Cope Moneymaxxing is overrated

[proudweeb]

Trying to use money by itself to get pussy is a worthless strategy nowadays. There is no shortage of middle age guys who can afford a sports car or whatever. No sports car for your face. You'd have to be in the top 0.00001%, and even then, you're really just betabuxxing. It's also a race to the bottom since every other guy is trying to moneymaxx.

Only options it opens up:

1. betabuxx, if you are at least normie tier 4-6/10. Betabuxx is a bad idea, you will be divorced and your life will be ruined within 10 years. Only difference, you will be MGTOW instead of incel, but back in the same boat

2. looksmax surgery (if you're willing to get cut up. Maybe something straightforward like chin implant is worth it. Anything more serious is risky and invasive)

3. SEA - not sure this even still works nowadays, it's flooded with white guys and not safe anyway. You also need to be attracted to pan face gook whores


Mostly money just gets you better copes, or you can invest it all for early retirement to leave wage cage (probably the best choice). Just buy VTSAX theory

 

[DarkStar]

I think @proudweeb has been reading a lot of my threads lately; just the title & formatting reminds me of mine a lot.

 

[Cryotron]

3. SEA - not sure this even still works nowadays, it's flooded with white guys and not safe anyway. You also need to be attracted to pan face gook whores

imo it's the only option worth for moneymaxxers if they're white/black and taller than 5'10 at least. There is still some countries with less passport bros (competition)

 

[ElTruecel]

Money maxxing is a bragging right against normies. Betabuxxing and sea maxxing is cucked though no point in that

 

[AegisReflector]

If you had insane amounts of money you could just grab a whore for every day of the week and not give a single fuck about women.

 

[proudweeb]

If you had insane amounts of money you could just grab a whore for every day of the week and not give a single fuck about women.

I would do this if there were decent escort choices around here. Choices are trash since it's illegal here

Maybe move to a country where it is legal + available. An option for my 40s

 

[Cryotron]

An option for my 40s

ED may happen which sucks.

 

[proudweeb]

Money maxxing is a bragging right against normies. Betabuxxing and sea maxxing is cucked though no point in that

I think this is the principle reason normie-tier males try to moneymaxx. They think they will finally be "hot catches" when they hit 30. In their minds, they will be able to "provide" a fancy house and shit for their woman. In reality, they will just wife up some single mom with a 30+ body count.

 

[proudweeb]

ED may happen which sucks.

Too late lol

Don't care if I'm paying a whore anyway

 

[proudweeb]

I would do this if there were decent escort choices around here. Choices are trash since it's illegal here

Maybe move to a country where it is legal + available. An option for my 40s

Also with more girls going to OF, escort choices are getting worse. No reason for them to fuck incels for money when they can sell pictures and some cuck will pay. So escorts are either less common, uglier, or cost more for the same quality

 

[Gabbez]

Elliot Rodger had a bmw and always wore designer clothes

 

[Gabbez]

Richard Ramirez and Ted bundy where broke

 

[proudweeb]

Elliot Rodger had a bmw and always wore designer clothes

Cars do not attract women in 2024, most women don't even know the difference between a honda and a bmw

@Mango thoughts

 

[prajeet88]

Yeah simply having a six figure income and seven figure net worth helps a bit. However, there's 10x more men who make 100k+/yr then women who are thin, slim, and sane of mind. I'd say if you're an American woman that's:

1. Poor with no career prospects
2. Conservative
3. Can cook and clean
4. Slim
5. 5/10 face

^ This kind of woman is SO rare in the west nowadays that she would SMV mog some 3/10 5ft7 dude who makes 2 million a year and has a net worth of 20 million.

 

[kay']

Yea ofc you re not the only man with money.

Thats why its called betabuxxing because we are buying the affection.

Doesnt mean if there are alot of betabuxxer then you cant do that too.

Same to chad, chads fuck many women. One chad cant outchad another because it doesnt matter you re either genetically gifted or not, same logic here.

 

[proudweeb]

Yeah simply having a six figure income and seven figure net worth helps a bit. However, there's 10x more men who make 100k+/yr then women who are thin, slim, and sane of mind.

This exactly

nowadays those stats are minimum even for betabuxx. Shit sucks. And men are simply told to "self improov" more and make $200K instead of $100K. As though everyone could just do that by climing the corporate pyramid scheme.

 

[THE TRUE SIGMA]

> DOES IT FOR FREE

> Money is cope I dont need it

> remain fucking poor then you brokie you dont get paid anyway keep coping

> ''Trying to use money by itself to get pussy is a worthless strategy nowadays. There is no shortage of middle age guys who can afford a sports car or whatever. No sports car for your face. You'd have to be in the top 0.00001%, and even then, you're really just betabuxxing. It's also a race to the bottom since every other guy is trying to moneymaxx.

Only options it opens up:

1. betabuxx, if you are at least normie tier 4-6/10. Betabuxx is a bad idea, you will be divorced and your life will be ruined within 10 years. Only difference, you will be MGTOW instead of incel, but back in the same boat

2. looksmax surgery (if you're willing to get cut up. Maybe something straightforward like chin implant is worth it. Anything more serious is risky and invasive)

3. SEA - not sure this even still works nowadays, it's flooded with white guys and not safe anyway. You also need to be attracted to pan face gook whores


Mostly money just gets you better copes, or you can invest it all for early retirement to leave wage cage (probably the best choice). Just buy VTSAX theory''

 

[proudweeb]

> DOES IT FOR FREE

> Money is cope I dont need it



> remain fucking poor then you brokie you dont get paid anyway keep coping

Not for adminning lol

I do thug it out at my day job tho

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

Money is just a number in the end. The bigger it is, the more at peace I feel. It's like zen shit at some point. Soothing to see big numbers and just do nothing about it except contemplate.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

If China crashes hard enough there might be a huge flood of Asians foids looking for someone from the west to carry them to safety. Although China might not let them leave that easily.

Moneymaxxing purely in order to become a betabuxxer sucks ass and lacks all dignity, sometimes it might work but you spend much of your life accruing wealth just to donate it to some used up whore who doesn't even find you attractive and who has done nothing to deserve it except for being born female.

But money also funds your copes and can allow you to buy real sex and fake affection. In addition to drugs, sex toys, games, collectables, who knows what.

On the other hand, nowadays you can find a lifetime worth of entertainment for free online. Some copes require barely any money. And most sex toys aren't any better than your hand.

It's hard to care that much when what you really want remains out of reach. Think it's much easier to build a life around a foundation of social relations, be that friends, family or a partner, instead of having to build a life on your own in the hopes of maybe attracting someone willing to use you as a human-shaped ATM as part of a passion-free marriage.

Overall, if you can, you should moneymaxx, but it's understandable why so many of us struggle to find the motivation to make something of ourselves when we're
-often emotionally scarred,
-don't fit in anywhere due to being non-NT or just due to being ugly and unsociable,
-didn't get a good start into life, instead being bullied, abused, left to deal with our misery by ourselves
-and have no social network to help us get back on our feet.

Being an incel is rarely the only problem we have, and being an incel rarely remains an isolated problem for long, as the loneliness sucks away all the optimism and investment in your own life rather quickly. Humans are not well-suited to spend all their days feeling antagonized by the society they live in while lacking any positive social experiences.

So I wouldn't be to hard on yourself if you can't get yourself to moneymaxx. You only shoulder part of the blame. The people around you, both the society as a whole and your family & friends in particular, also have to accept some of it. And in the end you can't magically turn yourself into someone you are not. Especially on your own.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

If China crashes hard enough

Hopefully not.

a huge flood of Asians foids

The disparity tho. There are less foids than men in Asia because of the retarded CCP birth policy.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

Hopefully not.

Looks more and more likely.

The disparity tho. There are less foids than men in Asia because of the retarded CCP birth policy.

Yeah, but many of those foids would much prefer a Westerner, even an ethnic one, who can get them out of China (in the event that China as a whole declines and starts resembling North Korea more than the USA or even Russia).

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

(in the event that China as a whole declines and starts resembling North Korea

You seriously this is happening ? China is so connected to the world and so powerful currently ... I mean, if such a crisis were to happen there, it would probably extend to the whole world wide economy, and then it would be mad max on a planetary level (I'm barely joking). Good luck then at finding a western prince charming JFL

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

You seriously this is happening ? China is so connected to the world and so powerful currently ... I mean, if such a crisis were to happen there, it would probably extend to the whole world wide economy, and then it would be mad max on a planetary level (I'm barely joking). Good luck then at finding a western prince charming JFL

I think that much of what you think you know about China is not based on reality but on information that was either totally or partially falsified by their ruling party. The West is already trying to find alternatives to cheap Chinese labor in e.g. India and Mexico. I doubt these countries will completely replace it, but China is struggling on all fronts, from economy to demographics, and many firms want to avoid having to deal with the CCP if they can.

I'm not a fan of the West by any means but, for now, liberal insanity is the lesser evil by a large margin when compared to the corruption regular citizen have to face over there.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

I'm not a fan of the West by any means but, for now, liberal insanity is the lesser evil by a large margin when compared to the corruption regular citizen have to face over there.

You're certainly right.

But China still seems powerful on so many aspect. Its military spending are astronomical and it's also the only country to have its own ultra modern space station. They also have this new silk road thing that seems to be working well, and many lesser partners in Africa, Eurasia or Southern America that are willing to turn their back to the West.

And they also are shifting their prodiction towards better quality standards, being leaders in electric cars, electronics, ... Not even talking about their big state owned companies that have been more popular than some the US GAFAM for years. They have been following trends and their agenda suits kinda well the international demand on a global scale.

There's certainly propaganda and fake manipulated numbers, but I somehow doubt that all nations of the world are totally honest regarding their own numebers anyway, and you can't fake success when so many actual people are falling for chinese services and products all over the world.

 

[SupremeGentleCel]

imo it's the only option worth for moneymaxxers if they're white/black and taller than 5'10 at least. There is still some countries with less passport bros (competition)

I´m white and 5´9 barefoot,
I would rather Seamaxx in the Latin american countries, than Asia.
I don´t feel attracted towards Asian foids

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

You're certainly right.

But China still seems powerful on so many aspect. Its military spending are astronomical and it's also the only country to have its own ultra modern space station. They also have this new silk road thing that seems to be working well, and many lesser partners in Africa, Eurasia or Southern America that are willing to turn their back to the West.

And they also are shifting their prodiction towards better quality standards, being leaders in electric cars, electronics, ... Not even talking about their big state owned companies that have been more popular than some the US GAFAM for years. They have been following trends and their agenda suits kinda well the international demand on a global scale.

There's certainly propaganda and fake manipulated numbers, but I somehow doubt that all nations of the world are totally honest regarding their own numebers anyway, and you can't fake success when so many actual people are falling for chinese services and products all over the world.

Pretty much all these things are not as good as you seem to think they are, at least from the info I have seen.

They might invade Taiwan soon, because 1) their age pyramid is fucked and they won't be able to muster enough manpower if they wait much longer, and 2) because it distracts the population from their own internal issues. But that won't change how fucked their economy and how plagued by corruption and ineptitude every part of their infrastructure is and has been since forever.

 

[Cryotron]

I would rather Seamaxx in the Latin american countries, than Asia.

south america is dangerous, lots of crime, gangs, drugs.

 

[prajeet88]

If China crashes hard enough there might be a huge flood of Asians foids looking for someone from the west to carry them to safety

What makes you think China will crash? The Jews have been producing headline after headline for the last 25 years predicting an imminent Chinese economic crash. I don't see it. Just look at their exploding EV market, microchip advancements, etc. From the research I've done it seems all Jew cope that China will crash. Only real threat to China is demography, but that's 20-30 years away as most Chinese aren't fat fucks who get medical problems early. China has more people with 120+IQ than the USA has people in total. Let that sink in.

 

[prajeet88]

Pretty much all these things are not as good as you seem to think they are, at least from the info I have seen.

Was answering your original post then saw this. Do NOT read Jew sources. Any media produced about China that comes from a Jewish journalist or from a Jew-owned establishment can safely be assumed to be a lie.

 

[faded]

Was answering your original post then saw this. Do NOT read Jew sources. Any media produced about China that comes from a Jewish journalist or from a Jew-owned establishment can safely be assumed to be a lie.

It’s true most Jews actually fucking hate chinks it’s just a small minority of cucked Jews who suck up to chinks and I’d like nothing more than chink and shit skin countries to collapse and their people to die

 

[bimmercel]

Concurence is high for betabuxing they are guy out there who easily outsum several times your moneymaxed income and they are even wiling to downdate much more than one of us.

 

[KeepCoping]

Moneymaxxing to me means multi millionaire status, so being able to use your time, however you like. Having a six figure job isnt going to give you total freedom, you'll have a better life but some other guy will still be the boss of you.

 

[RandomGuy]

I make money during war and fat ppl pay me.

Novo Nordisk CEO says experimental weight loss pill could become a best-in-class drug​

 

[curryboy420]

Farts

 

[proudweeb]

If China crashes hard enough there might be a huge flood of Asians foids looking for someone from the west to carry them to safety. Although China might not let them leave that easily.

Moneymaxxing purely in order to become a betabuxxer sucks ass and lacks all dignity, sometimes it might work but you spend much of your life accruing wealth just to donate it to some used up whore who doesn't even find you attractive and who has done nothing to deserve it except for being born female.

But money also funds your copes and can allow you to buy real sex and fake affection. In addition to drugs, sex toys, games, collectables, who knows what.

On the other hand, nowadays you can find a lifetime worth of entertainment for free online. Some copes require barely any money. And most sex toys aren't any better than your hand.

It's hard to care that much when what you really want remains out of reach. Think it's much easier to build a life around a foundation of social relations, be that friends, family or a partner, instead of having to build a life on your own in the hopes of maybe attracting someone willing to use you as a human-shaped ATM as part of a passion-free marriage.

Overall, if you can, you should moneymaxx, but it's understandable why so many of us struggle to find the motivation to make something of ourselves when we're
-often emotionally scarred,
-don't fit in anywhere due to being non-NT or just due to being ugly and unsociable,
-didn't get a good start into life, instead being bullied, abused, left to deal with our misery by ourselves
-and have no social network to help us get back on our feet.

Being an incel is rarely the only problem we have, and being an incel rarely remains an isolated problem for long, as the loneliness sucks away all the optimism and investment in your own life rather quickly. Humans are not well-suited to spend all their days feeling antagonized by the society they live in while lacking any positive social experiences.

So I wouldn't be to hard on yourself if you can't get yourself to moneymaxx. You only shoulder part of the blame. The people around you, both the society as a whole and your family & friends in particular, also have to accept some of it. And in the end you can't magically turn yourself into someone you are not. Especially on your own.

Very hi iq post, sums it up nicely, in particular the 2nd paragraph

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

What makes you think China will crash? The Jews have been producing headline after headline for the last 25 years predicting an imminent Chinese economic crash. I don't see it. Just look at their exploding EV market, microchip advancements, etc. From the research I've done it seems all Jew cope that China will crash. Only real threat to China is demography, but that's 20-30 years away as most Chinese aren't fat fucks who get medical problems early. China has more people with 120+IQ than the USA has people in total. Let that sink in.

To be open and honest, after you unironically say "the jews" I already am no longer paying any attention. I'm fairly open to the possibility of Jewish influence being a substantial part of why modernity looks the way it looks, from the OG communists to modern mass-media, but the way most people on here talk about these things reminds me much more of my 85 IQ conspiracy theorist father than anything else.

On the original topic, building and sustaining a functioning society is much harder than people seem to think, and outside of the West most countries wouldn't really achieve a passing grade for their performance. China is mostly faking their achievements, IQ is not the only quality you need for people to cooperate at scale and the Chinese are not slightly smarter Whites, their genetic predispositions and character-trait-distribution are too different.

There is a certain irony in distrusting "the jews" but accepting CCP propaganda at face value.

 

[prajeet88]

China is mostly faking their achievements

Like what? Their EV market? Their dominance in chip technology (second only to Taiwan, who are also ethnic chinks)? Their smartphones which are excellent value for money? Their impressive infrastructure? While the US is importing 30 million illegal immigrants in 3 years and the west has countries like France where living standards and dropping and dropping:

I dislike many aspects of Chink culture, especially their attitude towards work. But their economy looks much healthier than the collapsing west. USA is finished if petrodollar falls.

 

[prajeet88]

To be open and honest, after you unironically say "the jews" I already am no longer paying any attention.

I was like this 5-10 years ago. There's nothing to say here, perhaps like me you will change your mind on the Jews eventually. But that epiphany has to come from within.

 

[scihub]

There's certainly propaganda and fake manipulated numbers, but I somehow doubt that all nations of the world are totally honest regarding their own numebers anyway, and you can't fake success when so many actual people are falling for chinese services and products all over the world.

This is why the rise of china is so wild to me. Every person that tells me china isn't in the running for "top country in the world" always comes back to this notion that "they're just lying and fudging the numbers".
And i'm like... do you think the United States isn't doing the same thing? Weren't you the one that told me the inflation numbers are BS 10 minutes ago?

For me, I see the main issues with China being that they are fundamentally a copycat economy; their unique strength is being able to systematize and execute better than anyone else. BUT, their governmental policies do NOT allow any kind of significant innovation.
They just steal from other countries, and do it faster and better. But they essentially invent and progress NOTHING on the global scale.

 

[ItsovERfucks]

I don't wanna do any of that shit I give up.

 

[proudweeb]

I don't wanna do any of that shit I give up.

Same here

I'm burned out af and just want to quit my job

Need to recover

 

[Gendocel]

going to whores >>> betabuxxing

not often though or else it becomes cucked. once a month is good I think to get your mind off pussy for a while again

 

[Mango]

Cars do not attract women in 2024, most women don't even know the difference between a honda and a bmw

@Mango thoughts

Except for jeep wranglers and base model c300s and 330is

 

[Restart80]

Trying to use money by itself to get pussy is a worthless strategy nowadays. There is no shortage of middle age guys who can afford a sports car or whatever. No sports car for your face. You'd have to be in the top 0.00001%, and even then, you're really just betabuxxing. It's also a race to the bottom since every other guy is trying to moneymaxx.

Only options it opens up:

1. betabuxx, if you are at least normie tier 4-6/10. Betabuxx is a bad idea, you will be divorced and your life will be ruined within 10 years. Only difference, you will be MGTOW instead of incel, but back in the same boat

2. looksmax surgery (if you're willing to get cut up. Maybe something straightforward like chin implant is worth it. Anything more serious is risky and invasive)

3. SEA - not sure this even still works nowadays, it's flooded with white guys and not safe anyway. You also need to be attracted to pan face gook whores


Mostly money just gets you better copes, or you can invest it all for early retirement to leave wage cage (probably the best choice). Just buy VTSAX theory

You don't need a lot of money for SEA, which is the best option of the three anyway.

It does still work I'm sure. Most of the White guys there are old Boomers.

 

[Jake Roberts]

Trying to use money by itself to get pussy is a worthless strategy nowadays. There is no shortage of middle age guys who can afford a sports car or whatever. No sports car for your face. You'd have to be in the top 0.00001%, and even then, you're really just betabuxxing. It's also a race to the bottom since every other guy is trying to moneymaxx.

Only options it opens up:

1. betabuxx, if you are at least normie tier 4-6/10. Betabuxx is a bad idea, you will be divorced and your life will be ruined within 10 years. Only difference, you will be MGTOW instead of incel, but back in the same boat

2. looksmax surgery (if you're willing to get cut up. Maybe something straightforward like chin implant is worth it. Anything more serious is risky and invasive)

3. SEA - not sure this even still works nowadays, it's flooded with white guys and not safe anyway. You also need to be attracted to pan face gook whores


Mostly money just gets you better copes, or you can invest it all for early retirement to leave wage cage (probably the best choice). Just buy VTSAX theory

Agreed. Moneymaxxing should be done to get better copes. Using it on foids is pointless.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

Pretty much all these things are not as good as you seem to think they are, at least from the info I have seen.

They might invade Taiwan soon, because 1) their age pyramid is fucked and they won't be able to muster enough manpower if they wait much longer, and 2) because it distracts the population from their own internal issues. But that won't change how fucked their economy and how plagued by corruption and ineptitude every part of their infrastructure is and has been since forever.

I don't know if China is really willing to risk an open proxy war against the US just to keep its population under controle, using a loosy "historical" casus belli to claim a useless piece of land, killing its most precious asset in the process which is its population ( like Russia did). It is the worst thing to do if you're really worried about the long term survival of you nation.

Also, the modern technological wars don't necessarily require manpower en masse to win like it used to be centuries ago. Now a single drone can kill hundreds of soldiers, while the tactical missiles, including nuclear, is game changer.

But yeah, their economy isn't doing as great as it used to be, and the popultation could be rightfully unsatisfied. Leniency and internal reformation would be for the better and a sign of wisdom, but I'm afraid the current chinese administration is too disconnected from the reality the people is facing. All the big projects are all over the news, but nobody cares about the average quality of life here.

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

This is why the rise of china is so wild to me. Every person that tells me china isn't in the running for "top country in the world" always comes back to this notion that "they're just lying and fudging the numbers".
And i'm like... do you think the United States isn't doing the same thing? Weren't you the one that told me the inflation numbers are BS 10 minutes ago?

For me, I see the main issues with China being that they are fundamentally a copycat economy; their unique strength is being able to systematize and execute better than anyone else. BUT, their governmental policies do NOT allow any kind of significant innovation.
They just steal from other countries, and do it faster and better. But they essentially invent and progress NOTHING on the global scale.

They're at the top considering the big numbers, but nobody really envies the average chinese lifestyle. Nor the American one, despite all the propaganda, Hollywood and soft power bs they come up with to make us believe everyone has the lifestyle of a millionnaire in the US. The best places to live in today are secondary powers who don't give a shit about the rat races, and don't pressurize their population to inflate economical statistics.

I don't really buy the "copycat" argument. All now developed nations at some point copied others, and at another point were on the cutting edge. Yes China is known today as the kingdom of cheap knock of, but so was Japan at some point, and the US, and Germany ... The thing is China is now leader in some strategic industries and can develop its own techs. Its people does it all, regardless of politics.

 

[CRYSTAL METH]

Moneymaxx for yourself and yourself only dude. Still, getting a surgery is based.