Serious No, ugly men being in relationships does not "disprove" the blackpill

[deleted fren]

For whatever reason, idiots think that the blackpill is the absolute belief that all ugly and short men can't get sex or relationships. Or at least, they intentionally misrepresent the BP as being such.


In reality, the BP is an expanse of truths regarding female and male sexual nature. Yes, statistically, the majority of ugly and short men will not have sex; however, the black pill isn't the belief that it's impossible. It is possible (although unlikely), and unattractive men being in relationships with women is part of the black pill. (Although in most cases it's normie men and not incels. They're still unattractive to women the less)

In fact, the difference between how women treat chads they date or sleep with versus less attractive men is one of the most brutal bps there is.

Look into female duel mating strategies. Women are basically genetically hardwired to seek out more feminine men to take care of them after Chad alpha pumps and dumps. This is an observable reality, as we have studies that show when women take birth control (trick their bodies into thinking they're pregnant), they're attracted to less masculine men.

Look at the studies that show women gain weight with less attractive men versus with attractive men, for whom they stay in shape.

Look at the studies which show women experience vaginally orgasm during sex with attractive men vs less attractive men.


But of course, it's much easier for them to misrepresent our claims so they can "debunk" them by posting some ugly midget who managed to betabux.

 

[DoomThreeKoala]

The BP is a lot more flexible than most people think.
Betabuxxing isn't gonna get your girl to want to bang you.
If Chad doesn't have to do it, then she never really wanted you in the first place.

 

[laanda]

completely agree. over the years i have also encountered users here who believe it's a unanimous outcome, for opposite reasons, but all are coping one way or another

people crave short answers, even at the expense of those answers making no sense, which it statistically does, but it's worse when used as a disingenuous 'proof'.

These three sentences are too long for them to process;

Of course there's no absolutes across such a large population, and it makes no sense that zero ugly men are in relationships. The idea is that as one random ugly dude, what are you odds of getting a relationship, even if you do the very best a person can? The fact one in a hundred do, still means even the biggest tryhard subhuman can face 80-90% odds of permavirginity as an outcome for trying his entire life. Apply it to a population and that's the vast majority dying as virgins by nothing but looks.

How does it change the 9/10 (or higher) uggos who provably are alone? It doesn't.

Somewhere along the process of thinking about this ^ it seems most modern people fucking capitulate and unironically go 'tl:dr bububu i feel more comforted if its absolute or if its completely wrong '

fucking idiots

 

[Todd Thundercock]

Yes, and there's many people who can never understand this.

 

[laanda]

the main reason they do this is because when you can't logically debate an argument the best strategy is to misrepresent it. I see this all the time with stuff like 'incels think only chad has sex, but many of my friends have dated HTNs... so see women don't care about looks or if you're ugly.'

We don't think that, they are just under no obligation to actually represent us correctly.

How does that prove they'd date ugly? It's not about uglies, but if the goal is not to find the truth but to protect what they believe, the human brain will just replace truth with obvious tripe that at least hints at a connection. They see us discuss that women prefer chad, they say 'I date 6/10s! You're wrong ergo being ugly doesn't matter either!'. Doesn't matter if the point is preference, not law. Nothing matters, only absolutes and comfort.

 

[deleted fren]

The BP is a lot more flexible than most people think.
Betabuxxing isn't gonna get your girl to want to bang you.
If Chad doesn't have to do it, then she never really wanted you in the first place.

one of the reasons they avoid bringing this up, is likely because it applies to them and they don't even want to think about it.

completely agree. over the years i have also encountered users here who believe it's a unanimous outcome, for opposite reasons, but all are coping one way or another

people crave short answers, even at the expense of those answers making no sense, which it statistically does, but it's worse when used as a disingenuous 'proof'.

These three sentences are too long for them to process;

Of course there's no absolutes across such a large population, and it makes no sense that zero ugly men are in relationships. The idea is that as one random ugly dude, what are you odds of getting a relationship, even if you do the very best a person can? The fact one in a hundred do, still means even the biggest tryhard subhuman can face 80-90% odds of permavirginity as an outcome for trying his entire life. Apply it to a population and that's the vast majority dying as virgins by nothing but looks.

How does it change the 9/10 (or higher) uggos who provably are alone? It doesn't.

Somewhere along the process of thinking about this ^ it seems most modern people fucking capitulate and unironically go 'tl:dr bububu i feel more comforted if its absolute or if its completely wrong '

fucking idiots

Exactly. They accuse us of thinking in absolutes when they do themselves. Maybe if you used a comparison to the lottery they'd understand, then again they'd probably go "Duuurrrr, but that's different!"

 

[PersonalityChad]

Normies think in absolute terms and don't understand that exceptions don't disprove the general rule

 

[deleted fren]

the main reason they do this is because when you can't logically debate an argument the best strategy is to misrepresent it. I see this all the time with stuff like 'incels think only chad has sex, but many of my friends have dated HTNs... so see women don't care about looks or if you're ugly.'

We don't think that, they are just under no obligation to actually represent us correctly.

How does that prove they'd date ugly? It's not about uglies, but if the goal is not to find the truth but to protect what they believe, the human brain will just replace truth with obvious tripe that at least hints at a connection. They see us discuss that women prefer chad, they say 'I date 6/10s! You're wrong ergo being ugly doesn't matter either!'. Doesn't matter if the point is preference, not law. Nothing matters, only absolutes and comfort.

True. They care more about the comfort of having the majority agree with them. They don't even want to think about what the blackpill truly explores because it'll threaten their existence if they ponder it too much. Normie also see debates as shit flinging competitions and love misrepresenting what others say so they can have a gacha' and chimp out.

 

[deleted fren]

Normies think in absolute terms and don't understand that exceptions don't disprove the general rule

 

[laanda]

one of the reasons they avoid bringing this up, is likely because it applies to them and they don't even want to think about it.


Exactly. They accuse us of thinking in absolutes when they do themselves. Maybe if you used a comparison to the lottery they'd understand, then again they'd probably go "Duuurrrr, but that's different!"

it's much like how they say we recruit young men, when we do the opposite. we don't want normies. unanimously I see HTN 18yos who join be met with 'get the fuck off this forum you retarded child before we have to read your shitty 2025cel ascension thread '

if they took the time to speak to even a bad user on this forum their explanation would be; 'the only way out of inceldom is luck'

 

[allah]

The BP is a lot more flexible than most people think.
Betabuxxing isn't gonna get your girl to want to bang you.
If Chad doesn't have to do it, then she never really wanted you in the first place.

 

[deleted fren]

it's much like how they say we recruit young men, when we do the opposite. we don't want normies. unanimously I see HTN 18yos who join be met with 'get the fuck off this forum you retarded child before we have to read your shitty 2025cel ascension thread '

if they took the time to speak to even a bad user on this forum their explanation would be; 'the only way out of inceldom is luck'

Especially since they barely contribute to the forum outside of regurgitating shitty trending memes. They seem to think that young men making water is wet observations about what girls are doing and saying is us brainwashing them.

Yea, definitely us brainwashing the youth and not females exposing their nature in the hundreds of thousands on Tiktok, Instagram, and other platforms

 

[Rick prime]

Look at the studies that show women gain weight with less attractive men versus with attractive men, for whom they stay in shape.

Is this why we don’t have them losing weight for us gods and having them stay in shape with incorrect fucking organic retards

 

[Ghostface]

IT would never debate this truth nvke thread

 

[Justanotherbloke]

They're just used as placeholders, that's it. And also, high SMV Chads are scarce within the dating market and not always available, maybe rotating multiple women at once. The social pressure for whores to be in a relationship is high, it's expected of them to have some form of connection > so they'll just use the LTN looking guy for relationship status, but her hypergamous nature will always crave the Chad. As soon as Chad is available, she'll either cheat or ditch him entirely.

 

[ItsOver4cel]

They're just used as placeholders, that's it. And also, high SMV Chads are scarce within the dating market and not always available, maybe rotating multiple women at once. The social pressure for whores to be in a relationship is high, it's expected of them to have some form of connection > so they'll just use the LTN looking guy for relationship status, but her hypergamous nature will always crave the Chad. As soon as Chad is available, she'll either cheat or ditch him entirely.

True, the blackpill is more about accepting the fact a foid will never actually desire or love you the way she does with chad, that's the point. Even if you actually lock one in, chances are your marriage will end up in r/deadbedrooms or miserable like the vast majority of them nowadays, where the nagging wife holds all the power and the husband is forced to meet her every demand so she doesn't just ditch him on the spot for another man. There's always competition if you aren't at the top, and they'll always treat you like a second class civilian they had to settle with out of necessity rather than their own wishes.

Besides, it's just your turn, if you aren't the first you're last, etc. A man with less chances will also mean a man who has even less of a chance of getting a virgin gf.

 

[Misogynist Vegeta]

You are correct the blackpill is not a black and white set of rules that cannot be broken instead it's a generalization of how the world works of course their is the occasional person that gets lucky but that does not disprove the blackpill, Trying to disprove the blackpill this way is like trying to disprove poverty by showing a lottery winner. Plenty of people play the lottery all their life and never win, plenty of ugly men try to find love all their life and never win either.