It’s interesting since I’m not religious anymore and now think I was basically lied to growing up. But despite that I also believe religion can make people happier and help produce a higher trust society with shared values. Also helps people cope with the fear of death and all. I was definitely happier when I believed in my religion. It was a beautiful comforting lie in a way.
It’s crazy to me how so many people feel terrible and are miserable now and they all get out on depression and anxiety meds from their doctors and therapists. Instead of acknowledging that there’s something that’s fucking deeply wrong with modern society they just try to turn people into robots to get them to keep being cogs in this soulless machine that only rewards a small few people now. I actually don’t think comparisons to dystopian novels like 1984 or Brave New World are that far fetched since we’ve already seen propaganda and censorship go crazy and people all around us are on mind altering drugs (that they pay through the nose for all the rest of their lives I might add).
Mental health practitioners will never acknowledge culture, religion, or environment as any significant thing because their whole practice revolves around pretending everything is some unique individual (and neurological) case. Mood disorders as just a neurological condition is nearly total hogwash.
You should read The Underground Man, by Fyodor Dostoevsky. Have you read?
It is not necessarily a lie, if you interpret it correctly. Christianity kept most of its promises in the course of its 2000 years of existence.
I have read the first chapter of the novel. Judging by the tone of the novel, it does seem like it appeals broadly to the social outcasts. Do you know, that novel is apparently a response, sort of a mockery, to another novel about a strong and independent whore.
His novel goes a lot deeper than that. It's not just a response to that whore and her baggage. A an earnest description of what might be happening in every household in a post-religious society. It's both confession about the self and admonishment of others, critique of the Self and Others.
For sure, more like a criticism of a man's idea of a utopia. I just said it for the lulzzz. I'll be sure to finish it when I'll get some free time with a relaxed mind.
Nice post.
I agree. People lived shitty ass lives in the past. Imagine no pain meds, no dental care or even healthcare? And information is the most valuable thing about the modern day. Things are just more lonely now but the blackpill shows that even if it wasn’t as lonely, we’d just be surrounded by idiots and fake people.
Well, it's most a critque of Man's idea of being a God himself.
Modern society doesn't necessarily need to be compared to hunters and gatherers. Most from the last two generations want the life boomers led which wasn't plagued with interconnected and always monitoring networking devices. Back when almost all the individuals had a shot at a good life.
Read it years ago and it depressed me lol. Has been many years though. Great book. I agree completely about what you said for mental health practitioners. In real life anytime you bring this stuff up the response you always get is: “DID YOU GO TO COLLEGE TO STUDY MEDICINE!?” Etc etc
That’s something they never taught us
how very based
Well said.
Perhaps, but I'm sure boomers had plenty to complain about in their heyday. Not to mention that the grass always looks greener on the other side. Besides, I wonder how many moderns would really be willing to trade in the internet, mobile phones, and Netflix etc. if push were to ever come to shove. Not that it ever will.
what a retard
Perhaps, but there are most probably statistics which prove they were much happier. Also, we saw during lockdown how normies were losing their minds as well as lives despite being connected with everyone via internet.
And which peak years of men is he talking about? Betabuxxing years? It doesn't fucking work unless you're like a fucking millionaire. Even then you have to ready to be divorce-graped. These fucking retarded normies just mislead and gaslight the younger and more impressionable viewers of videos like this. It's like they have thrown out any kind of moralistic grounds for argument against foids
Of course. But the main problem you have is your lack of historical literacy. If you had more, the past would seem a much more familiar place. And you would understand that, at times, people were indeed feeling better on average than they do now because their culture was more consistent and stable than ours.
There are many ways to have a spiritual discipline about that. All religions offer a solution in that department. Some are better than others but all work better than the perennial insatisfaction we feel today.
Of course there is hope. You just don't understand enough to see it.
a girl hot in her twenties most of the time is gonna be hot in her late 30s and 40s
You can find about it on the wikipedia page of The Underground Man.That’s something they never taught us
Because that's what is natural for us humans. Playing is a way for young mammals to bond with each other and have good social cooperation in future. If you had friends as a toddler you will almost never be diagnosed with autism.
I dunno. Some quick searching yielded
fair point
Like I've said before, I have my doubts regarding the veracity of many historical sources. In this case in particular, the common man was illiterate for large swaths of history. No diaries of their highs and lows remain for they were never writ. Those would've likely been the ideal sources. Not that we'd be able to distinguish autobiography from fiction with absolute certainty. And I get history ain't no exact science, but when enough uncertainty piles up it becomes statistically useless.
I was under the impression that you considered technological progress a good thing. That religion enabling technological progress was one of its strengths. Yet ain't technological progress the poster child of our endless striving for a better life?
You make it sound like there not being hope was never an option. Is it a priori truly so clear that mankind ain't doomed regardless?
This is the jewest stupidest filthiest lie i ever heard. Basically physically coward capitalists bragging about low homicide rates while ignoring rampant suicide rates plus depression. Just like passive/indirect violence was not violence
Don't Be atheist degenerate
Men HAVE tried to see it from women’s perspective. Why do you think men gave women all of these privileges VS the old ways of doing things (voting, working, abortion, allowing pseudo polygamy). Most men have been very very patient and understanding of women’s desires. Too patient and understanding.
Thanks fren I hear you
modern life is basically serfdom for most men
You can’t feign genuine belief. I used to believe in my religion hardcore. Went to religious schools even. I prayed to god every day near constantly tbh. I just don’t think it’s true anymore. I was happier when I did but it’s not a light switch you can turn on and off. You have to actually believe that it’s real to buy into it.
So that is your excuse? Sources are unreliable? Sour grapes!
We know a lot about the past. Don't kid yourself.
Yes. The interesting thing is that most technological progress in the past was done by people who did not particularly desired it. There is a big difference between craving progress and actually achieving it.
The Christian Religion enables people to actually perform technological progress precisely because they did not crave it. Technological progress during the industrial revolution, for example, occurred as a by-product of people worshiping something else (God). People who worship progress are actually bad at it. For example, The Soviet Union did not produce any major innovation. Everything they made was more or less a copy of what Western Europe and the US were doing.
There is absolutely no reason to assume that humanity is any more doomed than at any point in its past history. This impression you have is an artefact of your own personal frustration.
Yes. Examples: Euclid, from The Elements fame, arguably the most influential mathematician of all time, likely never even existed. For a more recent example, take the Holocaust. In addition to being mathematically impossible, the only supposedly extant gas chamber is a post-war "reconstruction". And those two are only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the Holocaust.
Then, pray tell, how the Egyptians as we think we know them could've ever constructed those gargantuan pyramids with the remarkable accuracy they exhibit?
Even if they didn't want the technology per se, the fact they wanted to push frontiers means they were striving for something. Even if their goal was expanding the breadth of our collective knowledge, I'm sure they saw that as a (net) positive -- i.e., as a betterment.
This sounds cute in theory, but I don't buy it in practice. You really think the common man was devout enough to relinquish all worldly desires?
You sure (((they))) weren't worshipping cash? If factories were truly built in the name of God, then why were workers' conditions so abysmal?
Is that why the Soviets beat the Americans to every conceivable milestone in the space race? Again, your take seems too unnuanced to me.
Humanity is as doomed now as it ever was. That's probably why prophecies of our demise have been around since time immemorial.
Shut the fuck up faggot entirety of the bourgeoisie parliamentary system works in your favour.
Still a better existence, than the 99999999.99999% of humanity has ever lived.
Nope. Certainly not, idiot curry. Look at what India was under an anti-capitalist regime in the 1950s to 80s. And look at what it is now after 30+ years of capitalist friendly governments.
Shut the fuck up faggot you aren't a Indian you have no right to speak about this country fuck off chink.
its the natural outcome of the free market
