours lel

you just never stop winning man

I will, thanks. I kind of feel like a performative tourist ngl, at the same time there isn't much I can do about it besides waiting and downregulating I guess.

 

[Twiceov]

I'm not sure if it works for me to be honest, when I get interested in something I go full immersion deepest dive for a couple of days to a week and then I feel nothing anymore and I can't bring myself to do anything related to that thing for months on end.

Vincent Slopsard you gotta give him some credit for being so recognizable since he just copy pastes on everything. I've always enjoyed slow paced art like clannad if it was made today it would have 1 season with a shit obnoxious artstyle and nobody would like it since it would lose It's value and for some reason studios keep pushing it (probably for money)


I'm scared of it going western (shortening their read time killing the story for coomsumers) we would see 500 doki doki replicas and as i like to say "femcel" vns which are really ass and soulless

Last part is real as fuck. I hate those “femcels” who think they’re “niche” (foid terminology) for reading vns or the “im literally her” foids who havent read a single molecule of the media they are talking about. I’ve seen this happen mostly with: nekopara, saya no uta and you me and her.

 

[tired as fuck]

I’ve seen this happen mostly with: nekopara, saya no uta and you me and her.

you mean criticizing them without reading them? Or them being full of foid infiltrators?

 

[Twiceov]

you mean criticizing them without reading them? Or them being full of foid infiltrators?

i mean them being full of foid infiltrators. Although i absolutely despise the former aswel lol

 

[tired as fuck]

i mean them being full of foid infiltrators. Although i absolutely despise the former aswel lol

dunno, I never thought something like Nekopara would be filled with foids.

 

[Twiceov]

dunno, I never thought something like Nekopara would be filled with foids.

You would be shocked, I guess the foids can keep their blissful arrogance

 

[tired as fuck]

You would be shocked, I guess the foids can keep their blissful arrogance

I'm not really knowledgeable about the VN subculture, I've done a little work as manga scanlator though and I can attest from my experience and other members of the community of scanlators that at least 3/4 of all scanlators are women. That single-handedly killed my passion for scanlating and the subculture in general, I realized that I was reading bad translations of foids who are bad at english and find shit "problematic" about the subculture. Depressing times nowadays I just be reading them in Japanese.

 

[tbh]

you just never stop winning man

I will, thanks. I kind of feel like a performative tourist ngl, at the same time there isn't much I can do about it besides waiting and downregulating I guess.

Denkare,Yuikonnu,Asriel and Pratanallis absolute peak too similar to Foreground Eclipse kind of. Tourists will read like 2 vns (mainstream ones like Saya) and wont shut up about it until they get bored of the reader title its really easy to spot them

 

[tbh]

Last part is real as fuck. I hate those “femcels” who think they’re “niche” (foid terminology) for reading vns or the “im literally her” foids who havent read a single molecule of the media they are talking about. I’ve seen this happen mostly with: nekopara, saya no uta and you me and her.

Luckily it seems to just be a trend they will get over it soon at least i hope so

 

[tired as fuck]

Yuikonnu

I love her voice, her cover of Ghost Rule by Deco is just heavenly. Also obviously Yume Chizu. Don't know the others but Draw the emotional and Shinigiwa Satellite are the groups that come closer to FGE. unfortunately FGE is unique. I also like Demetori but don't listen as much to em.

 

[Twiceov]

I'm not really knowledgeable about the VN subculture, I've done a little work as manga scanlator though and I can attest from my experience and other members of the community of scanlators that at least 3/4 of all scanlators are women. That single-handedly killed my passion for scanlating and the subculture in general, I realized that I was reading bad translations of foids who are bad at english and find shit "problematic" about the subculture. Depressing times nowadays I just be reading them in Japanese.

I wish i could read content in their pure form. Without all the shitty translation issues and such. I’ve bene wanting to read the sakura no series but it only has a shite machine translation so i guess i’ll be waiting for the official one. Sad to hear that most translators are like that.

 

[Twiceov]

Luckily it seems to just be a trend they will get over it soon at least i hope so

I really hope so aswell

 

[tbh]

I love her voice, her cover of Ghost Rule by Deco is just heavenly. Also obviously Yume Chizu. Don't know the others but Draw the emotional and Shinigiwa Alice are the groups that come closer to FGE. unfortunately FGE is unique. I also like Demetori but don't listen as much to em.

Yuikonnus voice dare i say sounds heavenly LITERALLY an angels voice not to be corny but its trve .Draw the emotional had collabs with foreground so they must be pretty similar i haven't heard of Shinigiwa Alice tho

 

[tired as fuck]

I wish i could read content in their pure form.

Me too, but it's not too difficult honestly. Set up an anki deck, yomitan, connect anki to yomitan, download scans for jp manga, and as you read you mine every word from jisho and put it into the deck, then you study the words in the deck and welp, you're learning japanese vocabulary I guess. I'm doing this while reading Nagatoro rn. For VNs you can use textractor or sharex to read the vn on your browser and use yomitan to scan, bypassing jisho. There are guides online for all this, if you're autistic about it as I am you could do this.

 

[Twiceov]

Me too, but it's not too difficult honestly. Set up an anki deck, yomitan, connect anki to yomitan, download scans for jp manga, and as you read you mine every word from jisho and put it into the deck, then you study the words in the deck and welp, you're learning japanese vocabulary I guess. I'm doing this while reading Nagatoro rn. For VNs you can use textractor or sharex to read the vn on your browser and use yomitan to scan, bypassing jisho. There are guides online for all this, if you're autistic about it as I am you could do this.

Thank you very much i’ll try it out. I’ve tried different methods in the past but they never really stuck. I’ve heard a lot about anki though

 

[tired as fuck]

Yuikonnus voice dare i say sounds heavenly LITERALLY an angels voice not to be corny but its trve .Draw the emotional had collabs with foreground so they must be pretty similar i haven't heard of Shinigiwa Alice tho

It's literally trve, don't worry man. 1.5x Yume Chizu is literally heavenly.
DTE collab with FGE is the "Seated With Liquor" album which is good but DTE is different from FGE, it's more metal and less post-hardcore/emo. DTE is basically just yuyoyuppe doing vocaloid metal but I love it.

Shinigiwa Satellite is rather obscure, you'll only find their shit on soulseek; at some point in 2011 meramipop (FGE lead vocalist) joined them and then they disbanded in 2017 and made another group called kachikachiyama which is still alive. Those three are basically the only post-hardcore touhou doujin circles believe it or not.

 

[tired as fuck]

Thank you very much i’ll try it out. I’ve tried different methods in the past but they never really stuck. I’ve heard a lot about anki though

Learning Japanese with VNs - TheMoeWay

Moe Moe Moe Moe Moe Moe Moe

learnjapanese.moe

this website is a goldmine, I linked the vn section specifically but the rest of the website should be checked out too.

learning a language is an adventure into a world you know nothing about mang, it should be fun for you to do. You may have tried and failed in the past but honestly it doesn't matter if you tried methods you weren't having fun with. I have tried many methods and I stick to just linguistics and manga, it's what's fun to me. Shit needs to be self-referential in order for you to keep on doing it.

I wish you the best.

 

[Twiceov]

Learning Japanese with VNs - TheMoeWay

Moe Moe Moe Moe Moe Moe Moe

learnjapanese.moe

this website is a goldmine, I linked the vn section specifically but the rest of the website should be checked out too.

learning a language is an adventure into a world you know nothing about mang, it should be fun for you to do. You may have tried and failed in the past but honestly it doesn't matter if you tried methods you weren't having fun with. I have tried many methods and I stick to just linguistics and manga, it's what's fun to me. Shit needs to be self-referential in order for you to keep on doing it.

I wish you the best.

Thank you very much, although im not very good at learning new languages i think that learning it in this way would make it much more interesting for me.

 

[tired as fuck]

Thank you very much, although im not very good at learning new languages i think that learning it in this way would make it much more interesting for me.

also, welcome to the forum

 

[tbh]

It's literally trve, don't worry man. 1.5x Yume Chizu is literally heavenly.
DTE collab with FGE is the "Seated With Liquor" album which is good but DTE is different from FGE, it's more metal and less post-hardcore/emo. DTE is basically just yuyoyuppe doing vocaloid metal but I love it.

Personally i like FGE way more but as u said DTE is not bad at all I should dig up my old playlist hidden gems over there

Shinigiwa Satellite is rather obscure, you'll only find their shit on soulseek; at some point in 2011 meramipop (FGE lead vocalist) joined them and then they disbanded in 2017 and made another group called kachikachiyama which is still alive. Those three are basically the only post-hardcore touhou doujin circles believe it or not.

I'll deff give it a listen

 

[Twiceov]

also, welcome to the forum

thanks

 

[Poopless One]

Normies make me h being an anime/manga fan

 

[tbh]

I really hope so aswell

The "femcels" have been ruining so many spaces and whats worse is the lonely faggots worshipping them ultimately completely ruining the space for the actual people in the space. Its like parasites that need extermination except the white knights defend them anyways what are you planning on reading