Venting Mother told me that women focus very much on a man's "career"... and says the amount of time I work will influence my chances .....

[The Wolf]

kek, i understand the root of the advice b it foids give a shit about money, not career. it’s a different perspective.

true. but also, my mother has always known that it's over for me. so basically, knowing her, she wants me to work and this will basically, in her mind, make me forget about any gf. as in, I'll be too busy working to want a gf. I think that's her logic.

 

[The Wolf]

the point is why should we do all this shit, when they can enter relationships with chads doing nothing

yup. but chads also need to do nothing, or less. also, my mother has always known it's over for me, hence her trying to talk me out of wanting a gf. she hopes I'll just focus on "the job".

 

[8CbZA-kHFu6pFgE*]

My parents also want me secretly to betabux. They want me to get a job at all cost and totally oppose me getting NEETbux. Also my dad one time said that there will be a time when i get girls, implying betabuxxing.

I stand by what i said, ill jump from a bridge before i betabux

 

[Ahnfeltia]

Exactly but I could survive working something like 70% instead of full-time. However when I mentioned this, and gave the reason that if I don't have a gf, I don't want to just "live to work", she got mad and said how I have no ambition and that she'll demand "her" money back.

I thought she wanted her money back if you refused to work outright. She wants her money back even if you work only as much as you need to? Wow that's... I'm sorry brocel. I don't mean to drive a wedge between you and your mom, but would she really coerce you like that if she truly cared about your happiness?

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

yea they care about that if you betabuxx

they don't care how much money you're making if you're not giving it to them

 

[VersoffenerAssi]

• her and I both know, I have no chance. But that's not my point. In front of her, I pretend like I think I can get a gf — reason being, she desperately wants to talk me out of it (because she knows I can't get one anyway).
in the past she always mentioned how relationships are overrated and how you can be happy without one. she means well I guess, because as I said: she doesn't think I can get one anyway.

• she doesn't admit it but she wants me to work full-time in the future (but she doesn't want any money from me), and I strongly suspect she thinks I'll be too busy with my job to think about wanting, or desiring a gf.

• she says how I have no ambition, no drive (100% implied: career-wise).

• my dad is even worse when it comes to telling me to do "coping". this is just the most recent example.

So, just become a betabuxxer to throw your hard-earned money into some rotten roastie meathole who had already fucked with 200+ Chads and will divorce-rape you after probably three years.

 

[The Wolf]

I thought she wanted her money back if you refused to work outright. She wants her money back even if you work only as much as you need to? Wow that's... I'm sorry brocel. I don't mean to drive a wedge between you and your mom, but would she really coerce you like that if she truly cared about your happiness?

Exactly. And yes, she demands I work full time, reason being "otherwise, I feel stupid" [for having given it to you].

 

[The Wolf]

yea they care about that if you betabuxx

they don't care how much money you're making if you're not giving it to them

good point. but my point is, my mother knows I can never have a gf, given all my faults and my age. she hopes I'll just focus on working bc then... I'm simply to "busy" with work (plus all the other necessary stuff like cooking and groceries etc)

 

[The Wolf]

So, just become a betabuxxer to throw your hard-earned money into some rotten roastie meathole who had already fucked with 200+ Chads and will divorce-rape you after probably three years.

yeah it's kinda sad.
but she's made it pretty clear over the years that I'll be basically forever alone. and she said "women want a successful man, not one who just works 70-90%, but one who has a good job or career."

 

[sultryloser]

Are you low-IQ? Would you be able to move into a high-paying career? I suppose it would be almost impossible with the lack of motivation knowing your situation with women. Would such a career help you cope with your situation?

Also your mother is part of the problem upholding this idea that men should live for their work. I watched my father spend most of his life at his work, and his thanks was being cheat on, divorced, and sent back to the economic class he worked so hard to escape from. Disposed of like a tissue.

 

[light]

So, just become a betabuxxer to throw your hard-earned money into some rotten roastie meathole who had already fucked with 200+ Chads and will divorce-rape you after probably three years.

 

[RandomGuy]

Just be a betabuxxer theory

She wants her money back

 

[The Wolf]

Are you low-IQ? Would you be able to move into a high-paying career? I suppose it would be almost impossible with the lack of motivation knowing your situation with women. Would such a career help you cope with your situation?

I have an average IQ. I doubt I can move into a high-paying career, considering my height and very strange (disabled) looks, and hence I have a low EQ. I also have autism and ADHD (meds only help little) and I'm quite slow in how I work. My grades – I study 100% online btw – are mediocre.

A career wouldn't really help me cope. Maybe maybe if I built up a successful business or became a veterinarian or something – but both are impossible for about a dozen reasons. So, no, in my case it wouldn't help me cope. I'm 27, never really had a job, and all that other stuff I mentioned.

Also your mother is part of the problem upholding this idea that men should live for their work. I watched my father spend most of his life at his work, and his thanks was being cheat on, divorced, and sent back to the economic class he worked so hard to escape from. Disposed of like a tissue.

Brutal. But yeah, basically she says I have zero ambitions (which is kinda true, like you said). But I'd be much more "willing" to work 100% (40 hours) if I had a cute and kind gf for instance.

But that thing she says about women wanting a man with a good job and one that works full-time, she's accidentally implying that she wants my job to be my life — she knows I can't get a gf (reasons above), but says women want a successful man so that I just work (and she hopes that I'll not want a gf anymore sooner or later).

 

[The Wolf]

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Not attractive to me. I'll never get a gf anyway but still I wouldn't really want this kind.

 

[sultryloser]

But I'd be much more "willing" to work 100% (40 hours) if I had a cute and kind gf for instance.

This is fact. That's all men, which is why this new social order of women banging 20% of men and ignoring the rest of mankind is ripping society apart slowly at the seams as more men are starting to realize that they have nothing to work for, so they either don't get a job or work the bare minimum. None of these Jordan Peterson, University professors, Vox writers have the wherewithal to understand this, so they blame the only things they know like the economy. "Just the economy, bro!" Maybe they mean economy of pussy?

she's accidentally implying that she wants my job to be my life — she knows I can't get a gf (reasons above), but says women want a successful man so that I just work (and she hopes that I'll not want a gf anymore sooner or later).

So she's coping on your behalf?

What are you going to do with the rest of your life? If you know you're not going to be able to get a woman, know you're not going to be able to get a fulfilling and enjoyable career, then what is your plan? Video games? Depression? Sleeping? Food? Psychedelics? Alcohol?

By your description, you're more disadvantaged than I am, I already have a hard enough time here on Earth. I can't imagine what you have to put up with.

 

[Kamanbert]

I watched my father spend most of his life at his work, and his thanks was being cheat on, divorced, and sent back to the economic class he worked so hard to escape from. Disposed of like a tissue.

Damn. My father was abused too although in a different context.

This is fact. That's all men, which is why this new social order of women banging 20% of men and ignoring the rest of mankind is ripping society apart slowly at the seams as more men are starting to realize that they have nothing to work for, so they either don't get a job or work the bare minimum. None of these Jordan Peterson, University professors, Vox writers have the wherewithal to understand this, so they blame the only things they know like the economy. "Just the economy, bro!" Maybe they mean economy of pussy?

Those dudes are straight up telling men to become betabuxxers, Jordan Cuckerson rebranded it as being "competent and generous". What a fucking asshole...

 

[VersoffenerAssi]

yeah it's kinda sad.
but she's made it pretty clear over the years that I'll be basically forever alone. and she said "women want a successful man, not one who just works 70-90%, but one who has a good job or career."

These lazy whores just want to lay down on the couch and enjoy an easy life full of consumerism, expensive travels and so on while some dumb idiot works off his retarded ass to provide them with all that stuff.
Meanwhile the holes are on their phones and invite some Chads to come over and fuck them. The betabuxxer won't get any pussy, but constantly nagging and endless jobs to do at home.
Never ever get any advice from a foid when it comes to these topics. Even if it's your mother.
Go into some forums where divorce-raped beta cucks cope with MGTOW and tell their life stories. There are countless successful men with good careers out there who got fucked hard by foids and the system. It's crazy. No money will make a foid be really attracted to you if you're not good-looking, at least a Chadlite. Even then they cheat because they can and it's the man who has to face the consequences. It's beyond evil. They cheat because they're already ran through promiscuous sluts, too. So they're unable to pair-bond.

 

[NEB.feelsdevil]

This is brutal, but not bad advice honestly.

There are two ways to attract foids: being attractive or being rich. Ideally, foids want you to be both.

But if you're ugly and you still want a girlfriend, moneymaxxing and betabuxxing is your only chance.

 

[The Wolf]

This is fact. That's all men, which is why this new social order of women banging 20% of men and ignoring the rest of mankind is ripping society apart slowly at the seams as more men are starting to realize that they have nothing to work for, so they either don't get a job or work the bare minimum. None of these Jordan Peterson, University professors, Vox writers have the wherewithal to understand this, so they blame the only things they know like the economy. "Just the economy, bro!" Maybe they mean economy of pussy?

So she's coping on your behalf?

Kind of, yeah. But at the same time she's realistic in terms of my odds of getting – NOT getting – a gf.

What are you going to do with the rest of your life? If you know you're not going to be able to get a woman, know you're not going to be able to get a fulfilling and enjoyable career, then what is your plan? Video games? Depression? Sleeping? Food? Psychedelics? Alcohol?

Idk man, honestly. Thought about this a lot. Probably food and tv/movies.

By your description, you're more disadvantaged than I am, I already have a hard enough time here on Earth. I can't imagine what you have to put up with.

Thanks man, yeah but at the same time nothing I can do will be enough. I mean literally every stranger of every age, gender and social class gives me weird looks or says something about me to the person they are with, like "how tf does this guy look like" or points "look at this guy" or sometimes I can't hear it but it's clear they're saying shit about me, including old people.

 

[turbosperg]

• relationships are overrated and how you can be happy without one.

For a foid, that's true. She can get unlimited sex, attention, money, and social validation for merely existing. Foids don't need relationships for anything.

• she thinks I'll be too busy with my job to think about wanting, or desiring a gf.

I agree. You should try and grab the money, so you can buy copes and prostitutes.

• she says how I have no ambition, no drive (100% implied: career-wise).

Probably correct also. You need goals for moneymaxxing, like buying a car, travelling to SEA or banging whores once a month.

• my dad is even worse when it comes to telling me to do "coping". this is just the most recent example.

I agree with him. You need copes. Girlfriends and "love" won't fall onto your lap ever. Grab the money and cope with better copes.

 

[The Wolf]

For a foid, that's true. She can get unlimited sex, attention, money, and social validation for merely existing. Foids don't need relationships for anything.


I agree. You should try and grab the money, so you can buy copes and prostitutes.


Probably correct also. You need goals for moneymaxxing, like buying a car, travelling to SEA or banging whores once a month.


I agree with him. You need copes. Girlfriends and "love" won't fall onto your lap ever. Grab the money and cope with better copes.

I understand.
My problem is more "having" to work 100% (40 hrs/week), and not that I have to work. But that she expects me to work full-time and if I don't she'll demand the money back she gave to my savings-account.
I'd be much more "willing" to work full-time if I had a (cute, kind, decent) gf.

 

[turbosperg]

I'd be much more "willing" to work full-time if I had a (cute, kind, decent) gf.

Girlfriends are not for guys like us.

What we can do is work to get some money and then spend it on copes

 

[The Wolf]

Girlfriends are not for guys like us.

What we can do is work to get some money and then spend it on copes

True, but it's unfortunate. I haven't found a perfect cope yet, probably there is none.
At 27.5 I feel very old.
Atm I'm at home, no job but study 100% fully online.
Mother says I have to work FULL time, if I work 90% or below she'll want the money back she gave me for my savings account.
That's what I don't get.

 

[turbosperg]

True, but it's unfortunate. I haven't found a perfect cope yet, probably there is none.

There is not one single perfect cope. One year you learn skydiving, the next you start golfing, then cave exploration, then steel sculpture and so on. You rotate your copes.

That's what I don't get.

You'll never "get" a foid. Just get this: if you don't work full time, you lose a lot of money.

 

[The Wolf]

This is brutal, but not bad advice honestly.

There are two ways to attract foids: being attractive or being rich. Ideally, foids want you to be both.

But if you're ugly and you still want a girlfriend, moneymaxxing and betabuxxing is your only chance.

True... but I guess I'd have to be FILTHY rich (a few millions), a level I can never reach, even if I work 60 hours per week. I'm extremely deformed and short, 27, and autistic. It's more likely I'll win the lottery than become attractive through surgery (several reasons, I checked with five surgeons over the years).

I won't get a gf anyway. I know that, and so does mom. Hence she wants me to "cope" with a job, thinking "oh with a full time job he's busy enough." And "the older he gets, the less he wants a gf."

 

[The Wolf]

There is not one single perfect cope. One year you learn skydiving, the next you start golfing, then cave exploration, then steel sculpture and so on. You rotate your copes.



You'll never "get" a foid. Just get this: if you don't work full time, you lose a lot of money.

Alright, I'll try I have a mountain-bike and a golf-bag (I don't really like it, my parents pushed me into it when I was a small kid) but over the years it just got boring alone. But I guess I have to start getting used to it... and just one more thing: even if I work full time, I won't have a good income, I can't work every job due to my disabilities.

Thanks for the tips though !

 

[sultryloser]

I understand.
My problem is more "having" to work 100% (40 hrs/week), and not that I have to work. But that she expects me to work full-time and if I don't she'll demand the money back she gave to my savings-account.
I'd be much more "willing" to work full-time if I had a (cute, kind, decent) gf.

I've known a friend from my HS who jumped into a 60 hrs/week catering job in London the moment he graduated. He was a 3.5/10, 5'8, had no girlfriend ever, a social media that he deleted, and I don't have contact with him. I wonder how he's fairing today as this was years ago. I was thinking now that I'm blackpilled, what a decision for any man to use 60 hrs/week of his youth on a job when he is from a middle class family and doesn't have a family of his own to support. I wonder what he'd even do with the money. It's not like he had a girl to spoil or children to raise, so it just doesn't make sense to me. Maybe it's to grow his Steam Library and get a new graphics card.

 

[The Wolf]

I've known a friend from my HS who jumped into a 60 hrs/week catering job in London the moment he graduated. He was a 3.5/10, had no girlfriend ever, a social media that he deleted, and I don't have contact with him. I wonder how he's fairing today as this was years ago. I was thinking now that I'm blackpilled, what a decision for any man to use 60 hrs/week of his youth on a job when he is from a middle class family and doesn't have a family of his own to support. I wonder what he'd even do with the money. It's not like he had a girl to spoil or children to raise, so it just doesn't make sense to me. Maybe it's to grow his Steam Library and get a new graphics card.

That's... crazy. Atm, I don't work. I study at home, 100% online. Only like 1 lecture per month, the rest I have to decide myself when to study. I'm basically 3/4 NEET.

And yeah this all crazy stuff. I mean I would theoretically have "copes" like a nice mountain-bike a kayak and other stuff (I think my parents bought them for me bc they feel bad, as I basically look like a mentally retarded person). But it's just so boring always having to do all of it alone, know what I mean? We're and I am not rich but I theoretically have "good" materialistic copes but it doesn't make up for how people react when they see me. I'd rather have more free time than more money.

 

[SupremeAllah]

I understand.
My problem is more "having" to work 100% (40 hrs/week), and not that I have to work. But that she expects me to work full-time and if I don't she'll demand the money back she gave to my savings-account.
I'd be much more "willing" to work full-time if I had a (cute, kind, decent) gf.

Take the money out of the bank account and put it in a different one or into some stablecoin wallet she has no access to. She's not entitled to the money after giving it to you as a gift. Your mom sounds more like your wife with the way she thinks she can control your finances and how much you work like this. If you live with her buy a motorhome. They go used for about $500 on Facebook marketplace or if you can afford higher you can get a really nice one in the thousands.

You're a grown man being bossed around by a foid and you don't even get pussy in return lmao, it's the worst of both worlds you can't let yourself live like this anymore get the fuck outta there

 

[The Wolf]

Take the money out of the bank account and put it in a different one or into some stablecoin wallet she has no access to. She's not entitled to the money after giving it to you as a gift. Your mom sounds more like your wife with the way she thinks she can control your finances and how much you work like this. If you live with her buy a motorhome. They go used for about $500 on Facebook marketplace or if you can afford higher you can get a really nice one in the thousands.

You're a grown man being bossed around by a foid and you don't even get pussy in return lmao, it's the worst of both worlds you can't let yourself live like this anymore get the fuck outta there

 

[proudweeb]

I concentrated on my career for 10+ years. I still haven't ascended, and I probably never will

"careers" are a joke. You will be treated as nothing more than a workhorse

 

[NEB.feelsdevil]

but I guess I'd have to be FILTHY rich (a few millions), a level I can never reach, even if I work 60 hours per week.

Yes, if you want a cute, decent girlfriend.

But if you look to betabuxx older, divorced single moms, you won't need a few millions. Those have ''lower'' standards. Look for divorced single moms in their late 30s and early 40s to have a CHANCE.

It is fucking brutal for ugly autistic men, but what else can you do?

The other option is to just escortmaxx. That's how you can get access to beautiful women who evern normies couldn't. Look for stacy escorts

 

[Ahnfeltia]

she demands I work full time, reason being "otherwise, I feel stupid" [for having given it to you]

yet one more instance of me not understanding women (or more broadly normies)

 

[sk.feelsdevil]

This is brutal, but not bad advice honestly.

There are two ways to attract foids: being attractive or being rich. Ideally, foids want you to be both.

But if you're ugly and you still want a girlfriend, moneymaxxing and betabuxxing is your only chance.

Yup, that's the reality of the situation. You either looksmaxx or betabuxx. Honestly betabuxxing is easier but I think that everyone here would rather not be a fucking cuck. Honestly if you are betabuxxing it is so over. Just kys. Don't spend youor life as a money slave for a fucking foid.

 

[NEB.feelsdevil]

Honestly if you are betabuxxing it is so over.

True attraction can only come from foids being attracted to you. Betabuxxing is a weak substitude, but there's just nothing you can do about it.

Foids either find you attractive, or they don't. Having money makes them tolerate you, but it will never match genuine attractiveness. Unless maybe you are billionaire, but that is very unrealistic...

It's just over. Simply over if you're poor and sub7.

 

[sk.feelsdevil]

It's just over. Simply over if you're poor and sub7.

Thank God that I am not poor! But I am sadly a sub 5..... but I am too stingy with my money to actually spend it on frivolous things like fucking restaurant food or coffee. Nigga, just cook your own shit or drink your own tee. Honestly it is retarded to spend money on shit. If I could I wouldn't spend any of my money on anything, foids always want money, that's all they ever want.

 

[Wolnir]

A foid will never truly love you because of muh career. Sure, you can try and build a career so you can make a lot of money and build a better life for yourself, but it's never going to help you with foids.

 

[light]

A foid will never truly love you because of muh career. Sure, you can try and build a career so you can make a lot of money and build a better life for yourself, but it's never going to help you with foids.

 

[The Wolf]

I concentrated on my career for 10+ years. I still haven't ascended, and I probably never will

Brutal.

"careers" are a joke. You will be treated as nothing more than a workhorse

I agree. All it will ever be for most, and me is an 8–5 (I guess 0.5-1 hour of lunch + commuting?). Clock in, clock out. Go home, do necessary stuff in the apartment. A bit of free-time. Sleep. Repeat. 2-day weekend, boom that was quick. Monday.

 

[The Wolf]

A foid will never truly love you because of muh career. Sure, you can try and build a career so you can make a lot of money and build a better life for yourself, but it's never going to help you with foids.

Yes.

 

[The Wolf]

True attraction can only come from foids being attracted to you. Betabuxxing is a weak substitude, but there's just nothing you can do about it.

Foids either find you attractive, or they don't. Having money makes them tolerate you, but it will never match genuine attractiveness. Unless maybe you are billionaire, but that is very unrealistic...

It's just over. Simply over if you're poor and sub7.

I'll win the lottery before I can get a decent gf. And I don't really want a bad one, in terms of looks and personality, then my current situation is more comfortable I guess. Not that I have any options though.

 

[light]

work is slavery

 

[The Wolf]

work is slavery

 

[Izayacel]

Just slave away for a blown out roastie

 

[SupremeAllah]

Parents endorse betabuxxing because they are desperate for grandkids

 

[SupremeAllah]

I see them tip toe around this so much.

On one hand they will often proudly affirm how le modern wahmen is succesful in life so they deserve the best and you're the scum of soyciety for not earning x amount of money/not having status.

On the other hand i see an increasing number of them backpedalling and saying how their financial/status standards are not a thing and that women are le good willing to give the pizza guy a chance, almost as if we were all collectively hallucinating.

Women definitely are willing to give the pizza guy a chance...if he's a Chad. Poolboy fucks the betabuxxes wife while he's out at work

 

[NIGGER BOJANGLES]

Don’t burn yourself out with work. Do a part time job if you have to

 

[The Wolf]

Parents endorse betabuxxing because they are desperate for grandkids

For sure, no doubt about it. Almost always.

I'm an exception – in my case my parents always knew it was over. I'm 27, short (5'4), and very ugly. My parents have implied several times over the years that they don't think I will have a gf, I inferred it from the things they said and didn't say.

In the case I described in the post, my mother also doesn't think this will get me a gf. But she wants me to have a "good" job and work 100%/full-time. I strongly suspect she then hopes that I'll forget about a gf as I get older.

 

[SupremeAllah]

For sure, no doubt about it. Almost always.

I'm an exception – in my case my parents always knew it was over. I'm 27, short (5'4), and very ugly. My parents have implied several times over the years that they don't think I will have a gf, I inferred it from the things they said and didn't say.

In the case I described in the post, my mother also doesn't think this will get me a gf. But she wants me to have a "good" job and work 100%/full-time. I strongly suspect she then hopes that I'll forget about a gf as I get older.

Brutal

 

[The Wolf]

Don’t burn yourself out with work. Do a part time job if you have to

I agree. I'm studying college part-time, 100% online/from home, and don't have a job. I have extreme social anxiety and I'm already struggling.

But even if I work like 80 or 90% (in German speaking countries "100%" = 40 hrs) my parents said they want the money back they gifted me for my savings account.

They know and always knew I can't get a gf.

My father cares much less but my mother wants me to get a job and from everything she said and didn't say I can infer that she doesn't think I can get a gf. But she basically says "good job and work = gf", not because she thinks this (or anything) will get me a gf but bc she wants me to have a good job. (she doesn't want money from me once I have a job. But I'll never have a good job.)