Blackpill Modern Masculinity Combines The Worst Of The Past And Present Eras

[BlkPillPres]

PAST ERA

When I look at past masculinity, things that are conventionally masculine in culture, are usually self detrimental

Think of all the classical representations of "masculine acts"

Drinking alcohol and being able to handle strong concentrations as bragging rights (not good for your health in the long run)

Smoking cigarettes are seen as a sign of masculinity,you should be able to "handle" how uncomfortable it is, you shouldn't cough, you should be used to the smoke (not good for your health in the long run)

Strenuous physical labor should be something you are capable of and used to (not good for your health in the long run)

You must be willing to sacrifice your well being and/or life for the safety of women and children [especially women] while expecting nothing in return (not good for your health in the long run)

You must be willing to engage in physical altercations with other men to prove your combat capabilities, especially in defense of the "honor" of "your woman" (not good for your health in the long run)

Etc, etc, etc

The positives of that way back era though is that feminism wasn't relevant, women had roles and restrictions, fast forward to today, and we still have the vestigial remains of this construct of masculinity with none of the positives

PRESENT ERA

When I look at modern masculinity, things that are conventionally masculine in culture have to do with men being submissive in their roles to women, or taking on aspects of things that are conventionally feminine

Accepting female promiscuity and multiple pre-marital sex partners as a norm (emasculating)

Having women hold positions of power above a man (emasculating)

Society trying to sell men the idea of "open relationships" (emasculating)

Men beautifying themselves like bitches competing for "looks points" trying to 1up each other like women typically do (looksmaxxing - emasculating)

Rise of stay at home dads with bread winner moms (emasculating)

Etc, etc, etc

Today as men we live in an era, where the standard of masculinity is structured around the WORST OF THE PAST and the WORST OF THE PRESENT.

Were expected to participate in all the acts that depreciate our health, lower our lifespan, and put us at risk of being physically disabled or killed, while at the same time asked to accept everly increasing submissive and emasculating roles and acts in society as a norm

Modern masculinity is a sham, which reminds me of another thread I made before:

"Man Up" Is A Sleight Of Hand Because Masculinity Itself Has Been Feminized | Incels.is - Involuntary Celibate

This is why I could never feel shame by being told to "man up" or when I hear the cliche phrase "a real man does X", its because masculinity is no longer about what's masculine, its about what appeals to women. Masculinity in modern times is nothing but "pseudo-masculinity" masquerading as the...

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[Romello Gaghan 2]

What would be your ideal model for healthy, proper masculinity?

 

[BlkPillPres]

What would be your ideal model for healthy, proper masculinity?

I for one don't take part in any drug use, because I am very paranoid and I don't like the idea of a substance that dulls my senses and makes me more vulnerable, I don't "let my guard down" around people, but I would never ban these subtances, by ideal would be to stop treating these substances and ones ability to tolerate the damage it does to your body, as a "masculine feat", while women are busy eating healthy and staying in shape men today are pumping our bodies full of poisons and roiding up to reach peak physical strength which can't even be sustained naturally in short term or long term

Men should not be willing to help women at all unless they accept their position as the submissive, protection is the role of a dominant, not a submissive, women want a dominant slave, its a contradiction, this is why they are never satisified with the men they have and always cheat, because they don't even know what they want, and men today as a collective, let women decide what they want, men should be deciding, because what women want is for men to tell them what they should have, modern feminism has ruined that dynamic, and therefore ruined the stability of heterosexual relationships

We also need to stop with this "looksmaxxing" BS, I'm not saying men shouldn't trying to "look good", but men are seriously taking this shit to feminine levels, deeply cosmetic, men knowing which colour clothing "brings out their eyes" and what hair style pairs well with what look, etc is feminine as fuck, men should not be focusing on such trivial shallow and pointless things, were becoming like women, which makes our criticism of them ever more ironic. At the current rate things are going, the next generation of men will begin trying to normalize men wearing makeup, then we'll be lying just as much as them.

 

[virgin4life]

Very good summary. Well done...

 

[GetFucked]

while women are busy eating healthy and staying in shape men today are pumping our bodies full of poison

Women are fatter than men by a large margin. Their average weight is 160 lbs. They're just not held to any standard.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Women are fatter than men by a large margin.

Yes and women's bodies inherently store more fat and burn fat at a slower weight, so that isn't surprising, but for the most part (well among whites), women are dieting and staying relatively fit, and eating healthy, whilst mean smoke, drink, overexert themselves physically, etc to meet the "masculine standard"

 

[GetFucked]

Yes and women's bodies inherently store more fat and burn fat at a slower weight, so that isn't surprising, but for the most part (well among whites), women are dieting and staying relatively fit, and eating healthy, whilst mean smoke, drink, overexert themselves physically, etc to meet the "masculine standard"

It may be just because I'm surrounded by degenerates, but in my area women drink, smoke weed, and take mdma in copious amounts. When they do go to the gym they just squat next to chads. Really tho I do think you're on point with your thread.

 

[DaveBuster]

Women are fatter than men by a large margin. Their average weight is 160 lbs. They're just not held to any standard.

And yet you still hear them whine about our "weight-obsessed society". Where is this weight obsessed society? Why am I seeing more landwhales in a day than I saw in a year as a kid (when America was still disgustingly fat) given how weight-obsessed society apparently is and there's all this pressure on foids to maintain a healthy weight?

 

[GetFucked]

And yet you still hear them whine about our "weight-obsessed society". Where is this weight obsessed society? Why am I seeing more landwhales in a day than I saw in a year as a kid (when America was still disgustingly fat) given how weight-obsessed society apparently is and there's all this pressure on foids to maintain a healthy weight?

Yeah I know its america and were known for our supply of fat fuckers, but 160 lbs as the average goes beyond just females having more fat. That's obesity and is not normal. There's no pressure to maintain a normal body fat percentage, in fact you're pressured to not comment on peoples weight. Our healthcare system is going to make a shitload of money in the next decade.

 

[BlkPillPres]

It may be just because I'm surrounded by degenerates, but in my area women drink, smoke weed, and take mdma in copious amounts. When they do go to the gym they just squat next to chads. Really tho I do think you're on point with your thread.

Could also be because those women are young, women really get into the health craze in their 30's or when they have children and have to lose "baby weight". At that point men are still doing the same shit we were doing in our 20's, ironically more so than ever because of the added stress and reduced freedom, even more drinking of even stronger forms of alcohol, even more smoking to cope, etc. Its sad that drugging to cope with a shitty life is a norm for men, men aren't thought to rationalize their problems anymore, its always just - "drink and smoke your troubles away like a maaaaaauuuuun!"

Maybe if those men spent more time thinking about what choices were making their life intolerable, they'd put effort towards undoing or avoiding said choices, and then they'd no longer have to cope

 

[LastGerman]

Life as a man has become insignificant.

 

[GetFucked]

Could also be because those women are young, women really get into the health craze in their 30's or when they have children and have to lose "baby weight". At that point men are still doing the same shit we were doing in our 20's, ironically more so than ever because of the added stress and reduced freedom, even more drinking of even stronger forms of alcohol, even more smoking to cope, etc. Its sad that drugging to cope with a shitty life is a norm for men, men aren't thought to rationalize their problems anymore, its always just - "drink and smoke your troubles away like a maaaaaauuuuun!"

Maybe if those men spent more time thinking about what choices were making their life intolerable, they'd put effort towards undoing or avoiding said choices, and then they'd no longer have to cope

Not gonna lie, I smoke weed occassionally and its not the best cope because it makes you lazy as fuck. Alcohol has almost no benefits, its pretty much poison. Productive copes are hard to stick to and life sucks ass for most of us so I don't judge.

 

[StaroRavager]

Strenuous physical labor should be something you are capable of and used to (not good for your health in the long run)

You must be willing to engage in physical altercations with other men to prove your combat capabilities, especially in defense of the "honor" of "your woman" (not good for your health in the long run)

To be fair these things needed to be done in the past to some extent

 

[BlkPillPres]

To be fair these things needed to be done in the past to some extent

Yeah to an extent, but taking pride in it, and making it something that men overexert themselves in, was not needed, unless a society wanted said men to function as an expendable resource (which it did).

Also despite how harsh it was, there was a trade off, men got something in return for that sacrifice, today you get nothing, but you have the same expectations.

 

[Vigil]

PAST ERA

When I look at past masculinity, things that are conventionally masculine in culture, are usually self detrimental

Think of all the classical representations of "masculine acts"

Drinking alcohol and being able to handle strong concentrations as bragging rights (not good for your health in the long run)

Smoking cigarettes are seen as a sign of masculinity,you should be able to "handle" how uncomfortable it is, you shouldn't cough, you should be used to the smoke (not good for your health in the long run)

Strenuous physical labor should be something you are capable of and used to (not good for your health in the long run)

You must be willing to sacrifice your well being and/or life for the safety of women and children [especially women] while expecting nothing in return (not good for your health in the long run)

You must be willing to engage in physical altercations with other men to prove your combat capabilities, especially in defense of the "honor" of "your woman" (not good for your health in the long run)

Etc, etc, etc

The positives of that way back era though is that feminism wasn't relevant, women had roles and restrictions, fast forward to today, and we still have the vestigial remains of this construct of masculinity with none of the positives

PRESENT ERA

When I look at modern masculinity, things that are conventionally masculine in culture have to do with men being submissive in their roles to women, or taking on aspects of things that are conventionally feminine

Accepting female promiscuity and multiple pre-marital sex partners as a norm (emasculating)

Having women hold positions of power above a man (emasculating)

Society trying to sell men the idea of "open relationships" (emasculating)

Men beautifying themselves like bitches competing for "looks points" trying to 1up each other like women typically do (looksmaxxing - emasculating)

Rise of stay at home dads with bread winner moms (emasculating)

Etc, etc, etc

Today as men we live in an era, where the standard of masculinity is structured around the WORST OF THE PAST and the WORST OF THE PRESENT.

Were expected to participate in all the acts that depreciate our health, lower our lifespan, and put us at risk of being physically disabled or killed, while at the same time asked to accept everly increasing submissive and emasculating roles and acts in society as a norm

Modern masculinity is a sham, which reminds me of another thread I made before:

"Man Up" Is A Sleight Of Hand Because Masculinity Itself Has Been Feminized | Incels.is - Involuntary Celibate

This is why I could never feel shame by being told to "man up" or when I hear the cliche phrase "a real man does X", its because masculinity is no longer about what's masculine, its about what appeals to women. Masculinity in modern times is nothing but "pseudo-masculinity" masquerading as the...

incels.is

except you aren't actually allowed to physically confront people you just have to out mog them which is fucking retarded and takes a combination of making the correct social backstabs and moves.

 

[BlkPillPres]

except you aren't actually allowed to physically confront people you just have to out mog them which is fucking retarded and takes a combination of making the correct social backstabs and moves.

Being a man has become even more annoying and convoluted in this modern era, I pretty much don't even want to take part, which is why I don't really feel like I'm "losing out" by not being able to date and live a normie life, I'm losing out on sex of course, but that's the only thing I'm losing out on, and that's just for now, there's always escortcelling and wealthmaxxing, then I don't think I'd be losing out on anything, we'd be living significantly less stressful lives

For me I'll know I've reached the peak of my existence, when I wake up one day for the first time in my life, sexually satisfied, not worried about a bill that needs to be paid, or a task that needs to be completed, I look at the time and decide - "one more hour of sleep, then I'll go watch a show or something and eat"

 

[StaroRavager]

Yeah to an extent, but taking pride in it, and making it something that men overexert themselves in, was not needed, unless a society wanted said men to function as an expendable resource (which it did).

Also despite how harsh it was, there was a trade off, men got something in return for that sacrifice, today you get nothing, but you have the same expectations.

I was referring to prehistoric times in my post. During those times toil and violence were the only way to insure survival and fulfillment of biological imperatives. Today of course looking for trouble or putting unnecessary effort into life is to one’s own detriment

 

[angrycurrycel]

Life as a man has become insignificant.

men are so disposable. Makes me sad.

 

[acnescarcel]

I for one don't take part in any drug use, because I am very paranoid and I don't like the idea of a substance that dulls my senses and makes me more vulnerable, I don't "let my guard down" around people, but I would never ban these subtances, by ideal would be to stop treating these substances and ones ability to tolerate the damage it does to your body, as a "masculine feat", while women are busy eating healthy and staying in shape men today are pumping our bodies full of poisons and roiding up to reach peak physical strength which can't even be sustained naturally in short term or long term

Men should not be willing to help women at all unless they accept their position as the submissive, protection is the role of a dominant, not a submissive, women want a dominant slave, its a contradiction, this is why they are never satisified with the men they have and always cheat, because they don't even know what they want, and men today as a collective, let women decide what they want, men should be deciding, because what women want is for men to tell them what they should have, modern feminism has ruined that dynamic, and therefore ruined the stability of heterosexual relationships

We also need to stop with this "looksmaxxing" BS, I'm not saying men shouldn't trying to "look good", but men are seriously taking this shit to feminine levels, deeply cosmetic, men knowing which colour clothing "brings out their eyes" and what hair style pairs well with what look, etc is feminine as fuck, men should not be focusing on such trivial shallow and pointless things, were becoming like women, which makes our criticism of them ever more ironic. At the current rate things are going, the next generation of men will begin trying to normalize men wearing makeup, then we'll be lying just as much as them.

lol at saying women are eating healthy and staying in shape. id say like 80% of fatasses are women.

 

[Romello Gaghan 2]

I for one don't take part in any drug use, because I am very paranoid and I don't like the idea of a substance that dulls my senses and makes me more vulnerable, I don't "let my guard down" around people, but I would never ban these subtances, by ideal would be to stop treating these substances and ones ability to tolerate the damage it does to your body, as a "masculine feat", while women are busy eating healthy and staying in shape men today are pumping our bodies full of poisons and roiding up to reach peak physical strength which can't even be sustained naturally in short term or long term

Men should not be willing to help women at all unless they accept their position as the submissive, protection is the role of a dominant, not a submissive, women want a dominant slave, its a contradiction, this is why they are never satisified with the men they have and always cheat, because they don't even know what they want, and men today as a collective, let women decide what they want, men should be deciding, because what women want is for men to tell them what they should have, modern feminism has ruined that dynamic, and therefore ruined the stability of heterosexual relationships

We also need to stop with this "looksmaxxing" BS, I'm not saying men shouldn't trying to "look good", but men are seriously taking this shit to feminine levels, deeply cosmetic, men knowing which colour clothing "brings out their eyes" and what hair style pairs well with what look, etc is feminine as fuck, men should not be focusing on such trivial shallow and pointless things, were becoming like women, which makes our criticism of them ever more ironic. At the current rate things are going, the next generation of men will begin trying to normalize men wearing makeup, then we'll be lying just as much as them.

So basically you advocate the "old system" minus the physically unhealthy aspect of it & the sticking your neck out too far part too. Interesting.
& I agree with you a lot about this looksmaxxing business, though I recognize that it won't stop unless this unchecked plague of hypergamy we face does too.

 

[DaveBuster]

lol at saying women are eating healthy and staying in shape

 

[BlkPillPres]

lol at saying women are eating healthy and staying in shape. id say like 80% of fatasses are women.

Depends on age group and race, relative to their male counterparts they are, women start to get into the health craze around their 30s, and its mostly women of the lighter races, especially white women. Its younger women and mostly women of the darker races that tend to be lard asses, and black men treating being fat like its sexy just adds to that factor amongst blacks.